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Netflix Available For Android

Soulskill posted more than 3 years ago | from the branching-out dept.

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supersloshy writes "Netflix has just announced the release of a Netflix Android application for streaming movies to Android-powered mobile devices. As streaming movies requires certain features and specifications, only a select number of devices are supported for now."

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Supported devices (2, Informative)

x*yy*x (2058140) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122126)

So out of hundreds of Android devices it runs on five, while Netflix runs on all iPhones and iPads. And who still says Android isn't fragmented?

Re:Supported devices (4, Informative)

LordStormes (1749242) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122140)

Re:Supported devices (-1, Troll)

x*yy*x (2058140) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122166)

First off, back up your device. This could brick your device.

Nice. Is Joe Sixpack supposed to do that? I'm not even sure if I want to.

Re:Supported devices (3, Insightful)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122206)

It will not brick it. Joe Sixpack will ignore it if it is not out of the box supported. Joe has learned helplessness, he is not interested in learning. Look around you are on Slashdot, not Joe_6pack.com.

Re:Supported devices (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36122232)

I so need to find a use for Joe_6pack.com now....

Re:Supported devices (1)

kwenf (1531623) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122244)

No, Joe Sixpack should ask netflix why it limits an app that perfectly runs on all android devices to the select few thus making Joe Sixpack blame everything on fragmentation.

Re:Supported devices (1, Flamebait)

idontgno (624372) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122290)

The only way Joe Sixpack would even recognize the word "fragmentation" is his stint in the National Guard, where he learned that you wanna throw the grenade really, really hard, or you'd be picking fragmentation out of your butt.

So the phrase "platform fragmentation" is a fine piece of marketing disinformation, even if it has no factual basis. "Your shiny fruit-themed entertainment electronics friend will never explode in your pocket, unlike that evil man-killing robot bomb maker."

Re:Supported devices (1, Informative)

iluvcapra (782887) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122398)

Joe Sixpack has probably never heard the terms "Osborne Effect" or "aircraft failure to maintain lateral clearance with terrain," but he still knows better than to buy Gamestation5 when Gamestation6 has been announced, and that a plane hitting a tree is bad.

The problem is people don't know what Android is, or what makes it different from iOS or Blackberry, aside from the fact that "having Android" doesn't seem to guarantee any particular functionality aside from the barest and most simple things, and that having an iPhone guarantees a lot more things will "just work." Hardware can vary but past a certain point it ceases to be a "platform."

Netflix can't get their client to work acceptably on slower hardware, so they aren't selling an Android app, they're selling a Droid/Nexus/etc. app.

Re:Supported devices (1)

dleemaas (2035220) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122642)

One problem though; it's not just because of slower hardware. There's no Motorola Atrix on that list, and being the owner of one, I'm really wondering why.

Re:Supported devices (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36122786)

Joe knows that having a Mac product makes you gay - or at least iGay - while Android is some geeky, but at least hetrosexual choice.

Re:Supported devices (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36123186)

Sounds to me like Joe knows you're a stupid fuck for saying that. You think Mac is a company, right?

Re:Supported devices (1)

jcdick1 (254644) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122322)

It would seem that officially, only Qualcomm devices support the DRM scheme they aren't actually using, since other devices have been modified to work.

Re:Supported devices (1)

mlts (1038732) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122366)

It is pretty hard to brick an Android phone. Plus, if Joe Sixpack has his device rooted, he has already jumped through a lot of hoops already, even if it is a "one click root".

The ironic thing is that Android is easier to back up once rooted than before. Rooted, I have nandroid (complete copy of the ROM), and Titanium Backup (complete copy of all apps backed up, and stored encrypted on Dropbox.) Without root, there isn't any real way to back Android up.

To boot, editing build.prop isn't my idea of a good time, but a lot of people do this for other reasons.

Re:Supported devices (0)

CharlyFoxtrot (1607527) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122538)

... and accept that you're running it on an untested combination of software and hardware with no guarantee as to performance and no support.

Re:Supported devices (3, Insightful)

oakgrove (845019) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122760)

... and accept that you're running it on an untested combination of software and hardware

So, every application on every platform is tested on every combination of hardware that is available for that platform? Thought not. And that hasn't been a problem. Until the trolls dreamed it up as a way to attack Android.

with no guarantee as to performance

It runs flawlessly on my OG Droid which is by far the slowest and most memory poor of any remotely modern Android phone with enough market share to matter.

and no support.

Support? For a streaming video player? Troll on, brother!

Re:Supported devices (0)

RobDude (1123541) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122892)

Rooting the phone (often) voids the warranty.

Even if you accept that rooting is unlikely to cause damage, it prevents you from recouping your losses from other types of damage as well. If you, like most cell phone users, purchased your phone in conjunction with a two year contract from $CELL_COMPANY then rooting is a risk.

You also, effectively, forfeit any customer support you would have received.
'Okay sure, type in *228'
"Hang on, my leet custom ROM is different, so I'm going to type in %228"
'Umm, I'm sorry sir, we don't support leet custom ROM'.

I'm not against rooting phones. But it's more than just a mild annoyance.

Re:Supported devices (3, Insightful)

oakgrove (845019) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122998)

Rooting the phone (often) voids the warranty.

Interesting. I have (had) a T-Mobile G1. The first thing I did was root the thing by downgrading the firmware, rooting, upgrading the firmware and the recovery partition and kept it up with the latest Cyanogenmod until the day it went kaput. I happened to be traveling in Pittsburgh when it happened. Went to the kiosk in the mall told them my phone broke, they switched it out for a new one. Lather, rinse, repeat on the Cyanogenmod.

I currently have a Droid from Verizon. It was rooted before I left the parking lot at the Best Buy where I bought it. Again, put Cyanogenmod on it. I had it for a while, then the screen stopped working when I would slide the keyboard out. Took it back to Verizon as is and guess what? Walked out with another one.

And if that isn't good enough for you, anybody clued in enough to root their phone is capable of flashing it back to factory.

You also, effectively, forfeit any customer support you would have received. 'Okay sure, type in *228' "Hang on, my leet custom ROM is different, so I'm going to type in %228" 'Umm, I'm sorry sir, we don't support leet custom ROM'.

Pure strawman troll bs.

Re:Supported devices (1)

LeeMeador (924391) | more than 3 years ago | (#36123206)

Seems to me you "forfeit customer support" whenever you buy anything more complex than a carton of milk. Oh, there are exceptions but I think I could defend the general case.

Re:Supported devices (0)

CharlyFoxtrot (1607527) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122952)

So, every application on every platform is tested on every combination of hardware that is available for that platform? Thought not. And that hasn't been a problem. Until the trolls dreamed it up as a way to attack Android.

No not every application on every platform is tested with all hardware, that's how we got "system requirements" list and the paragon of application stability that is Windows (!) People keep comparing iOS vs Android with Mac vs Windows, as if going down the Windows path is a good thing. That's why it is used to critique Android.

It runs flawlessly on my OG Droid which is by far the slowest and most memory poor of any remotely modern Android phone with enough market share to matter.

So this one works for you, what if it had been a game or something more demanding ? That's the general point.

Support? For a streaming video player? Troll on, brother!

Again, I was making a general point. So you don't need support for this app, next time it'll maybe be a paid app and you'll be risking your money without a guarantee of support.

Re:Supported devices (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122192)

So stop being a weenie and edit build.prop.

Re:Supported devices (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36122210)

How many iPhone models are there? Hmm, about the same number iWhatever vs Android something total then eh?

(just stirring the pot) :-)

Re:Supported devices (1)

drb226 (1938360) | more than 3 years ago | (#36123364)

I was thinking the same. "I want an iSomething with Netflix" vs "I want an AndroidSomething with Netflix". How many choices does each question offer?

Re:Supported devices (1, Insightful)

redemtionboy (890616) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122218)

Fragmentation is a small price to pay for having the option of more than one non-customizable hardware release a year.

Netflix fragmentation is mostly due to an inconsistent hardware platform and thus large variance in DRM standards that have been solved later in the devices life with Tegra 2 support being standardized. Is it fragmented, yes, but Google is doing a decent job at closing the fragmentation while still allowing users the freedom to choose from a variety of devices within different price ranges and features.

Re:Supported devices (2)

Telvin_3d (855514) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122634)

Really? Is the pace of phone hardware development so fast that there are significant changes every few months? Now, I love seeing a large variety of devices on the market, but a yearly release schedule doesn't sound unrealistic in terms of keeping us with actual development.

Re:Supported devices (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36122274)

How is it working on your 1st gen iphone?

Thought so. Now go suck Jobs' dick.

Re:Supported devices (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36122762)

Netflix works fine on my 1st gen iPod touch, which is even weaker than the 1st iPhone.

Nice try though.

Re:Supported devices (1)

iluvcapra (782887) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122282)

They are probably the five most popular.

On the other hand, you have to wonder if you're looking for a phone and you want Netflix, will it run today, will it run tomorrow? Is this exactly the SKU that runs Netflix?

Re:Supported devices (1)

oakgrove (845019) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122402)

Based on the fact that rooted phones (including my OG Droid) can run this application, this is more Netflix making an arbitrary decision than anything else. Furthermore, as an owner of a Droid, a Xoom, and a G1, I have found that I couldn't care less about the "fragmentation" you speak of. And as a geek and an Android developer, if anybody cared, it would be me. Well, I don't. And I actually know the difference between Eclair, Froyo, and Gingerbread. Joe Android Buyer hasn't the slightest clue what version of "Droid" he has and can't be bothered to find out. Fragmentation has devolved into a swear word irate Android haters throwh out when they having a hissy fit over the latest market share numbers. [google.com]

Re:Supported devices (2)

Svartalf (2997) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122448)

Actually, it appears to work on more than just those 5 (Reports of the Incredible working just fine...I'll have an Iconia A500 report here shortly...). It's just that they've CERTIFIED it to work with those 5 and officially support it there. BIG difference than the line you're running up the flagpole.

Re:Supported devices (1)

bookwormat (1985806) | more than 3 years ago | (#36123156)

not sure I understand your argument. Netflix runs on all US nexus devices as well as on all US iphone devices. Android is not an operating system in the sense that journalists use the word to describe iOS. It is a software stack which companies can use to build their own operating systems, with their own UI, applications, filesystems and so on. The Nexus S and The HTC Evo both run different operating systems, based on the same platform. If there are like 150 different mobile operating systems on the market right now, about 145 of these can be targeted with a single codebase, because they are based on Android. So, sure - Android Fragmentation is a problem. But compared to other approaches, it's a problem in paradise. Try making an app that runs on both ios and windows phone 7 and you see what I mean.

Re:Supported devices (1)

Pinky's Brain (1158667) | more than 3 years ago | (#36123356)

June 30th is getting close ... Netflix might very well disappear from the iOS app store altogether at that point.

Crazy URLs (1)

BBrown (70466) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122148)

Re:Crazy URLs (1)

Sunshinerat (1114191) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122234)

I agree, tried to change some of the false to true, but the page does not exist.
Also, changing normal to weird did not yield the desired effect.

Why is it so difficult to stick to nice URLs?

Re:Crazy URLs (1)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122774)

Because too few developers know about mod_rewrite?

Learning web development on shared hosting (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#36123028)

Because too few developers know about mod_rewrite?

There's a reason for this. A lot of web developers learned their skills on shared web hosting, and shared web hosting often does not include mod_rewrite access.

yesterday (1)

jupiterssj4 (801031) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122190)

Just announced yesterday... saw the news on facebook. Sucks that it isn't on my Droid 2 Global ... yet

Re:yesterday (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122224)

So edit build.prop. Oh noes, edit a text file and reboot.

Re:yesterday (3, Insightful)

CharlyFoxtrot (1607527) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122556)

edit a text file and reboot.

Android, bringing you all the features you loved from the good old days of DOS.

Re:yesterday (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122580)

In the grown up world everything is still done that way. How do you think apache is config-ed?

Minus the reboot of course.

Re:yesterday (1, Interesting)

CharlyFoxtrot (1607527) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122630)

Yeah I'm a Unix sysadmin, I know all about the "grown up world." This is a phone we're talking about though, it's supposed to just fucking work. I'm not going to spend my free time babysitting another computer, I already have plenty of those.

Re:yesterday (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122690)

This is not a phone, this is a computer that happens to make phone calls. Nothing just works. Things that claim to work sometimes and give no indication as to why not they do not.

Re:yesterday (2)

CharlyFoxtrot (1607527) | more than 3 years ago | (#36123012)

My iPhone "just works", my mac does a good job of just working most of the time especially compared to a Windows box or a Linux that needs tweaking for every little thing. They're not time-sinks which is why I got them in the first place, I've got a kid and the remains of my social life which I'd rather put my time into. Don't get me wrong I love that these things exist for you to tweak and play with and maybe I'll get one of these Android phones one of these days as a hobby thing, but my main computer and phone are utensils: they have to work as well as possible with as little maintenance as possible.

Re:yesterday (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 3 years ago | (#36123074)

Linux boxes don't need tweaking all the time, set it up run updates and be done with it. Sounds like Unix admin in your case means Mac Weenie.

Your iphone does not just work, send it a mime/multipart message that really only has html and text. Sure that should be mime/alternative, but either way showing nothing not even an error sure is not just working. We tested this on an iPhone 4 with all the updates and still it showed nothing, as though the email was blank.

Geek needs update BADLY! (1)

Chas (5144) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122200)

Well, I have a Nexus S. Unfortunately I'm on 2.2.1 at the moment. As my employers are paying my phone bill, including data overages, I kinda have to follow the order not to root the phone.

Re:Geek needs update BADLY! (1)

James Carnley (789899) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122216)

Your employer can keep your Nexus S from updating? I've never heard of this.

Why do they not want you to upgrade to the newest version? Does it really affect your business that much?

Re:Geek needs update BADLY! (1)

mlts (1038732) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122440)

If this is the case, one can run the employer's E-mail using an app like Nitrodesk's TouchDown. This way, the work stuff is under the restrictions of the Exchange policies (encrypted, etc.) However, that just affects the app. Plus, it keeps work's GAL from getting confused with one's personal GAL, if they have a personal Exchange account for mail.

Re:Geek needs update BADLY! (1)

Cougar Town (1669754) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122846)

At my work we have the option of getting issued a phone (a Blackberry.. ugh) or using a personal phone and being compensated monthly for it. I use my personal Nexus One because it's superior to a Blackberry (for me, anyway. Give me Android or iOS over Blackberry any day. I don't mean that in general for everyone, though. To each their own, whatever works for you, etc.) ... but I really don't like that Android 2.2.1 forced Exchange policies on my phone... ie. the admin can now remotely wipe my phone through Exchange if they want. However, my boss and I happen to be the admins, so it's not really a problem. I told him if he wipes my phone, I'll do evil things to our servers, then quit :)

I should note that my boss and I are friends and he took that as the joke it was meant to be, and I have no concerns that he'll ever wipe my phone on me... though even if he did, that's why I keep regular nandroid backups!

Re:Geek needs update BADLY! (1)

Chas (5144) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122806)

No. I've been given direct orders NOT to root the phone. They don't want our carrier possibly cutting service to the phone or any other issues arising from it getting in the way.

Since it's technically their phone, I say jack and shit about it.

Re:Geek needs update BADLY! (1)

Cougar Town (1669754) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122872)

You don't need to root the phone. As I and Locutus already pointed out, you should already have 2.3 Gingerbread if you have a Nexus S. It came with that from the moment it was available to the public. If there's a 2.2.1 available for it, it would already be a rooted custom firmware. Google never made firmware less than 2.3 for the Nexus S.

Re:Geek needs update BADLY! (1)

Cougar Town (1669754) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122270)

The Nexus S only ever came with 2.3. How can you have 2.2.1? Did you employer root your device and downgrade it?

Re:Geek needs update BADLY! (2)

Locutus (9039) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122414)

geek? really? The Nexus S only came with Gingerbread and it has been speculated that it is the reason why so many were held back from getting Gingerbread. You might want to recheck what phone you really have and what version of the OS you really have.

LoB

Didn't Netflix refuse to support Linux? (0)

Shompol (1690084) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122228)

Netflix refused to support Linux due to "Silverlight DRM issues". That, however, did not stop Roku from implementing Netflix client on a their linux-based system, and suddenly Android is not a problem as well. It seems to me that Silverlight is a lame excuse, and the real reason is that Netflix founder is on board at Microsoft.

Re:Didn't Netflix refuse to support Linux? (2)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122388)

Roku has DRM [deviceguru.com] . Now you know.

Android is Linux? (1)

assertation (1255714) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122240)

Is Android basically modified Linux? If it is, does mean that I might be able to use a Linux + PC combination with Netflix someday?

Re:Android is Linux? (3, Insightful)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122266)

Android does use the kernel, but unless you install the rest of a normal userland that is pretty much were it ends. You might be able to run this app in the emulator though.

Re:Android is Linux? (2)

AmbushBug (71207) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122416)

Apparently they are developing a Netflix plugin for Chrome that may work on Linux. See here [thechromesource.com] .

Re:Android is Linux? (1)

Nethemas the Great (909900) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122424)

No and for the same reasons: politics.

David Lynch is displeased. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36122242)

It's such a sadness that people think they've seen a movie on their fucking telephone. Get real.

Re:David Lynch is displeased. (2)

oakgrove (845019) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122460)

Er, what if the phone has hdmi out and HD playback capabilities like many phones do?

US only? (4, Informative)

Cougar Town (1669754) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122246)

I was excited by this... my Nexus One is on the list! So I clicked the Market link... and... "This item cannot be installed in your device's country." ... damnit! Netflix is available in Canada, why can't they make the app available? I use the Boxee Netflix app just fine here... sigh...

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iOS? Check. WinPhone7? Check. Android? NOPE! (-1, Troll)

krizoitz (1856864) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122272)

Once again the fragmentation of Android rears its ugly head. For the commenters above who talk about rooting their device, here's a hint: the vast majority of the population don't know how to do that, and more importantly SHOULDN'T have to.

So will Google continue to stick to its "open" (although not really cause the actually control the carriers and let the carriers control the users) mantra even though it leads to problems like this? Or will they admit that "open" has its disadvantages, and for a consumer product in particular it may not always be the best approach and they need to reign things in a bit?

Actually they seem to be picking a third option, going for tighter control of Android while simultaneously (and hypocritically) still trumpeting about how great Android is because its "open".

Enjoy your headaches Android users, the rest of us are going to be busy watching Netflix movies.

Re:iOS? Check. WinPhone7? Check. Android? NOPE! (3, Informative)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122308)

This has nothing to do with android fragmentation. The app runs fine if you lie to it about what phone you have. This is very clearly a business decision.

Enjoy your crippled devices, this android user is watching netflix on an unsupported device.

Re:iOS? Check. WinPhone7? Check. Android? NOPE! (1)

CharlyFoxtrot (1607527) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122586)

Having to root your phone and trick software into running on your device isn't crippled ?

Re:iOS? Check. WinPhone7? Check. Android? NOPE! (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122672)

Considering the alternative, which is not being able too, yeah.

I don't have to root my phone, never did. I just flashed an already rooted rom on it as soon as I got it. The netflix software is crippled, but that is netflix's fault.

Considering I am running 2.3.3 on a droid 1 and have busybox, and many other tools installed I am pretty happy.

Re:iOS? Check. WinPhone7? Check. Android? NOPE! (1)

CharlyFoxtrot (1607527) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122790)

The netflix software is crippled, but that is netflix's fault.

Is it really Netflix fault though or is the Android platform's problem ? After all this is a free app and testing cost money so what are the alternatives :

- only a limited number the most popular devices get tested and approved because after that the cost/benefit ration drops
- you release for all phones but post a list of "minimum system requirements" and we're back in the Windows world of software running crapily or not at all on some systems because it was coded to some high end hardware. And ordinary joe's are screwed because they're expected to learn how much memory their phone has or what GPU chip.

Netflix has chosen the first option which is the most sensible right now on Android if you still want to do some quality assurance.

Re:iOS? Check. WinPhone7? Check. Android? NOPE! (2)

oakgrove (845019) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122906)

Netflix has chosen the first option which is the most sensible right now on Android if you still want to do some quality assurance.

If that is true, then why are there so many applications in the Android market that do much more than stream video that work great on any device you put them on? I develop applications for Android and I haven't had any problems whatsoever with my software not running on someone's device. It's this simple:

<uses-sdk
android:minSdkVersion="5"
android:targetSdkVersion="11" />

and sticking to the official api's when writing your code. Surely Netflix with their bucketloads of cash can hire someone capable of that.

Re:iOS? Check. WinPhone7? Check. Android? NOPE! (0)

CharlyFoxtrot (1607527) | more than 3 years ago | (#36123122)

So this type of app runs fine on all devices (for now), a better example would be when Rovio could not support [rovio.com] Angry Birds on all Android devices because of performance worries. And what if Netflix implements some feature or eye-candy in a future version that would cause problems for some phones ? Then their customers would feel cheated, like Netflix dropped them. A PR disaster waiting to happen and Netflix' brand is one of their most important assets, far better from their standpoint to err on the side of caution.

Re:iOS? Check. WinPhone7? Check. Android? NOPE! (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 3 years ago | (#36123048)

Having to read a couple sentences means ordinary Joes are screwed?

You have one hell of a low expectation of those folks. As far as I can tell basically all of them made it through elementary school, reading is something they are quite clearly capable of.

Re:iOS? Check. WinPhone7? Check. Android? NOPE! (1)

CharlyFoxtrot (1607527) | more than 3 years ago | (#36123172)

Having to read a couple sentences means ordinary Joes are screwed?

You have one hell of a low expectation of those folks. As far as I can tell basically all of them made it through elementary school, reading is something they are quite clearly capable of.

I'm sure they can read them, understanding them is another matter. Go hang out in a department store computer section, see how many ask "how much memory a pc has" when they mean HD-size or how many grasp what a GPU is. This isn't something I hold against them, I'm equally useless when it comes to cars but they just work and I'm not expected to fiddle with them to get them to run.

Re:iOS? Check. WinPhone7? Check. Android? NOPE! (2)

oakgrove (845019) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122710)

GP:

this android user is watching netflix

You:

your device isn't crippled ?

Obviously not!

P.S. Looks like Slashdot has hit a new low when people are scorned for using their devices the way they want and not at the whim of the corporate nanny. Truly a sad day.

Re:iOS? Check. WinPhone7? Check. Android? NOPE! (1)

CharlyFoxtrot (1607527) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122880)

P.S. Looks like Slashdot has hit a new low when people are scorned for using their devices the way they want and not at the whim of the corporate nanny. Truly a sad day.

I think all users should be able to "root" or "jailbreak" any device they own if they so choose. The point was that he had to root it to do what he did, by your definition the iPhone isn't crippled either because it can be rooted to install unapproved apps or run another OS [pcworld.com] too.

Re:iOS? Check. WinPhone7? Check. Android? NOPE! (1)

oakgrove (845019) | more than 3 years ago | (#36123080)

I think all users should be able to "root" or "jailbreak" any device they own if they so choose. The point was that he had to root it to do what he did, by your definition the iPhone isn't crippled either because it can be rooted to install unapproved apps or run another OS too.

I can't really say whether the iPhone is crippled or not as I don't own one and never have. My comments are confined purely to Android in that regard. I will say this though; it is ridiculous to say that a device is "crippled" just because some big name dev shop decides they don't want to support it be that iPhone or Android. Google hasn't made a navigation app for the iPhone. Does that mean iOS is crippled? Of course not.

That's really all I have to say on that.

Re:iOS? Check. WinPhone7? Check. Android? NOPE! (1)

kwenf (1531623) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122314)

I miss the times when people though that DRM was bad.

Re:iOS? Check. WinPhone7? Check. Android? NOPE! (1)

iluvcapra (782887) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122442)

DRM was bad until it stopped being inconvenient.

Re:iOS? Check. WinPhone7? Check. Android? NOPE! (1)

Microlith (54737) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122518)

It's still inconvenient. The question is to what degree. Netflix's DRM is at best a joke, and at worst useless because no one gives a shit to rip low quality streams sent to a phone.

Re:iOS? Check. WinPhone7? Check. Android? NOPE! (2)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122840)

I miss the times when people though that DRM was bad.

DRM is ideal for rentals. What you're talking about is DRM for movies/software you keep.

Re:iOS? Check. WinPhone7? Check. Android? NOPE! (1)

tycoex (1832784) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122446)

No worries, I'll be enjoying openness AND Netflix on my Nexus.

Re:iOS? Check. WinPhone7? Check. Android? NOPE! (1)

Nethemas the Great (909900) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122466)

It's not the platform, it's a combination of device capabilities and provider reluctance. Movies don't come cheap in terms of bandwidth and most carriers are caught in a combination of NIMBY and underinvestment in capacity.

Re:iOS? Check. WinPhone7? Check. Android? NOPE! (3)

oakgrove (845019) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122482)

Once again the fragmentation of Android rears its ugly head.

How does Netflix intentionally not releasing their app for certain devices have anything to do with fragmentation? To spell it out, devices not on the approved list can run this app, Netflix just intentionally disallowed it. It's their choice and has nothing to do with Android. To wit, I have an OG Droid that is not on the supported devices list. Guess what? I installed the Netflix app and it works perfectly. The problem here lies solely at the feet of Netflix. Instead of blaming the victim, why don't you put your indignation to good use and shoot Netflix an email telling them how unhappy you are? Oh, that's right, because you are actually a troll. Now crawl back under your bridge.

Re:iOS? Check. WinPhone7? Check. Android? NOPE! (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122864)

How does Netflix intentionally not releasing their app for certain devices have anything to do with fragmentation? To spell it out, devices not on the approved list can run this app, Netflix just intentionally disallowed it. It's their choice and has nothing to do with Android.

Ok. So why did Netflix specify those particular phones?

Re:iOS? Check. WinPhone7? Check. Android? NOPE! (1)

oakgrove (845019) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122942)

Ok. So why did Netflix specify those particular phones?

I haven't the slightest clue. What I do know is that every phone I've heard of so far that is running Gingerbread is capable of running this app. My Droid does and it is the slowest of the "second generation" Android phones out there so it can't be for performance or memory reasons. Obviously, they baked their own DRM in as my Droid doesn't have anything that they would likely be using so it can't be that. So, you tell me, why those phones?

Re:iOS? Check. WinPhone7? Check. Android? NOPE! (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#36123000)

Ok. So why did Netflix specify those particular phones?

I haven't the slightest clue. What I do know is that every phone I've heard of so far that is running Gingerbread is capable of running this app. My Droid does and it is the slowest of the "second generation" Android phones out there so it can't be for performance or memory reasons. Obviously, they baked their own DRM in as my Droid doesn't have anything that they would likely be using so it can't be that. So, you tell me, why those phones?

I don't know, either. One thing that is pretty clear, though, is that it doesn't make sense from a business perspective for Netflix to only support certain phones, especially when it's clear the rest of phones can run the app. There is something going on there.

Where is the table support? (1)

Sunshinerat (1114191) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122300)

Only available on these devices today:
1. HTC Incredible with Android 2.2
2. HTC Nexus One with Android 2.2, 2.3
3. HTC Evo 4G with Android 2.2
4. HTC G2 with Android 2.2
5. Samsung Nexus S with Android 2.3.

They plan more, but no tablets so far... am I the only one who thinks this is strange?

Re:Where is the table support? (2)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122320)

Yes. They got it to work with a particular library, and decided to drop it before expanding it to use other libraries. Beta-testing and demand evaluation are valuable experiments.

Re:Where is the table support? (1)

bhcompy (1877290) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122494)

I'll have to try and force it to run my Pocket eDGe 2.2 tablet with that hack. If it works, I'll post it up

Re:Where is the table support? (1)

basotl (808388) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122738)

Works great on my NookColor with Phiremod based on CM7.
It also works great on my LG Optimus S with CM7.

Both are unsupported and ones an ereader, the other a low end free Android phone. By running well on this I think it shows how wide the range of hardware it can really run on.

Rooted Droid X w/ 2.2.1 (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36122368)

As others have noted, it is possible to get this on any android device, so long as you have 2.3. I'm on a rooted Droid X 2.2.1, and the app crashes back to desktop after I've changed the build.prop. If I revert by build.prop to factory default, I get an error message that my device isn't supported, and it won't stream anything, but I can still look at my queue, suggestions, etc.

I believe that VZW has leaked many beta builds of 2.3. You can find them on a few droid enthusiast websites. If you're looking to get netflix on a droid device and you don't have 2.3, I wouldn't hold your breath. (I of course could be wrong).

Sweet! Netflix on my phone... (1)

bab72 (302207) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122380)

Now, if they'll just make a cell phone with a 47 inch screen I can get rid of my TV.

Re:Sweet! Netflix on my phone... (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#36123110)

Now, if they'll just make a cell phone with a 47 inch screen I can get rid of my TV.

Well... you are right. People do seem awfully crazy when you don't understand their motivations.

Re:Sweet! Netflix on my phone... (1)

proverbialcow (177020) | more than 3 years ago | (#36123334)

Many Android phones have HDMI-out, which might be a good compromise.

Data cap in 4...3...2... (1)

hilldog (656513) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122522)

Yeah I can see Verizon or AT&T sitting still for this.

Re:Data cap in 4...3...2... (1)

Archangel Michael (180766) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122664)

They can try. And then people will "drop" Verizon or AT&T without the ETF. The problem is who do we go to, Sprint? gahhh

Works great (1)

Daetrin (576516) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122576)

We saw this news late last night, so after we went to bed [slashdot.org] i installed the app on my phone and we watched the first ten minutes of Zombieland. Basic playback worked great (at least on WiFi) but i didn't actually try out the controls at all.

I was somewhat dismayed right after the download when i saw the app was around 20 megs in size (i'm on the original Nexus, so main memory app space is at a premium) but was rather relieved when the move to SD card option reduced the size down to about 800 kb. (For those who don't pay attention to such things that's a pretty amazing ratio. A lot of apps will only move half the data or less to the SD card.)

5 Fucking phones??? (2)

markass530 (870112) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122948)

Seriously?? REALLY?? 5 Fucking phones are supported? WTF is the point?

But we can't get a linux client? (1)

HeavyAl (695278) | more than 3 years ago | (#36123108)

So here we have several devices, all of which run Android, a wonderfully portable OS based on Linux, and yet Netflix can't be bothered to get their service to work on Linux desktops? Sure, they use Silverlight to run the thing in a browser, but why couldn't they just port this app and give us a desktop client to view our paid subscriptions from? Is the source to this available somewhere?

This is so full of win I can't contain myself... (1)

joshamania (32599) | more than 3 years ago | (#36123196)

I don't think I've been quite so floored by a piece of tech in a decade...this is almost as good as discovering the web for the first time in 1998 as a "the future is now" kind of moment. I don't care about the interface (yet). I don't care about functionality...I don't even care that it just crashed my phone. I just saw this /. article about five minutes ago, immediately ran to my incredible and then to my nook (rooted)...wasn't available on the nook market for some reason...haven't bothered to investigate yet as I got sucked right into the last Top Gear episode I was watching.

Quality was surprisingly good, no hiccups in the five minutes I watched before it crashed. Much higher quality than the CBS/Sprint Survivor app that lets you watch the shows. Anyway, the point being that this is super pimp and I'm excited as hell about it.

LG Ally no dice (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36123256)

The app installs and works fine but says your device is not supported when you try to stream. Other than that I have full access to Netflix and it works well. Someone will crack it I'm sure and all of us will have Netflix on our Android phones in the near future. As for the 5 phones supported I bet there was a large payment made to Netflix for the right. They just don't want to admit it.

nonuniform drm == fragmented? (1)

drb226 (1938360) | more than 3 years ago | (#36123288)

As streaming movies requires certain features and specifications

aka DRM? People are pointing at this as evidence of "fragmentation". Yes, android allows some phones to be *less* DRMed. Yes, Android allows you to have a smartphone that's not superpowered enough to run Netflix. Hey, some people don't want or need the Netflix app. I'll take this kind of "fragmentation" anyday over the One Holy Certified Applestolic iThing.

One thing's for sure (1)

proverbialcow (177020) | more than 3 years ago | (#36123352)

As streaming movies requires certain features and specifications, only a select number of devices are supported for now.

The Nexus One is supported, so it's certainly not hardware specs preventing the install on other Android devices.
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