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Modern Warfare 3 Details Leak

Soulskill posted more than 3 years ago | from the somebody-just-got-fired dept.

First Person Shooters (Games) 56

fysdt writes "Details on the next Call of Duty game, Modern Warfare 3, have not simply leaked onto the internet; they have flooded. Among other details, a November 8 release date was mentioned. According to a report coming from Kotaku, what was just a month ago among the best kept secrets of the gaming industry — information on the next Call of Duty game — has now become anything but."

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Yes, and as we know (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36122814)

The plot is the bin Laden raid. Except, you have to fight your way past thousands of his men instead of how raids are actually done.

Or importantly.... (3, Insightful)

jpedlow (1154099) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122822)

....SCREW YOU BOBBY KOTICK..

ok now that I got that out of the way, I'd like to say that modern warfare 1 was brilliant, MW2 was fun but IWnet ruined it for pc gaming and killed the idea of having a LANparty. Now because of activision's "bold moves" EA has followed suit and it's neigh-on impossible to find a modern AAA shooter that allows you to have YOUR OWN (aka not rented) dedicated servers. Seriously, pc gamers helped make these companies huge, and now we're treated like we dont matter. I'm prettymuch done with both EA and Activision (ok, blizzard is the exception).. Sigh, I just wanna have a 32 person LANPARTY. :\

Re:Or importantly.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36122928)

You'll be pleased to know then, that DICE is giving PC players priority with the upcoming Battlefield 3 - which is prettymuch guaranteed to be a much better experience than another shlock-fest of COD regurgitation.

Re:Or importantly.... (1)

Skuto (171945) | more than 3 years ago | (#36125336)

They said that for Battlefield BC2 too ("dedicated servers are a given for the PC"), and see what you actually got: the "right" to rent a server at a few selected hosters, i.e. the right to pay their hosting bills for them. What a scam.

So please, don't buy the hype from DICE. We'll see how well they support the PC when they actually release it. And their reputation from the last release speaks against them.

Re:Or importantly.... (1)

bigpet (1695756) | more than 3 years ago | (#36123006)

I am sorry to tell you this but Starcraft 2 has no LAN mode and BNET 2.0 has screwed over more than its fair share of LAN tournament games and even screwed up a few games in the GSL, the biggest professionally produced Starcraft league.

As if that is not bad enough, I am pretty sure Diablo 3 will have no LAN either. Yay for Blizzard.

Re:Or importantly.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36123260)

KeSPA forced their hand. Better no-LAN and no KeSPA then LAN and KeSPA.

Re:Or importantly.... (1)

Jesus_666 (702802) | more than 3 years ago | (#36125548)

So a gaming league in Korea only allows games that don't have a LAN option? Perhaps Activision could instead release two versions of the game; one for casual gamers and a tournament version with LAN disabled. Then again, that would probably cost them more than just turning off LAN gaming for everyone and I don't expect more than the bare amount of customer care from Activision.

Re:Or importantly.... (1)

Vaphell (1489021) | more than 3 years ago | (#36126394)

care to explain what's wrong with kespa? ok, it treats players like shit but:
- it's Korean organization and doesn't have much weight outside SK
- it was created mainly by hardware/IT companies as a marketing vehicle for their products so it does not operate at a gigantic profit
- it singlehandedly created viable e-sport business around BroodWar and did all the required legwork to organize leagues, tournaments, teams and tv coverage
- it knows its shit - on the other hand legit tournaments of SC2 (including blizzard's own) look ungodly amateurish (dropped connections play huge part in that)
- it argues that its business is gameplay, which is the creation of players not blizzard, end of story. No rights violation because all copies of BroodWar were paid for
- it earned blizzard tons of money and reputation thanks to free advertising of BroodWar - the game belongs to a quite unpopular genre as far as general public is concerned (RTS) and would be abandoned and forgotten by the masses 3 years after release. Blizzard should be kissing their ass, not rent-seeking.

Do you think those 15 million copies during the last 12 years sold all by themselves?
Does NBA pay Spalding for the game devices called balls or it's the other way around - Spalding sponsoring NBA for the increased exposure so all the b-ball playing niggaz want to have one?
Don't cheer for blizzard because in case of SC2 it did an end run around kespa at the paying customer's rights expense. Blizzard should do what it does best - develop quality games - and stay out of competitive scene. Their shameless money squeezing hurts viability of competitive gaming more than it helps.

Re:Or importantly.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36123632)

Somehow that doesn't seem to have prevented Blizzard from making shitloads of money.

Re:Or importantly.... (1)

creat3d (1489345) | more than 3 years ago | (#36123938)

That argument doesn't mean much, nothing about WoW prevented people from playing it either...

Re:Or importantly.... (1)

TriezGamer (861238) | more than 3 years ago | (#36123330)

...EA has followed suit and it's neigh-on impossible to find a modern AAA shooter...

A My Little Pony fan, or just a case of confusion ... we will never know.

Re:Or importantly.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36124086)

If it wasn't for my horse, I would have never made it through college.

Re:Or importantly.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36124538)

If it wasn't for my horse, I would have never made it through college.

If it wasn't for my horse... If it wasn't for my horse... If it wasn't for my horse... WHAT DID SHE MEAN?!?!?!?

Re:Or importantly.... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36123466)

Sigh, I just wanna have a 32 person LANPARTY. :\

implying you have that many friends
implying you have friends at all

Re:Or importantly.... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36123628)

Know what you mean. Both myself and my brother have bought HL, HL2, CS, CS:Source, COD4, COD5, CODmw2 (my brother, not myself). Sad that in a house with a dozen PCs we can't play against each other with the latest games that... well frankly aren't as playable as CS. I don't even want a 32-person LAN party, just to play against friends and family. So glad I didn't bother wasting my money buying further into the COD franchise... now come on iD! What can I look forward to next?

Phillip.

Re:Or importantly.... (1)

interkin3tic (1469267) | more than 3 years ago | (#36123766)

pc gamers helped make these companies huge, and now we're treated like we dont matter

If it's any consolation, it's nothing personal. If they thought they could make more money by screwing over the console users and playing nice to PC users, they'd do that.

For that matter, if they could make more money making the game and then not selling it to anyone, maybe playing it in a window and letting gamers of all types press their faces against the glass but never touch a machine running it, they'd do that gleefully.

Let me explain why... (1)

lexsird (1208192) | more than 3 years ago | (#36125442)

Cheaters. PCs, your own servers, these are all too vulnerable to cheaters and their hacks. Punk Buster used to do a pretty fair job back in the day, but when Valve and their completely POS STEAM set up with VAC...another POS, everything went right into the toilet. When the only way to compete is to use hacks yourself, the game is destroyed.

I am wanting to find a secure system to play in. I was hoping the PS3 would be free of these cheaters, but some punks have this burned down still. One of the posters is correct, it's going to destroy the industry, people will just leave. There are other things to do in life besides play computer games that are full of cheating waste of human skin punks.

We need draconian laws for this. Lets make one that reads if you do a million dollars of damage to a company, like hack their game, and ruin it and it adds up to that or more, you are executed. We used to hang people for stealing horses, but we can't hang someone over stealing/destroying the equivalent of hundreds of horses? This should count for virus writers/distributors as well. This Anonymous bunch...for their weeks now of interrupting so many people's enjoyment of their property, we execute their leader and 25 years no parole/hard labor for the rest.

We also need a global ID card, that is chipped with your DNA sequence, retina scan, medical records, criminal records, educational records, banking/financial records, driving/piloting records, licenses and permits included, as well as GPS tracking. Don't leave home without it, it's a crime. You will be detained until your card is reunited with you. Should you refuse a card, you shall have to be segregated from the rest of law abiding society where you will have to fend for yourself.

Re:Let me explain why... (1)

Jesus_666 (702802) | more than 3 years ago | (#36125602)

Cheaters. PCs, your own servers, these are all too vulnerable to cheaters and their hacks. Punk Buster used to do a pretty fair job back in the day, but when Valve and their completely POS STEAM set up with VAC...another POS, everything went right into the toilet. When the only way to compete is to use hacks yourself, the game is destroyed.

The proper way to prevent that is to distinguish between games playes via the matchmaking service and games played on ded servers like Blizzard used to do with Battle.net games vs. LAN games. The matchmaking mode can be made as secure as you like while the LAN/ded server mode allows people to cheat as much as they want. Everyone is happy. Admittedly people will still try to cheat on the matchmaking service but you can ban their game's serial number if you find out. That would be a deterrent. You could even set up two matchmaking services (actually just a per-game flag) where one allows people to use cheats if they can get past the cheat prevention software and the other one will give increasingly long bans to cheaters. The wrong approach is to force everyone onto the matchmaking service and declare that LAN parties are not something you want yourself associated with.

I am wanting to find a secure system to play in. I was hoping the PS3 would be free of these cheaters, but some punks have this burned down still. One of the posters is correct, it's going to destroy the industry, people will just leave. There are other things to do in life besides play computer games that are full of cheating waste of human skin punks.

I'm of the opinion that lack of a LAN mode is equally destructive, just to different people. No multiplayer without an internet connection means a game that occasionally simply refuses service to me (somethimes even in the middle of a LAN game) and no ded servers means a worse experience because I have to rely on machines halfway around the world to set up and manage my session fluently. Cheaters are a non-issue because I usually only play with people I know and trust. Which is actually a much more effective cheating prevention system than PunkBuster or the arbitrary removal of multiplayer modes. That may not be your situation but it's mine and it's the reason I might not buy Diablo 3 - with a broken multiplayer implementation like StarCraft 2 it's going to be of lesser value to me than the still-perfectly-fine Diablo 2, which I already own.

[rather transparent trolling]

Here, have a cupcake.

Re:Or importantly.... (1)

Ailure (853833) | more than 3 years ago | (#36139130)

It's gotten to the point that when a game does have dedicated servers, it often boasts about it in it's advertising. Sure I consider it a huge plus too, but it's sad that it's no longer expected from a FPS.

lemme guess (2)

sixsixtysix (1110135) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122824)

it will a half finished game where you have to buy the rest?

Re:lemme guess (2)

zill (1690130) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122978)

Rumor has it only half of bin Laden's head is included in the game. The other half is DLC.

Re:lemme guess (1)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#36123212)

Obama's using it as an ashtray.

You'll never hear of it because he's keeping his smoking a secret from his wife.

Details... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36122834)

In campaign mode you mostly shoot at bad guys and hide behind convenient piles of things. There is a vague story however it won't get in the way of shooting things (don't worry). A new AI system has been designed that will ensure nothing out of the ordinary or interesting happens.

In multiplayer you mostly shoot at other people online and use cover to grief people repeatedly. It promises to have different maps than the previous release as well as a system that rewards 14 year old males dual auto-shotguns with continuous fire.

There are some interesting new features like the new "vampire mode" which allows you to co-operatively shoot zombies, robots and ninjas in the undersea world of Rapture with your friends or people you hate that randomly attach themselves to you online.

Oh there, will be one "controversial" story point where you trigger a nuclear meltdown (this grants a special achievement entitled "Do nuke-them, forever" though this mission may be bugged and will be released later as DLC at a future unspecified date)

Re:Details... (1)

Leo Sasquatch (977162) | more than 3 years ago | (#36125222)

In campaign mode you mostly shoot at bad guys and hide behind convenient piles of things. There is a vague story however it won't get in the way of shooting things (don't worry). A new AI system has been designed that will ensure nothing out of the ordinary or interesting happens.

In multiplayer you mostly shoot at other people online and use cover to grief people repeatedly. It promises to have different maps than the previous release as well as a system that rewards 14 year old males dual auto-shotguns with continuous fire.

Wow! Sounds amazing! So fresh, original and innovative! But wait... How did you *know* all this...? You must be psychic! Can you use your awesome powers to determine if the palette will have three colours, four, or maybe even the legendary and much-rumoured five-colour palette?

Bring it back (1)

Mike Mentalist (544984) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122862)

CoD was good. CoD 2 was fantastic.

It's been downhill ever since.

Playstation 3 (3, Insightful)

xcfmx (25409) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122876)

Sorry, no multiplayer on PS/3 because PSN will still be down.

Take a wild flailing stab in the dark. (1)

senorpoco (1396603) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122886)

$60 for 2/3rds of a game

Re:Take a wild flailing stab in the dark. (1)

Nyder (754090) | more than 3 years ago | (#36124986)

$60 for 2/3rds of a game

It probably needs online activation also.

Battlefield 3 (1)

Hadlock (143607) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122896)

How is this making slashdot's front page, yet we haven't heard a peep about Battlefield 3 yet, it's direct competitor who has been pounding their marketing war drum since at least October 2010? And arguably the better engine (not to mention an emphasis on PC localization).

Re:Battlefield 3 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36123094)

How is this making slashdot's front page, yet we haven't heard a peep about Battlefield 3 yet, it's direct competitor who has been pounding their marketing war drum since at least October 2010? And arguably the better engine (not to mention an emphasis on PC localization).

everyone knows a better engine makes a better game right...?

Re:Battlefield 3 (1)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#36123240)

I'm sorry, did BF3 have superbowl commercials with Kobe "Black Mamba" Bryant and other famous mofo's playing out the game's action IRL?

No?

Then CoD kicked their ever-lovin' asses in the drumbeat department, and any tiny thing they do from now on will have the impact of a full-out marketing blitz.

Re:Battlefield 3 (1)

Alastor187 (593341) | more than 3 years ago | (#36123558)

I'm sorry, did BF3 have superbowl commercials with Kobe "Black Mamba" Bryant and other famous mofo's playing out the game's action IRL?

No?

Then CoD kicked their ever-lovin' asses in the drumbeat department, and any tiny thing they do from now on will have the impact of a full-out marketing blitz.

Hmmmm......

CoD IRL with Kobe Brynat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yzeCsv-qrM [youtube.com]

or

BF3 Fault Line Trailer (actual gameplay): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zw8SmsovJc [youtube.com]

Yea I would definitely buy a FPS just because a basketball player was in the commercial, with no real gameplay, that aired during a football game. Consumerism at it's best I guess.

Excellent PR work (1)

darknb (1193867) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122910)

Leaked? How come all these 'leaked' video game articles always look like perfectly assembled press releases?

Here are the original Kotaku articles:

http://kotaku.com/5801226/the-modern-warfare-3-files-exclusive-first-details-on-the-biggest-game-of-2011
http://kotaku.com/5801353/modern-warfare-3-multiplayer-features-battles-in-brooklyn-clash-in-mogadishu/gallery/
http://kotaku.com/5801345/where-youll-go-how-youll-kill-and-who-will-die-in-modern-warfare-3

I wonder if they were delivered pre-written?

Full Disclosure: I loved MW and MW2. I would still be playing MW2 if PSN network wasn't completely fucked

Re:Excellent PR work (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36123052)

Splinter Cell 6 got "leaked" as well, but who leaks a photo of a sound studio with the Splinter Cell 6 logo plastered on each screen.

1/10 to UBISoft.

Leak is a funny sensationalist term for lazy news.

Re:Excellent PR work (3, Insightful)

billcopc (196330) | more than 3 years ago | (#36123542)

You must be new here (looks at UID), yep, balls haven't even dropped yet.

Kotaku is, pretty much, a press release site. In case you hadn't noticed, it is part of Gawker Media. They have about as much originally-researched content as IGN, which is to say, Zero.

Re:Excellent PR work (1)

perryizgr8 (1370173) | more than 3 years ago | (#36125496)

Leaked? How come all these 'leaked' video game articles always look like perfectly assembled press releases?

Here are the original Kotaku articles:

http://kotaku.com/5801226/the-modern-warfare-3-files-exclusive-first-details-on-the-biggest-game-of-2011 [kotaku.com]
http://kotaku.com/5801353/modern-warfare-3-multiplayer-features-battles-in-brooklyn-clash-in-mogadishu/gallery/ [kotaku.com]
http://kotaku.com/5801345/where-youll-go-how-youll-kill-and-who-will-die-in-modern-warfare-3 [kotaku.com]

I wonder if they were delivered pre-written?

Full Disclosure: I loved MW and MW2. I would still be playing MW2 if i had just gotten a 360

Re:Excellent PR work (1)

kuzb (724081) | more than 3 years ago | (#36125614)

All FPS games are trash on consoles anyway (with the possible exception of fallout 3), so anyone who didn't buy it for the 360 didn't miss anything.

A leak or advertisement? (1)

Holammer (1217422) | more than 3 years ago | (#36122990)

If it was a real leak I don't think seemingly legit sites like Kotaku would revel in the information the way they do. This sounds and looks more like an experiment in viral marketing.

Re:A leak or advertisement? (1)

Dahamma (304068) | more than 3 years ago | (#36123744)

Are you kidding? Kotaku is a Gawker property, ie. part of the same company as Gawker.com and Gizmodo, among others. Journalistic standards and integrity run pretty thin over there...

Re:A leak or advertisement? (1)

perryizgr8 (1370173) | more than 3 years ago | (#36125502)

people seriously think kotaku is legit??
i mean, after the gizmodo iphone shitfanning and gawker's complete ineptness to secure their users' info, i've stopped clicking on links to any of those sites.

DLC (3, Insightful)

Seumas (6865) | more than 3 years ago | (#36123132)

The annual release makes the previous games obsolete. What I hate about this (in concept, mostly, since I don't play much COD/MW) is that a game has about one year of life left at launch. Then they launch a DLC map pack three months in. So that's $15 for maps that have nine months of life left. Then they release more DLC six months in, for another $15. So that's full $15 price for only half the original life span. Then (if I recall) they usually release a third and final map pack for these (the last three titles, at least). So another full $15 for only a quarter left of the life span.

You know these games are going to be popular. Just fucking make the content and release it up front. Charge another $45 for it and people are going to pay it, because then they can get a full year of content out of it (and those of us who grow tired of the same few maps in the first few months and stop playing out of sheer boredom, before the first map pack is even released will probably stick around longer).

Also, this was "leaked" in as much as someone said "let's get this out there and see people's reaction while there is still time to change some of our direction if there is a backlash".

Re:DLC (1)

billcopc (196330) | more than 3 years ago | (#36123576)

Yeah, but you know... as much as I hate the DLC business model, particularly when the payee is Bobby "Money" Kotick, I kind of like the idea of new maps being added later in the lifecycle. I prefer that periodic refresh, over having them all available up-front and being overwhelmed. A big part of these games is learning the maps and figuring out strategies. If you start out with 20 maps, you'll end up playing each one half as often as if there were only 10 maps. I'd rather get good at the first 10, then when things start getting dull, get another 5 tacked on to mix things up. Then another 5 maps a few months later. I guess I got used to this with Quake, CS and TF, since the first few months had only the baked-in maps, then people started producing and distributing their own and things stayed interesting...

Ideally, those maps should be free, but I don't think the gaming industry will ever go back to "not screwing the customer".

Re:DLC (1)

Seumas (6865) | more than 3 years ago | (#36123616)

Ideally, the price of the DLC would be pro-rated or maps would always be free or they would prolong the life of the game. I mean, the latest version of Counter Strike has been going for almost eight years, now. The latest version of MW/COD has been going for six months and will mostly expire in about five months. (I know some will still play beyond that, but the majority of the community moves on).

Re:DLC (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36125648)

"Charge another $45 for it and people are going to pay it"

fucking never, and here is why

i did purchase mw - that was beyond awesome, i still play it time to time, great game with no restrictions on servers + free maps & tons of players at any time with ping superiror to just about every other game i play except cs & bfbc2

mw2 - no servers, ok i could leave with it, my line & puter are strong enough to host.

they released first map pack, i liked the game so i went and bough it... only to find out that for the next 3 or 4 month I was UNABLE to play in normal game modes, with normal online browse with my friend, because these cocksuckers at activision separated players by those who did and did not buy the map packs, at the time when you browse to find available lobbies

fine i was pissed, but they finally merged the those who do with those who don't so i purchased map pack 2 :(

black ops [my biggest mistake ever as far as purchasing anything at the top of the not to ever do again list, right below getting a used geo storm

  - it was all supposed to be there - right? - dedicated servers, no restrictions along the lines of "bonus content" wheee

fuck fuck fuck the game drops fps on a 6xcore with 8gb of ram, raid-0 with 2 sata drives and 1gb video card

opened support case with everyone - steam, activision, treyarch after weeks of telling me to upgade everything that could have been updated software & firmware wise, i've sent activision/debugger logs with my perhaps unprofessional but still quite comprehensive research for your average pc user

guess what i found & can still replicate with all the latest patches

- if you hit alt + tab within game you textures may become corrupt [confirmed by activision as an official bug]

- if you happen to have an on board audio of realtek chipset older then 2010, you may experience stuttering [confirmed by activision as an official "issue" with "some" realtek chipsets]

if you do not enable v sync in game's options, the game not only drops fps but also crashes with unhandled exceptions roughly after the 3rd / 4th online match

so fuck, i'm supposed to play this pos with fps drops from well above 125 fps to well below 10?

with no sound?

and god forbid my finger hits the windows key on the keyboard, i might be unable to alt - tab back intot he game?

what map packs?

what mw3?

FUCK YOU ACTIVISION TREAYRCH AND THE REST OF THE GREEDY UNSKILLED TWATS HAVING ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE BUTCHERY OF THE MW SERIES

needless to say, i'm going to pirate every fucking product these fucks come up with, because they took liberty to take my money and take a piss at issues with their faulty fucking product

i've advised all my friend on/off line to do same, such companies are simply not worthy of our money.

luckily bf still kicks ass! and there are tons of awesome games out there.

and for those who will say "its your pc, runs fine here" that same pc that has the issue with black ops, runs crysis 2, homefront and just about ANY other game released in last few years without any issues...

There is going to be a '3'? (1)

EnderWiggum (1458317) | more than 3 years ago | (#36123216)

Really, does the Slashdotter crowd care? I assumed that Shub-Internet had risen and swallowed Activision and Infinity Ward whole. Are they still making games? A pox on the lot of them. Those jerks have proven conclusively that they hate us PC gamers, to the extent that most of the Infinity Ward employees quit and started a new company. I'll be waiting on that game, thanks. Keep your money. While I'm at it, screw EA too!

Re:There is going to be a '3'? (1)

perryizgr8 (1370173) | more than 3 years ago | (#36125514)

i thought mw and mw2 are the most pc optimized fpses you can buy right now? except for maybe crysis. and you think iw is shafting pc users?

Re:There is going to be a '3'? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36125564)

Huh? What the hell are you smoking, dude?

Re:There is going to be a '3'? (1)

kuzb (724081) | more than 3 years ago | (#36125608)

Yes, mechwarrior and mechwarrior 2 were both superbly optimized for the PC. Oh, you mean modern warfare - the game which has already come and gone and beaten the horse to death.

Re:There is going to be a '3'? (1)

EnderWiggum (1458317) | more than 3 years ago | (#36126028)

No argument there. MW2 may be the best PC FPS available. "Most optimized" doesn't mean "good", though. Yes, I think the lack of dedicated servers IS the shaft. My friends and I are still playing "cod: world at war", because we can control the server completely. Many hardcore multi-player FPS gamers aren't interested in anything without a fully dedicated server. I'm not worried, though. This void will be filled by another company, soon enough. The market will provide. -chris

Re:There is going to be a '3'? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36125848)

There's going to be a 4 and 5 and 6 too. But they'll probably switch to using years like Madden. Modern Warfare 2012, etc.

Wut? (1)

MaxBooger (1877454) | more than 3 years ago | (#36123222)

The game will feature a storyline

Well that's new...

Not again (1)

spamdog (646409) | more than 3 years ago | (#36123432)

"a Russian force invades Manhattan." Oh no. No no no no. Please can we come up with a new plot?

Re:Not again (1)

Issarlk (1429361) | more than 3 years ago | (#36125858)

What's not to like? It's highly original: they used russians instead of North Korean.

IW 4.0 engine is a old hag now (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36125358)

Yay another full/overpriced game using the same old tired engine and shoveling out more crap for the masses to buy. Keep moving on folks nothing to see here. I'll pass.

yawn (1)

kuzb (724081) | more than 3 years ago | (#36125604)

Same tired rehash of the same theme. I wish people would actually innovate in games like they used to.

Remember Guitar Hero ... Just Say No (1)

killdashnine (651759) | more than 3 years ago | (#36126344)

Games like this tend to go gold/platinum merely because gamers (or more likely, their parents) "buy the game on spec" sheerly on the brand name. The game industry gets it and uses that to their advantage. The trick is to discourage people from buying games like this so if you're a gamer and see someone who's making this decision and "just say no". Harder than it looks really ...
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