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X-Men: First Class

CmdrTaco posted more than 3 years ago | from the it-lacks-snikkt dept.

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I wasn't sure what to expect from the new X-Men: First Class movie. The previous 3 films have been riddled with ups and downs. What I didn't realize is that this film was going to really be a Prequel. I thought it was going to be a bit more of a reboot, but it still tries to fit in with the previous films. Read on for a brief review which will contain some spoilers. You have been warned!

The core the film takes place in the '60s, surrounding the Cuban Missile Crisis. This is a mixed bag: the fashion seems pretty spot on, which extends from mini-skirts to the actual character costumes which are generally much closer to their original comic source material than most comic movies these days. The music is pretty nice, but there are some musical cues that aren't period appropriate and it felt wrong to me.

The bulk of the story involves Professor X and Magneto meeting and starting the X-Men with a batch of kids that you mostly don't care about. Jean Grey and Wolverine and Rogue to me are the X-Men. But the X-Men pantheon is huge, and chars like Havoc and Banshee just don't have the same stuff for me. But that's ok because they are minor compared to the Professor, Mystique and Magneto in the scope of the movie.

The story is pretty simple: The psychic and his shapeshifting friend are met by the government official, and build a team to stop a super villain (Kevin Bacon) who is hell-bent on triggering a Nuclear War between the super powers. Mutant Pride! Humans Bad! Let's All Get Along! You know the themes the X-Men play with: they're all here in fairly heavy handed doses.

So here's my thoughts: Emma Frost was weak. I don't know why Mad Men's January Jones missed the mark: she was cold, but boring. It just didn't work for me. When Beast finally gets his ultimate mutation, he looks laughably bad. Watching Magneto make ridiculous faces when he attempts to move whatever giant iron plot device stands in his way gets old. And I don't know what the budget on this one was, but many of the effects were just below what I'd expect from a summer blockbuster.

The good news is that Charles & Magneto's plot is mostly solid and interesting. Watching Prof X hit on chicks as a young man is fun. Magneto's backstory is ground into you, but there are a number of really awesome scenes where he comes off as seriously badass. Mystique is mostly well handled as well. Sadly when all the X-Men pupils are together, things get a little cheesy. But I guess they are supposed to be teenagers. There are also a couple of cute cameos.

My short answer is that I went in with fairly low expectations: The last X-Men was rough — I just wanted a movie better than that. And I really got that and more. I think Thor was a bit more fun. And honestly I'm more excited for Green Lantern right now than either of these.

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Your mother (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36352816)

She's a fucking whore.

I could not agree more. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36352882)

And cheap, too!

Re:Your mother (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36353178)

So his wife. She plows 15 black men a night. Taco still hasn't realized that "his" baby is actually conceived from one of her extramarital excursions.

Re:Your mother (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36353466)

Taco's pretty challenged (see the "grammer" and "sppelling " in this regurgitation/barely-digested diarrhea splatter transvestited into a "revyoo"), but I'm pretty sure he would notice if his spawn was conceived with a black man's semen (it does tend to leave certain marks...).

Re:Your mother (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36353492)

Didn't say it was from one of the black men. She's pretty much open for business to anyone.

Re:Your mother (0, Offtopic)

roman_mir (125474) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353786)

you, bastard, what do you have against fucking whores? Where would the world be without them exactly?

Nothing to see here... (1)

dakkon1024 (691790) | more than 3 years ago | (#36352840)

The movie maybe different from the (comic) book. You have been WARNED!

Re:Nothing to see here... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36352872)

That's fine; the problem is that the movie is also different (i.e. inconsistent with) the other movies in the series.

Re:Nothing to see here... (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36353034)

Is this another indication of our collective mental devolution and frog sized attention span? At one time people would complain that a movie didn't match the book it was based on. Now they complain because it doesn't follow the comic.

Inconsistencies with X3: Last Stand (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36352862)

Borrowed from Yahoo Answers (http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110604161805AApI3mr):

* In X2, you can see Beast still as human on the TV
* In X2, Magneto revealed he helped create Cerebro with Xavier. In First Class, the Cerebro prototype was made by Beast with input from Xavier.
* Emma Frost is a teen in X-men Origins: Wolverine, which is set in the 70s. In First Class, which is set in the 60s, she is an adult.
* In the comics, Havok is the younger brother of Cyclops. I'm not sure if they're are still brothers in the film, but Havok is now older than Cyclops.

Re:Inconsistencies with X3: Last Stand (1)

the_hellspawn (908071) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353282)

you bastard! I didn't need to know this information. Damn you AC!

They killed the black man first. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36352908)

Trite.

Re:They killed the black man first. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36353552)

He couldn't evolve.

Kevin Bacon has played many roles in his career (1)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 3 years ago | (#36352914)

but this movie proved to me that, above all else, Kevin Bacon is really good at playing assholes in the movies

plus I liked the brief cameos: the Hugh Jackman F-bomb scene and the Rebecca Romijn Mystique reprise. But where the fuck was Storm? Halle Berry couldn't be bothered or they didn't offer her enough $ for a brief appearance?

Re:Kevin Bacon has played many roles in his career (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36352976)

Halle was awful, lets not bring her back ever. Thank you.

Re:Kevin Bacon has played many roles in his career (1)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353632)

you must be female. as any male is impressed no matter what halle berry does

Re:Kevin Bacon has played many roles in his career (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36353714)

as any male is impressed no matter what halle berry does

Except the gay ones, and those who see a film for the acting rather than just a pretty face. Idiot.

Re:Kevin Bacon has played many roles in his career (1)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353738)

Hey, asshole: she's an academy award winner. Meaning: she's a pretty face, plus a lot more. If you place her mentally in the same category as Pam Anderson, you're the idiot.

I await your lecture as to why her academy award for best actress has no meaning.

So sayeth an anonymous coward on the Internet, signifying nothing.

Re:Kevin Bacon has played many roles in his career (2)

morgaen (1896818) | more than 3 years ago | (#36354042)

Chill out. People have different opinions.
The Academy awards are practically meaningless anyway. Unfortunately, the critical worth, artistic vision, cultural influence, and innovative qualities of many films are not given the same voting weight. Especially since the 80s, moneymaking 'formula-made' blockbusters with glossy production values have often been crowd-pleasing titans (and Best Picture winners), but they haven't necessarily been great films with depth or critical acclaim by any measure. No award will ever make up for Catwoman and Swordfish.

Re:Kevin Bacon has played many roles in his career (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36353804)

Uh... no. Storm should have been an older woman than Halle Berry. Vanessa Williams or Khandi Alexander (remember NewsRadio?) would be my first two choices and I'm sure there's a bunch much more interesting actresses that could portray Storm than Halle Berry.

Re:Kevin Bacon has played many roles in his career (1)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353882)

wow

halle berry hate above and beyond expected nerd parameters

readjusting nerd proximator settings

Re:Kevin Bacon has played many roles in his career (1)

cpu6502 (1960974) | more than 3 years ago | (#36352994)

>>>this movie proved to me that, above all else, Kevin Bacon is really good at playing assholes

That was proved to me when I saw Kevin Bacon in the Invisible Man. Dark personality. Very dark. (Also fun to watch him play with that one chick's nipple. There's just not enough breast foddling in 2010 movies.) ;-)

Re:Kevin Bacon has played many roles in his career (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36353002)

but this movie proved to me that, above all else, Kevin Bacon is really good at playing assholes in the movies

plus I liked the brief cameos: the Hugh Jackman F-bomb scene and the Rebecca Romijn Mystique reprise. But where the fuck was Storm? Halle Berry couldn't be bothered or they didn't offer her enough $ for a brief appearance?

During the Cerebro mind sweep she showed up as a little girl.

Re:Kevin Bacon has played many roles in his career (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36353022)

In the scene where prof x is searching for mutants they showed a small black girl with white hair. She's maybe 5 or 6. I believe that was storm... Storm isn't nearly as old as prof x and magneto so this is to be expected. She isn't of age when this movie was made.

Ororo was there, but the cameo was briefer (5, Interesting)

Benfea (1365845) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353388)

SPOILER: When Xavier was trying out Cerebro for the first time and sifting through the minds of millions of people, one of the images to fly by the screen was what was clearly supposed to be Ororo as a child.

Re:Kevin Bacon has played many roles in his career (2)

JayBean (841258) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353450)

Halle Berry would have been too young to show up in this film. Had Storm been one of the first class members, she would be in her late forties/early fifties when they shift to present day stories. Wolverine and Mystique both age slowly, so they can make cameos without breaking continuity.

Re:Kevin Bacon has played many roles in his career (2)

MrHanky (141717) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353490)

Personally, I find Kevin Bacon is exceptional when playing assholes in Filipino horror movies from New York.

Re:Kevin Bacon has played many roles in his career (1)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353616)

i'm the only asshole in a Filipino horror movie from New York

Re:Kevin Bacon has played many roles in his career (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36353744)

whoosh

Re:Kevin Bacon has played many roles in his career (2)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353818)

whoosh whoosh

Seriously? (1)

roc97007 (608802) | more than 3 years ago | (#36352922)

> What I didn't realize is that this film was going to really be a Prequel.

...didn't realize... So... you missed all the clips and previews, then?

Re:Seriously? (1)

xouumalperxe (815707) | more than 3 years ago | (#36352974)

...didn't realize... So... you missed all the clips and previews, then?

So... you missed the bit where he said he thought it was a reboot? It being a prequel was news to me as well.

Re:Seriously? (1)

roc97007 (608802) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353288)

As an X-men fan, as I assume you are, I can't believe you missed that in the plethora of advance materials on the film.

But to be utterly pedantic, I didn't see anything in the film that would forbid it from being a reboot. Personally, I'd like to pretend the other movies didn't happen. I suspect that won't be the case, but hope springs eternal.

Re:Seriously? (1)

Mongoose Disciple (722373) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353998)

, I'd like to pretend the other movies didn't happen.

I get that for X3, but X2? That's about as good of a movie as could ever be made out of X-Men as a source material.

Which isn't to say it's Citizen Kane, but sometimes what works in a comic doesn't work awesome in a movie, and given the limitations of the source material it's a pretty great movie.

Re:Seriously? (1)

khr (708262) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353236)

...didn't realize... So... you missed all the clips and previews, then?

Actually, I always try to miss all the clips and previews for any movie I'm vaguely interested in watching. They're so much more enjoyable going in with minimal expectations. And the previews usually give away too much, not enough that while watching the preview you know what's going to happen, but when watching the movie itself, having seen the previews, they've given you too much of a look into the later parts of the movie.

I avoid watching previews if I can, and if I've seen a preview, avoid watching the movie for a few years, until the I've forgotten what I saw.

Re:Seriously? (1)

roc97007 (608802) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353342)

> Actually, I always try to miss all the clips and previews for any movie I'm vaguely interested in watching. They're so much more enjoyable going in with minimal expectations.

Fair enough. I can appreciate that, and years ago I tried to do the same thing. The problem is, I got suckered into a big budget crapfest wayyyy too many times, and at today's prices, I just can't justify that anymore. A certain amount of Caveat Emptor is necessary these days in my opinion, which necessitates that surprises are fewer on opening days. Feel free to disagree.

For instance, I very nearly ended up paying money to see Sucker Punch...

Re:Seriously? (1)

tixxit (1107127) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353964)

Same here. I stopped watching cable TV back when I was in University (couldn't afford it) and soon realized how much a trailer can ruin a movie. It was great going in to see a blockbuster and having 0 expectations about the movie. I still don't have cable, even though I'm no longer a broke student, and still avoid trailers like the plague. I also hate it when my friends hype up movies I haven't seen :\

Re:Seriously? (1)

ildon (413912) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353870)

A lot of my friends thought it would be a true reboot instead of a prequel, too. Looking back, I didn't really have any logic to back up thinking it would be a prequel rather than a reboot before I went in, either.

WANTED: Editor! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36352924)

While I appreciate reviews of relevant media, I also appreciate proper diction and sentence structure. For example when the OP wrote,
"So here's my thoughts: Emma Frost was weak I don't know why Mad Men's January Jones missed the mark: she was cold, but boring.",
the use of a double colon along with a lack of almost any other punctuation makes this a strange series of sentence fragments and other collections of words.
Another wonderful quip from the OP, "But that's ok because they are minor compared to the Professor, Mystique and Magneto in the scope of the movie." includes lack of punctuation and a bit of a halting choice of structure.

While this was certainly a readable piece, I do expect more from a movie review.

Re:WANTED: Editor! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36352944)

The best part is that this post came from Slashdot's fucking Editor-In-Chief!

Re:WANTED: Editor! (2, Funny)

Anonymous Cowar (1608865) | more than 3 years ago | (#36352982)

I would like to review Anonymous Coward's review of the above movie review. It was well put together, but had line breaks at odd points. I wasn't expecting much from this review of the movie review, but this review of a review came through and delivered the critique I have come to expect from ACs here at /.

Re:WANTED: Editor! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36353216)

I give Anonymous Cowar (1608865)'s review of Anonymous Coward on Monday June 06, @01:53PM's review of CmdrTaco's review (from the it-lacks-blackpeople dept) two -1, Frosty Grits.

Re:WANTED: Editor! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36353226)

I give Anonymous Coward's review of Anonymous Cowar's review of Anyonymous Coward's review of CmdrTaco's review of X-Men:First Class two thumbs down for lack of Natalie Portman to go with those grits.

Re:WANTED: Editor! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36353716)

I will soon release a remake of my review, including a Natalie Portman and Jar Jar as soon as my beowulf cluster of Portmans returns from Soviet Russia where a GNAA and Goatse.cx symposium is attending IT! What can I say... I love my fans and aim to please. Also, the technology available when I crafted my first review did not allow me to correctly express my artistic vision, which originally included all those things (and a part where Anonymous Coward actually posts his review before CmdrTaco). Coming soon to a slashdot near you...

Re:WANTED: Editor! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36353234)

I would like to review Anonymous Coward's review of the above movie review. It was well put together, but had line breaks at odd points. I wasn't expecting much from this review of the movie review, but this review of a review came through and delivered the critique I have come to expect from ACs here at /.

its all part of the troll.

One glaring inconsistency: (2)

Random2 (1412773) | more than 3 years ago | (#36352930)

Havok isn't suppose to be in that time-line, at least not like that. But, no one pays attention to the details, right? Artistic liberty....

Re:One glaring inconsistency: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36353064)

You can actually see him on the television in the bar scene in X-2 before his transformation.

Re:One glaring inconsistency: (1)

metalgamer84 (1916754) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353556)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Havok_(comics)#Film [wikipedia.org] According to executive producer Bryan Singer, Havok will not be portrayed as Cyclops' brother in the film but somehow be related to him in a way that works for the film.

rogue. jean grey? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36352936)

You are not an X-Men fan.

The Lone gunmen are dead (1)

kervin (64171) | more than 3 years ago | (#36352984)

Nice to see there are no spoilers in the title. Taco you're come a long way baby.

Do what now? (1)

scumdamn (82357) | more than 3 years ago | (#36352992)

I guess they are supposed to been teenagers too.

Inconsistencies (2)

cozzbp (1845636) | more than 3 years ago | (#36352998)

A few strange things for me:
In X-Men Origins: Wolverine, it shows a non-handicapped, bald, older Xavier greeting the mutant children.
In X-Men 2, there are multiple references to how Magneto helped Xavier build Cerebro, hence why he was able to reconfigure it at the end to target humans instead of mutants.
Other than that, I thought it was overall a pretty good movie.

Re:Inconsistencies (1)

Kenja (541830) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353070)

Best to pretend that "X-Men Origins: Wolverine" never happened. Its in the same category as the Starwars XMas special.

Re:Inconsistencies (1)

Ironhandx (1762146) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353208)

Which is very sad. Overall I enjoyed it more than any of the 3 x-men movies, with possible exception of the second one.

Re:Inconsistencies (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36353646)

Little confused; did you like X-Men: First Class better than the other 3 X-Men movies, or did you like the Star Wars Christmas Special better than the 3 X-men movies? Because one statement says a lot more than the other one!

Re:Inconsistencies (1)

eclectus (209883) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353348)

There doesn't have to be an inconsistency with Cerebro. The Cerebro in First Class looks more like a first gen beta version. Magneto could have helped build the other one.

Re:Inconsistencies (1)

Culture20 (968837) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353612)

Xavier has been disabled and healed so many times in the comics. Savage Land, Secret War, recent Secret Invasion, etc. Likewise Beast has had relapses to humanity, and also used an image inducer, so the TV appearance isn't off. The cerebro thing is hard to reconcile though.

Re:Inconsistencies (1)

ildon (413912) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353932)

I think that while it is meant to generally be a prequel, they kind of purposefully ignored any continuity errors they would have created for the sake of their story. If you want to pretend there's a movie canon, I'd assume this movie takes precedence.

Although, from reading the comics, you should know that Professor X gains/loses the use of his legs back and forth every 6 months or so. That is when he's not in a coma or abducted by aliens.

Screwed up (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36353016)

And they screw some things up like paralyzing charles so early, because at the beginning of the 3rd xmen Prof. X isn't paralyzed but he is by the end of this movie.

Just a SMALL TASTE of what Taco's about (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36353024)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8ccSiH4olo [youtube.com]

"Magneto ROCKS!"

APK

P.S.=> I think it's going to be a good one personally!

... apk

An even BETTER one, here... apk (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36353196)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frcCCHb9LHc&NR=1 [youtube.com]

* Yes, I truly *THINK*, that I am going to love this one...

Also, lastly/again? MAGNETO ROCKS!

APK

P.S.=> Nice post CmdrTaco - I forgot about this one coming out, & tonite? I'll be "on it, like white on rice" @ the local mall!

... apk

"But the X-Men pantheon is huge,...." (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36353030)

Yep.

"Hey, we need a 'mutant' with some special power to give us a plot device!"

"Hmmmm, how about a "mutant" that can jack-off and shoot his load and blow up tanks?"

"Great idea! And how about a 'mutant" that can jerk herself off and cum and shake so much that Earthquakes happen!"

"Awesome! Now all we need is a 'mutant' that can shoot dildoes out of his fingers and get the cumming mutant off!"

"Great idea!"

X-Men is just ... cheap entertainment with no thought behind it. Just speaking as an Asimov, Heinlein, and other Sci-Fi masters fan.

Re:"But the X-Men pantheon is huge,...." (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36353310)

That's ok. Just watch all the other high brow stuff that's available in illiteratevision, like all the great Asimov, Heinlein, Haldeman adaptations... I guess you could watch 2001 over and over and over... have fun.

Contradictions with the previous films (1)

JoshuaZ (1134087) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353088)

There were some minor contradictions with the previous films. For example, in X-3 there's a flashback to Xavier and Magneto going to find Jean Grey and Xavier is already in a wheelchair. Also, the previous films didn't have any references to the apparently major Mystique/Xavier backstory they added in for this movie. Taco is incidentally very correct about how funny having the young Xavier hit on girls was- that was hilarious. Although, at least once he claimed that something was a mutation which probably wasn't; someone had two eyes of different colors. This was much more likely due to some form of mosacisim than a mutation. However, given how much X-Men abuses genetics this is comparatively minor.

Re:Contradictions with the previous films (1)

Kryptonian Jor-El (970056) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353266)

Xavier was not in a wheelchair when him and Eric went to meet Jean when she was a teen.

Re:Contradictions with the previous films (1)

andrewd18 (989408) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353370)

See, I just made the assumption that Bryan Singer said, "I wasn't involved in X-3 so I'm ignoring everything it did." Considering how awful I thought X-3 was, I was more than happy to accept that premise.

The Jean Grey thing may have been on purpose (1)

Benfea (1365845) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353424)

I've heard it argued that they deliberately created the Jean Grey discontinuity in order to nullify the third film. While this is a good dream, I have little faith in that explanation.

Re:Contradictions with the previous films (1)

ildon (413912) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353978)

He was just using that line to pick up chicks. He didn't care if something really was or wasn't a mutation.

expecting quality from the movie, you ask too much (5, Insightful)

jollyreaper (513215) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353132)

The problem is that the source material is pretty dire to begin with.

Comic books are the classic case of remembering things as better than they were. Any commercial entertainment is about making money but the good stuff can also fit art in there. Comics have always been about making money. Yes, you can get art in some of the short run books or occasionally some good runs on major titles but these characters are the bread and butter of the comic companies. This is a business. And you don't risk the franchise by taking risks. So you do boring, predictable storylines. You have giant crossover events that promise everything will change but the biggest constant is your continued disappointment at being jerked around.

I never had the money to get into comics but I've always been a scifi dork. The Battlestar Galactica I half-remembered from my youth is nothing like what actually aired. It was so much better. And Buck Rogers, I never remembered it being so tragically disco. And a lot of Trek is truly, spectacularly awful. My standards were increasing as TNG aired so I never properly appreciated the cringe factor of the early episodes until rewatching them.

It's possible to accidentally make a really good comic book movie. The first Iron Man was good and shouldn't have been. The producers admitted they spent more time on the visuals than the plot. All the best lines were ad-libbed by Downey. And the second one proved how big of a fluke the first one was by being as awful as it deserved to be.

The two Nolan Batman movies were better than we had any right to expect, especially given the direction the series had gone previously. I don't know what dark bargains were struck to keep studio intervention out of the process but damn, those were some good movies.

The problem with a comic book movie is a director's hands are going to be tied more often than not. The movie's getting made because a deal's been inked and there's money to be made. That's as opposed to the reverse of the process where producers are championing an idea and are selling it to the studio on the premise it'll make money. Sometimes the distinction's hard to see but it all boils down to a question of whether the director's doing it for the vision or the paycheck.

While the studio doesn't give a shit about anything other than making money, the real question is whether the creative team does. Witness "Pirates of the Caribbean: It's a Paycheck" or "Transformers 3: Michael Bay Needs Another Diamond-Encrusted Buttplug." You can't tell me anyone on those projects is is feeling the love. Contrast that with Lord of the Rings. Yeah, the studio couldn't give a shit about Tolkien or hobbits but they at least got out of the way of people who did. Then they fucked 'em on the percentage afterwards but at least not before the movies were made.

So yeah, X-Men. How could this have possibly been a good movie? Keep the dream alive because god knows it can't fend for itself.

Re:expecting quality from the movie, you ask too m (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36353778)

Your standards are increasing. That is a myth.

Your tastes are changing. That is the truth.

You don't like disco now. But had you loved disco now, and skin tight jump suits, you'd be a lot more forgiving to buck rogers.

So television and movies now, has a little fashion and music to suit your CURRENT tastes.

It also has somewhat more convincing special effects, I say somewhat, because more capable special effects usually means that movies have more improbably stupid shit in them.

In the end, it's still just entertainment. And none of it is particularly all that much better then the stuff in the past.

The hair splitting you are doing is differential in tastes. You remember that.

Cause 20 years from now, tastes will have changed a great deal, and all your favorites will once again look retarded. And you'll be dead.

Re:expecting quality from the movie, you ask too m (1)

dargaud (518470) | more than 3 years ago | (#36354072)

Do those continuous sequels, prequels, reboots and remakes still interest somebody ? What's it gonna be like in 50 years after the 12th Batman reboot ? There are plenty of books (comics or not) still worthy of being turned into a movie, why not work on those instead ?

Marvel Movie crap! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36353184)

the only good blockbuster comic book movies were Watchmen and Dark Knight. the entire marvel series has been crap. everything is way too cheesy and never meets the expectations of the comic. you never see any blood and the "good guy" always wins. i'll pass on wasting my life on these movies.

Re:Marvel Movie crap! (1)

Grizzley9 (1407005) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353366)

the only good blockbuster comic book movies were Watchmen and Dark Knight. .

Possibly. But in my opinion (and many others as well), both were highly overrated.

Who does this guy think he is? (5, Funny)

Zoide (601381) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353200)

Ugh! You know, it's not like this is your personal blog, Mr. "CmdrTaco" (whoever you are)...

Re:Who does this guy think he is? (1, Informative)

Bjrn (4836) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353436)

CmdrTaco is Rob Malda, one of the two founders of Slashdot.

Re:Who does this guy think he is? (2)

Zoide (601381) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353486)

I was of course, being sarcastic, but thanks anyway ;)

Re:Who does this guy think he is? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36353784)

Whoosh!

Re:Who does this guy think he is? (1)

zoloto (586738) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353488)

I'd +1 Funny you if I would ever get mod points (seriously, none in the last two-three years now?!)

Re:Who does this guy think he is? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36353776)

CmdrTaco, AKA commodore_taco, c64tacolove, and many related pseudonyms, is a notorious /. troll. Try to ignore him/her/it.

Best x-men so far (3, Insightful)

roc97007 (608802) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353214)

The first X-men movie seemed to be stiff and self-conscious. This is often the case in the first film of a franchise. What was unusual was that the second and third films were *more* stiff and self-conscious. Although there were enjoyable bits, overall the first film sorta worked as a "first film", the second mostly didn't work, and the third didn't work at all. I personally think this was due to an inexcusable overuse of Wolverine in what was supposed to be an ensemble cast. Feel free to disagree.

Parenthetically, why do "blockbuster" movie scripts suck so often? If "the last stand" had a tenth of the creativity and pathos of "god loves man kills" it would have been worth watching. As it is we got a bunch of set-piece battles and some big digital effects, but the rest was cliche even for a comic book.

Anyway, First Class had its problems (excellent dialog over here, really laughably bad dialog over there, like the writers were bipolar) (the change of Raven's appearance from appliances and body makeup to some kind of zip-up wetsuit) (Charles' inexplicably inept handling of his relationship with his adopted sister) but in general the story worked. It's the first x-men movie I've wanted to see twice.

Yeah, Alex was really Scott's younger brother, Sean was a contemporary of Charles, yadda yadda. We've had so many different versions of the story in the comics (I prefer "Ultimate x-men") that I can't see how we could complain that the backstory has changed again. The movies really only need to be self-consistent. And worth watching. The last one wasn't. This one was.

Re:Best x-men so far (1)

helix2301 (1105613) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353422)

I agree First Class did have it's problems but over all I though was a good movie as well. Was nice to see the en fences of the movie on Professor X and Magneto and rather then on Wolverine. I also like the use of the different characters and a prequel rather then a sequel. This movie was worth going to see.

Excitment but.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36353268)

Someone, please tell me why we are seeing a movie promo on slashdot?

1st line here, says it ALL... apk (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36353406)

Because we nerds LOVE THIS STUFF is why, much like Star Trek & such!

APK

P.S.=> Hey - I read this stuff as a boy, 1970-1980 & loved it... Marvel's Avengers, Fantastic Four, & yes, X-Men sort of really "inspired me" to TRY to be a better person, & to try to change the world for the better when & where I could in fact over time (mainly lately, vs. idiots like malware makers out there trying to rip you off & otherwise harm you personally).

Comics also directly helped me as a child too, in aiding myself as a builder of my vocabulary & reading skills hugely in fact! I liked reading them, nobody had to "force-feed" them down my throat in other words (My Father brought home an "Incredible HULK" comic for me, & the rest? History!)... best thing you can do for a child imo, is to get them reading! It pays off in this life...

(For myself @ that early time even, & enough so that I was a national spelling bee contestant, just because I remembered "big words" I read in comics quite often (especially from the likes of say, Reed Richards of the FF!))

Next thing I know? Hey - They're making hit films from said material!

That's a statement in & of itself I feel... I must not have been alone in it!

...apk

Category Error (0)

TemperedAlchemist (2045966) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353294)

What is this doing on Slashdot.

why did you bother writing this ??? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36353308)

I refuse to read a review by someone who didn't even realise this film was set in the 60s. You fucking retard. Did you even see the trailer ? "Cuban Missile Crisis" ??!!! You TWAT

Not bad! (1)

Spellvexit (1039042) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353312)

I read a lot of old school X-Men comic books growing up, and while there were plenty of inconsistencies both when measured against the X-Men canon and even internally, I found that the overall excellent writing and clever use of mutant powers won me over. This movie was a lot more subtle than its predecessors, from the 60's touches to the stronger focus on the characters, and I appreciated that.

They made some weird choices for characters. I don't know if Darwin even has a precedent (probably not, given his character's treatment), but who was the guy who blew the tornadoes? Azazel [wikipedia.org] was also an odd choice. He doesn't really belong in the Hellfire club, from what I can tell, though he does set up Nightcrawler fairly well.

Spoiler (and an example of internal inconsistency) -- what the devil happened to all of that energy Shaw sucked out of the submarine? I felt his powers were somewhat poorly defined to begin with, but when you suck a nuclear submarine's batteries dry, doesn't that energy go *somewhere*? I suppose it could be explained away in one way or another, but it would have made a lot more sense if there were an explosion or some other kind of awesome manifestation of the power he ate.

Re:Not bad! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36354050)

RE: Shaw and the energy sucking.

How was he able to magically hold onto the rods (with his "psalms" --captcha)when the submarine was doing the barrel rolls?

Until Marvel Regains Control... (1)

fallen1 (230220) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353394)

None of the movies that are in the hands of Sony/Columbia/Etc. are going to get the treatment they deserve. The X-Men's first class was Marvel Girl (aka Jean Grey), Cyclops, Iceman, Beast, and Angel. Period.

Spider-Man and other super-hero movies do not need two or three villains to tell a good story. Let me repeat this - they DO NOT NEED TWO OR THREE VILLAINS. One main villain (or group of villains - Hydra, The Hand, and such are OK) and some good character development on both sides and BAM! instant summer success. Add in special effects to compliment and enhance the story, not to tell the story because your writers suck.

So, until said studios lose their rights to those properties and they get a proper treatment MAKE MINE MARVEL!

Re:Until Marvel Regains Control... (1)

kimvette (919543) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353704)

None of the movies that are in the hands of Sony/Columbia/Etc. are going to get the treatment they deserve.

Maybe so. I really enjoyed Spiderman and Spiderman 2 though; I think Tobey Maguire was cast perfectly as Peter Parker. I mean, Peter Parker is a nerdy person but happened to have a decent physique. Tobey Maguire had a bit of a nerdy look, and with working out he had a nice physique, between his nerdy-yet-fit appearance and the mild persona he always seems to have, he was the perfect Spider Man.

I don't like the idea of the upcoming reboot; I would rather they pretend Spiderman 3 was never made. The problem with Spiderman 3 wasn't the casting; it was in the writing. They had far too much going on for even a two hour and twenty minute movie for the story to feel anything but rushed, the plot full of holes, and character development and suspense all too shallow. It seems with the recasting they are punishing the wrong people; it's exactly like shooting the messenger because they didn't like what the author wrote. I'd rather see them continue with Maguire, Dunst, and Franco continuing their roles, with only one major villain. It would be fine if there were subplots going on, such as Franco's multiple personality disorder phasing in and out so that Goblin and Spidey have a couple of minor altercations, but Osborne and Parker still struggle to maintain their relationship. It would be more fitting to the schizm Osborne had which ultimately leads him to becoming a super villain with an axe to grind, and would be better character development of which the franchise is far more deserving.

Let us regard Spiderman 3 as the new Highlander II. ;)

Re:Until Marvel Regains Control... (1)

MattW (97290) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353962)

Spiderman 3 was nowhere near as bad as Highlander II. Spiderman 3 was disappointing, disjointed... Highlander II was *epically* bad. Like Plan 9 bad.

Re:Until Marvel Regains Control... (5, Interesting)

Zironic (1112127) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353756)

Maybe this comes as a shock to you, but Marvel does have creative control over their movies ever since they made their own Movie Studio back in 1996 and have been making their own movies ever since 2000 (Distribution being handled by Fox).

So it's not that the evil movie studios are ruining Marvels honest attempts at making faithful comic book movies, it's that Marvel doesn't give a shit about doing faithful comic book movies as much as they care about making movies that people actually want to see.

Almost all the movies they've done since opening the Marvel Studio have been blockbuster successes which tells you that they're pretty good at what they're doing.

MFW... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36353584)

Movie reviews on Slashdot.

Wtf man? And it is not even Star Wars.

Jean Grey and Wolverine and Rogue (5, Informative)

c0d3g33k (102699) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353624)

to me *are* the X-Men

Silly movie fanboy! Jean Grey is the only one of those three that qualifies as an original X-person (along with Cyclops, Beast, Angel and Iceman). Wolverine was originally a throwaway character in an otherwise forgettable Incredible Hulk issue and Rogue was a third-rate villain in an Avenger's Annual (number 10). Wolverine at least has the distinction of being a member of the team that launched the title to fame (starting with Giant-Sized X-Men #1 and Uncanny X-Men 97), so he's got some credibility. But Rogue? Meh.

Kids these days! No appreciation for history.

First time X-Men viewer (1)

hansamurai (907719) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353660)

I saw this not having seen any of the previous X-Men movies and enjoyed it, found the story between Xavier and Magneto pretty engaging and liked the actors. There was a lot intentional(?) camp though and this has to be the first movie ever where I laughed out loud during a Nazi concentration camp scene. Multiple times.

January Jones is a seriously awful actor though. I guess the Mad Men writers are really good at hiding that, more props to them.

I went with someone who was at least familiar with the other movies and some of the comics, and it was cool asking him "so this guy with the chest laser is going to turn into the guy with the eye laser?"

I Loved It! (1)

Ferretman (224859) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353680)

Five out of five...well done all around.

I learned I loved 60's films (1)

Maxo-Texas (864189) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353720)

I know women wear smaller bikini's these days but masses of women in lingerie must have been nice to live with while the sexual revolution was in full bloom and women had not yet become equal.

The film was enjoyably sexist (as a male fantasy). Perhaps from Mad Men ? (which I haven't watched).

I think this is the 2nd or 3rd reboot of continuity now. They don't toss everything out but they do drop big chunks. Clearly Xavier and Magneto are NOT children of the atom due to the new Retcon to their origins being well before the first A-Bombs dropped.

I found the "gay and proud" to be jarring and heavy handed. And a bit cliched. And a bit "90's"/early "00's" when it was cooler. Or perhaps just no delivered well by the actors and shoehorned in to scenes. The "don't ask don't tell" reference was better delivered and flowed better.

I thought the death scene was pretty damn "Phantasm" horror movie terrible and implicitly Xavier helped since he could have released control of Shaw and chose to scream instead.

It was a bit sad to see all the familiar X-Men youthified. I remember Rogue deaging from a competent mid 30's adult to a 20 year old not legal to drink character. I was also said that professor X got the chair in this film. It would have been nice to have that happen in a second or third film. And it violates canon (which showed him bald and young walking around the middle east and fighting a powerful psionic there).

I remember the original shaw having different powers ( mind control?) and being more sean connery like in appearance.

I severely disliked the VTOL blackbird. I liked the 'stunt character' drop ins (storm, wolverine) but disliked the John Saxon (and the guy from Roswell/Bones) on the ship. Saxon was fine in Starship Troopers but out of place here. An anonymous actor would have been better here.

Overall I would say it was a "1st class" movie-- just don't think about it too much.

And loved Moira in lingerie. Even tho it covered more than a bikini which might stir any interest at all.

Re:I learned I loved 60's films (1)

MattW (97290) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353944)

The comic-book shaw I remember as having exactly that power (kinetic absorption). Or am I confusing him the return-of-the-Hellfire club story line where Emma is sneaking off? (Which I think was one of the Whedon arcs)

I remember him as being more of a mutton-chop guy than a sideburns type like Bacon, but I think Bacon nails the mannerism and the look otherwise.

My favorite yet (1)

MattW (97290) | more than 3 years ago | (#36353894)

I quite liked it. Rivals the original (#1) as my favorite. Would definitely see a sequel.

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