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Three Arrested For Sony/Egypt Hacks

Soulskill posted more than 3 years ago | from the enjoy-the-backlash dept.

Crime 119

jimmij0770 writes "Three people accused of being behind cyberattacks on the Sony PlayStation store, the Egyptian government and other targets have been arrested in Spain. Quoting: 'Spanish National Police announced the arrests Friday in a statement that alleged the three in custody are leaders of the Spanish section of Anonymous, a loose-knit international activist group that has claimed attacks on companies such as Visa and MasterCard and on government websites. At least one spokesperson for the group had denied responsibility for the attacks on Sony through its AnonOps blog. ... The statement said police began their investigation in October 2010 following a complaint of a denial of service attack on Spain's Ministry of Culture. They analyzed more than two million lines of chat logs and web pages used by the hackers in order to find the three people who were arrested.'"

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organizational lol (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36403246)

>>'Spanish National Police announced the arrests Friday in a statement that alleged the three in custody are leaders of the Spanish section of Anonymous...' >>'...the three in custody are leaders of the Spanish section of Anonymous...' >>'...leaders of the Spanish section of Anonymous...' lol. freaking morons. So long as they can make "Anonymous" out to be an "organization," they can "fight" it. wonderful how far violence gets people toward solving problems.

hehe (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36403302)

silly cops i am the leader duh

Re:hehe (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36403684)

Lol party van comes for you now!
-Teh Cops

Re:hehe (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36403930)

lol i use 7 proxies so the party van haz to get 4 moar mah proxies.

Re:hehe (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36405722)

stupid pigs
u can't catch me, i'm on a boat

Re:hehe (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36404112)

Disregard that, I suck cocks.

Idiots (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36403306)

I wish the media would hurry up and realize how stupid they sound saying "leaders of anonymous."

Re:Idiots (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36403412)

What's stupid is continuing to pretend "Anonymous" is really just a few unconnected anonymous individuals working independently.

Re:Idiots (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36403598)

Wait...you can't be serious. You're "Anonymous Coward," also. Are you saying we're not independent? Because I totally have a completely independent view from you.

Re:Idiots (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36403720)

Fine, you've proven your point. What's really stupid is pretending not to understand the difference between the term anonymous and the group Anonymous. I guess it's understandable though, I mean just the other day my friend said he was going to eat an apple and I wondered why someone would want to consume a computer.

Re:Idiots (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36403754)

Also, cocks

Re:Idiots (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36405508)

Just because law enforcement doesn't know how else to classify it doesn't make it an actual group. It's difficult to show hierarchy in a peer network - just ask the MPAA/RIAA/DHS :p

Re:Idiots (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36405558)

Wait...you can't be serious. You're "Anonymous Coward," also. Are you saying we're not independent? Because I totally have a completely independent view from you.

Wow, what are the chances that we both named our group Anonymous? What's you luggage combination?

Re:Idiots (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36403670)

What's stupid is continuing to pretend "Anonymous" is really just a few unconnected anonymous individuals working independently.

You can't speak for Anonymous! Only I can!

Re:Idiots (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36403788)

Are you seriously suggesting that Anonymous is some sort of organized collective of individuals, whom actually have a legitimate chain of command?

Because that is a delusion.

Re:Idiots (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36404152)

organized collective of individuals

this is inarguably the case. Or do they not interact with one another at all? Any form of communication going on between individuals requires some sort of organization.

actually have a legitimate chain of command

Where did you get 'legitimate' from? Loose knit, illegitimate chains of command still work great. See, case in point, Anonymous.

Re:Idiots (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36405808)

Replying to the one below:
You're really conjuring up doublespeak to fit the definitions in your head there, compadre.

When imbeciles like you pop up from time to time, Anon like me pop up. The only communication therein is with you, and that's to inform you of how ridiculous you sound.

Circular definitions are as fale as the governments that invented them.

They mean IRC chanops (5, Informative)

marcansoft (727665) | more than 3 years ago | (#36403602)

That's basically what makes them "leaders of Anonymous", according to the police. Supposedly one of them ran an IRC server at home and the three were IRC operators. That's all. There's even a hilarious police screenshot [yfrog.com] featuring an IRC client and three huge red arrows. Because everyone knows that huge red arrows means they're the Bad Guys.

They're blaming some of the playstation store DDoS attacks on them (which Anonymous did take responsibility for), as well as DDoSing the SGAE (spanish RIAA) and some government websites as a response to recent legislation and social unrest. None of this has nothing to do with the PSN breach, it was just the usual Anonymous DDoS modus operandi.

New IRC server up in three, two, ... oh, wait, they probably set one up within minutes, certainly before Slashdot managed to pick up the story.

All of this seems to be a useless operation just so they can claim that they got *someone* for some of the DDoS attacks on government sites. Even the police knows this isn't going to stop anything, they're just making it look like some big breakthrough to appease the "victims" of the attacks.

They're charging them with a violation that could get them one to three years in prison. So, for now they're free (you don't get preventative imprisonment for that kind of charge), and I'd say there's a pretty good chance they'll end up dropping the charges due to lack of evidence.

Re:They mean IRC chanops (1)

ShaunC (203807) | more than 3 years ago | (#36403766)

Interesting, I wonder if they've paid for that copy of mIRC.

Re:They mean IRC chanops (1)

marcansoft (727665) | more than 3 years ago | (#36403992)

Judging by the uTorrent icon, my guess is they didn't.

Re:They mean IRC chanops (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36404034)

And utorrent can only be used for piracy?

Idiot.

Re:They mean IRC chanops (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36404498)

Congratulations. It seems you understand what is necessary to create a straw man argument.

Re:They mean IRC chanops (1)

Bill_the_Engineer (772575) | more than 3 years ago | (#36403804)

Because everyone knows that huge red arrows means they're the Bad Guys.

I have been conditioned to believe that huge red arrow means a hunter is trying to kill the person under it.... :P

Re:They mean IRC chanops (1)

FatherOfONe (515801) | more than 3 years ago | (#36403856)

They're charging them with a violation that could get them one to three years in prison. So, for now they're free (you don't get preventative imprisonment for that kind of charge), and I'd say there's a pretty good chance they'll end up dropping the charges due to lack of evidence.

Or they will go to prison and get ass raped. I know I wouldn't be sleeping well at night...

Re:They mean IRC chanops (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36404546)

Don't take it the wrong way, (pun intended)
They may get ass raped. but then the person that ass raped them, and their family/friends will all suffer the irreversable social damage that hackers are known to cause. Friends and family, may never forgive you for having their entire social life destroyed. Im just saying.

Re:They mean IRC chanops (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36405334)

Don't take it the wrong way, (pun intended)
They may get ass raped. but then the person that ass raped them, and their family/friends will all suffer the irreversable social damage that hackers are known to cause. Friends and family, may never forgive you for having their entire social life destroyed. Im just saying.

You'd mess with the friends and family of a person who ass rapes other people in prison? What do you suppose that person who ass rapes other people in prison might do in response? You know what I think he might do in response? I think he might track down the friends and family of the person he ass raped in prison and rape all of them in the ass too!

Re:They mean IRC chanops (1)

pjt33 (739471) | more than 3 years ago | (#36404826)

Spain is a civilised country. The Inquisition has moved to the USA.

Re:They mean IRC chanops (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36405788)

Is there widespread ass raping going on in prisons in Spain? And is it really so prevalent in the US as casual discourse on the Internet would lead one to believe?

If so, it's disgrace. If so, you really should do something about the problem.

Re:They mean IRC chanops (2)

RdeCourtney (2034578) | more than 3 years ago | (#36403964)

So they show: http://a.yfrog.com/img614/4012/cg4eai.jpg [yfrog.com] and then they're running Tor and uTorrent, I wonder what Torrents they're downloading whilst using Paint to put in big red arrows on an IRC chat? I wonder what the burning coliseum icon is?

Re:They mean IRC chanops (1)

marcansoft (727665) | more than 3 years ago | (#36404160)

The coliseum icon is Nero Burning ROM.

I wouldn't be surprised one bit if they warezed mIRC.

picture with arrows not enough (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36405094)

There also needs paragraph on the back of each one explain how it is to be used as evidence against them.

Re:They mean IRC chanops (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36405146)

The DDoS was a retaliation for Sony accusing "Anonymous" of the Playstation Network breach. It's really quite hilarious that the authorities haven't picked up on that. Anonymous has never been in the business of trading credit card numbers and the like, and they probably never will be. They just have a couple ideas regarding "justice," usually involving defending kids that they think were bullied (or cats.. don't post pictures of a cat you harmed on /b/). If you target them, they think that you're bullying them (historically, this has been true) and they issue a retaliation.

It's really unfortunate that these kids are going to get in so much trouble over this, because the whole business is as simple as downloading a program called LOIC and sticking the addresses that you're instructed to into it. In fact, the Anonymous attacks wouldn't work unless THOUSANDS of kids were doing this, because they don't maintain botnets, spread viruses, or do any of the things that the real professionals, the people that the police should (maybe) be going after do.

Re:They mean IRC chanops (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36405474)

I'm pretty sure the authorities are aware of quite a few things and I am not talking about the Spanish police. For some reason the hacking community likes to assume that the real expert programmers are on "their" side and operate under the same set of free wheeling techy principles. However, there are quite a few experts who will gladly apply their skillset for any government or agency willing to pay them enough money and governments are willing to pay very well these days. And please don't use the "kids will be kids" excuse and write off these attacks as just good ole harmless fun because it is not. You say the perpetrators are not using any stolen information for criminal purposes but how do you know? Just because they say the don't? These morons are giving governments around the world all the ammunition they need to start regulating and censoring the internet on a much grander and intrusive scale than today.

Re:Idiots (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36403626)

But they never said that. They said leaders of the "Spanish section" of Anonymous.
You are just skipping out words you don't want to read for... whatever weird reason you have.

They could very well be leaders of a group of Anonymous activists from Spain.
They might even go after the lesser members at some point too, but you always take the leaders out to destroy most things.

There are very obvious signs of leadership in most loose groups. That includes Anonymous.
Most likely that most commands of attack are given out by a very small number of vocal people who actually give a shit about this stuff and are good at making people want to give a damn since most of the time people who request attacks on imageboards are told to GTFO, or NYPA'd (Not Your Personal Army) to "Purgedom". (and occasionally banned)
These are traditional leaders by any definition. It doesn't even require stretching the term.

Re:Idiots (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36404536)

But they never said that. They said leaders of the "Spanish section" of Anonymous.

Actually, there hasn't been a "Spanish section" of Anonymous ever since the Central Office's vice president assaulted the head of the Spanish section (known locally as the "Unión Española de Hackers Anónimos") during the fourth annual International Gathering of Anonymous Persons (IGOAP), and stole his girlfriend. The group that was once the Spanish section is now an independent collective with no official ties to Anonymous and is now known as the "Unión Independiente de Hackers Anónimos de España"). Needless to say, the Central Office's president is very angry over this and has fired his VP. I hear they are currently hiring.

Re:Idiots (1)

DrXym (126579) | more than 3 years ago | (#36403746)

I wish the media would hurry up and realize how stupid they sound saying "leaders of anonymous."

Someone holds the keys and coordinates attacks. Pretending that there is no one in the middle absurd. Pretending that there isn't an inner circle of occasional participants is doubly absurd. It may well be that the further out you go the more amorphous things become (i.e. all the morons volunteering to run LOIC) but there is definitely people in the middle who could be classified as and are ringleaders.

Re:Idiots (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36404000)

OK, What is your name? We'll use that one..

Re:Idiots (1)

mortonda (5175) | more than 3 years ago | (#36405502)

I'm waiting for a round of Sparticus-like "I'm the leader of anonymous!"

Re:Idiots (1)

Duradin (1261418) | more than 3 years ago | (#36405672)

The Appian way is in need of some new decorations...

False arrest story or Acquittal story next? (1)

erroneus (253617) | more than 3 years ago | (#36403366)

I get this sinking feeling that the three will be released due to insufficient evidence. But then again, this is the Spanish inquisition... nobody expects the Spanish inquisition.

Re:False arrest story or Acquittal story next? (1)

Bloodwine77 (913355) | more than 3 years ago | (#36403616)

The fact that one of them ran an IRC server involved in coordination of attacks out of his home I'd say at least one of the three arrested isn't very bright and I wouldn't be surprised if at least one of them goes to jail.

Re:False arrest story or Acquittal story next? (1)

marcansoft (727665) | more than 3 years ago | (#36403634)

They're already free - the charges they're pushing aren't enough to warrant preventative imprisonment.

You must be an American... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36403978)

In most other parts of the world, you're assumed to be guilty until proven innocent. Yes, the world is not entirely composed of just America.

Re:You must be an American... (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 3 years ago | (#36404258)

Most? I don't think a majority of countries have such laws.

Leader of Anon (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36403396)

is the Higgs boson!

Sloppiness by the Egypt hackers did them in (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36403416)

They were behind six proxies instead of seven, otherwise they wouldn't have been caught.

You're EDITORS so EDIT! (4, Insightful)

Wannabe Code Monkey (638617) | more than 3 years ago | (#36403418)

Three people accused of being behind cyberattacks on the Sony PlayStation store, the Egyptian government and other targets have been arrested in Spain.

Really? Three people, along with the Egyptian government and other targets have been arrested in Spain? What was the Egyptian government doing in Spain? Was is on a vacation? That must have made quite the arrest.

Hint, this would have been much clearer:

Three people have been arrested in Spain for cyberattacks targeting the Sony PlayStation store, the Egyptian government, and others.

Re:You're EDITORS so EDIT! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36403446)

Even worse is the fact that TFA reads "Accused not involved in April PlayStation Network intrusion".

mod parent up (1)

godrik (1287354) | more than 3 years ago | (#36403452)

fixing summary +5000

editor -5000

video (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36403422)

surreal speech from the spanish police about the operation: http://www.rtve.es/noticias/20110610/anonymous-va-seguir-pero-hemos-desmantelado-principal-servidor-espana/438788.shtml they compare anonymouse with al qaeda.. and they justify the sophisticated skills of the hackers with arguments like "they use wifi networks".. it looks like a monty python film..

Re:video (3, Informative)

rbollinger (1922546) | more than 3 years ago | (#36403612)

Is there more in the video that's not in the article? Because your comment is a way off:

Aunque las acciones llevadas a cabo en la red pudieran "parecer trastadas", considera Vázquez, constituyen un auténtico "peligro". No en vano, "la OTAN considera estos 'ciberataques' una verdadera amenaza junto con Al Qaeda", recuerda el comisario de la BIT.

Google Translated:

Although the actions undertaken in the network would " seem pranks "believes Vazquez, are a real "danger" . Not surprisingly, "NATO considers this 'cyber' a real threat along with Al Qaeda," says the curator of the BIT.

Basically it says NATO considers cyber attacks to be a real threat, just like Al Qaeda is a real threat. I don't see the Spanish Police saying anything that equates these hackers to AQ.

Re:video (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36403874)

in the video the police repeat +-3 times the same: "NATO says that anonymouse are as dangerous as al qaeda, so they are dangerous" my comment was about the stupid speech of the police about the operation because it looks like they have beat the most dangerous terrorists in the world.. sorry about my low english skills.. have a nice weekend

"...leaders of the Spanish section..." (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36403424)

Saying they're the "leaders" of the Spanish "section" of Anonymous is like me calling myself the "leader" of the "Anonymous Coward" section of Anonymous: a complete non sequitur.

Re:"...leaders of the Spanish section..." (1)

smelch (1988698) | more than 3 years ago | (#36403768)

Article: "Bert Nerdwell, a leader of biological research, suggests terraforming moon possible"
Slashdot Douches: "When will the media learn that calling somebody a leader of biological research makes about as much sense as saying I'm the leader of people who wear blue?"

I've said it a billion times it feels like, so mod this redundant: The people who are focused on the terms used to describe the people that are actually coordinating and implementing and participating in attacks are retards. If they can say they are anonymous, we can call them anonymous. Of all the people calling themselves anonymous, these are the leaders in being anonymous as they do the most anonymous-like stuff and coordinate people who also call themselves anonymous. Why is that so hard to get through your thick skulls?

I'm being trolled here, right? And all these "anonymous isn't a group" type postings is just a meme that I'm unaware of? Please tell me people aren't really this dumb. If I refer to somebody as a Christian leader, or a Islamic leader or a * leader it does not mean that I think Christian is a monolithic organization and all of us take orders from the top. Do you think the world is unfamiliar with classifications of people (groupings if you will) that lack top down leadership? Hippies, communists, capitalists, conservatives, liberals, bloggers, industrialists, terrorists, the KKK - you can refer to people as leaders of any of those groups without implying a top-down organization that encompasses all of them. How f*cking stupid can people get about this? You aren't clever, this is another case of "[mundane concept] ON THE INTERNET!"

Re:"...leaders of the Spanish section..." (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 3 years ago | (#36404356)

I'm being trolled here, right? And all these "anonymous isn't a group" type postings is just a meme that I'm unaware of?

Nope, real thing.

If I refer to somebody as a Christian leader, or a Islamic leader or a * leader it does not mean that I think Christian is a monolithic organization and all of us take orders from the top. Do you think the world is unfamiliar with classifications of people (groupings if you will) that lack top down leadership?

Well first, if someone called the leader of the "God hates Fags" idiots the Leader of the American Division of Christianity, would that be very accurate? Now let's say that guy's position was changed every time they got together, almost at random, with some random dude who had speaking skills volunteering to be the pastor. Wouldn't that make it hilariously inaccurate?

i wonder.... (1)

metalmaster (1005171) | more than 3 years ago | (#36403460)

I know that the script kiddie running the application on his PC is just as guilty as the author of the tool, but wouldnt it be wiser to to find the one(dev or dev team) who commands the horde(script kiddie collective)?

An arrest is an arrest i guess. As long as law enforcement has something they'll run with it.

Re:i wonder.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36403544)

Ya, good luck with that. It took how many security people just to track down a monkey pushing a button?

Re:i wonder.... (1)

Bloodwine77 (913355) | more than 3 years ago | (#36403584)

Isn't LOIC one of the preferred tools of Anonymous? It shouldn't be that difficult to track down the developers. The project has both SourceForge and Github accounts.

Re:i wonder.... (1)

Bloodwine77 (913355) | more than 3 years ago | (#36403658)

I hate that I cannot edit comments. I'm not saying that the developers of LOIC are involved with Anonymous, but your suggestion was to take down the tools. Granted, you could argue that the tools in of themselves aren't illegal. I could see a tool like LOIC being used for DDoS and security testing of your own network.

Re:i wonder.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36403664)

Whats wrong with LOIC that isnt wrong with wget? Are you suggesting its illegal to write a program that makes HTTP requests?

Re:i wonder.... (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 3 years ago | (#36404460)

Exactly. Write a shellscript to do aggressive rapid-fire wgets, and OH NOES YOU MAED A DDOS TOOL!

Re:i wonder.... (2)

Cogita (1119237) | more than 3 years ago | (#36403678)

Isn't LOIC one of the preferred tools of Anonymous? It shouldn't be that difficult to track down the developers. The project has both SourceForge and Github accounts.

Isn't it a valid tool for stress testing websites developed by several individuals collectively? Sounds like you want to blame the creator of dynamite because some people use it to blow up bridges. Just because a tool can be used for a wrong purpose doesn't mean we blame the maker. Blame those who use it that way.

Re:i wonder.... (1)

an unsound mind (1419599) | more than 3 years ago | (#36403960)

Are you saying we'll get another set of Nobel Awards if we run horrible articles on the author of LOIC? </completelymissingthepoint>

Re:i wonder.... (1)

metalmaster (1005171) | more than 3 years ago | (#36404450)

I guess I am missing the point. I was under the impression that they modified their tools to suit the needs of a particular attack

False summary and article (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36403518)

Anonymous has no leaders, just anons. That's because it's not a group, it's just anons. Also, expect retaliation against policia.es.

Huh.. (4, Insightful)

laxguy (1179231) | more than 3 years ago | (#36403538)

Why is it that no one is discussing the article, or the implications of the arrests.. everyone is commenting on how you can't name the leader of Anonymous..

Just because you think you know what Anonymous is, doesn't mean that everyone else does.. it's easier to say there is a "leader" than to explain what it really is..not to mention that fact that they are doing this to themselves. When they start releasing statements and using Twitter and shit, someone is in charge of those things, hence the "leader" tag.

Lets try talking about the article instead of pretending we're cool enough to know how Anonymous works.

Re:Huh.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36403610)

It's just another stupid hacking group like the rest. They all have a leader in some way, shape or form to keep the minions in control. Once the evidence comes down on them and there's real jail time they'll spill the names of everyone involved for a plea bargain. That's how it always works.

Re:Huh.. (1)

laxguy (1179231) | more than 3 years ago | (#36404180)

Thank you. I would mod this up if I could.

Re:Huh.. (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 3 years ago | (#36404516)

Once the evidence comes down on them and there's real jail time they'll spill the names of everyone involved for a plea bargain. That's how it always works.

LMFAO!!!! XD

I'm picturing you as a grizzled old cop sipping coffee on his desk right now, who isn't too good with these computer things, but knows how criminals operate.

Re:Huh.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36404800)

It's fairly obvious that he knows more about anonymous than you do.

It's a delusion to think that there isn't a hierarchy.

Re:Huh.. (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 3 years ago | (#36404844)

I see you GP.

Yeah there's a hierarchy. A mostly transient, entirely fungible one.

Re:Huh.. (1)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#36403926)

It's a valid argument.

Anonymous doesn't have "a leader". It has a communications trope, and the "leader" of any particular act taken in its name is whoever gets the ball rolling within that trope and causes those taking action to choose to attribute it to Anonymous.

Anonymous also doesn't really have "a future". Anonymity on the Internet isn't real. It's more like obscurity than anonymity. You can be tracked and located, and that's getting easier. Obscurity, however, only really works if you don't put a flashing light on your head. Which is the opposite of what participants in Anonymous' exploits do. So in order for Anonymous to survive, it needs to (a) start an internet that isn't traceable, or (b) stop doing things that draw attention to itself. Either of which means it no longer exists, becuase (a) they'll be the only ones on their private network and (b) if they don't do anything they stop existing.

And then /. will get back its crown as the most powerful generator of DDoSes in the two universes.

Re:Huh.. (1)

esocid (946821) | more than 3 years ago | (#36404054)

From my point of view, everyone is discussing the article. Yes, I did RTFA. They stated the three arrested are "leaders of the Spanish section of anonymous." Just because certain people are more active than others doesn't make them leaders. This is just another "tubes" moment where governments have no idea about what goes on in the technological world. The article also stated that no charges have been made, which leads me to believe that this was an order from somewhere high, because someone isn't happy, and wanted to send a message.

The thing with anonymous organizations is that anyone can claim to be in them, create twitter groups, and send out "press releases." Everyone is on topic because the topic is the targeting of the "leadership" of anonymous, in this case the Spanish section, whatever that means.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

Re:Huh.. (1)

laxguy (1179231) | more than 3 years ago | (#36404158)

From my point of view, everyone is discussing the article. Yes, I did RTFA. They stated the three arrested are "leaders of the Spanish section of anonymous." Just because certain people are more active than others doesn't make them leaders. This is just another "tubes" moment where governments have no idea about what goes on in the technological world. The article also stated that no charges have been made, which leads me to believe that this was an order from somewhere high, because someone isn't happy, and wanted to send a message. The thing with anonymous organizations is that anyone can claim to be in them, create twitter groups, and send out "press releases." Everyone is on topic because the topic is the targeting of the "leadership" of anonymous, in this case the Spanish section, whatever that means. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

If they're more active than others it seems reasonable to think they could be the leaders of the attack.. since you know.. they're doing it..
I feel as though everyone is nit-picking the article over it's wording when it was created by someone not necessarily "in the loop" on the terms of the internet, I don't think you can really hold that against them. They arrested three people that were Spanish and actively taking part in Anonymous's action. Why wouldn't you call it the Spanish section of anonymous? It's a bunch of Spanish guys that live in Spain that are part of Anonymous.. seems like a Spanish part of Anonymous to me..

Re:Huh.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36404650)

Because the 3 guys were nothing more than sysops, the IRC equivalent of chat room moderators/the real world equivalent of volunteer police officers.

By that logic, we should arrest moot (owner/creator of 4chan) since hes a sysops of the Anonymous group as well.

Re:Huh.. (1)

ArundelCastle (1581543) | more than 3 years ago | (#36404086)

I appreciate your point, but do realize that comments telling the /. editors how to correct submission grammar also get modded +4 Insightful. (#36403418)
Grammar nazis are nerds too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4vf8N6GpdM [youtube.com]

Or maybe you've drunk the kool-aid (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36405390)

The fact that a group's members are anonymous doesn't necessarily imply that they are leaderless.

The fact that a group claims to be leaderless doesn't necessarily imply that it is leaderless.

'Anonymous' had no formal leadership but I refuse to believe there aren't members who initiate actions and push the various vendettas along. The guy who writes the script-kiddie program, the guy who makes the poster calling people to action, the guy who convinces others to join in a campaign. These people are leaders, even if they are informal leaders.

I'll also take this opportunity to point out that the actions of Anonymous very quickly became indefensible. Attacking Sony is one thing, attacking Sony's users is another. Opposing the punishment of Bradley Manning is one thing, defacing PBS's website is another (any a very clear and very reprehensible attempt to stifle freedom of speech).

In short, Anonymous has no formal leaders, but they have informal leaders. And I support the punishment of all people who join in their free-speech chilling, innocents-attacking campaigns.

Posted AC for lulz and out of fear.

The propaganda has begun (2)

mykos (1627575) | more than 3 years ago | (#36403540)

A few scapegoats who may not even be connected to the actual hackers are going to prison because governments want appear to be capable of capturing them.

Re:The propaganda has begun (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36403576)

Just be happy that they aren't going to execute them.

Re:The propaganda has begun (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36404386)

Oh, what ever dude. If you play with fire you are going to get burned. As far as I am concerned these three should receive a public beating for being D-Bags and sent on their way

Re:The propaganda has begun (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36405132)

I'd be careful what you incite, given how you're posting.... are you sure that you aren't next in line? If I fly to Spain and attack these guys, wouldn't that make you a "leader of the American/Slashdot/whatever section of Anonymous", commanding me, your willing minion?

{Interesting... this is the first time I'd have preferred to post non-anonymously but had to post anonymously to make my point!}
 
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Re:The propaganda has begun (1)

chemicaldave (1776600) | more than 3 years ago | (#36405170)

Who said they're going to prison. It's Spain, not China, and while I don't know the Spanish legal system, I assume they adhere to principles like presumption of innocence. This will all get sorted out in court and will only prove how much the police and media are ignorant of the subject matter.

The Usual Suspects (1)

ThatsNotPudding (1045640) | more than 3 years ago | (#36403560)

Countries doing the bidding of foreign corporations. I don't expect these 'terrerists' to get much in the way of true justice - assuming they're not just fall guys.

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition! (1)

maetrix (179195) | more than 3 years ago | (#36403596)

No really! Can YOU prove they expected this raid?! Just sayin'...

Really?...... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36403622)

We made a revolution and took down the government, catch us too.
I am Egyptian and i am OK with what Anonymous did to the old regime's sites :)

Submitter didn't Read the full title (1)

repapetilto (1219852) | more than 3 years ago | (#36403672)

What the hell? Now even the people submitting articles aren't reading them. Or even the entire title. Here is the full title:

'Anonymous' cyberattack arrests made in Spain
Accused not involved in April PlayStation Network intrusion

We are Anonymous. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36403708)

We are Anonymous. We are Legion. We do not forgive. We do not forget. Expect us.

Re:We are Anonymous. (1)

juancn (596002) | more than 3 years ago | (#36403726)

We are Anonymous. We are Legion. We do not forgive. We do not forget. Expect us.

Sorry, I meant to say we're Anonymous Coward.

Re:We are Anonymous. (1)

SomeJoel (1061138) | more than 3 years ago | (#36403892)

We are Anonymous. We are Legion. We do not forgive. We do not forget. Expect us.

Sorry, I meant to say we're Anonymous Coward.

Sure you did, Juan.

Re:We are Anonymous. (1)

Raenex (947668) | more than 3 years ago | (#36404262)

Mom's calling. Dinner is ready.

Re:We are Anonymous. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36404816)

Anonymous, meet the CNP, FBI, and Interpol. They don't forget either, and it's not their job to forgive. They've faced groups without org charts before. You might not know who your leaders are, but they will.

Re:We are Anonymous. (1)

schnikies79 (788746) | more than 3 years ago | (#36405302)

You are not legion, you're a semi-organized group of idiots. Shut up.

I thought they couldn't get caught, guys? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36403718)

I remember everyone here saying there's noooo way hackers ever get caught nope, not ever....

Sticking to your guns you say now "those are the wrong people" or "so what?"

You kno how silly you sound now? And it didn't even take years like in the past.

Re:I thought they couldn't get caught, guys? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36403922)

Really. Everyone here. Saying that.

And _you_ say "You kno how silly you sound now"?

hahaha.

Anonymous is like a turd (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36403852)

Anonymous is like a turd.

Cut off its head and you have two turds.

I am the leader of Anonymous (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36404074)

Honest.

Re:I am the leader of Anonymous (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36404240)

No, I'm Spartacus!

(3 people, Egyptian govt, other targets) in Spain (1)

uncledrax (112438) | more than 3 years ago | (#36404296)

"Three people accused of being behind cyberattacks on the Sony PlayStation store, the Egyptian government and other targets have been arrested in Spain. "

They arrested 3 people, the Egyptian Government, and other targets, while they were in Spain?.. odd.. must have been there on holiday? I mean I know the Egyptian government isn't as stable as it once was... oh well.

Turnabout (1)

rossz (67331) | more than 3 years ago | (#36405088)

If they didn't want to get arrested, they should have secured their servers.

Evidence Anonymous was behind all these attacks (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36405792)

They used their name to breach the security of the FTP service and access the account data. You may want to check your FTP logs to see if they are trying to hack your server.

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