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A Deep-Dive Look At Samsung's Galaxy Tab 10.1

timothy posted more than 3 years ago | from the pleasant-news-from-the-ongoing-future dept.

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MojoKid writes "Samsung's Galaxy Tab 10.1 was announced way back in February this year just prior to Apple's iPad 2 launch. Shortly after, a Samsung VP noted the company was re-evaluating their Galaxy Tab line in the wake of Apple's strong iPad 2 showing in early March. Since then, the Galaxy Tab 10.1 has begun shipping and early reports show the Android 3.1 driven device to be slightly thinner than the iPad 2, lighter and with NVIDIA's 1GHz dual-core Tegra 2 processor under the hood, every bit as capable. With recent Honeycomb entrants in the 10-inch Android tablet market, like the Asus Transformer, Motorola Xoom and Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1, the iPad 2 finally has solid competition in terms of both hardware and OS performance."

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Well (2)

zero.kalvin (1231372) | more than 3 years ago | (#36412514)

"the iPad 2 finally has solid competition in terms of both hardware and OS performance." That's good news, more competition, better options for the rest of us.

Re:Well (5, Interesting)

garcia (6573) | more than 3 years ago | (#36412556)

Does it really mean that? This is Apple after all. People are going to buy the iPad2 over the other devices for any number of reasons--mainly the OS and the applications available for it.

Personally I would much prefer an iOS device if I were to get a tablet simply because I already own an iPhone and I prefer the UI. While I don't enjoy using my Mac Mini (1st gen which really needs to be retired) simply because I prefer the application support available for Windows, nothing beats the iPhone IMO.

Now, if the Tab had come $100 cheaper and offered me something MORE than what the iPad2 does, I would be all over it. But for the same price it's just not worth it to lose the ease of use, interoperability, and application support.

YMMV.

Re:Well (3, Interesting)

amiga3D (567632) | more than 3 years ago | (#36412598)

If the samsung came with something like Meego or one of the touchscreen linux distros I'd be more interested. I'm underwhelmed by Android. The more I see it the less I like it. It's okay for phones but on larger devices it's not so good.

Re:Well (1, Interesting)

Divebus (860563) | more than 3 years ago | (#36413538)

The people I know with Android devices are (1) "anything but Apple" geeks, (2) buy only on initial price, (3) can't tell the difference between iOS, Android or anything else they're looking at or (4) don't really care (a rarity). I've helped these people set up their Androids for various things (mail accounts, ringtones, Wi-Fi access) and I get the "what were they thinking" feeling about how Android behaves. It's relatively clunky, vague, inconsistent, rigid and confusing compared to iOS across all the devices.

Funny thing is Android users typically don't even want to touch an iPhone or iPad. They apparently don't want to know the differences for fear of feeling foolish, or fooled maybe. I don't think they have anything to worry about - to each, his own. They won't hesitate to challenge me to some sort of page loading duel or app demonstration which usually ends badly for them or at least at a draw - their brand new Android against my two year old 3GS. When they do touch an iOS device, however, they're astonished at how fluidly their fingers seem to connect to what's on the screen and can't put it down.

Android has replicated a lot of the whoosh and swoosh from the original iPhone and that's good enough for most people - the "sizzle off the steak". The real geeks love Android because they can "do whatever they want" - but few of them actually do it, they just talk about it. The real key is the entire Apple ecosystem of products that can't be replicated by all these disconnected devices. Solve that equation and Android could achieve functional parity with iOS in a large desirable ecosystem. Unfortunately, Android is starting to look a lot like the "Plays For Sure" products with hundreds of junkyard class competitors which will surely overcome the iPod.

Re:Well (3, Interesting)

greentshirt (1308037) | more than 3 years ago | (#36413768)

I'm a university student working in cellular sales part time and I can tell you that the trend I see is actually the opposite. People come into the store due to Apple marketing, wanting an iPhone. They are sometimes shocked that a touch screen demo phone they are playing with isn't actually an iPhone, but is a Windows Mobile 7 or Android device. Many people have no idea what a phone OS is or that there are touch screen phones that are not iPhones.

That being said, however, even the most basic users quickly see the advantage of Android over iOS. When people try Swype for the first time, it blows their mind. When people see live wall papers for the first time, it blows their mind. When people see home screen widgets for the first time, it blows their mind. When I show people my own Android device which is running a custom launcher called ADW EX, and how quickly and easily I can change my theme to look (and behave) like an iPhone, or like a Nexus S, or any other presets I've configured, it blows their mind.

For customers who don't care about any of that, and just want something easy, Windows Mobile 7 seems to offer a very strong alternative to iOS. It is extremely simple to use, well laid out, and the devices I've used have been blazing fast.

At this point in the game, both Apple and Microsoft are extremely concerned about Android. Google had a master stroke in creating and developing Android and providing it for free. They have gained unprecedented hardware support and once Google voice spreads to the rest of North America, and the world, it will only shake things up even more. I'm certain Google's hardware coup played a part in the Microsoft / Nokia merger, and the potential of Google voice must have played a role in the Microsoft purchase of Skype.

Betting against Apple is usually a suckers bet because they sell an image, not a product. That being said, my prediction for the mobile world five years from today is a landscape where Apple is marginalized to cult followers and the rest of the market is split fairly evenly between Google and Microsoft. I think Microsoft will fight for mobile as if their survival depended on it, and Windows Mobile 7 is probably the most iPhonesque non-Apple OS I've seen thus far. Will be fun to watch.

Re:Well (0)

eL-gring0 (1950736) | more than 3 years ago | (#36412604)

Dunno, man. 16GB/3G models are $200 cheaper than their Apple counterparts (429 vs 629 @ BestBuy). Do you think there's enough margin to go any lower without a Microsoft-style flooding the market at a loss?

I'll admit I'm waiting for the leapfrogging of models to slow down and to see if the tablet market will crash before jumping in myself.

Re:Well (5, Interesting)

blahbooboo (839709) | more than 3 years ago | (#36412620)

Now, if the Tab had come $100 cheaper and offered me something MORE than what the iPad2 does, I would be all over it. But for the same price it's just not worth it to lose the ease of use, interoperability, and application support.

Exactly. It's not enough to match the ipad, it has to be CHEAPER than the ipad to be worthwhile for normal people.

Not meant as flamebait, but I believe Android would never have gotten as popular as now if the iphone hadn't been limited to one carrier and priced higher than the android phones in the USA.

Re:Well (4, Interesting)

camperslo (704715) | more than 3 years ago | (#36412806)

Why can't they be much cheaper? These vendors got the OS for free. Most won't do huge ad campaigns. The CPUs cost far less than x86 Intel chips. It's not like the displays are made of anything extraordinary. With competition and SOCs, these could likely be in the price range of netbooks. Of course the margins would be fairly thin, but when they're Windows-netbook-like commodities without the price of Windows, that's how anything that isn't the hottest stuff should be priced.

Hopefully seeing that the losers don't make any money will motivate companies to put out better products. Maybe someone will actually be smart enough to leverage the power of the user community, and release the full source so others can help polish/innovate to the next level.

The lack of support for old Android products is shameful. Even if there is too little RAM to use the latest version of Android, all vendors should still have provided updates for things like security issues. Some units are being treated like they're disposable. They should be priced to match.

And with some vendors putting out models that are a bit quirky or are otherwise duds, the previous generation models being cleared out ought to be dumped at really low ($100 - $200) prices.

If Google is making ad money off of the OS, perhaps some hardware vendors should consider asking Google to pay them to use it? Maybe Microsoft shouldn't be the only one to pay to see its OS and search product installed?

Re:Well (3, Interesting)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 3 years ago | (#36413006)

Why can't they be much cheaper?

While some here on /. will refuse to admit, it actually is costly to make a tablet and get a decent margin on them. Most here would like a tablet to cost $150 and be able to run Crysis II while mixing 5.1 audio at the same time; there are limits to what tablets can do for a price. Some components like 10" screens are not plentiful as they have not been mass produced by many suppliers and are still limited to a few companies.

The CPUs cost far less than x86 Intel chips. It's not like the displays are made of anything extraordinary. With competition and SOCs, these could likely be in the price range of netbooks. Of course the margins would be fairly thin, but when they're Windows-netbook-like commodities without the price of Windows, that's how anything that isn't the hottest stuff should be priced.

Just because the CPUs may cost less does not mean the whole device is going to cost less. The touchscreen probably makes up for the difference in prices. Also form factor has a cost. Generally the smaller form factor costs more to manufacture. A manufacture could probably make a cheaper 1" thick tablet but no one is going to buy it next to thinner one.

And with some vendors putting out models that are a bit quirky or are otherwise duds, the previous generation models being cleared out ought to be dumped at really low ($100 - $200) prices.

One advantage that Apple has over their competitors is the vertical integration. They can sell the iPad at lower prices and still get a decent margin since they sell enough of them at retail to keep those margins.

Re:Well (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36413272)

One advantage that Apple has over their competitors is the vertical integration. They can sell the iPad at lower prices and still get a decent margin since they sell enough of them at retail to keep those margins.

The other vendors have distributors in place. The vertical integration helps Apple make a better product since they were heavily into the design. But as far as cost goes, the main vertical-piece the (want-to-be) competitors get from others is the OS which they get for free. If they've made products they're confident in, they can build in volume too. A company like Samsung actually has an advantage over Apple since they make both screens and semiconductors. So they really do have lower costs than Apple, and should be able to settle for lower margins as well. The prices should come down.

Re:Well (1)

metalmaster (1005171) | more than 3 years ago | (#36413556)

A company like Samsung actually has an advantage over Apple since they make both screens and semiconductors. So they really do have lower costs than Apple, and should be able to settle for lower margins as well. The prices should come down.

Thats not actually the case. Synergy doesnt necessarily come easy for corporations that have a hand in everything. Samsung may make both led screens and soc, but if its more profitable for another company to purchase those soc you can bet thats what Samsung will do.

This was discussed a few months back when Samsung was producing chips for Apple. Ya, Samsung makes their own tablets and phones. Apple can afford to pay for more units, so they get the contract....not Samsung's own division. Its what keeps corps like that afloat. Otherwise its hard to have a hand in everything.

Re:Well (1)

Mike_K (138858) | more than 3 years ago | (#36413664)

The reason they cannot be much cheaper is *because* they get the OS for free.

None of the other vendors can match Apple on purchasing power alone, so they will have a hard time competing on cost for comparable hardware. And since Apple owns the software and the store that comes with it, they can sell the hardware below cost, and make it all back in the App Store, iTunes, etc.

Re:Well (1)

C0vardeAn0nim0 (232451) | more than 3 years ago | (#36413824)

samsung can, not only because they're HUGE, but also because they can make their own chips if they decide to ditch tegra2. remember that samsung is the current manufacturer of apple's Ax chips.

Re:Well (1)

Haedrian (1676506) | more than 3 years ago | (#36413202)

Not meant as flamebait, but I believe Android would never have gotten as popular as now if the iphone hadn't been limited to one carrier and priced higher than the android phones in the USA.

The US isn't the only country in the world you know. Where I come from androids are still more popular, even though there are no carrier locks or anything like that (in fact, most mobiles are bought from a shop and then you put in the sim card, not bought as part of a contract)

Re:Well (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36412626)

Why do ppl always claim IPad has more apps for it ? Knowing the filtering with respect to installing software on the ipad as well as the almost mandatory use of objective C and the limitations in the available API sets to access hardware ... why whould it carry or have the capability to carry more software than an andoid device ? Only the things apple believes in are available. Usb ? No not needed ... Additional memory ? Hmm .. no really either ... Connect to a regular HDMI/VGA monitor ... are you kidding ?

Speaking of stability and quality ? Honestly i have used an Ipad and yes it crashes and yes things sometimes just - no not - work ... like with other OS-ses.

Interoperatibility ? Man, android is built using linux ... linux is interoperable with anything ... much more than IOS. but yes with Apple stuff, sure, there you are right.

You are right that an IPad matches better with IPhone and MacOS but have you tried using it in a non-apple world ? Really hard !

Re:Well (3, Insightful)

PCM2 (4486) | more than 3 years ago | (#36412646)

Why do ppl always claim IPad has more apps for it ? Knowing the filtering with respect to installing software on the ipad as well as the almost mandatory use of objective C and the limitations in the available API sets to access hardware ... why whould it carry or have the capability to carry more software than an andoid device ?

Because more people write iOS apps than Android apps? Because the iTunes App Store has more apps in it than the Android Market? This is a strange question. Sure, people could theoretically write more apps for Android than iOS... but they don't.

Re:Well (2)

Kral_Blbec (1201285) | more than 3 years ago | (#36412678)

Unless you are going to install every app in either market, that is a moot point. Most of the apps in both are worthless.

Re:Well (2, Interesting)

iluvcapra (782887) | more than 3 years ago | (#36412792)

That's not completely reasonable -- Android is free to be used on any carrier network and by any handset manufacturer, so I'm told this spurs competition and improves consumer choice.*

If there are six people writing mortgage interest calculator apps instead of two, it's pretty clear which market has better competition and consumer choice. The fact that 3rd party developer revenues on the Android store are significantly less than on Apple's store, leading to less developer interest, less choice and competition, and more ads and undesirable misfeatures (like customer data gathering) despite having a more open market, is a perverse but real outcome and directly attributable to the business model.

(* Set aside for a moment the fact that any Android phone without "Nexus" in its name is more locked-down than an iPhone.)

Re:Well (3, Interesting)

iluvcapra (782887) | more than 3 years ago | (#36412854)

Okay I pulled those numbers out of my ass. On the App Store we got 174 "mortgage interest" , and on the Android Market we have 234. OTOH, on the Android Market about 50 or so of these apps are just branded "$reatlor Mortgage Calculator" apps like this one [android.com] and another 50 that are just RSS feed readers of some guy's blog on the financial crisis [android.com] . All of the Apple store apps were legit, destinguishable calculators from a variety of vendors.

Re:Well (2)

cduffy (652) | more than 3 years ago | (#36412898)

(* Set aside for a moment the fact that any Android phone without "Nexus" in its name is more locked-down than an iPhone.)

My LG P-999 (aka T-Mobile G2x) would beg to differ with you. So would my phone before that (an HTC Hero) and my phone before that (an HTC Dream).

Also -- missed the announcement from HTC they would be unlocking their future bootloaders?

Re:Well (1)

iluvcapra (782887) | more than 3 years ago | (#36413038)

LG P-999 (aka T-Mobile G2x)

Why is this phone $420 and only available with T-mobile [google.com] ? Is this really a competitive handset? The freedom premium here is a little extraordinary, particularly if it's only T-Mobile bands.

Also -- missed the announcement from HTC they would be unlocking their future bootloaders?

I have seen it, but let's see what happens to HTCs sales through it's carrier channels, huh? Maybe Verizon will decide they want to start pushing the Samsungs harder all of the sudden, or maybe they aren't really an HTC kind of company.

Re:Well (1)

toadlife (301863) | more than 3 years ago | (#36413450)

My Samsung Epic 4g (Galaxy S) has a custom ROM.

No locked bootloader here.

Re:Well (1)

cduffy (652) | more than 3 years ago | (#36413588)

Why is this phone $420 and only available with T-mobile? Is this really a competitive handset?

Dual-core CPU, 4G radio, latest-generation 3D acceleration, DVI output (and the hardware is more than adequate for streaming a great-quality picture off Netflix over that DVI output). I bought it as future-proofing, but the consumer justification for the markup is that it's gamer equipment... nothing about a "freedom premium".

You have a limited view (naturally) (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36412920)

Outside the US, there is generally only one model of iPhone sold. All the networks in the UK use the same tech. The same applies to Europe.
my iPhone will work on ALL Carriers. This is not new. pretty well every phone sold in this part of the world will work (when unlocked) on all carriers, end of.
I often feel sorry for the terrible state of the US mobile phone system. Your Data packages are **** compared to here.

Re:Well (1)

AliasMarlowe (1042386) | more than 3 years ago | (#36413140)

(* Set aside for a moment the fact that any Android phone without "Nexus" in its name is more locked-down than an iPhone.)

In the US, maybe. In most other parts of the world, Android phones tend not to be locked down.

Re:Well (1)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 3 years ago | (#36413076)

Yes and no. In both stores, there are terrible apps but the larger number of apps generally means you can find an app that you want.

Re:Well (2)

user32.ExitWindowsEx (250475) | more than 3 years ago | (#36412722)

Um, the ipad can connect to both HDMI and VGA monitors now. Sure, you do have to buy adapters but you have to do so for many android devices too.

Re:Well (1)

Dr Herbert West (1357769) | more than 3 years ago | (#36412934)

Quick question-- how well does that work? Do you have true mirroring/2nd monitor functionality (drag an app window from one screen to the other)?

I know the HTC Evo has a crippled firmware driver that will only play "approved" content (Sprint and YouTube video, native slideshow viewers, etc). Luckily the dev community (Sam Bero with his FullHDMI app in particular) has stepped up and built a driver that allows for full output, but I felt pretty betrayed when I found that the implied functionality was not the actual functionality. Marketing douchebags-- "connect your phone to a hi-def tv" implies that you will actually be able to, you know-- PLAY stuff on the hi-def tv.

Re:Well (2, Insightful)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 3 years ago | (#36413070)

Why do ppl always claim IPad has more apps for it ?

Maybe because Apple got at least a year start than Android when it comes to tablets. That and all iPhone/iPod Touch apps work on the iPad without having to recompile. They are not optimized for an iPad screen but they will work. Android did not have that advantage as Honeycomb is different enough from previous phone Android releases where they are not guaranteed to work. They may work but it is not guaranteed.

Knowing the filtering with respect to installing software on the ipad as well as the almost mandatory use of objective C and the limitations in the available API sets to access hardware

And why would any consumer really care about which languages their apps are programmed in? Developers care. With a huge library of apps when launched, developers will develop for iOS due to the large number of consumers.

Speaking of stability and quality ? Honestly i have used an Ipad and yes it crashes and yes things sometimes just - no not - work ... like with other OS-ses.

Can you name exact instances? Seriously Win 7 crashes sometimes on me. Not as much as XP did. By your metric, it is unstable as well.

Interoperatibility ? Man, android is built using linux ... linux is interoperable with anything ... much more than IOS. but yes with Apple stuff, sure, there you are right.

Um have you actually tried to update Android? Depending on the manufacturer, you might have a good experience or a terrible one. And it's all linux. Interoperability indeed!

You are right that an IPad matches better with IPhone and MacOS but have you tried using it in a non-apple world ? Really hard !

I use 4 different OS's on any given day from Windows to OS X to (non-Apple) Unix to Linux. Have you really tried OS X (not Mac OS) because I suspect you haven't if you can't get the name right.

Re:Well (1)

Samantha Wright (1324923) | more than 3 years ago | (#36412670)

Well, it means that people who do prefer the Android way of doing things, and (for some reason beyond my imagination) require a tablet-like device, will be able to get the product they want instead of resorting to their less-preferred Apple backup. I think it's a win for everyone. Definitions of "ease of use" and "interoperability" go both ways, naturally.

Re:Well (1)

index0 (1868500) | more than 3 years ago | (#36412686)

The answer is Asus' EEE Transformer that costs $399. It also has a microsd slot, that an ipad does not have.

Re:Well (1)

symbolset (646467) | more than 3 years ago | (#36412732)

The Transformer did come $100 cheaper, and did offer me more than the iPad2 did. And now I have it and I really like it. YMMV

Re:Well (1)

krelvin (771644) | more than 3 years ago | (#36412872)

Does it really mean that? This is Apple after all. People are going to buy the iPad2 over the other devices for any number of reasons--mainly the OS and the applications available for it.

For the very reason you mention, a lot of people won't buy an iPad because it is Apple, stuck with iTunes etc... I don't have an iPhone, would never want one, so that attraction isn't there. My wife has one though.

Right now, I don't think the tablet experience is there yet, but it will catch up like it has with smartphones.

Re:Well (3, Insightful)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 3 years ago | (#36412944)

I think it means that Apple competitors have now acknowledged that they can't rush out a buggy, incomplete tablet and hope it does well against the iPad. It has to be fairly complete when released instead at some future date. Consumers have short attention spans and first impressions matter.

Re:Well (2)

t2t10 (1909766) | more than 3 years ago | (#36413374)

But for the same price it's just not worth it to lose the ease of use, interoperability, and application support.

Interoperability? With what? iOS is tightly locked down and it primarily "interoperates" with iTunes and (eventually) iCloud.

Ease of use? That's rather dubious. iOS is a bit simpler because it's more limited. But ease of use ultimately needs to be measured in functionality per unit of UI complexity, not just UI complexity.

Application support? There are more tablet apps for iOS to be sure, but entire categories are missing because Apple doesn't allow them.

Sorry, I'm willing to pay extra for an Android tab. Having the Samsung 10.1 come out with the same size and price as the iPad is more than good enough for me, not despite Android but because of it.

Re:Well (1)

bondsbw (888959) | more than 3 years ago | (#36413392)

Does iOS have real widgets (that you can change out for whatever you want... like wifi/3g/etc. buttons)?
Does iOS have voice-recognition throughout?
Does iOS currently have a split keyboard, or let you replace the stock?
Do iOS devices support SD cards?
Does iOS support a mouse?

Disclaimer: I own both an iPhone and a Xoom, and the wife has an Android phone (HTC Aria). I don't see any reason to replace my iPhone anytime soon. But I cannot and would not try to claim that it has Android beat in all categories. The iPad does have Honeycomb beat in tablet apps... so I'm hoping the GT 10.1 will get enough momentum to help change that.

Re:Well (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36412564)

well, maybe if they hired some people to do UI who werent engineers, everyone would have better options. i really don't care how fast my tablet can run a LINPACK benchmark, i care how responsive it is and how usable the UI is, with the choice of applications most of the time.

Competition is good (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36412516)

I have the iPad 2 since 3 weeks, like it a lot (in fact I realize that I now use my home laptop only for more intensive tasks like photo-editing), and there is plenty of good software available at reasonable prices.

Even so, I welcome this competition, it will ensure that all manufacturers will do their best to improve their products.

Missing the point (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36412600)

It's funny that these formerly PC performance sites decided to jump into the fray and began applying the gamer rig logic to tablets with pointless specs that don't explain anything of value to the average consumer.

The correct question should be "does it have awesome native apps and games, support, and enough differentiation from the leading tablet to stand on its own?"

So far, Android-based tablets don't. It's kind of a clusterfuck on that front. When carrier subsidy model is taken out of the equation you're left with bunch of spec-driven touch panels with goofy names.

don't buy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36412622)

As far as i know steve jobs has a couple of patents on thinness and lightness, they will sue Samsung in the following weeks.

I have one of these (4, Informative)

PCM2 (4486) | more than 3 years ago | (#36412634)

I have a Galaxy Tab 10.1 and I've also used a Xoom. Both are pretty comparable in terms of performance, which means not flawless (video occasionally appears to stutter a little bit) but acceptable. I like the thinness and light weight of the Galaxy Tab. My main beefs with it are:

  1. The onscreen keyboard kind of sucks, like most Android keyboards I've seen. It's slow, and I shouldn't have to toggle in and out of punctuation mode just to type an apostrophe.
  2. The touchscreen resolution doesn't seem very good. In Facebook, for example, next to the logo, there are three icons: A person, a cartoon speech bubble, and a globe. Mostly you'll want to click the globe to see your friends' latest updates. Clicking the globe on the Galaxy Tab is a chore and a half. It wants to select the speech bubble, every time.
  3. The built-in browser still renders pages strangely. It seems to want to reformat Web pages to fit the screen even when that option is not selected. And there are various other rendering quirks -- Slashboxes don't show up at all, for example, and the options in the top tab of Slashdot are scattered all over the place.
  4. The screen aspect ration is widescreen. That's great if you plan to use it to watch Shrek 2 from bed, but for everything else it sort of sucks. In landscape mode, the onscreen keyboard takes up half the screen real estate, making it hard to see what you're doing. In portrait mode, the screen is excessively long and narrow. The iPad uses a more traditional screen ratio that makes it more versatile.
  5. I'm just not so sure what's so great about this kind of device. A netbook is much easier to operate, is more versatile, and is almost as light. I can't see myself sitting on the bus with my Galaxy Tab like an asshole, so it's mostly going to stay at my apartment, where it just feels like a slower, harder to navigate version of the devices I already have.

Re:I have one of these (1)

deadcrow (946749) | more than 3 years ago | (#36412724)

Keyboard: Get SwiftKey. It's much better, and you can long press for most punctuation and numbers.

Touchscreen: I found this for almost all touchscreen devices. Luckily, now you can just pinch-zoom in, click, pinch unzoom.

Built in Browser: Sucks. Use Dolphin. Much better performance and rendering. Also makes good use of left and right swiping to display favorites and add-on's.

I also recommend Battery Snap. It keeps data and displays a graph of all battery usage, so you can easily see what, where and when your battery was draining.

Re:I have one of these (2)

PCM2 (4486) | more than 3 years ago | (#36412754)

Keyboard: Get SwiftKey. It's much better, and you can long press for most punctuation and numbers.

To clarify, I was using the stock Samsung Keyboard that's the default when you start the machine. You can revert to the Android keyboard, which at least solves the apostrophe problem, but isn't a whole lot better. I'll look at SwiftKey. On my Android phone I use Swype.

Touchscreen: I found this for almost all touchscreen devices. Luckily, now you can just pinch-zoom in, click, pinch unzoom.

If only it was that easy. Seriously, trying to click that control is hell. Enough to frustrate a sensible person to the point that they wouldn't use that device anymore.

I also recommend Battery Snap. It keeps data and displays a graph of all battery usage, so you can easily see what, where and when your battery was draining.

One thing that does seem really good about the Galaxy Tab 10.1 is the battery life. I don't know how much continuous use it can handle, because I've never run it out. I've left it sitting around, unused, for a week or so and there's still some life left in the battery the next time I pick it up.

Re:I have one of these (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36412852)

One thing that does seem really good about the Galaxy Tab 10.1 is the battery life. I don't know how much continuous use it can handle, because I've never run it out. I've left it sitting around, unused, for a week or so and there's still some life left in the battery the next time I pick it up.

Considering it just came out on Wednesday, how have you had enough time to leave it around unused for a week?

Re:I have one of these (1)

PCM2 (4486) | more than 3 years ago | (#36413128)

Considering it just came out on Wednesday, how have you had enough time to leave it around unused for a week?

I got mine at Google I/O in early May. The only thing I can't really speak to yet is Android 3.1 "Honeycomb." Mine came with 3.0 and only got the upgrade to 3.1 on Thursday, so it's possible things like battery life may have changed, but overall for day-to-day use the 3.1 changes seem minimal.

Re:I have one of these (1)

bondsbw (888959) | more than 3 years ago | (#36413446)

I have a Xoom, and I recommend Thumb Keyboard. It lets you have a split layout for landscape mode on a tablet... very nice, Apple took the same idea and put it in iOS 5 for iPad. You can find it on the Android Market.

Not a fan boy, but... (2, Interesting)

FyRE666 (263011) | more than 3 years ago | (#36412638)

I've yet to see anything on Android that gives a user-experience anywhere close to the iPad. I bought the original Galaxy Pad at about the same time I bought the iPad ; I've had it around 4 months, and can count on 1 hand the number of times I've used it. The interface just doesn't seem as though it can quite keep up with the user, slow to launch apps, just didn't take to it. The iPad (and now the iPad2) I use every day.

Don't get me wrong, there's a lot of things I don't like about Apple - I hate iTunes with a passion, and the fact I'm forced to use it with the iPad, but there's little that's challenging the iPad at the moment...

Re:Not a fan boy, but... (0)

nicholas22 (1945330) | more than 3 years ago | (#36412684)

You made a mistake. You bought an expensive Android tablet. You should have looked at devices half or a third of the cost, such as Nook Color. It is great for most things such as web browsing and gaming. For the things it's not, you tend to not mind for a device of that cost.

Re:Not a fan boy, but... (2)

Wumpus (9548) | more than 3 years ago | (#36412870)

A cheap device you don't use is better how?

Re:Not a fan boy, but... (1)

Jello B. (950817) | more than 3 years ago | (#36412880)

You bought an old tablet and you're saying that because your old tablet doesn't compete with the iPad that none of the new ones compete either. Android tablets have changed dramatically.

Re:Not a fan boy, but... (4, Interesting)

brunes69 (86786) | more than 3 years ago | (#36412998)

The original Galaxy Tab runs Gingerbread. The Xoom, Transformer, and Galaxy 10.1 run Honeycomb. It is night and day different.

Not to mention these tablets all have high performance Tegra 2 chips while the original Tab was running only a Hummingbird.

You are basically saying you tried Windows 98 and hated it therefore Windows 7 has to be just as bad.

I have an Asus Transformer and LOVE IT. It's an amazing machine, and I don't have the handcuffs on that my iPad-owning friends have.

Re:Not a fan boy, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36413412)

Not a fan boy, but definitely not tech-minded I can see. You can't change the UX on idevices at all until Apple does so for you whether you like it or not. So you'd better like it, because it's all you'll EVER get. At least with android if you don't like how something works, you have options to change it. There is no recourse for the people who dislike a particular aspect of their idevices (and there are QUITE a few out there, you can almost get them to admit it when they're frustrated at their device not working properly/as they expect it)

What about the Eee Pad? (2)

dogmatixpsych (786818) | more than 3 years ago | (#36412648)

Looking at the results, the Asus Eee Pad Transformer comes out on top. I don't know how the designs compare but the Asus looks like a better deal, especially considering you can get a 32GB model for the same price as the 16GB Samsung. Neither at those price points is compelling enough to outdo the iPad 2 though. If they were $400 or $350, then they'd be compelling enough to get instead of the iPad. As the reviewers noted though, the tablet-centric apps just aren't there yet for the Android Market whereas there are a ton of useful iPad apps.

Re:What about the Eee Pad? (0, Troll)

PRMan (959735) | more than 3 years ago | (#36412676)

I have the Asus, and I love playing with emulators for every system and game I ever owned and watching movies ripped from my collection using Handbrake. We hooked up the HDMI out cable and watched a movie with the grandparents the other day and it was great.

All of which, I can't do with an IPad.

Re:What about the Eee Pad? (1)

teh31337one (1590023) | more than 3 years ago | (#36412746)

You can actually do all those things with an iPad... VLC for the media, jailbreak for the emulators, and a 30pin to HDMI connector that Apple sells for the HDMI

Re:What about the Eee Pad? (2)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#36412818)

VLC for the media

I thought VLC had been pulled from the App Store for GPL violation.

jailbreak for the emulators

Until Apple fixes the vulnerability that allows a jailbreak. The advantage of Android, which I admit may in practice be only philosophical, is that the owner of a device doesn't need to exploit a security hole just to use a device as he intends.

Re:What about the Eee Pad? (1)

teh31337one (1590023) | more than 3 years ago | (#36412990)

Preaching to the choir here, I have a Galaxy S II, and am well aware of the advantages and shortcomings of android. Just wanted to point out to GP that the things he mentioned are possible, even if you have to go through a few hoops. (JB and adapter for HDMI)

Re:What about the Eee Pad? (3, Informative)

Graymalkin (13732) | more than 3 years ago | (#36412776)

None of the movies I've ripped with Handbrake work on my iPad? Shit I guess the HDMI adapter I just bought doesn't work either! Why didn't you tell me I couldn't do those things before I bought it?

Wait, you're full of shit and I can do all that with my iPad. Does the iPad also take 20 minutes to copy a 17MB file?

Re:What about the Eee Pad? (4, Interesting)

brunes69 (86786) | more than 3 years ago | (#36412982)

Perhaps his point is you don't have to use special software like Handbrake or buy special cables to use HDMI. All this stuff works out of the box on any Android tablet, including playing any format under the sun. I like Moboplayer for this.

Re:What about the Eee Pad? (1)

PCM2 (4486) | more than 3 years ago | (#36413196)

Perhaps his point is you don't have to use special software like Handbrake or buy special cables to use HDMI. All this stuff works out of the box on any Android tablet, including playing any format under the sun.

Since TFA is about the Galaxy Tab 10.1, I have to disabuse you of this notion. The Galaxy Tab 10.1 does not have an HDMI port. According to Samsung, [samsung.com] "You can even share Tab content on your HDTV through the Tablet Extender feature—or stream it wirelessly with Allshare" ... but I have no idea what the Tablet Extender feature is, or what Allshare is. Neither is mentioned in the product manual. [samsung.com]

Re:What about the Eee Pad? (1)

Graymalkin (13732) | more than 3 years ago | (#36413292)

His point was clearly stated, he made the claim the iPad can't play movies with Handbrake or connect to a TV via HDMI. Both of these are simply ridiculous things to say. Shit, Handbrake has an output preset named iPad.

As for the buying accessories, there's definitely a valid use case for a built-in HDMI port. However with the adapter I bought for my iPad I got a free HDMI output upgrade for my iPhone. There's downsides to adapters but there's also iodized to device ecosystems. The single adapter I bought increased the utility of multiple devices and gives me an extra feature checkbox next time I upgrade one of those devices.

Re:What about the Eee Pad? (2, Informative)

samkass (174571) | more than 3 years ago | (#36412814)

HDMI... cables, how quaint. I stream video wirelessly to the TV via the $99 Apple TV (which also has the best Netflix UI of any device out there) from the iPad2. If you don't want to stream wirelessly, though, I suppose you COULD buy the HDMI cable for the iPad2. I also have a ton of stuff downloaded off the TiVo as well as movies ripped from Handbrake. I'm not sure why you think the iPad can't do this stuff... it does it better than anything else around.

Re:What about the Eee Pad? (4, Informative)

brunes69 (86786) | more than 3 years ago | (#36413020)

Er.. so? I can stream from my Asus TF-101 to any DLNA device under the sun, not simply an Apple TV. I can stream DIRECT TO MY TV, which is a Samsung flatscreen that has DLNA support.

But really this has nothing at all to do with the parent since you can't compare plugging in an HDMI cable to streaming to some external device? It is not even remotely the same thing. (Also, the iPad does not even have an HDMI port, you have to BUY an ugly and cumbersome external dongle).

Re:What about the Eee Pad? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36412838)

Or, you can actually. I really wish people would only post factual information, but *shrug* -- that's what the moderation system is for.

I have a non-jailbroken iPad 2 (it can't be done at this time). I have an 8TB Drobo nearly full of ripped and downloaded TV Shows/Movies. Each and every one of them stream with ease to any device in my house (Apple TV, iPhone, either of our iPads, etc). For a total of $5.98 on the Mac App Store and the iOS App Store, I don't even have to do any work --- I put a disc in, it automates the rip and insert into iTunes (with all cover art and plot info). Downloads are 100% automated ; once complete, it just throws it into iTunes for me while I'm asleep. And I can stream *anything* on 3G or Wi-Fi.

As for emulators, the only one I care about is SNES4iPad. I have a dev license, so I install whatever I want. I don't even know how to program in Obj-C at all. I guess we can chalk up the $99 for the license to the total? But that difference in price is nothing compared to the "I don't have to know what I'm doing" usability of iOS.

You do know that you can just simply connect an iPad to a TV with HDMI, right?

Re:What about the Eee Pad? (1)

brunes69 (86786) | more than 3 years ago | (#36412964)

You can get a 16GB EEPad for $399.

I think part of the thing these reviewers all miss is that every Android tablet has a MicroSD slot. There is no point paying $100 for 16 Gb of storage. It's highway robbery. I don't know why anyone in their right mind would get the 32GB version over the 16Gb version.

This of course is very different from the iPad which has no such slot.

Re:What about the Eee Pad? (1)

Steve Blake (13873) | more than 3 years ago | (#36413132)

I don't believe the Galaxy 10.1 has a memory slot (at least, I have not found any spec sheet online that mentions it). Major FAIL if true.

Re:What about the Eee Pad? (1)

Overzeetop (214511) | more than 3 years ago | (#36413138)

Well, that's only partially true - why do people bother RAIDing discs together instead of just burning their music and movies out to DVD or BR discs? It's more convenient.

Up until a year and a half ago (actually, closer to two now), my phone had a uSD card slot. You know how often the memory got upgraded/swapped? Each time I bought a new phone. And, at that point, I was in for $100 for whatever the largest card was at the time (which, interestingly, was always half of what I could have gotten in an iPhone as native). Having a 50GB music collection spread over 3-4 uSD cards isn't exactly my idea if fun (and 12-16 at the "sweet spot" for memory cost is even worse).

And though, in theory, I could carry far more movies on a handful of uSD cards than I can put on my 64GB iPad ($529, including 3G radio), it would cost me a bundle, and I'd have to keep up with them - unless there were a way to install/store multiple cards in another tablet.

Heck, even today you can't buy a uSD card with the capacity of an iPad (64GB is not actually been released).

Re:What about the Eee Pad? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36413780)

If they were $400 or $350

For that price point you might want to check out the Viewsonic gTablet [google.com] (aka Malata Zpad [google.com] + some other release name in Italy). Normally $300 but I've seen it on sale for $250. Tegra2 chip like the Xoom, 512MB RAM and 16GB SD built in with an additional external micro SD card (48GB max). Also has a full sized USB plug for external accessories (USB KB, etc). 10" screen though it's a bit narrower than the xoom screen and it doesn't include gps (though it can use an external bluetooth gps). Some folks have complained about the viewing angle, but I don't see much of an issue on mine.

It has about 4 different roms built for it. Currently running Cyanogenmod 7.0.3 with Netflix working and I'm pretty pleased.

There we go again (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36412672)

Nerds who can only compare hardware components and checklist features without taking into account how the damn thing works compared to the competition.

Apple is successful because of what they do and how they do it, not because their hardware is the greatest and latest.

Acer a500 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36412768)

Don't forget the Acer a500 as another Android competitor.

Great story! (0)

webcrawleredge (2256824) | more than 3 years ago | (#36412778)

Thank you for the story! Really good reading! =)

I can haz one with a keyboard? (1)

rrohbeck (944847) | more than 3 years ago | (#36412788)

Where are the ARM based netbooks that run Ubuntu? And no, I don't mean the Asus Transformer at twice the price of an Atom based netbook.

Dear Companies making tablets, (1)

whistlingtony (691548) | more than 3 years ago | (#36412794)

I don't want to buy a "product" that I can't tinker with.

I want to put my own version of Linux on it. I want to be able to open it up and put in more RAM, a bigger hard drive, replace the WIFI card, etc...

I hate having to search the internet for custom ROMs. I hate not knowing which dodgy weirdo put together what ROM. I hate having the OS loaded in firmware...

Give me a tablet form factor with an SSD drive and Ubuntu on it. I can actually USE this to do my homework. No, a text app doesn't replace OpenOffice functionality. I want to be able to install my own stuff on it. I want to program on it. I want to ACTUALLY USE the tablet as my MAIN computer. Give me HDMI out and a real USB port... I'll plug in a seperate monitor, mouse, and keyboard when I need to do my homework. I just also want to read on the bus, or in the park, or check a map when I'm in a new place, which the tablet form factor is great for.

Please?

Tony

Re:Dear Companies making tablets, (3, Informative)

RyuuzakiTetsuya (195424) | more than 3 years ago | (#36412848)

Dear technogeek,

We want products that work first. Unfortunately this means locking down. We also outnumber you by a wide margin.

Sorry

-everyone else

Re:Dear Companies making tablets, (1)

Pulzar (81031) | more than 3 years ago | (#36412896)

We want products that work first. Unfortunately this means locking down. We also outnumber you by a wide margin.

I guess all the PCs out there just don't work?

Re:Dear Companies making tablets, (3, Insightful)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 3 years ago | (#36413386)

I guess all the PCs out there just don't work?

They don't for a lot of people. You know, the ones that bought a random Windows laptop a few years ago to do email / browsing / Farmbook and now have them so infested with shovelware / spyware / viruses that it's "broken". These are the people slurping up iPads - they need an appliance, not a general purpose computing device.

"We" are different and comprise a very small fraction of the consumer market. The market that powers the US economy for better or worse. THIS is Apple's claim to fame and fortune - the realization that everybody else was 'doing it wrong' in terms of the consumer computing experience. Now, Apple could have made it easier on "us" by having an expert mode in iOS and allowing sideloading. But they didn't (so the jailbreak community did). Sucks to be us but Steve don't care....

Re:Dear Companies making tablets, (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36413590)

If you count downtimes and malware as "don't work", yes, sir.

Re:Dear Companies making tablets, (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36413624)

We want products that work first. Unfortunately this means locking down. We also outnumber you by a wide margin.

I guess all the PCs out there just don't work?

Have you seen the size of the tech support industry? Obviously they don't just work.

Re:Dear Companies making tablets, (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36413628)

I guess all the PCs out there just don't work?

Not without screwing around with them. And once you get something working, don't change anything because it'll break.

Re:Dear Companies making tablets, (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36412914)

Agreed. They can get all 'community spirited' once they've actually made some money.

Re:Dear Companies making tablets, (1)

whistlingtony (691548) | more than 3 years ago | (#36413666)

LOL... I'm 32. I'm LONG past the time where I enjoyed troubleshooting some stupid driver issue into the wee hours of the night... I just want things to work too. And you know what? They do. It's pretty nice really.

Re:Dear Companies making tablets, (1)

CaptainLard (1902452) | more than 3 years ago | (#36412940)

What are your monitor, mouse, and keyboard plugged into right now? Can't you do your homework on that? If you really need to look at it in the park or on the bus (i.e. finish it at the last minute), just upload it.

I don't want to buy a "product" that I can't tinker with.

Then feel fulfilled buying an android tablet. Didn't you do a lot of internet searching to roll your own linux? Roll your own ROM if you must. Most of the major android devices have been rooted so I don't see where your complaint is coming from. Even if it really really must absolutely be linux, just put linux on it. http://liliputing.com/2010/11/ubuntu-linux-shoehorned-onto-the-samsung-galaxy-tab.html [liliputing.com]

Re:Dear Companies making tablets, (4, Funny)

iluvcapra (782887) | more than 3 years ago | (#36412962)

Dear whistlingtony

We, the Companies Making Tables, primarily care about selling 100,000 units at a time to Verizon and Best Buy. We do whatever they need in order to make those tablets disappear off their shelves, causing them to order more tablets. Also if Verizon says that a Blockbuster app and VZ navigator will help them sell tablets, we always take their word for it and make sure the gear does exactly as they say, because they're our customer (a much bigger customer than you I might add), and much better at turning 100,000 tablets into retail sales than we are.

We do know these folks called "Apple," and they make tablets and are really good at turning them into money on a retail basis, but they basically agree with us on several of the lockdown issues for support and market positioning reasons. They hate carriers and channel resellers, though, so they never do what they tell them to do with their tablets, elitists!

Thank you for your concerns, we'll refer them to our marketing department.

Signed, Companies Making Tables

Re:Dear Companies making tablets, (1)

bjwest (14070) | more than 3 years ago | (#36413022)

What you want is a slate computer, not a tablet. Tablets are designed to be light weight devices for somewhat dedicated use (web surfing, email, books, video, etc..), and specialized software. You go throwing in a hard drive (even ssd) and a full blown OS, you're going to need more power (both processor and battery) for it to work.

Re:Dear Companies making tablets, (2)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 3 years ago | (#36413092)

I don't want to buy a "product" that I can't tinker with.

Unfortunately the vast majority of consumers don't. Why should companies spend R&D and expend effort to serve a small minority of the population instead of a larger one?

Re:Dear Companies making tablets, (1)

Deus.1.01 (946808) | more than 3 years ago | (#36413314)

Because that minority invented Visicalc.

Price Performance (2)

dlinear (1053422) | more than 3 years ago | (#36412800)

But what about the price performance? These devices are all priced at the same level or even above than the iPad. All things being equal, the larger market of the has a network effort bonus that maks the iPad appear more valuable. Even the summary states these tablets are, "every bit as capable", in the technology sense, meaning the tech between the two is basically even. Once these Android tablets can offer a device cheaper than an iPad, then we can talk about serious competition.

Re:Price Performance (1)

symbolset (646467) | more than 3 years ago | (#36413104)

The transformer is $100 less than the cheapest iPad2. It's got MicroSDHC slot for up to 32GB of additional storage, 10.1" widescreen display, and Android 3.1 - all of which are a step up from the iPad2 to some people. It's thin and light, goes all day on a battery. There's even an optional keyboard dock with extra battery and genuine USB slots. Performance on the dual-core 1GHz Tegra 2 processor with 1GB RAM is really sweet. There are some games on here I didn't expect to fare well on a tablet, but they're beautiful. They're flying off the shelves.

So those entry conditions that needed to be met before we could talk about serious competition: they're met now. Let's talk. Apple makes a good bit of money on every iPad2, and a little more after the sale with iTunes and the App Store and accessories and whatnot. Other vendors not really as much. They will ramp production of their products as fast as they can, but that won't be as fast as Apple can, probably. It will be a while before the iPad botherers actually take significant share. Eventually though, Apple can't out-compete and out-design every tech company on Earth and they don't intend to try. They will continue to make good money on a limited range of products while exploring even more new realms to conquer.

The fall brings quad-core Android versions with more advanced graphics, and dedicated gaming tablets, so the platform seems to have legs. The phones go well with the tablets - the ecosystem of apps and services is what adds the most value to the end user, not the widget itself. This means that folks who have iPhones are likely to choose the iPad, and Android phone people are likely to go with the Android tablets when they can get them.

How about the Acer Iconia Tab? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36412804)

Anyone have any comments about the Acer Iconia Tab? Seems similar to the Asus Transformer, but includes a real USB 2.0 port. Also has Micro SD slot - not sure if this Galaxy Tab has it. Cons are that it's not as thin as Galaxy Tab and not on 3.1 yet. Costco has the 32GB version for $489, so it's also $100 cheaper than Galaxy Tab.

Tegra2 is not every bit as capable as A5 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36413008)

The Galaxy Tab's Tegra2 is not every bit as capable as the iPad's A5. They have similar integer performance, but the similarity ends there. The Cortex-A9 design, on which they're both based, has an optional FPU/SIMD extension called NEON, which Apple chose to include while Nvidia did not, so the A5 is substantially faster on floating point tasks. And while Nvidia's GPU compares well to the single Imagination GPU equivalents on the market right now, Apple also spent a bunch of transistors to give themselves a lead by including two GPU cores on the A5.

These are actually both fairly remarkable facts, in that while Apple is historically a bit of a cheapskate when it comes to the chips they use, the A5 is a good deal larger (and thus more expensive) than it's competition. It makes me give a good deal more weight than I might otherwise to the rumors that Intel will be taking on the fabrication of Apple designed chips at 32 or even 22nm in the near future.

*cough*advert!*cough* (2)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#36413014)

Another Slashvertisement! Ready pitchforks!!!!

Re:*cough*advert!*cough* (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 3 years ago | (#36413416)

Another Slashvertisement! Ready pitchforks!!!!

You seem like an angry young man. Perhaps this article has touched an unmet need that you are unconsciously rebelling against.

Would you like some Kool-Aid?

I don't see the point of the A4 size. (1)

Deus.1.01 (946808) | more than 3 years ago | (#36413018)

The reason why i got the first Samsung Tab was because it was basically a large PDA that i can fit inside my jacket.

The size is a good compromise, Its even suitable to watch movies on it, I've gone through every episode of DS9 on it(youtube ssshh).

Now I just need a head mounted display(with camera for AR) and frogpad AND ITS GARGOYLE CITY BABY!

Not Apples to apples he he (2)

TheBrutalTruth (890948) | more than 3 years ago | (#36413172)

Stupid joke aside, I own multiple iOS devices (wife & I have iPads) and have had several Android devices (Evo, currently G2, son has a myTouch) and a 7" Sammy tablet - now that was Froyo, but I returned it in 2 days because it was like a bigger, crappier version of my Evo (which had gingerbread on it at the time). I have not tried a Honeycomb or 3.1 device, optimized for the tablet - and don't know if I will anytime soon. The application support is just too deep on iOS for the iPad. Not much for tablet optimized applications for Android, and I doubt it will catch up. Too much HW fragmentation, on the phones and tabs. I'm not a huge fan of the lock in (I see no need to jailbreak my iOS devices, can't resist getting root on Android - why???) but it has obvious benefits to the consumer from a consistency perspective. I know what I'm getting for the money with iOS - with Android on tablets I just don't yet. Funny that they are taking a different approach with ChromeOS - the new machines are identical spec (yes, built "shinier") to my cr-48 (don't knock it unless you have one - I can do 90% of what I personally use a lappy for on it - and ChromeOS gets better constantly).

TouchWiz (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36413274)

The article is missing one of the more important issues with the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and that's the current uncertainty state of the OS. Samsung has already said they are bringing touchWiz to the Galaxy Tab but decided to release it with Honeycomb 3.1 "near" stock because they wouldn't be able to adapt the OS with touchWiz in time for release however they said that touchWiz is coming in an update soon.

This is the biggest issue with the tablet because in a few months time you may end up getting something completely different than what you paid for which is what will hinder a lot of people from buying it. If they decide to allow people to keep the stock version (And support it with future stock updates) then this will indeed become the best tablet on the market otherwise I fear I will have to pass on it.

It's funny that they have proven exactly the point of not having android customisations (bloat and slow updates) by releasing the stock version of it and yet companies keep adding customisations to android which only make it worse. It is sad to see that there has yet to be a real good Android tablet in the Market which users can feel comfortable with (The Galaxy Tab does come damn close though).

the fly in the ointment (1)

samjam (256347) | more than 3 years ago | (#36413348)

stupid lack of USB and HDMI connectors.

Lack of HDMI stops me properly showing off at a friends house in plugging it into his TV cos I left my magic Samsung cable at home.

So that's not going to help my friend want to buy one.

And as I read through the review I thought "yes! at last! One I can buy! Yahoo!" until I saw that stupid cable business. I went through magic vendor proprietary cables with HTC and it's a pain and I'm not doing it again.

Bad luck Samsung, maybe one of your competitors won't be so dumb, I'll wait for them.

I have it all (1)

pbjones (315127) | more than 3 years ago | (#36413668)

I have both device type, as for competition, that doesn't rely on just hardware, the average person is buying iOS for the total package, because they are lazy, the same reason people buy windows. Android is cheap, but with may flavours, and only few devices getting upgrades, it will only ever compete on price.

Got a Xoom this week. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36413680)

Nice hardware apart from the thin power connector, but honeycomb still suffers from a lack of tablet optimized apps and also web sites trying to redirect me to the "mobile" version because they don't write their browser sniffers properly (Slashdot gets it right). But it has nice things like widgets and live wallpapers. Despite all the hype, most "flash" out there is adverts and many websites already detect the iPad and give out HTML5 versions.

Now I own devices from both sides I can enjoy the best of both. There is no more time for fanboys, just enjoy the great hardware that is pushing tech companies to innovate against other.

The Samsung Galaxy Tab range looks good too and it's good that there is a choice of hardware so you don't have to be bound by one design.

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