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Galaxy Tab 10.1 Judged 'No Match For iPad'

timothy posted more than 3 years ago | from the depends-if-you-want-android dept.

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tripleevenfall writes "Clayton Morris reviews the Galaxy Tab 10.1, and finds it lacking, especially at the $400 price point, saying 'I can't in good conscience tell you to go out and spend $400 on this half-baked experience when the fully baked iPad experience can be had for just a few dollars more.'"

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302 comments

Stupid Judge (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36482214)

Justice is blind and so is this is judge.

Re:Stupid Judge (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36482284)

You can mod me down all you want but this will get over turned on appeal they you get an intelligent judge.

Re:Stupid Judge (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36482550)

Niggers are 13% of the population. Niggers are 50% of all inmates. What a bunch of niggers!

What's the iPad experience? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36482224)

Being a big iPhone that can't make phone calls?

Fox news on /.? really? (0, Offtopic)

mauso.mckahl (2279222) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482236)

not front page.

Re:Fox news on /.? really? (0)

Joreallean (969424) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482394)

Seriously...the end of the end.

Re:Fox news on /.? really? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36482642)

Seriously...the penis of the nigger.

Re:Fox news on /.? really? (2)

tripleevenfall (1990004) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482400)

they see me trollin

they hatin

Re:Fox news on /.? really? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36482728)

you sound like a big chocolatey african porchmonkey coon apeman gorilla orantugan antiquefarmequipment yardape watermelon-eatin friedchicken-eatin biglipped purplegummed jigaboo mooncricket NIGGER. did you know that? well now you do.

Re:Fox news on /.? really? (1)

Singularity42 (1658297) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482422)

So right. Particularly with unions, Slashdot opposes Fox News.

Galaxy Tab has a better screen. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36482246)

See title.

Re:Galaxy Tab has a better screen. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36482586)

I'm a proud owner of the original galaxy tab and it's safe to say that even though it cost nearly $300 more than an ipad at the time (thanks to the 3G no contact model), it has slightly more uses and the market seems to be just as competitive now. I use a custom rom and the interface is also modded. I'd be happier if I could run windows 7 on it, and I'm sure there's a way... But unless there's full windows support, tablets seem rather pointless. The value of any tablet would increase significantly if they had windows and could run windows games and other apps, but instead your stuck with a library that isn't that bad but they're not that great either. I prefer the original tab over the ipad, can't say the same for the 10" version.

Re:Galaxy Tab has a better screen. (3, Funny)

clarkn0va (807617) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482912)

I'd be happier if I could run windows 7 on it, and I'm sure there's a way

It's not as hard as you think. Just take the Windows 7 source code and recompile the whole thing for ARM. Sit back and enjoy a glass of root beer and let the compiler do the rest.

fdsa (3, Funny)

smileygladhands (1909508) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482250)

Who is Clayton Morris?

Re:fdsa (4, Informative)

rotide (1015173) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482298)

Per Wikipedia:

"Clayton Morris (born December 31, 1976) is a current co-host of Fox & Friends Weekend on Fox News Channel and a former co-host of the syndicated The Daily Buzz. In addition to his work at FNC, Morris runs a media consulting company called Action Now Consultant Group. Morris has also appeared as a guest host of CNET's Podcast The 404. Morris co-hosts a weekly podcast with childhood friend, professional wrestler Mike Quackenbush called The Grizzly Bear Egg Cafe. Every Friday Morris hosts Gadgets & Games on Strategy Room on the Fox website."

In other words, a guy who has no credentials except media wanker. And he likes iPads.

Re:fdsa (3, Interesting)

PopeRatzo (965947) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482426)

Clayton Morris (born December 31, 1976) is a current co-host of Fox & Friends Weekend on Fox News Channel

Which of course makes him eminently qualified to judge technology. I certainly, for one, will henceforth base all of my technology purchases on the opinions of Mr Morris.

Morris runs a media consulting company called Action Now Consultant Group

Ah, Marketing... what hath thou wrought, goddess?

And anyone who dares to suggest that someone who is paid to use media to manage peoples' perception of things might be taking money to manage peoples' perception of things is a dirty liar, and I shall stand as Clayton Morris' champion to fight for his honour (which is almost certainly more than he's ever done).

Fox News...you've got to be fucking kidding me. What's next, Steve Jobs' picks for the top handheld devices of 2011?

Now, having gotten all that out of the way, can we please have the name of whoever selected a story for the front page of Slashdot based on the opinion of someone from Fox News' "Fox & Friends Weekend"? I would like to know who should henceforth carry the appellation, title, designation of "The Internet's Biggest Fucking Idiot, June 17, 2011".

Re:fdsa (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36482476)

An ifanatic that doesn't understand the advantages of android. Its not all about the extra fart apps you can get its the fact you can have multiple desktops, widgets, copy and paste of files and programs, more customization, stand alone system, and generally not being as locked down as apple. That all said the Samsung galaxy tab 10.1 isn't that great, acer's tablet might be a little thicker but its more functional namely usb and sd slot.

So what (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36482262)

Of all the different reviews of the 10.1 on the net why is this short, incomplete article from some-one i've never heard of so important?

Re:So what (2, Informative)

poetmatt (793785) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482416)

It's summed up more simple than that.

This is a review on Fox News. That should sum up why this isn't even a story or legitimate article. Apparently fair and biased = let's have an apple fanboy review apple's competition.

Re:So what (4, Informative)

The13thSin (1092867) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482428)

How did this even get through the Firehose? Guess there are a lot more Apple fanboys on Slashdot then I thought... Even an Engadget review [engadget.com] would've been more in-depth and useful than this one... and that's saying something...

Re:So what (1)

The13thSin (1092867) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482574)

Actually, I take that back... go through the comments on the Fox site. The ridiculous amounts of negative feedback on the review more than makes up for the review itself. This should be posted in Idle though, like the joke that it is.

Re:So what (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36482578)

Fortunately there are plenty of fandroids to counter any negative comment that might be said about anything Google does. Yep, bad review of Apple product "see, it is all marketing fluff. I knew they were only for wannabees. Why is this being reviewed at all? blah blah". Bad review of Google product, "not in depth. Written by fanboi. Doesn't understand how important blah blah".

Re:So what (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482716)

How did this even get through the Firehose?

Apple + Fox News + anti-Android == lotsa ads served.

Re:So what (1)

FrellMeDead (1367815) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482434)

Did you actually expect anything valid or anything remotely fact based when it comes from Fox "News"? For some reason certain people promote anything that comes out of Fox "News" even though it does not have any or very little factual based evidence.

Re:So what (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36482890)

Did you actually expect anything valid or anything remotely fact based when it comes from Fox "News"?

For some reason certain people promote anything that comes out of Fox "News" even though it does not have any or very little factual based evidence.

Sadly, I expect things that are remotely valid or fact based when they are served up on slashdot...

I too looked at the Fox News source and didn't even read the article.

Re:So what (1)

nomadic (141991) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482926)

Sadly, I expect things that are remotely valid or fact based when they are served up on slashdot...

No offense, but that's equally as silly as expecting fact-based information from Fox...

Re:So what (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36482582)

As for the car analogy. Why going for a half baked Hyunday if you can go for a Ford.

Terrible Review (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36482264)

My favorite part was how he said he didn't like it. I also liked how all 65,000 apps were junk. Methinks there's an apple in his pocket.

Re:Terrible Review (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36482356)

Methinks there's an apple in his pocket.

No, he's just happy to see you.

Re:Terrible Review (1)

artor3 (1344997) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482412)

You got that last sentence backwards.

Re:Terrible Review (1)

bsharp8256 (1372285) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482606)

You think there's a pocket in his apple?

Re:Terrible Review (1)

giorgist (1208992) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482820)

Nope ... try he is in Apples pocket

What a worthless review (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36482266)

Any reviewer who can say "Samsung has included about six apps of their own on top of the standard Android package. Subtract them and you're left with a bunch of shoddy applications that aren't really made for Honeycomb" and then never even discuss these apps is either a moron or an Apple fanboy. Since the review is on Fox News, I'd tend to the former. But I do tend to see this crap when ever somebody compares something to the iPad. One reviewer once said that the Blackberry pad was too small at 7" and then turned around and said another pad (I don't think it was the Tab, maybe the Zoom) was too large at 10.1". I do think Honeycomb is too soon and not ready, but these reviews are worse than useless.

Re:What a worthless review (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36482554)

You nip the useless review in the bud !
The reviewer is an asshole blindfolded

Re:What a worthless review (3, Insightful)

jamesh (87723) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482650)

is either a moron or an Apple fanboy.

... but you repeat yourself

Re:What a worthless review (1)

Dracos (107777) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482924)

...either a moron or an Apple fanboy. Since the review is on Fox News, I'd tend to the former.

In this case, the two are definitely not mutually exclusive.

iPad fanboy checking in . . . (4, Insightful)

bedouin (248624) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482280)

This article sucked even by my nuthugging standards.

Much more detailed review at Ars (5, Informative)

MBCook (132727) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482318)

Ars Technica has a much more detailed review [arstechnica.com] . All and all, it sounds like a nice device if you don't want an iPad.

The thing that struck me reading the review (and they commented on this very well) was just how much work seemed unfinished. A couple of times they mentioned "(blah blah blah) but Samsung says that will come in a future update." The amount of "it'll be here later" on the products launching lately seems horrible. How many features on the iPad were listed on the box and in the marketing material but didn't come out until a later software update? How many were there on the BlackBerry tablet? Even the Nintendo 3DS did this.

Re:Much more detailed review at Ars (4, Insightful)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482362)

It depends on how you judge them, really.

On the one hand, Apple is typically very unlikely to promise a given feature on the box and not ship it, or show of a prototype before it is already in production. If anything, they tend in the opposite direction, being as tight-lipped as possible about upcoming plans and publicly rubbishing product categories that they don't consider sufficiently mature.

On the other hand, if you observe the history of changes in iOS devices since their debut, the number of features that started out missing(including minor niceties like cut and paste, and 3rd party applications that had been around for years on other platforms) and "came in a future update" is pretty large.

Either way, Samsung is in sort of a bad spot, since playing catch-up makes what you haven't delivered yet much more galling for the potential customer.

Re:Much more detailed review at Ars (3, Insightful)

0123456 (636235) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482672)

On the other hand, if you observe the history of changes in iOS devices since their debut, the number of features that started out missing(including minor niceties like cut and paste, and 3rd party applications that had been around for years on other platforms) and "came in a future update" is pretty large.

Apple's approach seems to be to tell you that you don't need that feature and then release it later, whereas companies who can't get away with implying that their customers are idiots have to promise to release it later.

Re:Much more detailed review at Ars (1, Insightful)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482760)

Apple's approach seems to be to tell you that you don't need that feature and then release it later

Apple never says you "don't need something", they say they want to wait until they can do the feature well before they ship it.

It's better to under-promise and over-deliver, than the reverse... you'll find that's true in all sorts of things.

Re:Much more detailed review at Ars (4, Informative)

hitmark (640295) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482902)

Huh? Jobs specifically said "people do not read" as a dismissal of ebook about a year before Apple launched a ebook section of their app store.

Re:Much more detailed review at Ars (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36482420)

I other words it's a nice device if you have the intelligence of a rock. If you have the intelligence of a normal person, you will realize that the any android powered tablet, phone or any device is an inferior piece of equipment.

Re:Much more detailed review at Ars (-1, Flamebait)

SuperDre (982372) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482524)

But if you have the intelligence of a rock or higher you know to stay away from the iOS crap Apple is stuffing down your throat, so that means you're even less than a rock... you crappy applefanboy, you people would even adore it if Jobs would show you his iCrap he had after breakfast..

Re:Much more detailed review at Ars (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36482556)

Clearly you hold the intelligence of less then a rock.

Re:Much more detailed review at Ars (1)

Kangburra (911213) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482670)

Clearly you hold the intelligence of less then a rock.

Oh the irony! lol

Re:Much more detailed review at Ars (1)

artor3 (1344997) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482444)

Time to market is the number one consideration in consumer tech. Did the Windows 7 phones launch feature complete? Who knows? They were too late for anyone to notice.

Re:Much more detailed review at Ars (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36482518)

How many features on the iPad were listed on the box and in the marketing material but didn't come out until a later software update?

I would like to see an honest answer to this question. I'm an Apple user (not a fanboy, I bitch too much about them to be one of those), but I can't think of anything that was promised in Apple's marketing materials that didn't ship with the iPad 1 or 2. Apple's product boxes are notorious for having next to no features listed on them, just configuration and regulation-required text, and the iPad isn't an exception.

I know of several features, like more RAM, a front-facing camera (on the first iPad), OLED screens, landscape docking connector, etc., that were touted by rumor sites, but not from Apple itself. They're notoriously quiet about anything they haven't announced, and when they announce, they tend to still hold back.

So while I'll accept your assertion that overpromising features and shipping incomplete products are rampant problems in the industry (though I'd prefer to see more evidence), I don't see where Apple has been a part of the problem.

Re:Much more detailed review at Ars (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36482590)

From the Ars Technica review's conclusion: "The main users who will find the Tab 10.1 appealing are Android enthusiasts who like the platform's flexibility, are tightly bound to Google's Web service ecosystem, and are comfortable using Android phone applications on a 10.1-inch screen."

As much fun as running stretched phone apps on a bigger screen sounds, this doesn't strike me as that compelling of a device for the average consumer.

Re:Much more detailed review at Ars (1)

SeaFox (739806) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482928)

The amount of "it'll be here later" on the products launching lately seems horrible. How many features on the iPad were listed on the box and in the marketing material but didn't come out until a later software update? How many were there on the BlackBerry tablet? Even the Nintendo 3DS did this.

My solution to this is to simply not buy the product until the feature arrives (if it ever really does). Thankfully I am someone who can still think rationally enough to do this, unlike many people.

I'd like to get a bluray player, and there are a couple LG models I'm particularly interested in. But I also want one that supports Hulu Plus. I know support for this is "coming soon". Well, LG, as soon as the support is present and working you just email me and I'm come look at your product again.

Well, duh? (3, Informative)

Gaygirlie (1657131) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482322)

If you want an iPad-like experience then OBVIOUSLY iPad is the way to go. Vice versa, if you want an Android experience Galaxy Tab 10.1 is a very good, solid choice.

Sheer flamebait article.

Re:Well, duh? (2)

fidget42 (538823) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482644)

What do you buy if you just want a good tablet experience? Most people don't want an iPad or Android experience.

Re:Well, duh? (1)

ChunderDownunder (709234) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482808)

HP and RIM are alternatives. Whether they provide a 'good tablet experience' the market will decide.

Re:Well, duh? (2)

SoupIsGoodFood_42 (521389) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482654)

The thing is, at the moment, why would anyone want an Android experience except for diehard Android geeks?

Re:Well, duh? (3, Interesting)

TUOggy (1253848) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482938)

The thing is, at the moment, why would anyone want an Android experience except for diehard Android geeks?

There are a lot of non-Android geeks who prefer an Android tablet over an iPad, despite the bugs, and the lack of shipped features.

I bought a Xoom after it came out, and I am much happier with it than I was with the iPad. This is due to the fact that many of the websites that I visit have not been optimized for the mobile Safari, and either didn't look good, or simply didn't work at all.
One of the other things that really bothered me about the iPad was Apple's stranglehold over the App market. Yes, it is well organized and easy to use, but what if there's an app that's not there, wasn't accepted into the store for one of their many thousands of reasons they block useful apps, but the Dev is still willing to sell it? With Apple, there's no way to do this without jailbreaking your iDevice, installing Cydia, voiding your warranty, etc. With Android, you can get the app from anywhere, and easily install it without going through a store or having to break the warranty.

To me, the iPad was just an over-sized iPod Touch. It doesn't feel like a computing device at all. You can't even use it as a file storage device without downloading special apps. The Xoom feels much more like an actual computing device. I can navigate its files and folders easily. I can utilize its storage. I can use it the way I want to, and I don't have to worry about the way the manufacturer thinks I *SHOULD* be using it as is the case with the iDevices.

Having said all this, I've had an iPhone since the first one came out. I love it, but I don't consider it to be a computing device. It's just a phone with some extra features. So, consider that before you label me a diehard Android geek.

Re:Well, duh? (1)

atriusofbricia (686672) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482950)

The thing is, at the moment, why would anyone want an Android experience except for diehard Android geeks?

One word: iTunes.

Speaking for purely my circle, I know a good number of people who outright refuse to buy iAnything because of the lockdown and the iTunes requirement. Some object because they are Linux users and Apple's well known thoughts of iAnything and Linux. Others object because they don't want to drop several hundred bucks on a device and then be told how they can and cannot use it. Others just don't want the damned hassle of having to hook their tablet to their computer so iTunes can play with it.

There are some really neat apps on iOS. That said, I do not understand why people keep saying that Android is a steaming pile, or at least implying it. Though, perhaps your sig is showing your personal preferences. :)

Re:Well, duh? (5, Interesting)

AmberBlackCat (829689) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482706)

I haven't read the article and don't care to. But I'd like to note, my guy wanted to avoid the iPad and was all for Android. He tried some Viewsonic tablet. He had problems with the screen quality and the pressure-sensitive screen instead of a capacitive screen. And other general problems. Then he tried an Archos 70. He had problems with the sound and viewing angles, and some weird overheating issue. Then he got a Motorola Xoom. The memory card slot has an I-O-U on it, promising it will work one day even though the package says it has a memory card slot now. He also said it was slow to respond and had a dark screen. Finally he got an iPad. While it's not perfect, he's finally happy. All the while, his Android phone is flaking out.

So maybe the article is bad. But it is possible Apple has the best tablet, at least for some people, even if they're biased in favor of Android.

What is the "Android Experience"? (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482786)

Vice versa, if you want an Android experience Galaxy Tab 10.1 is a very good, solid choice.

What is the "Android Experience"? Since so many vendors customize it, how can you say there even is one?

Or is the "Android Experience" a euphemism for a monk-like desire for a tablet with only a browser and contacts and nothing else to distract the mind?

Clayton Morris Judged "Terrible Reviewer" (1, Funny)

ChinggisK (1133009) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482330)

"Slashdotters reviews the Clayton Morris review of the Galaxy Tab 10.1, and finds it lacking, especially at the 400-word word count, saying 'I can't in good conscience tell you to go out and spend 14 seconds on this half-baked experience when the fully baked experience can be had for just a few seconds more.'"

No, I didn't RTFA, I just read the first 10 comments on this story and felt like being a little snotty.

Re:Clayton Morris Judged "Terrible Reviewer" (0)

Kalidor (94097) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482410)

That's ok .. the article is on a Fox website. Means you probably followed the same procedure as the person who wrote it...

Re:Clayton Morris Judged "Terrible Reviewer" (1)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482440)

The most I got out of it was: It's new and missing apps. Well, Android Honeycomb tablets are relatively new. They will get more apps later as time progresses.

Re:Clayton Morris Judged "Terrible Reviewer" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36482456)

I didn't RTFA either, but let me jump on the bandwagon. WORSE. REVIEWER. EVER.

Re:Clayton Morris Judged "Terrible Reviewer" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36482526)

Well, he definitely is...

The display on the Galaxy Tab is nice, but it has a 19 x 10 widescreen -- that's great for movie hounds, but I actually find it a little weird. It makes ordinary applications just a little too stretched.

A 19 x 10 widescreen, heh.

Of course, as anyone with a brain knows, it's actually 1.6, which is only the tiniest smidgen wider than Apple's own 1.5 ratio screen (all versions of iPhone and iPod Touch), and if anything narrower than most Android apps would be designed for (16/9=1.78, 800/480=1.67).

It's also actually capable of displaying HD content (i.e. 720p) at full resolution. I suppose it is "nice", in an understated British sense that I'm quite sure he didn't mean to invoke.

It's bullshit like this that keeps tempting me to install an adblocker. On Linux, I don't really have to worry (yet) about the exploits routinely shipped through ad networks, and I'm amenable to paying a bit of bandwidth and screen space to support the sites I like. But when /. posts ludicrous flamebait, which can be for no reason but to get ad views, I feel like they're abusing my benevolence in this matter. And it's not a good feeling.

Don't feed the troll. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36482378)

Obvious troll article is obvious.

Such a lazy review I don't know where yo begin (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36482388)

One more thing for me to disagree with FOX news over. Over all his complaint is that it isn't an iPad and not running iOS. I think by now everyone buying a tablet, which is still very much an earlier adopters market, should know that you aren't going to get the same experience between an iPad and an android honeycomb tablet in terms of user interface. They are two different OSes with different approaches. Overall this review felt lazy. The main points are different OS, different screen form factor and different marketplace. Anyone who has gone to a tech site (gizmodo, engadget, ars, etc. ) in the past 6 months knows that. How about comparing the product withing the context of honeycomb tablets. Not everyone wants an iDevice and that review would be useful, but then I guess you would have to do real work. Also the comment about 65000 apps but very few good ones, shows the laziness of the article. There are plenty of good android apps, you just have to look (I think amazons new store really helps previewing apps). Also who needs a news reader app, their is a little thing on all tablets called a web browser that gives you access to any news website you want. My Xoom handles both regular and mobile web pages just fine. Going back to the main point this isn't so much of a review of a product but a fluff piece adding to the childish apple vs (microsoft, google, etc..) flame wars. I guess given there coverage of the political process it's not surprising, just disappointing.

lol (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36482398)

There's a legal saying: If you don't have the facts, attack the law. If you don't have the law, attack the facts. And if you don't have either, attack the prosecutor.

Hmm, I wonder why most of the comments here are complaining about the review or the reviewer? When there were no android tablets, /. collectively pronounced them stupid. When the android tablets came out, ./ collectively held their nose and dined on half-baked feces. Eventually, somebody (google?) will make an android tablet that isn't shit. Or the tablet fad will blow over. Until then, maybe you should maintain credibility and call the android tablets for what they are: shitty half-baked me-too devices.

Just played with one... (4, Interesting)

Reality Master 101 (179095) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482408)

Coincidentally, I was just playing with one at Best Buy today, and I have to say that it doesn't suck nearly as much as other iPad competitors. But that's somewhat damning it with faint praise. The interface is still much more sluggish and choppy than an iPad. The screen still doesn't feel nearly as precise. Given that the price is the same as the iPad, there really isn't any reason not to get an iPad, unless you really just hate Apple. Yes, it does run Flash (and the Flash ads work very well), but other than that, I didn't see anything it did that the iPad didn't do better. And they STILL haven't figured out that widescreen sucks for this form factor because it makes portrait orientation useless.

That said, it doesn't give nearly the "They have got to be kidding me with this piece of crap" feeling that previous attempts at iPad competitors give (like the Playbook, for example. My GOD what the hell were they thinking? Absolute garbage.)

Re:Just played with one... (1)

demonlapin (527802) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482454)

The screen still doesn't feel nearly as precise.

Christ, that's horrible. The iPad screen feels extremely imprecise to me; I can't imagine one that's worse.

Re:Just played with one... (1)

jedidiah (1196) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482498)

Sounds like a little fanboyism creeping in: criticize one product for the same thing you ignore in another.

I would put the main Android disadvantage in general at this point to 3rd party apps. Although stock features on Android devices tend to be better than their PhoneOS counterparts in some ways.

Re:Just played with one... (1)

Reality Master 101 (179095) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482560)

I don't know what IPad you're using, but that's one of the things that impresses me about it.

Re:Just played with one... (1)

jo42 (227475) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482696)

The iPad screen feels extremely imprecise to me

Wipe the cheesy poofs goop off of your fat stubby fingers and try again.

Re:Just played with one... (2)

PRMan (959735) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482504)

The Asus Transformer has the same IPS screen as the iPad, if you want the precision.

Re:Just played with one... (2)

Reality Master 101 (179095) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482576)

I think the issue is generally more of a software problem than an IPS problem.

Re:Just played with one... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36482692)

Ummm... IPS refers to the display, not the interface. Most tablets use a capacitive touch screen which allows for a multi-touch interface, but is not known for being increadibly accurate. This includes the iKool-aid stuff......
 

Re:Just played with one... (1)

Reality Master 101 (179095) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482714)

There's more to accuracy when you're dealing with fat fingers than the hardware.

This wasn't a hardware review (1)

brainzach (2032950) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482414)

He is just saying that Android's tablet app ecosystem sucks compared to Apple's, which is hard to argue against.

A fair review would compare hardware and how each OS performs. If the hardware and OS can compete with the iPad, it will attract the developers to give Android an experience competitive to Apple's.

Re:This wasn't a hardware review (1)

simm_s (11519) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482600)

No app developer is going to use the feature checklist as a deciding point to developing apps.The only thing that will attract developers to the platform is the ability to make money. No one has made a million dollars making software for Honeycomb (AFAIK), so until that happens it is going to be tepid developer ecosystem.

Fair & Balanced (1)

whiteboy86 (1930018) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482424)

Anybody noticed that text under their logo on that site? The review was like the very opposite..

Re:Fair & Balanced (2)

artor3 (1344997) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482486)

You must not be familiar with how Fox works. "Fair and balanced" is a slogan, not a description. Similar to how McDonald's could start calling themselves "the healthy choice", only for some reason people take Fox seriously.

Re:Fair & Balanced (2)

larry bagina (561269) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482520)

or "news for nerds" or "stuff that matters".

Who is Clayton Morris? (1)

WarpedCore (1255156) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482446)

and why is this a Slashdot story?

Re:Who is Clayton Morris? (1)

bogaboga (793279) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482478)

You hit the nail on the head because on the other hand, I bogaboga, love the device more than anything that has come from Apple. I wonder whether Slashdot will put my review up. Will it?

Better Review off the box (1)

elfranzen (930598) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482464)

I can read the specs off the box and do a better review then this. this review (if you can call it that) is based more on the software "andriod" then on the hardware.

Product placement (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36482516)

Apple has been paying Fox for product placement for years. Virtually every Fox show will have at least one Apple laptop with the logo clearly visible at some point, despite the fact that Macs make up less than 5% of personal computers. Was anyone expecting Fox to bite the hand that feeds it?

The Galaxy is thinner and ligher than the iPad and it can run Flash. That makes it better than the iPad at 99% of what the iPad is used for (browsing the web and playing videos). Who cares if it has "less apps"? Its not like the iPad had any apps when it was released. How many fart apps does your average hipster need, anyway?

Re:Product placement (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36482796)

You must have failed to notice that most studios and creative departments choose Mac's. It's just the way it is.

As to market share, here in the U.S., Macs account for about 14% of the market.

http://osxdaily.com/2011/03/18/mac-market-share-around-the-world-usa-15-canada-14-australia-14-and-more/ [osxdaily.com]

iPad experience? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36482536)

I hate when people say how good the "apps" are on iPhone/iPad. Sure it's good, but the fact that there can't be an IRC client that can stay connected 24/7 to the IRC server on iOS tells why the platform will eventually be fucked in the ass by Android. If due to some stupid platform restrictions I can't have a good IRC client on my phone, what good is it? Symbian has this, Android has this. But you can't do that in iOS. Fucking hello people this is 2011, stop praising shit.

Re:iPad experience? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36482584)

Yeah, lack of IRC is what's going to make the public at large turn away from the iPad. /s

Re:iPad experience? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36482610)

Maybe you need to tell other people to turn their wi-fi capable devices off [youtube.com] .

Re:iPad experience? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36482694)

What's an IRC?

Re:iPad experience? (1)

Celarent Darii (1561999) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482908)

Facebook chat has pretty much replaced IRC.

Sad fact, but that is the reality now. The number of people on IRC are dwindling fast.

Could you find no better negative review? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36482562)

Slashdot must have been hard pressed to find a negative review if they choose a half baked article by Mr. Nobody who seems to be a follower of the Cult of Steve. Fox is wise not to allow comments on the site itself because they would be burried. I own or have owned most Apple iProducts (typing this on an iPad) and like them all but reading drivel like this make me want to run out and try the Tab 10.1 just to be able to judge for myself.

Subtract them? (4, Interesting)

superdave80 (1226592) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482656)

FTFR:

...Samsung has included about six apps of their own on top of the standard Android package. Subtract them and you're left with a bunch of shoddy applications...

What the hell does that even mean? Why would you 'subtract them'? If they suck, say so. But to just toss out a part of the product and say what's left is bad is just moronic.

There are a bunch of other Android apps, of course -- 65,000 of them or so -- but very few quality ones, and there are very few application developers who are really sinking their teeth into this platform at this to date.

So, there are 65,000 apps, but few developers? Also, he keeps going on and on about apps, but doesn't give a single example of what is wrong with even one of those apps, or what critical apps are missing. Who let this guy on the internet?

Re:Subtract them? (1)

ChunderDownunder (709234) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482880)

Well it's one thing to complain that phone developers haven't upscaled their UIs to a Galaxy's larger dimensions. Some of this would've been necessary for iPad?

Totally insulting to label their work 'shoddy', on the other hand.

No sign of respect for the readers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36482668)

This was probably written by one in hurry to go home ... "hey boss! I completed my article, see you after weekend".
No signs of cares or respect for the readers. pure trash

deinterlace? (1)

vikisonline (1917814) | more than 3 years ago | (#36482724)

Whoever recorded that that video and posted it on the internet, doesnt know what deinterlace is. Oh well what did I expect from a tv website...

Half-bake (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36482806)

Without Flash iPad is half-bake and half working. Who in the right mind buy an iPad just for game when it already available on phone, and who would buy an iPad for surfing when you can not watching flash in Facebook or Youtube.

Re:Half-bake (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36482914)

Apparently you haven't used an iPad or iPhone lately. Facebook and Youtube work very well on the device. In fact, the 200 Million iOS device have convinced a lot of websites to have an alternative to Flash (typically HTML 5) that is just as good as the flash experience. I honestly haven't found too many sites ( less then 1%) that I really said, this would of been better on the PC with the flash version.

It's shameful Slashdot makes this pitiful news!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36482936)

Where's the editorial review for publishing news stories? this review is one of the worst ever, seems to be written by Apple PR firm!!
now I also like iPad very much, but as someone who tried out the Tab 10.1 recently, i can tell you it is pretty awesome device and presents a great challenge to Apple.
The problem is that whether this reviewer from Fox is biased or not, but Slashdot should not be re-publishing stories from such idiotic reviewers. Why not from Engadget or Ars Technica or some other more technically competent and unbiased sources? Slashdot should fire whoever decided to re-publish such sub-standard report as newsworthy story! now I question the integrity and intelligence of Slashdot, which I never did before...

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