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Best Buy Releases Their Own Music Cloud

Soulskill posted more than 3 years ago | from the johnny-come-lately dept.

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thewebblogger writes "In a move that more resembles 'me too' behavior rather than a well planned release, Best Buy has announced their own music cloud service, called simply Best Buy Music Cloud. The functionality is not complete yet; iOS / Android applications are not available at this point, and the only part that works is the Web Player. The premium version will cost $3.99/month and you'll have to upload your own music. iTunes is mandatory."

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But...I already have my own music (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36523062)

What is the fucking point?

Re:But...I already have my own music (5, Funny)

hsjserver (1826682) | more than 3 years ago | (#36523206)

Yes but for only $3.99 a month they could own your music!

Re:But...I already have my own music (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36523766)

...but I already have iPhone (latest model) and Mac (i7, latest as of 1mo. ago ) and all my CDs stored in iTunes and iPhone.
WHY would I need this? ... oh... to use another device to listen MY paid music with a fee? really?
I just plug earphones to my iPhone or Mac and listen MY music WITHOUT paying any extra (and not using up my intarwebs quota)

Thanks, but I'm NOT interested ... ...but ... check with that lady looking new computers over there...dude...not here ... over there with 2 teenagers, they may buy your non-service...

Best Buy + iTunes? (3, Insightful)

DogDude (805747) | more than 3 years ago | (#36523070)

Wow. That's like a shit sandwich. The worst retailer with the worst music software. Where do I sign up?

Re:Best Buy + iTunes? (4, Funny)

Hatta (162192) | more than 3 years ago | (#36523092)

Same place you register to vote, I'd guess.

Re:Best Buy + iTunes? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36523224)

Same place you register to vote, I'd guess.

Shit. If you're a nigger the Democrats will come to the ghetto, pick you up, and take you right to the polls and back. On the way there they will say "remember we're the ones who want to give you more welfare, more affirmative action, more entitlements by forcefully taking that money away from productive members of society so vote for us! Vote yourself more handouts so we can hurry up and break this democracy!" Same reason Democrats so badly want us to roll out the red carpet for illegal aliens. To them they're not illegal aliens, they're undocumented Democrats.

No one on welfare should ever be allowed to vote. No one collecting Social Security for any reason should ever be allowed to vote. Voting should be reserved for those who contribute.

Re:Best Buy + iTunes? (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36523348)

That's a truly brilliant plan. Only the people who contribute can vote, and, ideally, let's make the people whose votes we don't like unable to contribute. Or perhaps let's simply define `contributing' in such a way that they can't be doing so. Then... Hey, then we get to the pre-Civil Rights Act, pre-women's sufferage country we all knew and loved!

As a bonus, since they can't vote, they can't really change things so they *can* contribute! Perfect!

Oh wait, no, there's a reason we don't do shit like that. With the exception of ex-convicts, with whom we SHOULDN'T do shit like that.

Re:Best Buy + iTunes? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36523478)

That's a truly brilliant plan. Only the people who contribute can vote, and, ideally, let's make the people whose votes we don't like unable to contribute. Or perhaps let's simply define `contributing' in such a way that they can't be doing so. Then... Hey, then we get to the pre-Civil Rights Act, pre-women's sufferage country we all knew and loved!

As a bonus, since they can't vote, they can't really change things so they *can* contribute! Perfect!

Oh wait, no, there's a reason we don't do shit like that. With the exception of ex-convicts, with whom we SHOULDN'T do shit like that.

So basically your point can be re-phrased as: "everything we are doing now is great and has no disadvantages, everything that the law says is always true and always reflects the highest good and absolutely is not designed to achieve a selfish end, and you should never ever question the status quo."

Nice try but somehow I'm not convinced.

Re:Best Buy + iTunes? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36524206)

If they were contributing they wouldn't need handouts from everybody else.

Re:Best Buy + iTunes? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36523778)

No one on welfare should ever be allowed to vote. No one collecting Social Security for any reason should ever be allowed to vote. Voting should be reserved for those who contribute.

So you're saying most Tea Partiers shouldn't be allowed to vote?

Re:Best Buy + iTunes? (2)

gmhowell (26755) | more than 3 years ago | (#36523434)

Same place you register to vote, I'd guess.

But I don't want the shit sandwich that Best Buy is offering. I'd prefer a giant douche.

Re:Best Buy + iTunes? (2)

geminidomino (614729) | more than 3 years ago | (#36523486)

I'd prefer a giant douche.

My friend, allow me to introduce you to iCloud.

Re:Best Buy + iTunes? (1)

gmhowell (26755) | more than 2 years ago | (#36523694)

I'd prefer a giant douche.

My friend, allow me to introduce you to iCloud.

The iCloud has water AND vinegar rain!

Re:Best Buy + iTunes? (2)

retchdog (1319261) | more than 3 years ago | (#36523124)

apart from not recognizing non-ipods (but a third-party utility adds MSC support), itunes is the best music software i've ever used. it absolutely kills rhythmbox, banshee and amarok, sad to say. i base this on not crashing; fast search/limiting and playlist creation; actually editing track information on the mp3 and not storing it in a parallel database in a ~/.directory (rhythmbox); and not requiring fucking SQL (amarok).

Re:Best Buy + iTunes? (2)

DeadlyMind (1865616) | more than 3 years ago | (#36523140)

Media Monkey is so much better. Fuck iTunes.

Re:Best Buy + iTunes? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36523188)

Agreed. Anything other than iTunes beats iTunes. It's a proprietary piece of crap that doesn't work with anything I use.

Re:Best Buy + iTunes? (1)

furgle (1825812) | more than 3 years ago | (#36523320)

I've never had problems playing anything in itunes and I run it on Windows. I don't particularly like itunes, but I don't hate it. I'm entrenched into using itunes more or less because that is what I thought I needed for audio books. 2 years later it seems to me far to much effort to change to something else. My only real complaint with itunes is the one download policy- buy music and you only have one chance to download it. - that seems the worst of it though. I have read a fair bit of comments saying that itunes is crap. But to me its much like windows vista, yes it has some annoying features, but with some configuring they are all but gone, and with some time you end up used to how it performs.

Re:Best Buy + iTunes? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36523400)

That's not really a problem anymore with iCloud support, except with TV shows/movies.

Re:Best Buy + iTunes? (1)

Dahamma (304068) | more than 3 years ago | (#36523438)

I do use iTunes because I have an iPhone... but I'd hate it a lot less if it would stop overwriting all of my media file associations even after I click everything possible in the installer to tell it not to...

Re:Best Buy + iTunes? (1)

furgle (1825812) | more than 2 years ago | (#36523624)

I'd like it a lot better if after every update I didn't have to replace all of its shortcuts. Frankly I find that just confusing.

Re:Best Buy + iTunes? (1)

darrylo (97569) | more than 2 years ago | (#36523798)

I don't know if this is a fluke, but my old shortcut continued to work after upgrading to the latest (windows) iTunes (well, the icon was missing/defaulted, but double-clicking on the old shortcut started iTunes). I was pleasantly surprised.

Re:Best Buy + iTunes? (1)

Chelloveck (14643) | more than 3 years ago | (#36523372)

Aye. MediaMonkey rocks. I just wish it was available for the Mac. It runs under Wine, but it's not very happy doing so.

Re:Best Buy + iTunes? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36523836)

aye but the flowers are pretty in that garden are they not?

Re:Best Buy + iTunes? (1)

McNihil (612243) | more than 3 years ago | (#36523240)

Having gone from Rhythmbox to iTunes earlier this year I can wholeheartedly say that iTunes sucks donkey rocks in comparison. For instance, Where the hell is a simple play queue? Nothing more severe than ad-hoc play queue... no temporary playlists please. There are more small grating and annoying things... oh yeah not being able to fully read the id3 tags and it ends up selecting the one that is botched and not the full and correct one like Rhythmbox.

Sure I am speaking from a POV where I most likely will not buy new music because I have plenty of good music to listen to already and have no time to spend finding something that is AAA across the board so that it doesn't waste my time.

BTW: iTunes does use a form of SQL'sh datastore but it is stored in XML format... there are even perl scripts for it. And really why should we care how it stores its data?

Re:Best Buy + iTunes? (1)

retchdog (1319261) | more than 2 years ago | (#36523568)

everything stores data somehow. i just think mySQL is a heavy dependency for a freaking music player.

it looks like our desiderata in music players are orthogonal, fair enough. if you haven't tried it, though, i suggest banshee. it seemed to me to be rhythmbox "done right".

Re:Best Buy + iTunes? (1)

ZorinLynx (31751) | more than 2 years ago | (#36523592)

>For instance, Where the hell is a simple play queue? Nothing more severe than ad-hoc play queue... no temporary playlists please.

My gods, try using the software for more than five minutes before criticizing it. It's under iTunes DJ.

I haven't run into the other issues you had, but simply HAD to advise you on this one because it's so obvious you didn't poke around the software very much!

Re:Best Buy + iTunes? (2)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 3 years ago | (#36523252)

Does the use of SQL(by default, transparently handled by a built-in SQLite implementation, optionally usable against a separate SQL backend for higher performance or multiple-computer-access setups) really bother you that much? More to the point, how is that different from iTunes' metadata [apple.com] storage, except for the whole "being comparatively standard" and "being optionally compatible with more powerful backend databases" stuff?

Re:Best Buy + iTunes? (1)

retchdog (1319261) | more than 2 years ago | (#36523588)

in my experience, it pulled in mySQL as a dependency. this link seems to suggest that they took out the built-in SQLite (which would have been fine by me): http://amarok.kde.org/blog/archives/812-MySQL-in-Amarok-2-The-Reality.html [kde.org]

i can see how amarok's power could be useful if you have audio on network shares or something. i don't and amarok was slow, buggy and ugly to me. i chalked this up to mySQL, maybe i was wrong.

Oh well, Kharma to burn (2)

rsilvergun (571051) | more than 3 years ago | (#36523314)

but I'll say this: Zune is iTunes without the bloat. The hardware might be a joke (Brown? Sign me Up!) but the software is fast, stable as a rock, and doesn't get between me and my music. I really can't explain it. It's just a pity Microsoft flubbed the hardware so bad.

Re:Oh well, Kharma to burn (1)

geminidomino (614729) | more than 2 years ago | (#36523538)

Does the Zune support iPods?

I'm not being facetious. I used to use GtkPod on Linux but now that I'm using Windows 7[0], I'm pretty desperate for something that doesn't suck.

[0] Yeah, yeah, I know. But now that all the DEs seem to be adopting Apple's design strategy of getting in the user's way as often and as irritatingly as possible, windows is actually easier to get work done in. How messed up is THAT?

Re:Oh well, Kharma to burn (1)

thehodapp (1931332) | more than 2 years ago | (#36524330)

Does the Zune support iPods?

What are you smoking?

Re:Oh well, Kharma to burn (1)

retchdog (1319261) | more than 2 years ago | (#36523612)

i like earth tones in general and i really dig the brown! however i won't buy an mp3 player that doesn't mount as usb storage (as i understand the zune and latest ipods don't?), and i don't carry much music. i'm using an 8gb sansa fuze & it works great.

Re:Oh well, Kharma to burn (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36523674)

As a first time zune owner of the new-ish zune hd, I have fallen in love with the zune software and hardware. Perhaps the first gen players were lacking but I cannot find anything wrong with my new zune. Incredibly good audio quality, interface is also fantastic compared to any other mobile device I have ever laid hands on and the battery life is also great.

I guess the only thing I would change is the charging/syncing port. Why couldn't we have mini/micro usb please?

Re:Oh well, Kharma to burn (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36523980)

It's just a pity Microsoft flubbed the hardware so bad.

what's wrong with the zune hardware?

Re:Best Buy + iTunes? (1)

bluemonq (812827) | more than 3 years ago | (#36523384)

I don't know if we're using different versions or what, because I have the exact opposite experience with "not crashing" and "fast search". I don't suppose you're using it on a Mac?

Re:Best Buy + iTunes? (1)

retchdog (1319261) | more than 2 years ago | (#36523598)

yeah, the latest pre-thunderbolt MBP (Snow Leopard).

Re:Best Buy + iTunes? (1)

LordLimecat (1103839) | more than 2 years ago | (#36523560)

Yea, itunes is OK... when its not locking up and crashing and generally acting like playing music is a difficult task.

Re:Best Buy + iTunes? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36523636)

As I understand it, iTunes uses SQLite internally. The XML file that's on disk is just there as a means for third parties to read a subset of what iTunes has on disk.

Re:Best Buy + iTunes? (1)

retchdog (1319261) | more than 2 years ago | (#36523654)

hmm, you may be right. okay, i take back the SQL thing, but something made amarok really slow and buggy when it came to keeping track of my music (all of which was just in ~/Music!)... i just chalked it up to SQL since it seemed so strange to me.

Re:Best Buy + iTunes? (2)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 2 years ago | (#36523900)

If you are using iTunes on anything other than OS-X, it sucks. First off, it is slower than crap, the store barely works (why does it take longer to "process" a media file than it does to download it online) and is generally a pain to work with.

On Windows FooBar2000 kicks the crap out of iTunes. On Linux, both rhythmbox and amarok work just fine for me and VLC is king for playing single files.

Re:Best Buy + iTunes? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36523910)

iTunes cannot handle large (10,000+ track) music libraries.

Re:Best Buy + iTunes? (1)

retchdog (1319261) | more than 2 years ago | (#36523934)

having no problem yet with 10694 tracks.

Re:Best Buy + iTunes? (1)

FunkSoulBrother (140893) | more than 2 years ago | (#36524050)

Then why in bloody hell can't I drag and drop music from iTunes to my iPhone? I though apple was all about drag and drop.

Re:Best Buy + iTunes? (1)

secretsquirel (805445) | more than 2 years ago | (#36524246)

i can use SQL with amarok? sweet

Re:Best Buy + iTunes? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36523162)

Wow. That's like a shit sandwich. The worst retailer with the worst music software. Where do I sign up?

Where else? At the Geek Squad counter, where a wide variety of mouth-watering shit sandwiches can be had for a nominal fee.

Hmm ... (2)

Krishnoid (984597) | more than 2 years ago | (#36523502)

Best Buy Releases Their Own Music Cloud

I thought something smelled funny.

Re:Best Buy + iTunes? (1)

aristotle-dude (626586) | more than 2 years ago | (#36524036)

I don't know how the hell you got modded insightful. I've never had any issue with Best Buy and I never had any problem with iTunes either at home on Snow Leopard or on Windows 7 at work. Maybe you have a shitty PC with not enough RAM and too much bloatware running in the background.

Do you obsessively look at how much ram a program uses? I judge programs based on more than one criteria and as long as the software is responsive then it is not using too many resources.

In 10 years time people will be saying.. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36523120)

.."remember the old days when we listened to music straight from CDs or harddrive/flashdrive mp3 players?"

I really don't see the attraction of cloud stored music because it means you have to have an internet capable device to listen to the music on - bloody pointless when you're cycling or driving, sure you could have a GPRS type internet device but that means wireless reception and monthly cellphone plan payments. Fuck that, my mp3 player doesn't need wifi or montly payments, it just WORKS.

Re:In 10 years time people will be saying.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36523194)

The benefit is that no matter where I am I can listen to all my music and not take up space on an additional hard drive or SD card. All my music is on Google Music. Work computer can access it, and my Droid can access it. So when I'm at work I can listen to music without putting music on the hard drive which I am forbidden to do, or when I'm in the backyard and want to listen to any of my music I can pick what I want instead of running back into the house and loading the songs onto my Droid.

Re:In 10 years time people will be saying.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36523440)

Fuck off astroturfer

Re:In 10 years time people will be saying.. (3, Insightful)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 2 years ago | (#36523958)

Right, and in a day where flash memory is dirt cheap, accessing the web on a device is getting harder and harder to do (no more cell phone unlimited data, fewer unsecured wi-fi hotspots) and you can get streaming music for free (Pandora, Last.Fm, YouTube, Shoutcast, etc.), why does it make sense for you to pay $4 to access your own music?

Perhaps 5 years ago "the cloud" might have made sense back when 2 GB SD cards were still $50-60, unsecured Wi-Fi was incredibly common and data plans were unlimited, but today with dirt cheap flash media prices with enough storage to hold lots of songs it really makes no sense.

Re:In 10 years time people will be saying.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36523198)

That's the point, apple will phase out the older classic ipod in favor of there new ipod touch. They don't like the older version for a variety of reasons, mostly not a lot of app sales and no wifi make it pretty useless with iCloud. Hopefully this cloud hoopla will die out as marketing depts grind it into the ground.

Re:In 10 years time people will be saying.. (1)

geminidomino (614729) | more than 2 years ago | (#36523606)

Shit. I hope my iPod Classic lasts a while longer yet, then. I bought it because it was the last hard-drive-based MP3 player (as opposed to "Portable media players" which tended to have big screens, loads of features I don't need in an audio player, even compared to the ipod, and cost twice as much) I could find, other than the Zune.

Re:In 10 years time people will be saying.. (3, Insightful)

mlts (1038732) | more than 2 years ago | (#36523818)

Bingo. A few years back, we had some decent choices for a MP3 player with a decent capacity, from the Zune, to many others. Drivers? Plug it in, it mounts as a USB flash drive, copy files, unmount, and call it done.

Now, there are no real MP3 players with any capacity beyond like 6 gig, and the only MP3 player with 100+ gigs of capacity is the iPod Classic.

Of course, like described above, there are the "portable media players", but if I want to watch video on my MP3 player, I would buy a Galaxy Tab, iPad, or an iPod Touch. There is a market niche for this type of device -- just audio and a high capacity HDD. I just hope Apple doesn't can their iPod Classic anytime soon.

Re:In 10 years time people will be saying.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36524166)

Yes! iPod classic 120 GB (about 3/4 filled) and I'm happy as a clam. 900ish full records I can listen to anytime, anywhere. Almost everyone I know looks down on it until they want to listen to "that album" whilst riding through the boonies. Then it becomes the best device on Earth.. I hate people :)

Gonna start my own (1)

Zomalaja (1324199) | more than 3 years ago | (#36523164)

I think I'll call it GeekMP3Squad.com

Re:Gonna start my own (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36523774)

I'm going to start my own too; never have to download music ever again, it's all being uploaded for me! Needless to say as the administrator I have access to all files and need to errr.... "ensure the quality of the listening experience".

well... (1)

nickb64 (1885128) | more than 3 years ago | (#36523166)

that's fuckin' useless. wow...

Me too! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36523176)

I too have set up a cloud music service, except mine is 100% free. For the first step, please upload your songs to my server. This is going to save me so much time looking for songs with bittorrent!

It makes perfect sense (1)

hsjserver (1826682) | more than 3 years ago | (#36523184)

Think about it: Physical media (hard drives/flash) is cheap, consumers have been using it for years, data on phones is getting shittier, caps are becoming more common, and the internet and electricity never go out. WE SHOULD CHARGE PEOPLE TO HOLD ON TO THEIR MUSIC!

Re:It makes perfect sense (3, Informative)

SomePgmr (2021234) | more than 3 years ago | (#36523200)

There are various good arguments for "cloud storage", but this service exemplifies none of them.

Kinda silly (1)

m.dillon (147925) | more than 3 years ago | (#36523222)

It's not even worth writing a long essay about. Oooooh, it's 'the cloud', by which they mean it's just a client/server model like most of the internet already resembles. Sheesh.

-Matt

Re:Kinda silly (5, Funny)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 3 years ago | (#36523344)

"Client/server" is some 70's academic hippie crap. We prefer to think of it as the "Consumer/Premium Content Provider" model. In the near future, we have high hopes for the "Serf/Lord" model. -RIAA

Trendy (1)

betterunixthanunix (980855) | more than 3 years ago | (#36523230)

All the cool kids are doing it now?

Business strategy (5, Insightful)

Albanach (527650) | more than 3 years ago | (#36523256)

This sounds a lot like a way to add on a $3.99 recurring charge to new PC sales for Best Buy. I'd expect to see them pushing this heavily in store with new computer sales, and a lot of folk buying it then never using it. Allow cancelling only by telephone and only after waiting 20 minutes in a phone queue and that should keep their retention rate nice and high.

Re:Business strategy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36523718)

I have a simple solution, I try not to sit foot in a Best Buy. I was given a gift certificate so I tried their "Geek Squad" when I had a computer go down. Hey they had testing equipment so I thought maybe they could narrow my search for what was wrong. They claimed it was a hard drive issue when I knew it wasn't I also knew if I let them fix my "hard drive issue" when it still didn't work they'd claim the hard drive was defective but gee there were other problems. They prey on people that don't know any better, it's their business model. If 10% of the people are stupid enough to not cancel the service then they get $3.99 a month from 10% of the people buying new computers. They are ripping off customers but it's money in the bank. The fact they still have their door open proves there are a lot of stupid people out there.

sounds stupid (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36523268)

4 bucks a month to listen to music I ALREADY PAID FOR.

but then... what do you expect from best buy... best buy sucks

Didn't MP3.com get sued into oblivion for this? (1)

rsilvergun (571051) | more than 3 years ago | (#36523326)

just askin'. I don't see how this'll work. Plus I'm bitter. I really, really miss MP3.com :(.

Re:Didn't MP3.com get sued into oblivion for this? (2)

larry bagina (561269) | more than 3 years ago | (#36523480)

Not exactly.

The BestBuy/Google model is to upload all your music. No different than if you copied the mp3 files to a drop box account or an external hard drive (though the RIAA may see it differently).

The MP3.com model is to gracenote your CD and unlock access to their rip of it.

The iTunes Match model is similar to the MP3.com model but you can upload songs they don't have and (more importantly) THE RECORD COMPANIES ALL AGREED TO IT BEFOREHAND.

There's also the amazon model which is to similar to the mp3.com model, but only for mp3s you purchased on amazon. The RIAA may not like that.

Re:Didn't MP3.com get sued into oblivion for this? (1)

mlts (1038732) | more than 2 years ago | (#36523842)

It really boils down to who had the deeper pockets. mp3.com was just a spot on the RIAA's shoe, while Google, Amazon, or Apple would actually give them a run for their money.

I wish mp3.com didn't go with the locker service... it was a great site for finding new bands... and there isn't really much in that department nowadays, other than last.fm and Pandora. It would be nice to have a site with a decent metal selection that doesn't have the same warmed over top 100 artists, and proper sub-genres.

amen brother (1)

decora (1710862) | more than 2 years ago | (#36523986)

when they nuked mp3.com i couldn't believe it. all that work, erased, for no reason.

i have found some really great stuff on last.fm though.

Not really.. (2)

rsilvergun (571051) | more than 2 years ago | (#36524048)

there was a great reason. MP3.com was getting people to listen to music they liked, instead of top 40 crap. It was splintering the music market by connecting artists directly with their fans. One of the first things the record labels did when they got the domain was shut down anyone that was making a good living without a record contract. There were several bands that got taken off the site with no notice or reason. In the end, it's all about control of our pop culture. The grandparent said it best: "he same warmed over top 100 artists".

Dead on Arrival! (3, Interesting)

bogaboga (793279) | more than 3 years ago | (#36523338)

I have an ill feeling that Best Buy's service will be dead on arrival. They made its death even more certain buy requiring iTunes.

This poses the question, 'Why should one abandon Apple/iTunes/iCloud for this seemingly [half baked] product?'

Re:Dead on Arrival! (3, Insightful)

c0lo (1497653) | more than 2 years ago | (#36523944)

Zombie on arrival. It will be included in the crapware installed on every computer the "innocent" people buy from them and the opt-out will be painful.

Aint No Amazon.... (1)

sunfly (1248694) | more than 3 years ago | (#36523356)

Best Buy aint no Amazon... let the death countdown begin.

So Basically.... (1)

flimflammer (956759) | more than 3 years ago | (#36523368)

This is basically $3.99/month to merely host your music away from your home, but with weird terms like mandatory iTunes.

What the hell is the point? They were definitely right when they suggested it's more of a "me too" service than something properly thought out.

licensing deal? (1)

yodleboy (982200) | more than 3 years ago | (#36523416)

the weird mandatory iTunes requirement makes me wonder if this is something Apple is offering to retailers as a service. It seems strange that Best Buy would even want to take on the infrastructure side of this themselves, from scratch. I wonder just how much of that $3.99 a month goes to Apple? The benefit to Apple would be obvious, a major retailer pushing iTunes to customers. I suppose Best Buy gets to have a trendy feature to sell to people that don't know they don't need the Geek Squad to pimp their online deals.

just what we need more up sells from the geeks and (1)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | more than 3 years ago | (#36523466)

just what we need more up sells from the geeks and blue shirts.

Re:just what we need more up sells from the geeks (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36523566)

Meh. If you need an external hard drive and an automatic backup, I'm going to sell you the hard drive, and I'm going to charge you for setting it up, as it takes time out of my day.

Don't like it? Learn how to set it up yourself, or have a geeky friend.

I'm tired of this shit. If you don't know how to rotate your tires, you pay for someone to do it. If you don't know how to set up AV software, you pay for someone to do it.

seriously? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36523796)

are you retarded or an astroturfer?

a 99$ external hd is usb 2.0. what is so hard about setting that up? it usually loads software that does very easy backup. don't act like you have some tech skills here. you are so not needed for anything it's a wonder that you even posted this. you smug little shit, a large portion of people here can write their OWN backup software if they wanted to. something that is very unlikely you can do if you think backing up to an external drive with preloaded--IDIOT PROOF software is somehow a service you are providing. so please keep the time of your day, and yourself to yourself.

then you jump from hard drives to cars--yes rotating tires is easy, and do not even mention av setup, since there are several kinds of this, your big box store doesnt have a clue they exist

I think the above poster was not showing displeasure at having to install things themselves, but actually talking about disliking assholes like you. I bet your tune is MUCH different at your shitty bestbuy job, where you do everything you can to charge for unneeded labor. notice he said UP SELLS you fucking moron

tell me my tires went bad, sell me 4 new ones (1)

decora (1710862) | more than 2 years ago | (#36524010)

if you ran a tire-rotation place like best buy runs its computer desk, youd be thrown in prison for fraud.

they tell you 'bring it in for any reason', they upsell a warranty, and a bunch of shitty antivirus.

then what do they do when you get viruses? they charge you another 150 bucks.

if someone sold you tires with an extended warranty and they said 'here, here is a thing to make your tires puncture proof' for another upsell, and then you got a flat on your way home, and you went back and they made you buy all new tires.. yeah.

ObJuvenileHumor (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36523520)

Best Buy frequently releases clouds, but the smell doesn't remind me of music.

Nice logo (1)

SignOfZeta (907092) | more than 2 years ago | (#36523534)

Looks like the MobileMe logo went up for auction and Best Buy won it. I wonder if Apple cares enough to bother sending out a lawyer or two.

Cloud? (1)

blattin (1335585) | more than 2 years ago | (#36523690)

I think it's called fog when it sinks.

What's the point? (1)

FSWKU (551325) | more than 2 years ago | (#36523716)

Maybe I'm just behind the times, but I honestly don't understand the point of these "cloud services" for things such as music. I have a Dropbox account, but I use that for tossing files to friends without the hassle of running an Apache daemon, setting up an FTP, or choking an email server with large attachments. I don't understand the need to have my entire collection available across every device I might possibly want to use.

But that brings up another issue. If this is anything like iCloud, there's going to be a 5gb or so limit. I don't have a huge amount of music, but it far outstrips that paltry offering. But in reality I don't WANT all my music with me at any given time. My MP3 player is used for running. It's a 4gb model, and every song I could possibly want while working out is already on there. I don't need to synch more. My phone has 12gb of memory built-in, and I stuck a 16gb MicroSDHC card in there as well. Even with tons of apps and videos, there's still enough space for the vast majority of my music collection if I wanted to take it with me.

So what, again, is the point of synching to some cloud under someone else's control, when I can just plug a USB cable in for a few seconds if there's a song I REALLY need to put on either device? And that's saying nothing about how Best Buy will probably butcher it into uselessness just like everything else they've gotten their hands on...

Re:What's the point? (2)

Osgeld (1900440) | more than 2 years ago | (#36523860)

its so normal people have an ftp account

Sooooo... (1)

DurendalMac (736637) | more than 2 years ago | (#36523726)

Music cloud service that requires iTunes. Gee, so does iCloud, and it doesn't cost you a damned cent, and even if you get the iTunes match service, it's STILL cheaper than this! You could say that Android users would go for it, but there are already better services there, too, and what goddamned Android user is actually using iTunes?

Why use cloud for music? (1)

NeoMorphy (576507) | more than 2 years ago | (#36523764)

This is stupid!

Now that Verizon is stopping unlimited data, why would you be so stupid to blast through your limit by storing your music in the cloud? My Droid X has a 16GB sdcard, unless I go crazy that's plenty of room for my music, and if it wasn't I can upgrade to 32GB.

The cloud is dead for music, why are companies too slow to understand this?

Re:Why use cloud for music? (1)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 2 years ago | (#36523988)

Exactly, 5 years ago with unlimited data plans, expensive flash memory (if I remember correctly my 2 GB Micro-SD card cost me about $50+ about 5 years ago) and unsecured wi-fi putting things on "the cloud" might have made sense. But today? It doesn't work.

"The Cloud" works if storage is expensive and bandwidth is cheap. Today, storage is cheap and bandwidth is expensive.

Re:Why use cloud for music? (1)

icebike (68054) | more than 2 years ago | (#36524348)

Just because you put it there, doesn't mean you have to play it from there.
Wifi is dirt cheap. Put your stuff on the cloud and sync it to ALL your devices on wifi.

I'm seeing a trend here (no, not the obvious one) (1)

initialE (758110) | more than 2 years ago | (#36523802)

When Apple came knocking on doors peddling their ITMS music store, they learned something the hard way - every country needed to be dealt with individually, with every distributor from each country having their own agreement to sign. Result - ITMS is still not available here (Singapore). By having the user upload their own music, it could be a sign of frustration at dealing with the music distribution channels and attempting to bypass them altogether.

But, do they offer a warranty with that? (1)

tji (74570) | more than 2 years ago | (#36523832)

I hope they offer some sort of product replacement plan, so that if anything happens to my mp3 they'll give me the latest model of the bits as a replacement. That would really set them apart from Apple.

There IS an android client (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36523840)

If the submitter would have gone to the site hosted by best buy they would have seen that there is already an android client. This can be confirmed by searching for it in the android market. I know people here love to hate on best buy but seriously get your facts straight.

Re:There IS an android client (1)

Osgeld (1900440) | more than 2 years ago | (#36523882)

but who really cares

the modern business plan... (1)

ThomasBHardy (827616) | more than 2 years ago | (#36523892)

Step 1) make a cloud service Step 2) .... Step 3) Profit!!

holy shit this is terrible (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36523928)

phrases like shit sandwich don"t even begin to describe this.

the only good thing from this whole mess is the surprisingly good writeup on the bbuymobile site. how dude managed to pull this off, I'm not sure, but kudos.

guess itunes is well known here. lockdown can be avoided with ephod etc, if you even have an ipod.

but the real stinker? you have to upload your own music, and the free service only lets you listen to 30 seconds of it, until you pay them.

this really begs the question, who in their right fucking mind would ever go for this? and how is it even called competitive with apple et al when it uses itunesTM? apple could easily sue them into next week. this seems more likely to happen sooner than later, since apple has also announced their own cloud fantasy. at least they use md5 hashes, and people were saying epic fail if you have to upload your tunes to it. now BB has actually done it. humiliation.

this past week has been total shit in /. tech news. it's official: americans (getting over being hooked on coke, crack, heroin, wars and phonics buzzwords) are now totally nuts. it's anon/lulzec riding on a cloud raining bitcoins down on everyone.

in a way it is a fitting buzzword, but it will not take long for the sun to slice through this vaporware, and once the fog has lifted we will people waxing smart about how the cloud was doomed to fail. not since the cookie have the biggest dipshits out there been able to wave their hands and sound smart when talking about something--dont ya know, it's like a cloud man...

what is the real question is the repetitive, crappy news that seems like advertising; does /. now sell ad as article/news by the week? it's the same old apple/MS, bestbuy sucks, kurzweil is a prohpet bullshit for years now.

whats next? a social media slashcloud?

Sorry for stating the obvious here... (3, Funny)

sootman (158191) | more than 2 years ago | (#36523938)

... but it requires iTunes (same as iCloud) AND it's slower (you've got to upload all your music) AND it costs about twice as much ($47.88/year vs. $25) AND it comes from a (I'll be kind here) not especially well-regarded company, as opposed to one that scores very highly in just about every customer satisfaction rating there is?

what
the
holy
fuck?

Seriously, I can't say anything else but "what are they thinking?!?" This is obviously nothing more than a blind money grab and I can't see it possibly working out for them. Or lasting very long. In the meantime, I'd recommend not buying any computers at Best Buy--I think they'll wire a car battery to your nuts with alligator clamps until you sign up for this.

Re:Sorry for stating the obvious here... (2)

icebike (68054) | more than 2 years ago | (#36524328)

... but it requires iTunes (same as iCloud) AND it's slower (you've got to upload all your music) AND it costs about twice as much ($47.88/year vs. $25) AND it comes from a (I'll be kind here) not especially well-regarded company, as opposed to one that scores very highly in just about every customer satisfaction rating there is?

Ah, but on the other side of the coin,...

If Apple, and Amazon, and Google, and Best Buy and who-ever-is-next can set up music cloud services it says the death grip
of the music industry is essentially broken. The cat is out of the bag and they will never re-establish the level of control they
once had.

Uploading isn't all that bad with Amazon or Google. Chews up bandwidth, but its Step One. Step Two will follow
soon. Then they will just SAMPLE your music files like Shazam, and make a database entry on their cloud saying yes, Sootman owns that
song, add it to his cloud library, and let him download it to any device he wants.

RIAA is having conniptions as we speak.

So hooray for the lame cloud services breeding like rabbits. Too many for them to attack.

This is one of those things... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36524350)

that I will see as useless and will find it amazing at the number of times I see this software installed.

Umm... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36524380)

WTF is a music cloud ?

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