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178 comments

wow (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36571748)

Looks like she thought she was employed by the TSA.

Re:wow (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36572020)

Looks like she thought she was employed by the TSA.

Cops vs Smurfs. Whoever loses, we win.

On one hand, the only reason she was arrested is because TSOs aren't law enforcement officers. The blue wall of silence (standard practice whereby so-called "good cops" cover up for the misdeeds of bad cops) doesn't apply.

On the other hand, part of me thinks the TSA just hates competition.

On balance, good job, TSA. You've caught your first criminal in what, a decade? Congrats. Totally not worth the expense and hassle, but congrats anyways on doing the right thing.

Re:wow (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36572082)

On balance, good job, TSA. You've caught your first criminal in what, a decade? Congrats.

Premature celebration. The TSA didn't even catch her. It was the Miami PD.

Re:wow (2)

mkiwi (585287) | about 3 years ago | (#36573484)

Now if only Rockstar would come out with Grand Theft iPad: Miami

Re:wow (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36573312)

first criminal in what, a decade

[citation needed]

Re:wow (1)

Ihmhi (1206036) | about 3 years ago | (#36572576)

TSA agents were quoted as saying, "Stop right there, criminal scum!"

As Nelson Muntz would say (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36571756)

HA HA.

News for nerds (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36571758)

stuff that matters
*sigh*

Re:News for nerds (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36571910)

But it is something that matter!

It speaks about how even low IQ people crave for the single most innovative and powerful device thats bound to rewrite the complete history of computational devices. Obama farts? It's news if he have an iPad in his hand in the moment. Nuclear power plant flooding, is not news because nuclear power plants don't make/use iPads. Get with the program.

Re:News for nerds (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36572350)

But it is something that matter!

It speaks about how even low IQ people crave things that are shiney.

There, fixed that for you.

Re:News for nerds (4, Insightful)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | about 3 years ago | (#36573436)

It speaks about how even low IQ people crave for the single most innovative and powerful device thats bound to rewrite the complete history of computational devices. Obama farts? It's news if he have an iPad in his hand in the moment. Nuclear power plant flooding, is not news because nuclear power plants don't make/use iPads. Get with the program.

It also matters for anybody who travels with electronic devices. The TSA requires you to take your laptop (and tablet) out of your bag and put it on a little tray, out in the open and all by itself, to go through XRAY. Then you have to go through the scanner, so you're separated from your goods for a bit. I'm all for poo-poo'ing an obvious appeal to fanboism for link-bait, but you don't really think that's something important to know?

Okay, here's how it matters for iPad owners:

- You'll lose sight of it.
- Activate the 'find' feature.
- Don't go to airplane mode until you're on the flight.

And for non iPad owners, but owners of other tablets or laptops...

- You'll lose sight of your gadget.
- Encrypt your device.
- You should see if there's a built in GPS that can phone home.

Again, I'm annoyed with Slashdot's use of Apple stories to serve ads, but I just flew recently and I think there's definitely a lot of 'it matters' here to discuss. I'm lucky in that my iPad didn't walk away from me during the security screening. I wasn't too worried about it because it's the cellular version and I have the 'find me' option activated on it. I didn't realize this until this article came about, but I put the iPad on Airplane Mode before we went through security. That was dumb Dumb DUMB of me! The 'find me' option wouldn't work!

This thread could easily be salvaged.

Re:News for nerds (1)

SniperJoe (1984152) | about 3 years ago | (#36573940)

You know that you don't have to take your iPad out of your bag when you go through security right?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ytech_gadg/20100407/tc_ytech_gadg/ytech_gadg_tc1503 [yahoo.com]

I've flown with mine in my bag numerous times and I've never had an issue.

Re:News for nerds (2)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | about 3 years ago | (#36574096)

No doubt you're right, but I'm not confident the people they hire to run those checkpoints are fully up to speed.

Re:News for nerds (3, Insightful)

Eightbitgnosis (1571875) | about 3 years ago | (#36572200)

Well, Slashdotters generally do not like the TSA and are interested in Ipads. So this is really a two for one story for the nerd community

Re:News for nerds (3, Insightful)

Stargoat (658863) | about 3 years ago | (#36572816)

Show me a /.er that likes TSA, and I'll show you someone who doesn't belong here.

Distrust of government is associated with competence, technical or otherwise. And most of the folks on /. are people who are competent. Competent and or self-reliant people do not feel the need for government to protect them from themselves or imaginary threats. The competent person is capable of feeding and housing himself. He is capable of defending himself as well, when given the opportunity (not disarmed).

TSA is obviously abusing the 4th Amendment, morality, and good plain sense. TSA (and DoHS) is bad government. TSA needs to be eliminated and its duties returned to the airports. DoHS needs to be eliminated and its duties returned to the Treasury Department.

Re:News for nerds (2)

interkin3tic (1469267) | about 3 years ago | (#36572960)

And most of the folks on /. are people who are competent. Competent and or self-reliant people do not feel the need for government to protect them from themselves or imaginary threats.

Imaginary threats, yes, but competence and self-reliance alone won't get you to realize that foreign terrorism is an imaginary threat. Most competent people I know don't care too much about it, it's an inconvenience when they want to fly somewhere, and if they're not busy thinking of other things, they might realize the line they're in to go through security is more vulnerable and has more bodies in it than the plane would. Even many of the incompetents I know laugh about fingernail clippers being banned. Still, that doesn't automatically translate into a realization that "TSA is just wasting time and taxes."

And if you don't get to the realization that it's an imaginary threat, there's nothing illogical about wanting the government to deal with it.

How The Fuck Is This News For Nerds????? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36571760)

If the item in question the officer allegedly stole was anything other than an iPad, would this story have been posted to slashdot?

In what way is this story relevant to nerd news. This is a simple crime case that could have happened anywhere, anytime. I expect the usual anti-LEO comments to appear now. Its sad how the editors namely timothy use this space as their own political soapbox.

Yes would have been here (2)

SuperKendall (25149) | about 3 years ago | (#36571834)

If the item in question the officer allegedly stole was anything other than an iPad, would this story have been posted to slashdot?

Come on, it was a police officer stealing something at an airline checkpoint. Yes of course that would have been on Slashdot, lots of people here have a fundamental distrust of law enforcement and an (admittedly earned) burning hatred of airport security lines designed to separate you from your belongings.

My real question is why the hell anyone making $86k/year would risk throwing everything away to steal something she could have easily bought? She has problems I think beyond just one theft.

Re:Yes would have been here (1)

Hazel Bergeron (2015538) | about 3 years ago | (#36571892)

My real question is why the hell anyone making $86k/year would risk throwing everything away to steal something she could have easily bought? She has problems I think beyond just one theft.

Not everyone becomes a thief to get loot/money. Hell, not everyone in general does stuff for the money. Haven't you ever given up / risked giving up the opportunity for a lot of money because there's something else you'd rather do? Your job isn't "everything", I hope. And never count the sunk cost, right?

Of course, she might have had a reason to think that particular iPad had valuable data on it, so the exercise might have been just for cash.

Re:Yes would have been here (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36572002)

she might have had a reason to think that particular iPad had valuable data on it

Are you kidding? Show me a single iPad that contains "valuable data."

Re:Yes would have been here (2)

HornWumpus (783565) | about 3 years ago | (#36572088)

All the iPads owned by hot college girls who use the camera for its primary purpose (enabling remote gynecology).

Re:Yes would have been here (0)

S.O.B. (136083) | about 3 years ago | (#36572424)

For every hot college girl there are 10 not so hot college cows. The odds are not in your favour.

Re:Yes would have been here (1)

zippyspringboard (1483595) | about 3 years ago | (#36572672)

Umm... I totally understand what you are saying, but I feel compelled to give you a heads up, call it a bit of a warning. You see, your comment clearly reveals your age. As you get older those numbers will start to shift. Be forewarned, It wont be an unnoticed shift, in fact it'll be disturbing. I prefer to think that with maturity one gains the ability to appreciate the finer and previously un-noticed qualities of those other girls... Could just be that as you grow old you get a permanent case of beer goggles...

Re:Yes would have been here (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36572086)

Maybe she took it just for the lulz...

Re:Yes would have been here (1)

GooberToo (74388) | about 3 years ago | (#36572392)

Not everyone becomes a thief to get loot/money.

That was entirely the gp's point. They likely have a mental disorder which motivated the crime for a reason other than to benefit financially.

So you disagreed by agreeing and then turn it on its head by offering they may have done it for a reason other than the reason you first offered by disagreement. WTF?!?

A Surprise? (1)

hduff (570443) | about 3 years ago | (#36571764)

No surprise. Cops are people too, with all the usual failings.

At least this bad cop was arrested instead of "protecting their own", but let's see how he is prosecuted.

Re:A Surprise? (1)

SpaceCadetTrav (641261) | about 3 years ago | (#36571828)

So the real question is... why was she carrying a bag of chicken?

Re:A Surprise? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36571862)

Perhaps you're not aware of the "Nigger Food Pyramid"?

Re:A Surprise? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36571990)

"Perhaps you're not aware of the "Nigger Food Pyramid"?"

LOL !!!

How right you are.

Anyone who has been around so-called African-Americans knows there are certain
foods which they really love. Fried chicken is the number one item on that list.

Re:A Surprise? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36572322)

Yep, not just a racial stereotype. Paraphrasing a black coworker: "you white people come up with some whack shit about us but you're right about the fried chicken".

Re:A Surprise? (2)

erroneus (253617) | about 3 years ago | (#36573004)

Fuck that. I like fried chicken too. It's damned good... well some of it is. I've had not-so-good fried chicken... you gotta know what you're doing and do it right. Just this talk about fried chicken makes me want some. And Watermelon is good shit too. For that matter, I have even developed an appreciation for collard greens. If you want to bash on black people, go after something else. I like the food a lot.

Re:A Surprise? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36573078)

Jorge Bastida what's up man? What's going on here??

Re:A Surprise? (4, Insightful)

causality (777677) | about 3 years ago | (#36572106)

No surprise. Cops are people too, with all the usual failings.

At least this bad cop was arrested instead of "protecting their own", but let's see how he is prosecuted.

The fact that they are actually applying the law equally and not regarding the cop as above the law is the surprise.

If only they'd prosecute police brutality, corruption, and intimidation (particularly of anyone with a camera) with such fervency. Then they might stop looking so much like the thugs they're supposed to protect us from.

If that sounds too categorical, that's for a well-founded reason. The cops who don't abuse power themselves but keep silent when their co-workers do the same are equally guilty. They sometimes call it "the blue wall of silence". I call it the blue wall of cowardice. It is most unbecoming of such otherwise brave people.

Re:A Surprise? (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36572530)

It's a cop from California who got caught doing the crime in Florida. That's why.

The cover-their-own stuff happens in other cases because they broke the rules in their own district, thus it's their own department, staffed by their own co-workers, that has the authority to go after them. Yeah, it sounds like a massive ethics violation to me, too. IMO, when a cop is accused of something, it should be the next higher layer up in charge of the investigation (local cop? state investigation. state cop? federal investigation. federal cop? federal investigation from a different part of the country.) There's a reason people ask "who watches the watchers?".

Re:A Surprise? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36572692)

Bad cop was in the TSA's house, so bad cop is being shown who is *really* above the law.

Re:A Surprise? (1)

msobkow (48369) | about 3 years ago | (#36572490)

Another thieving thug with a badge. You're absolutely right -- no surprise.

"...She placed her bag of chicken over it" (4, Interesting)

retroworks (652802) | about 3 years ago | (#36571808)

I read the arresting officer's police report via the link. In case you don't intend to (it's kind of boring), I think the highlight is the statement that upon seeing the IPad in the TSA bin, that she placed her bag of chicken over it. Aside from that, I guess any story with the word "IPad" and a photo of Steve Jobs is sure to be interesting to someone. So off-duty-police crime + IPad and Steve Jobs + Bag of Chicken is the combination that makes this story "interesting".

Re:"...She placed her bag of chicken over it" (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36571936)

Who takes a bag of chicken to the airport?

Re:"...She placed her bag of chicken over it" (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36572006)

Black people.

Re:"...She placed her bag of chicken over it" (1)

sconeu (64226) | about 3 years ago | (#36572580)

People who don't want to pay 10 times the going rate for food?

Re:"...She placed her bag of chicken over it" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36573980)

Who takes a bag of chicken to the airport?

I guess you've never observed a herd of fat black women getting on a Southwest Airlines flight. All carrying bags of fried chicken.

Re:"...She placed her bag of chicken over it" (3, Funny)

camperdave (969942) | about 3 years ago | (#36574108)

Who takes a bag of chicken to the airport?

People looking to steal an ipad.

Re:"...She placed her bag of chicken over it" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36572016)

Nice troll. No one had any idea a chicken was involved, nor did anyone (but you!) care.

The interesting thing here is a paid public servant got caught on camera stealing a $800 technology device. Instead of protecting us, we have our watchers who are committing highway robbery, depriving someone of their right to property when the public servant could have easily afforded one on their own. This story could have been replaced with a story on any other technology product, whether it was a portable computer, phone, camera, pda, etc and it still likely would have been posted.

Re:"...She placed her bag of chicken over it" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36572394)

I think the more interesting part is the fact that she makes $86k as a patrol officer. Holy shit.

Re:"...She placed her bag of chicken over it" (2)

tqk (413719) | about 3 years ago | (#36572594)

I think the more interesting part is the fact that she makes $86k as a patrol officer ...

And doesn't realize airports, of all places, are now blanketed with CCTV. That's practically scary. Where's she been for the last decade?!?

Potential future Darwin Award nominee? I'll take bets.

Re:"...She placed her bag of chicken over it" (1)

easyTree (1042254) | about 3 years ago | (#36572844)

Potential future Darwin Award nominee? I'll take bets.

What odds will you give me that she exits in a manner which somehow involves an iPad n.0 ?

Re:"...She placed her bag of chicken over it" (2)

tqk (413719) | about 3 years ago | (#36573038)

Potential future Darwin Award nominee? I'll take bets.

What odds will you give me that she exits in a manner which somehow involves an iPad n.0?

At $86k/a., she could afford one of her own. A Grand Theft conviction is going to lose her that gravy train so she won't be able to afford to buy one, and now (only now?!?) she knows what happens when she tries to steal one. Will she learn the lesson? Hmm ... Tough call. Can old dogs learn new tricks?

I expect cops to be a lot smarter and better vetted and trained than this. Silly me. I'll guess she won't learn from this, and she'll be on the docket again in the not too distant future, but not with an iAnything in her posession.

She shouldn't have skipped the ethics classes. They might have come in handy. I wonder what else she's been up to and has so far gotten away with scott free. One less crooked cop. It's a good day.

Re:"...She placed her bag of chicken over it" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36572694)

That might not be base pay. Overtime (especially on state/federal holidays) can really add up. If I remember right, some areas also pay higher for time spent appearing in court (to encourage the police to actually show up for those traffic tickets), which is also going to add up quickly.

Actually, just googling "fullerton police base pay", the second hit is a pdf with the details. A police officer in fullerton (or even a trainee) starts at $64,449/year, so hitting $86k with overtime is very doable. Plain old 50 hour weeks would do it, no additional gaming the rules necessary.

Re:"...She placed her bag of chicken over it" (1)

arth1 (260657) | about 3 years ago | (#36572950)

I think the more interesting part is the fact that she makes $86k as a patrol officer. Holy shit.

And at the age of 25. I could understand it if it was someone with a generation of police experience, but a new graduate?

Re:"...She placed her bag of chicken over it" (2)

hey! (33014) | about 3 years ago | (#36573022)

Well, I don't know if I'd call the story itself interesting, but it is candidate /. material on three points. (1) Slashdot readers do travel by air, probably with more tech bling than average, so this story could be a launching point for a discussion about protecting your geek toys. (2) Geeks enjoy a story that reminds them they're smarter than other classes of people, especially if that class *should* be screened for intelligence but isn't (e.g. cops). (3) People here seem to enjoy an NRA-style "cold-dead-hands" rant when it comes to law enforcement meddling with ... well anything, but particularly mobile technology. So I'm sure that a few thousand readers will manage to squeeze a dram or so of near-beer strength entertainment from this story.

That said I think it stinks that this got posted an my Lloyd Alexander obituary from 2007 was ignored.

Re:"...She placed her bag of chicken over it" (2)

twebb72 (903169) | about 3 years ago | (#36573164)

I had a cop search my car once -- I was in the wrong place at the wrong time (but minding my own business). I had nothing to hide so of course I said yes to the search.
He finished the search after about 15 minutes, leaving the interior upside down, shoe prints all over the seats. At the time, I was going to the gym daily, and had taken off my mp3 player only an hour earlier and placed in my console to charge. I get back into the car, drive back home, go for my mp3 player and lo -- the cop absolutely swiped it. I didn't leave my sight but for the 15 minutes he was in my car. My word against his.
My mistake, I should have bought an Apple product, that way it would have gotten national attention. Instead I get to go around mistrusting anyone in blue, knowing they're only looking out for themselves and will use every opportunity to cheat, steal, and abuse their authority.

Re:"...She placed her bag of chicken over it" (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36573946)

I had nothing to hide so of course I said yes to the search.

This was your first mistake.

ObCaruzo (1, Redundant)

Alex Belits (437) | about 3 years ago | (#36571886)

So this time a watchman...

(puts on the glasses) ..was watched.

YEEEEEEAAAAHHHH!!!!

Seriously? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36571888)

You'd have to be mentally defective to steal at an airport. They're the most tightly secured and monitored civilian areas.

Re:Seriously? (1)

gfxguy (98788) | about 3 years ago | (#36572052)

Unless you're actually part of law enforcement (like a TSA agent), in which case it's like a shopping spree at Best Buy.

I don't question why slashdot posted this story because of it's loose association with technology, I question it because TSA stealing stuff is so commonplace, I would have thought it was simply an uninteresting fact of life at this point.

Re:Seriously? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36572120)

TSA isn't law enforcement. If a situation is bad enough they have to call a LEO.

Re:Seriously? (1)

hedwards (940851) | about 3 years ago | (#36572144)

Right and as private security they lack the legal authority to conduct the types of invasive searches they've been conducting. That's the domain of genuine LEOs.

Re:Seriously? (1)

shentino (1139071) | about 3 years ago | (#36572262)

It's more like consent by contract.

You buy an airline ticket and agree to bend over.

Re:Seriously? (3, Insightful)

causality (777677) | about 3 years ago | (#36572136)

You'd have to be mentally defective to steal at an airport. They're the most tightly secured and monitored civilian areas.

No, you just have to think you're above the law. That the cop was wrong about this is the exception and not the rule.

The norm is that cops who break the law, including those who engage in unprovoked violence against innocent civilians, receive a paid vacation known as admistrative suspension.

Re:Seriously? (1)

easyTree (1042254) | about 3 years ago | (#36572880)

The norm is that cops who break the law, including those who engage in unprovoked violence against innocent civilians, receive a paid vacation known as admistrative suspension.

Yah but dude. We're not talking about some minor bullshit like tasering a pregnant woman seventeen times before climbing on her back for an impromptu rodeo on CCTV here. An *iPad* was STOLEN!!!!

Re:Seriously? (4, Interesting)

antifoidulus (807088) | about 3 years ago | (#36572474)

Most of the thieves who work for the TSA are actually a lot more sophisticated than this idiot. My co-worker had a macbook pro stolen from him at the airport. He put one into his checked baggage and when he got it back inside he found the love letter from the TSA saying they had inspected the bag and no laptop. What we did find upon closer inspection was a small, but certainly noticeable incision on the top left corner of the bag. We hypothesize, though obviously cannot prove, that this was essentially a signal to the person who took the bag from the inspection point(where there are tons of cameras) to the loading dock for the plane. The area in between is bound to have significantly fewer cameras and is most likely where the theft took place. He complained to the TSA but got the standard note that they take things like this very seriously and how theft is very rare etc. Basically they said "sucks to be you" and he never heard from them again.

Re:Seriously? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36573594)

Well, it sucks that it was stolen, but who puts a laptop into checked luggage? The odds of losing that approach 100%.

Re:Seriously? (2)

Rob the Bold (788862) | about 3 years ago | (#36573438)

You'd have to be mentally defective to steal at an airport. They're the most tightly secured and monitored civilian areas.

Secure? Maybe. Maybe not. But if you're referring to secure from theft, then definitely not.

Example. I'm attempting to clear security in Houston. I'm selected for extra-secure security searching. So my stuff is extra security-secure, right?

If you said, "yes," you'd be wrong.

Actually, all my stuff is at the end of a conveyor 30 feet away. I'd like to keep an eye on it, but I've either got to look away for half a minute while being irradiated, or be distracted for even longer by some guy touching my junk. Do they give a shit that my stuff is just sitting there? Is it "tightly secured"? Why, no, it is not. When I'm done with my extra secure-security, I go to find my stuff and it's gone. All of it.

Good thing I was travelling with my wife. She'd grabbed all my things and was waiting at a bench. But of course someone made sure that she had a right to take my stuff, no? Glad you asked. No. No, she was not hassled as she schlepped away two travelers' worth of carry-ons, outerwear and shoes.

Seriously, if someone can walk away with two pairs of shoes, one pair of which is not for their size or gender, then boosting an iPad is a piece of pie. Easy as cake.

P.S. Wife's colleague only managed to hang on to her passport through outbound checkpoint in Chicago due to helpful stranger seeing unaccompanied passport and looking for matching traveler.

P.P.S. Enhanced pat-down did not detect full tube of Carmex in my jeans pocket. I can't see how a full tube of Carmex poses any threat to air travel, but if you're gonna put your hands in my pants and still don't notice the stuff in my pockets, you may just be there for show. Just sayin',

Now, perhaps you'd say that you need to keep better track of your belongings. Fine. But I'm responding to the parent, so why no go ahead and read that first, um-kay? Especially the "tightly secured" part. I'd also suggest you give that a try and let us know how it works out.

A simple theft (-1)

nurb432 (527695) | about 3 years ago | (#36571890)

Makes it to the front page? So someone stole something.. big whoop.. happens every day, all day long.

Re:A simple theft (1)

dtmancom (925636) | about 3 years ago | (#36571992)

Well, it is SORT OF news since it wasn't the TSA stealing, this time.

Re:A simple theft (1)

nurb432 (527695) | about 3 years ago | (#36572504)

News yes, front page news, no.

I Guessed it (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36571904)

From the summary, I just knew it was a beaner or a coon.

Grand Theft? (1)

bazald (886779) | about 3 years ago | (#36572064)

I'm inclined to believe that iPads are overpriced, but not to the extent that stealing one should qualify as grand theft. Did the owner have the "I Am Rich" app installed, or what am I missing?

Re:Grand Theft? (0)

hedwards (940851) | about 3 years ago | (#36572156)

I had to look that up as well. Apparently in CA grand theft is for goods or labor valued over $400.

Re:Grand Theft? (1)

hedwards (940851) | about 3 years ago | (#36572166)

Heh, screwed that up. This was in FL, not CA.

Re:Grand Theft? (1)

ViableDreams (1753312) | about 3 years ago | (#36572208)

Grand theft varies by state but often starts as low as $400. In California it seems to be $950 but they never have trouble inflating the value to charge it as such.

Re:Grand Theft? (2)

idobi (820896) | about 3 years ago | (#36573102)

In Miami, Grand Theft is >$300

Re:Grand Theft? (1)

Dahamma (304068) | about 3 years ago | (#36573348)

I thought that was in Vice City...

Grand Theft iPad? (0)

sehlat (180760) | about 3 years ago | (#36572094)

There has got to be an idea for a game in there somewhere.

Re:Grand Theft iPad? (1)

S.O.B. (136083) | about 3 years ago | (#36572524)

Grand Theft TSA...You drive around various international airports on a golf cart and shoot/run over tourists and steal their luggage. Bonus points of they have any liquids greater than 8oz.

Re:Grand Theft iPad? (1)

easyTree (1042254) | about 3 years ago | (#36572898)

You'll probably need to license that behavior from the TSA so as to avoid infringing on their patent.

Tables will turn (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36572180)

They'll probably just arrest the entire Miami TSA force for videotaping a police officer.

Re:Tables will turn (1)

shentino (1139071) | about 3 years ago | (#36572282)

Yeah, arrest the feds for doing their job?

That'll work really well :P.

The next move will be several cops landing on the no fly list.

Is this one of those places... (3, Insightful)

digitig (1056110) | about 3 years ago | (#36572366)

Is this one of those places where we can expect to see the airport prosecuted for filming a police officer?

The Not So Real Surprise (4, Interesting)

Cylix (55374) | about 3 years ago | (#36572592)

While checking through at the airport a few months back I was going through the standard scans. After placing my items in the bins (o so many bins, damn you electronic devices) I'm left to stand while they take a peek at my penis (to determine if it's worthy of flight).

The agent nearby asks me to keep an eye on my items as they pass through. I suppose if I'm busy watching my things they are free to do other things (like giggle at my pictures). I thought it was kinda odd because who in the right mind would dare defy the TSA under their noses. Still, nearly 20 seconds after the agent mentions me watching my belongings some chick snatches my ipad out of the bin and proceeds to start to walk off. Unfortunately, I can't leave my position of shame and I keep raising my voice while repeatedly saying, "HEY LADY, THAT IS MY IPAD." Eventually, when about 3 or 4 people are staring her down she sets in back in the bin and states she thought it was hers. Ignoring the fact that it was crammed between three other bins that had my possessions and I don't recall her actually picking up an ipad from her newly radioactive items.

In the end, I kept my things and the TSA laughed at my penis some more. Still, it's quite frightening how easy it really is to both nab someones things and then write off what you were attempting.

Re:The Not So Real Surprise (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36572834)

You're supposed to watch your stuff, but more often than not you lack line of sight, are too far away, are being distracted by them and can't move if you need to.

Re:The Not So Real Surprise (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36572876)

You don't actually have to take your iPad out of your bag when going through a screening. The TSA makes an exception for the Kindle and the iPad because they are sealed devices. I've gone through airport security many times with both devices without a problem.

Re:The Not So Real Surprise (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36573032)

Handy tip: you can leave all electronic devices except laptops in your bag as it goes through the x-ray. This includes iPads. I do this all the time and I've never had the TSA search my bag. I've done it at least a dozen times now and have never had a problem. Your stuff is much less tempting if it is out of sight in a bag.

Re:The Not So Real Surprise (4, Interesting)

erroneus (253617) | about 3 years ago | (#36573108)

I spent a little time as a TSA screener. Take it from me, most of them don't like their jobs and would rather be doing something else. They are barred from using their brains and are likely to lose their jobs if they do anything that resembles "sensible." The best way to get through a checkpoint is to quietly make it known that you know they don't like what they do or how they have to do it and that all you are interested in is getting out of their way and on to your destination. Also, it doesn't hurt to treat them like people and offer a little small talk. You will never see or meet the people making the real decisions. All you get to see are people who probably couldn't get a better job somewhere else.

And while it is known that TSA people have stolen things, it is actually quite difficult to do that. I know in my time there, things were pretty well watched. The real threat was and still is, the baggage handlers and civilians who go to the airports to steal luggage.

I'm a long way from defending the TSA, but I know what it's like to do things I didn't like doing. Searching people and their things is interesting at first, but after the first few days, it's meaningless and endless. If you think for a moment that someone's there snickering at your "whatever" you would be wrong. Only newbies would be like that.

Re:The Not So Real Surprise (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36573210)

Jorge Bastida, what's up man?

Re:The Not So Real Surprise (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36573478)

I spent a little time as a TSA screener. Take it from me, most of them don't like their jobs and would rather be doing something else. They are barred from using their brains and are likely to lose their jobs if they do anything that resembles "sensible." The best way to get through a checkpoint is to quietly make it known that you know they don't like what they do or how they have to do it and that all you are interested in is getting out of their way and on to your destination. Also, it doesn't hurt to treat them like people and offer a little small talk. You will never see or meet the people making the real decisions. All you get to see are people who probably couldn't get a better job somewhere else.

And while it is known that TSA people have stolen things, it is actually quite difficult to do that. I know in my time there, things were pretty well watched. The real threat was and still is, the baggage handlers and civilians who go to the airports to steal luggage.

I'm a long way from defending the TSA, but I know what it's like to do things I didn't like doing. Searching people and their things is interesting at first, but after the first few days, it's meaningless and endless. If you think for a moment that someone's there snickering at your "whatever" you would be wrong. Only newbies would be like that.

I know a bazillion people who would like you to come to their houses so they could shoot you as an intruder. Not me. I wouldn't do that.

I don't care (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36573664)

I don't give a damn whether or not they snicker. They are still violating my personal sovereignty for no damn good reason. Those scanners do not protect us from terrorism, and methods exist that are cheaper, more effective, and less invasive.

They can hate their jobs all they want...so long as those body scanners are there I refuse to fly.

Re:The Not So Real Surprise (1)

Cylix (55374) | about 3 years ago | (#36574072)

Since you completely missed the point of anything there and went on a random rant in reply...

What's the difference between a post apocalyptic thermonuclear wasteland and Kansas? At least among the rubble and mutants in the wasteland there is something to do!

In fact, the whole conversation seems so misplaced it seems like a robotext running on keywords. I believe it's worth a shot to give it a test, no?

As a TSA representative how many penis's have you witnessed? I want to compare it with the number of breasts I've seen on the internet. (I'm still thinking I lose on this one and I've seen a lot of tits!)

TSA will steal your stuff too (1)

Shivetya (243324) | about 3 years ago | (#36573158)

and cover for each other. According to a local Atlanta radio host he watched as one of the officers took an iPod and other items then left the area. When he tried to confront them they said he had gone home or such. In other words, if they want stuff they know to cover each other and intimidate the flying public with arrest.

http://mydailykona.blogspot.com/2011/06/tsa-stealing-from-passengers.html [blogspot.com]
http://www.examiner.com/headlines-in-new-york/former-tsa-supervisor-at-newark-jailed-for-stealing-from-passengers [examiner.com]

Yet, recording police is still illegal someplaces. (3, Insightful)

VortexCortex (1117377) | about 3 years ago | (#36572888)

This is really the only argument that ever need to be voiced when arguing against laws that make it illegal to record police in public:

Who are Police? They are people. Some people do wrong things sometimes. Thus, some police break the law. Making it illegal for others to record the police only makes illegal behavior by corrupt police easier.

In this instance the officer was not on duty, but it shows that just because you are employed as a Police officer or Government agent doesn't mean your morals are always intact.

Is anybody else not surprised.. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36573150)

That the criminal was black?

Re:Is anybody else not surprised.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36573330)

Criminal was white. Blonde.

Her photo is at http://www.csub.edu/bas/staff/2008_0117StaffCoffee/2008STAFFCOFFEEjan17_text.shtml [csub.edu]

Re:Is anybody else not surprised.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36573434)

Wrong, Internet sleuth. The Kelly Mejia in the article is only 25 years old.

Typical Cop (2)

Nehmo (757404) | about 3 years ago | (#36573224)

Fullerton Police Patrol Officer Kelly Mejia used the well-known stealing technique of placing a bag (in this case, a bag of chicken) http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Mejia-Arrest.pdf [fullertonsfuture.org] over the item and then removing both. People steal cell phones using this method all the time. It happened to me on a bus in Kansas City, MO.
Kelly Mejia makes 86K$US/year and has been an patrol officer for 6 years. When confronted about the pad, she said she was going to keep it.
I have found that most people on the internet assume police are honest, and people are going to say this officer was just the unusual bad apple. The opposite is true. If a person is a cop, the person is a lier and a thief. This officer was so used to stealing she assumed she was going to get away with it (because she was a cop) and was indignant when confronted.
What's actually amazing about this story is that the fellow officers chose to arrest her. She must have done or said something to anger them.
I'm taking bets. I say she doesn't do a day in jail.

Re:Typical Cop (1)

Nehmo (757404) | about 3 years ago | (#36573364)

Fullerton Police Patrol Officer Kelly Mejia used the well-known stealing technique of placing a bag (in this case, a bag of chicken) http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Mejia-Arrest.pdf [fullertonsfuture.org] over the item and then removing both. People steal cell phones using this method all the time. It happened to me on a bus in Kansas City, MO. Kelly Mejia makes 86K$US/year and has been an patrol officer for 6 years. When confronted about the pad, she said she was going to keep it. I have found that most people on the internet assume police are honest, and people are going to say this officer was just the unusual bad apple. The opposite is true. If a person is a cop, the person is a lier and a thief. This officer was so used to stealing she assumed she was going to get away with it (because she was a cop) and was indignant when confronted. What's actually amazing about this story is that the fellow officers chose to arrest her. She must have done or said something to anger them. I'm taking bets. I say she doesn't do a day in jail.

Before someone pounces on my spelling, allow me to provide my own correction: a cop is a "lier" if she lies in wait for an ipod to steal. She is a "liar" if afterwards she claims she innocently found it.
I should have used "liar" in the sentence of my earlier post. Corrected: If a person is a cop, the person is a liar and a thief.

Another day, another airport, another crime... (4, Informative)

CelticWhisper (601755) | about 3 years ago | (#36573354)

http://travelunderground.org/index.php?threads/list-of-tsa-crime-stories-since-december-2010-part-1.127/ [travelunderground.org]
http://travelunderground.org/index.php?threads/list-of-tsa-crime-stories-since-december-2010-part-2.128/ [travelunderground.org]

Granted this one wasn't actually committed by a TSO but as was mentioned above, airport security checkpoints are prime locations for theft because many seem (or are) deliberately designed to separate you from your belongings.

Tip: You are NOT required to use a TSA-friendly lock to lock your carry-on bag. Keep your valuables inside your bag as it goes through the X-ray and lock it with a secure, TSA-unfriendly lock. If you want to take your laptop out as they insist you have to (many have said they've left the laptop in the bag and the TSA troglodytes haven't said anything about it), lock it to your bag handle with a Kensington locking cable. These steps will help ensure that you're there to watch them if they claim to need to look through your belongings. It also helps prevent them from trying to force you into a private room for a gropedown by picking your bags up and walking off with them.

And yeah, this is a shameless plug, but the site in my sig is a good resource for tracking TSA civil-rights abuses and coordinating political action to fight back against them. There's good advice to be had for putting TSOs in their place at the checkpoint too.

How ironic! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36573682)

How ironic! I just started reading "The Conservative Assault on the Constitution" by Erwin Chrminsky (http://goo.gl/iCO5p). In his introduction, Cherminsky writes about his frustrated effort to get a new sentence for people sentenced effectively to life in prison in California for petty theft as a consequence of the "Three Strikes" law. Most of those convicted this way are Black and Latino. The Supreme Court consistently upholds these convictions in 5-4 majorities despite the clear violation of the Eight Amendment. This gal will probably get a slap on the wrist, then she'll agree to "get help" or she'll go to work for a security firm.

86K ? (1)

SageMusings (463344) | about 3 years ago | (#36573708)

I guess for me, the real shock is a cop can earn that much money. Even in California this figure is quite generous for someone with possibly an Associates degree (guessing, as most cops are in this range) and some time at a local academy (also normally hosted by community colleges).

There are people a lot better educated and arguably more productive to society making about that figure.

Thats probably 86k w.out overtime.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36574024)

I was pulled over by a Sheriff and we got to talking (he didn't give me a ticket, just got a warning) and he mentioned he makes 150k w/OT. Keep in mind, that when he retires he'll get a pension based on his salary....

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