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LulzSec Announces That It Is Done

timothy posted more than 3 years ago | from the oh-they-all-say-that dept.

Security 412

MaxBooger writes "LulzSec, the notorious hacker group that's been on a rampage, just announced that it's disbanding. This follows 50 days' chaos during which time it took down several websites (including CIA.gov at one point), exposed passwords, exposed documents of the Arizona penal system, and at one point threatened to hit Too Big To Fail banks. Obviously, it's possible that the group will not abide by its promise to quit. Nobody knows."

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as the saying goes (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36572400)

if you cant stand the heat, get your @$$ out the kitchen

Exactly (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36572468)

Once their names started coming out, and their chat logs started being dumped, they sure did tuck their tail and run away quickly.

Re:as the saying goes (1)

Libertarian001 (453712) | more than 3 years ago | (#36573248)

I believe that's what they're doing.

Re:as the saying goes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36573276)

a kitchen analogy? what are you doing on the computer? tits or gb2kitchen!

Cowards (0, Troll)

jdpars (1480913) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572404)

What, life get too hard? Clearly someone got close to kicking them out of the game, and they ran before that would happen.

Re:Cowards (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36572512)

What, life get too hard? Clearly someone got close to kicking them out of the game, and they ran before that would happen.

Win the war, not the battle.

Live to fight another day.

I can think of others. Basically sounds like a smart idea to me.

Re:Cowards (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36572668)

So they're going to win the war by quitting, have I got that right?

See a history book on Vietnam for an example of how well that works out in reality.

Re:Cowards (0)

sortius_nod (1080919) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572706)

Worked out well for the Vietnamese.

Re:Cowards (2)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 3 years ago | (#36573110)

Worked well for the Communists, not so well for the South Vietnamese who weren't communist.

Also look at what happened during Tet '68 to non-communists in Communist controlled provinces.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_at_Hu%E1%BA%BF [wikipedia.org] .

Re:Cowards (5, Insightful)

carlzum (832868) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572770)

Excellent analogy, wrong conclusion. Know your objective, how what you're willing to invest to achieve it, and exit when you've reached your goal or exceeded your costs. LulzSec made some headlines and embarrassed a few major organizations. Going to jail isn't worth a few more headlines.

Re:Cowards (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36572800)

They're still pussies.

Re:Cowards (1)

HuckleCom (690630) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572818)

I have a hunch going to jail isn't even the worse threat they've encountered ...

IGTT 8/10 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36573186)

[n/t]

Re:Cowards (2)

HuckleCom (690630) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572806)

He who runs away today can run away another day - Brett Maverick (Or his 'pappy')

Re:Cowards (1)

Cylix (55374) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572832)

Pound me in the ass prison?

That comes to mind to me.

Re:Cowards (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36572860)

I'm sure it came to mind to them shortly before they made this little "announcement." Now that they realize that a few automated scripts and rented botnets does not a hacker make, they're all running with their tails between their legs, like a bunch of children who were caught drawing with permanent marker on the walls. They talked a big talk but when people started shining the light on them they scattered like the cockroaches they really are.

Re:Cowards (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36573192)

Tell us how you really feel, Officer Fife...

Re:Cowards (1)

carlzum (832868) | more than 3 years ago | (#36573170)

On June 21st a suspected member is arrested in the UK, on June 25th they call it quits. The prospect of life in a British arse pounding prison was certainly a factor.

Re:Cowards (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36572638)

What, life get too hard? Clearly someone got close to kicking them out of the game, and they ran before that would happen.

Or, clearly they're lying through their teeth, for the lulz.

Would be NICE if it were your way, but when you give a spoiled kid a power trip...

Re:Cowards (1)

phantomfive (622387) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572932)

Really though, would you do anything different? I can think of lots of worse things than being a 'coward'

Re:Cowards (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36572970)

I wouldn't have started to begin with.

Re:Cowards (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36573100)

I heard yesterday they were given an ultimatum by another hacking group to leave the game now or be forced out. Today there is this.

Yeah well... (0)

SomePgmr (2021234) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572410)

...fame is a helluva drug.

Good for them (5, Insightful)

OopsIDied (1764436) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572434)

Quitting while they're ahead.

Re:Good for them (4, Funny)

Zerth (26112) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572628)

In other news, mysterious hacker group YhymFrp has announced their intentions to continue what LulzSec started.

Re:Good for them (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36572928)

Replay

Re:Good for them (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36572882)

I really can't wait to read about one of these mother fuckers getting shot and killed by one of their targets. It would serve them right.

err (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36572444)

The brightest flame burns quickest. I'm surprised things even got this far.

Good (3, Insightful)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572454)

As much as I'm for protests and such, these kids were just out to cause harm because they could. They need to get a legitimate cause, and stop pissing on ( innocent ) people randomly, or be gone.

They give the rest of us a bad name.

Re:Good (4, Insightful)

trapnest (1608791) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572614)

>implying all kinds of things

Re:Good (5, Insightful)

bennett000 (2028460) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572646)

As much as I'm for protests and such, these kids were just out to cause harm because they could. They need to get a legitimate cause, and stop pissing on ( innocent ) people randomly, or be gone.

They give the rest of us a bad name.

Aside from doxing Arizona law enforcement, what harm did they really cause? They've really just managed to point out a lot of trivial security flaws... I suppose one could argue that they cost Sony billions of dollars, but fighting Sony was a legitimate cause...

Re:Good (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36572666)

I think these guys did a lot of good at the same time. IT security is in a horrid now a days (if it never wasn't). Hopefully some companies will pick up on what is possible and start taking security more seriously. More of a kick in the ass to get people to realize this would be better but alas.

Imagine if some real hacking on bank accounts was successful. O wait, you would never hear about it because that's what good hackers do, they keep it hush, this was for the lulz.

Re:Good (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36572810)

I agree with the essence of what you say, unfortunately these high-profile attacks are generating buzz for the wrong reasons.

Look at the mainstream press. They're covering computer security, which doesn't happen much and could be a rare opportunity. But what do they say? Do they say, "bad companies, they should make more of an effort to secure their data!"? Or is it, "bad hackers, up to no good!"? Unfortunately I've seen more of the latter.

Re:Good (3, Funny)

ifiwereasculptor (1870574) | more than 3 years ago | (#36573156)

In the US of A where they were born and raised
Corporations pleased customers on most of their days
Chilling out, maxing, relaxing all cool
While employing people fresh out of the school
When a couple of hackers, they were up to no good
Started making trouble in their neighborhood
They got in one little fight and the prez got scared
He said "we're going to war, it's not like anyone cared"

Re:Good (1, Flamebait)

girlintraining (1395911) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572696)

They need to get a legitimate cause, and stop pissing on ( innocent ) people randomly, or be gone.

I fail to see how anything they did could be justified even if it was for a 'legitimate' cause. Taking away others' ability to participate in the community [network] is universally wrong. You lose the moral high ground and then some doing that.

Re:Good (4, Informative)

arth1 (260657) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572820)

I fail to see how anything they did could be justified even if it was for a 'legitimate' cause. Taking away others' ability to participate in the community [network] is universally wrong.

But they didn't. Sony did that, as a knee-jerk reaction. Don't blame LulzSec for Sony's ill-considered response.

Re:Good (1)

Lehk228 (705449) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572962)

sounds like SOMEONE made a $600 mistake buying a PS3

Re:Good (0, Troll)

Lesrahpem (687242) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572702)

They serve the Laughing God. There is a definite, divine purpose. You just don't understand it. This had nothing to do with causing random people harm. There are no innocent people. There are problems which are obvious to many, yet few act. Those who choose not to act are NOT innocent. They are part of the problem. You may be familiar with the Christian Bible and it's statement that "God" dislikes lukewarm people... Similar concept. Pick a side. It's better than being the terrain over which the war is fought, because terrain is just in the way and serves no purpose of it's own. It is there to be exploited.

Re:Good (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36573130)

They are part of the problem. You may be familiar with the Christian Bible and it's statement that "God" dislikes lukewarm people... Similar concept. Pick a side.

I'm Buddhist you insensitive clod and I choose the Middle Way!

Re:Good (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36573172)

Polite disagreement here. I for one am going to miss the circus -- to my mind they did a great job of exposing the security theater that corporations have erected instead of security. They made that headline news for a change, if only for a moment.

these kids were just out to cause harm because they could

These kids could have caused serious harm, and they didn't. It was very much a limited offense. "Innocent" people just got a wake-up call out of it.

I figured they'd be caught by now, and really wasn't looking forward to that. Good chance they still will, but maybe they'll manage to slip out quietly. It was wild enough they went as long as they did.

Another reason to figure in why they may have quit, is they might have been thinking of all the people who are and were going to be taken down in inept police-panic response as they continued to go after gov sites. That was going to be just ugly.

Whew! (5, Funny)

willoughby (1367773) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572456)

Now we can finally bring the troops home.

Cui bono? (3, Insightful)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572460)

So, when the dust settles, what's left to ask is simply: Who benefits from it?

I predict some new laws...

Re:Cui bono? (4, Insightful)

techsoldaten (309296) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572514)

Well, something tells me this is in response to legal activity. There are surely going to be new laws, probably not ones specifically in response to hacking activity, but others that allow various governments all sorts of access to records to track down hackers.

This will cause 'innovation' in the hacking scene, where people adapt to the new laws and develop new technologies that circumvent them and make them more challenging to implement. Hackers are simply going to go further 'underground' and be harder to track.

This, in turn, it going to lead to a number of high profile hacks of large services who have not matured in terms of how they secure their services. This will make the news, government officials will make unfortunate comments that draw the attention of various hacker groups, who will lash out through their newly developed anonymity.

In turn, this is going to result in new laws... stop me if you heard this before.

Re:Cui bono? (1)

postbigbang (761081) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572658)

Yeah, plus ca change.

I think they made a laughing stock outta the billion dollar budgets of a lot of pseudo "security" experts in a random assault, kind of like digital "wilding".

Now, it's time to make consulting money.

Re:Cui bono? (3, Insightful)

cavreader (1903280) | more than 3 years ago | (#36573080)

Consulting Money? These ass hats did not do anything worth hiring them for. Re-packaged SQL injection and DDOS attacks are strictly amateur hour.

Re:Cui bono? (1)

postbigbang (761081) | more than 3 years ago | (#36573226)

I didn't say they were clever.

I didn't say consultants were clever.

But someone needs to remind a bunch of people how to do parsers and isolate data types.

As regards DDoS, defense is a whole other strategy. Yes, you can recover. Yes, it's ugly for a few minutes. But it's survivable. And remember: most of these attacks got inside, not just hosed their TCP transports. They phished inside, got some dirty laundry, and hung it out to dry. They enjoyed watching orgs get punked.

Re:Cui bono? (2)

TimTucker (982832) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572704)

Well, something tells me this is in response to legal activity. There are surely going to be new laws, probably not ones specifically in response to hacking activity, but others that allow various governments all sorts of access to records to track down hackers.

The idealist in me wants to believe that we could also get more laws passed holding corporations more accountable for lax security.

Re:Cui bono? (0)

hedwards (940851) | more than 3 years ago | (#36573298)

We could, the problem is that the Americans who are stupid aren't necessarily the Americans that are too lazy to show up and vote. Right now we're still in an anti-government period, when things really melt down because the GOP was so incredibly greedy as to demolish the middle class we'll get all sorts of new regulations on the upper class. The only thing stopping that now is the middle class is still deluded enough not to realize their true position in the country.

Re:Cui bono? (1, Interesting)

Lesrahpem (687242) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572722)

Please allow me to draw attention to something I wrote almost exactly one year ago. It is highly pertinent to this matter. More so than might be obvious with just a quick read. Pay special attention to the specific words used and how they relate to recent events. Here is a link, and below is some copy pasta, served up just for you. http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2010/Jul/340 [seclists.org]

Dear Uncle Sam:

Apparently the United States is having some issues with its “cyber
command”effort.
This is my way of helping you out and contributing to your so-called
“home front”. I believe the following dissertation generally reflects the
current stance of my community in regard to your troubles. When I say
community I am referring to hackers, the modern alchemists, wizards, and
artists whose fore-bearers built this great nation of technology you now
stand and rely upon.

You make everything we are interested in illegal. As a result we are forced
to be criminals if we want to learn the particular set of survival traits,
commonly known as hacking. Sure there are “white hats” out there who possess
the knowledge and skill to stop the types of attacks they, themselves, can
come up with. They will happily work for you and do whatever you tell them.
However, while you are sheltered within your own personal paradigmal bubble
where all the children play nicely, the real world, 2.0 perhaps, awaits you
outside. Out here in the real world you have been giving us the shaft in
every way shape and form possible to discourage others from becoming like
us.

You didn’t want more of us. You didn’t want us to do what we know is right.
You wanted to use us as a resource or a munition. You make the things we are
interested in illegal so those of us who chose to learn any way are under
your theoretical control. We’re legally criminals so we must comply with you
and do as you like or we will go to jail.

Now that you have exhausted your arsenal of fear, uncertainty, and doubt,
you’ve come to realize you have some very troubling issues, the least of
which is that your aging titanic, system of information exchange is at once
your greatest strength and most needed crutch.

I know you like the *bottom line*, so I’ll state it here in a language you
can understand: We are pretty angry about how you have treated us over the
last few decades, especially since September 11 of 2001. You have made our
culture illegal. Now you want us to help you. You want us to conform to your
standards and ways of living, thinking, and acting so we can protect you
from the machinations of foreign minds.

Do you really feel that we have any obligation or incentive to do such a
thing? It benefits us in no tangible way to help you solve your mess. The
more time goes on, the less and less we actually need or have any use for
you.

Is it so hard to approach us with the same respect and dignity you would any
other nation? After all, while we may not technically own land or have an
army, we are a force you know must be reckoned with. If you would approach
us as you do other nations when you are in need perhaps we would feel better
about exporting our natural resources: the knowledge necessary to correctly
and securely provide and maintain the infrastructure you use for well, just
about everything.

I shall let this writ float along the aether, and perhaps some day, some
way, it will reach some one who can do simple math.

In parting, I must give you a brief history lesson; a reminder really: This
war will be no different than every other war waged with wizards.

Re:Cui bono? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36573012)

This is an example of why the Full Disclosure list is mostly a vast wasteland of noise.

Re:Cui bono? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36573120)

. . . to "track down hackers". . . yeah. . . that's the ticket. More likely "to track down political dissidents guilty of no crime". If anyone thinks this whole thing isn't just an elaborate scripted hoax, they're being taken for a ride.

This happened RIGHT when cybersecurity legislation was being debated in congress. Yes. . . that's right: just like magic. They write up the legislation and then all the sudden big bad hackers hit, striking at public sites and releasing private information of innocent people. Well . . . what a coincidence, the psychic masters in congress must have telepathically sensed that LulzSec was about to "rise up".

Thankfully they'll have all sorts of solutions to end anonymity on the internet, as well as increase their control over it since they lost the FCC takeover attempt a little ways back. (did you see what they did there? Yeah. . . net neutrality. . . that's the ticket. . . )

I'm not buying this at all. I doubt the people arrested will even be guilty. More than likely, they'll just pop on over to the NSA to see what 17 year old has been discussing "conspiracy theories" lately and implicate him as the big bad bogeyman in time for the Two Minutes Hate. There will be big blurbs of "LulzSec" grand dungeon-master of doom didn't trust government, in what 'officials' claim is an alarming trend. I even saw one group of supposed "hackers" trying to say that one of the writers for The Onion was a "member of LulzSec". The real "members of LulzSec" are probably sitting in air conditioned offices in the Pentagon laughing their asses off at how much power they're about to get when "lawmakers seek to do something in light of recent hacking epidemic". If you look at other news, the Pentagon is "wargaming cybersecurity operations" as we speak. Ladies and gentleman, I think you just saw your 'wargaming'.

Anyone want to buy a bridge?

Re:Cui bono? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36572848)

Good, maybe it will make people realize the government is not here for our benefit.

Re:Cui bono? (2)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 3 years ago | (#36573066)

Huh? Why would it?

The ones that do not understand and are not affected by the hacks won't care. They will not realize anything.

The ones that understand already knew it. They will not realize anything new.

The ones that do not understand but were affected (e.g. by having their credit card exposed) will welcome the laws and feel protected. They will not realize anything ever.

Brazil (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36572462)

This group is taking down many Brazilian government sites. Local Federal police is investigating.

Ironical (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36572464)

Interesting that a hacker group just posted that they were going after LulzSec and now all of a sudden, it's time to bail. I don't know about anyone else, but I don't remember an announcement at the beginning of this storm that they were going to "plan to get lulz for 50 days" and then up and stop. Just a thought...

Re:Interesting, not ironic (5, Interesting)

etymxris (121288) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572502)

Yes, and they had a document release planned for Monday. Something must have just happened.

Re:Interesting, not ironic (1)

arth1 (260657) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572774)

It's called cold feet. Too bad it's likely too late.

hmm (1, Insightful)

Dyinobal (1427207) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572486)

So the government project is done? did the government funded attacks, spark enough outrage to get new laws passed by the senate and house regardless of their long term damage?

Re:hmm (1)

JWW (79176) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572700)

What pisses me off most is that these new laws will be bad for ALL users of the Internet.

It would be hard for me to convinced that there won't be more harm than good that will come from their actions.

Re:hmm (1)

VortexCortex (1117377) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572964)

Called it. [slashdot.org]

I can't help but think that this is exactly what I would do if I were a once hacktivist turned undercover government agent trying to further the polictical agenda of censorship.
...
What do you want to bet that LulzSec is taken down as soon as the powers that be wish them down, and that no real damage will come of their attacks?

What did LulzSec accomplish? They raised the general public's awareness of the dangers of "hackers".

It should be easy to point to their "attacks" when trying to pass more strict legislation now: "It could happen to You!"

Re:hmm (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36573148)

Called what? That another slashdotter would think the same as you. Why the conspiracy theory when the simple answer, that they're a bunch of script kiddie wanna-be hackers that the law started to crack down on-fits so much better? They got one of them in the UK. How fast can they now start getting the rest? Pretty fast, unless you really believe LulzSec was some uber hacking organization. Face it, they are a bunch of dipsticks that feasted on poorly maintained websites (Bioware's old server but not the new one?). Couple that with the threat of incarceration and the Lulz just ain't worth it. That's what they did it for. Lulz, fame, and fun, not some huge civil right. "Raise the general public's awareness of the dangers of 'hackers'?" No, they didn't care anything about that so why pin that goal onto them? They did what they did for the Lulz and now want out before it gets "serious."

I don't know why you want some grand conspiracy. Some no-name jackasses decided it would be fun to get the media and US government into a tizzy. They did. They got their name in the paper. Some fame, and now they want out. Why is that so impossible while a multi-national super-secret espionage style internal government hacking ring is your first thought?

I'm not gonna lie about it... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36572488)

The Lulzsec Show was exciting. I'm not saying it was a good thing or I'm a fan. But I was hooked on the action.

I know I'd feel differently about it if I was one of the people whose credentials were posted.

Too Late (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36572494)

Sorry LulzSec, you may be quitting your game (at least publicly), but you all still committed major crimes and you will still be hunted down and prosecuted like the dogs you are. Hope you enjoyed your 'lulz' though.

Re:Too Late (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36573188)

Posting anonymously because fear has taken root.

Contract jobs (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36572516)

Word is that lulzsec was setup to aid criminal groups. Sounds like they are trying to lay low with all the latest attention.

What timing... (2, Insightful)

downhole (831621) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572548)

I don't remember them ever saying anything about limiting their hack-spree to 50 days. Sounds like they've pissed enough people off that they're starting to get ID'ed and arrested, and are hoping they can quit before it gets really bad. They're a bunch of weenies all right, but I don't think it's over for them. I for one will be lulzing my ass off when they all get caught and sent to pound-me-in-the-ass prison.

Re:What timing... (3, Interesting)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572864)

Sounds like they've pissed enough people off that they're starting to get ID'ed and arrested

Or their asses kicked.

Re:What timing... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36573088)

lol, I totally agree with the pound-me-in-the-ass part. They are like little brats growing up that call you names and throw stuff at you, and cry like little school girls once you catch them. Let them go and it happens all over again. I say lengthy prison sentences all around! These guys are nothing more than the digital equivalent of the Vancouver rioters IMHO (and what was their excuse? Should have had tougher glass on the store windows?)

Re:What timing... (1)

jcwayne (995747) | more than 3 years ago | (#36573326)

Don't be so cynical. They just couldn't be sure of internet access at summer camp.

Fuck You (-1, Flamebait)

Saint Stephen (19450) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572550)

Hey Teenagers,

Been There, Done That, Bought the T-Shirt.

Hope you enjoy the cock-gargling ass-raping in your near future,

Go to Hell,

The rest of the planet

Re:Fuck You (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36573206)

Hey Teenagers,

Been There, Done That, Bought the T-Shirt.

Hope you enjoy the cock-gargling ass-raping in your near future,

Go to Hell,

The rest of the planet

Teenagers in general? If so, you truly are a crusty bastard.

Otherwise, you are implying that you've done something to deserve (unwanted?) gay sex. In which case, go fuck yourself, you hypocritical douche bag.

Sincerely,
The rest of the planet.

Over? (3, Insightful)

gadzook33 (740455) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572556)

You knocked on the devil's door my friends.

I doubt it... (4, Insightful)

Lohrno (670867) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572568)

My totally random guess here is that they are a group of people who probably knew each other well before creating this group. More than likely they have just stopped calling themselves LulzSec. They're just getting too much scrutiny most likely. I don't think this is the last we hear from them, just they won't be calling themselves LulzSec necessarily...

Re:I doubt it... (1)

Gideon Wells (1412675) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572650)

They likely knew each other to some degree to come out of no where like that. They hit big targets early on and many fast. They planned before hand and that requires some trust.

If you believe that LulzSec exposed blog, members of this group were active under the flag of Anonymous. They are now active under the flag of Lulzsec. They'll likely be as you said, under a new flag in the future.

Re:I doubt it... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36573252)

Now they have no name.

And you know what that makes them.

The Real Question... (5, Insightful)

Stormy Dragon (800799) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572590)

...is whether everyone else is done with Lulzsec. Unfortunately, they've likely pissed off the kinds of people who don't stop the game just because the opponent wants to quit.

It's better to burn out than fade away... (3, Interesting)

Bodhammer (559311) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572606)

Tyrell: The light that burns twice as bright burns for half as long - and you have burned so very, very brightly, Roy. Look at you: you're the Prodigal Son; you're quite a prize!
Batty: I've done... questionable things.
Tyrell: Also extraordinary things; revel in your time.
Batty: Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you into heaven for

i hope they dont quit (4, Insightful)

FudRucker (866063) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572634)

maybe change their strategy and mix things up to evade capture, the world needs benevolent black/grey hat hackers to dig up dirty laundry on the establishment, let the government & police know that if they do wrong that it will be found out and exposed for all the world to see...

Re:i hope they dont quit (1)

Dachannien (617929) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572772)

the world needs benevolent black/grey hat hackers to dig up dirty laundry on the establishment,

And you pick LulzSec as the most capable group for this? Hilarious.

Re:i hope they dont quit (2)

Salvo (8037) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572778)

The Information exposed by LulzSec was mainly just proof that these organisations security was too lax.
The only dirty laundry they wanted to expose was that these systems weren't secure.

The Paydirt for LulzSec was getting in in the first place, not any information they found.

They got hit back, so they ran (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36572642)

Pure and simple. People started attacking them back, so they close up shop before real harm gets done. check out Ars take on the whole thing, there are blogs of people who exposed people in the group big time. I'm willing to be the harm is done and some of them still go to jail. I certainly hope so, they deserve much worse.

busted one and broke the network (1)

defective_warthog (776271) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572654)

improve your backend before you start such endeavors.

Re:busted one and broke the network (1)

tqk (413719) | more than 3 years ago | (#36573284)

improve your backend before you start such endeavors.

Or, realize it's foolish to go poking sticks in hornets' nests if you're unwilling to suffer (or are ignorant of) the potential consequences. Oh yeah, that and two wrongs don't make a right. Those they attacked may be cheap, lazy !@#$s that we'd all be better off without (or who should just clean up their act, damnit!), but that doesn't give them a free pass when they decide to break the rules too.

Still, I can't think of many ways (legitimately) to fix the crap that they were purporting to fix. These days, it's simpler to accept that lots of stuff is broken and sucks. Life! Bail, and get another job (or vendor in the case of Sony). Soap box, ballot box, ammo box? I'd prefer the latter is kept locked up as long as possible, but I do identify with their frustration at the way things are turning out this century, and how little chance us peons have to affect change. Corps/shareholders/... shouldn't be so greedy and clueless, and I shouldn't be kept from upgrading a fscking Dev. server for a year and a half because my upgrades can't be fit in with the rest of the !@#$ the devs need to upgrade at the same time (true story, btw).

They'll be back... (1)

s0litaire (1205168) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572716)

Though "LulzSec" has disbanded. the members will probably merge back into Anon or start another group.
So expect a release on Monday as planned. It will just have a different name attached...

They think if they change their name it makes it harder for "the Suits" to catch up with them.

They may be right..........

BASIC Gorilla tactics 101:
10 Come together in a small group
20 Make a few big Bolshie attacks
30 Have a few lulz
40 Disband
50 goto 10

Re:They'll be back... (4, Funny)

theweatherelectric (2007596) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572822)

BASIC Gorilla tactics 101:

No, basic gorilla tactics are to live in troops in tropical and subtropical forests in central Africa.

Re:They'll be back... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36572896)

This might be the funniest comment I've ever read on Slashdot.

Hey s0litaire, what else can you tell us about how gorillas operate? You must be a zoologist because you seem to be an expert.

Re:They'll be back... (5, Funny)

Stormy Dragon (800799) | more than 3 years ago | (#36573218)

No, that's gorilla STRATEGY. Gorilla tactics is deciding who to fling poo at.

Re:They'll be back... (1)

AlienIntelligence (1184493) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572858)

50 goto 10

Thought it was bad programming to form goto loops?

=)

-AI

Re:They'll be back... (4, Insightful)

VortexCortex (1117377) | more than 3 years ago | (#36573026)

You, my friend, have clearly never played that game.

BASIC Gorilla tactics 101

The tactics are to look at the wind-speed meter, consider elevation, and then try an angle and velocity that will strike the opponent with your explodo-banana. Refine your velocity and angle per the rules of "playing the odds" guess too much one way, and too little the other, then extrapolate the correct angle and velocity by interpolation.

A quick search turns up this website that has a flash implementation of the game [kongregate.com] (covered with a skippable ad) that you may use to refine your "BASIC Gorilla" skills.

These are not the droids... (1)

Sfing_ter (99478) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572734)

These are not the droids you are looking for...
just sayin'...

What, the script-kiddies have enought? (3, Insightful)

gweihir (88907) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572738)

Pathetic really. The only thing different is that these idiots have big mouths. Which, I bet, will be their downfalls. Nothing they did on the hacking side is impressive at all. Competent black-hats know that one of the most dangerous things you can do is public bragging. Having an information-channel back is beyond stupid.

Fortunately, law-enforcement has very long memories and a lot of patience. It is just relatively slow. I predict that we will see them all begging for mercy. Might take months or years, but they were far to careless not to get caught.

Re:What, the script-kiddies have enought? (2)

Dan541 (1032000) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572884)

They even set up a telephone hotline.

Grammar Nazi swoops down! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36572790)

This follows 50 days chaos during which time it took down several websites

That should be either 50 days of chaos or 50 days' chaos (possessive, as in two weeks' notice).

Also, the phrase during which would have sufficed; during which time is verbose.

Grammar Nazi away!

Twice as much fun as... (1)

BodeNGE (1664379) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572798)

an advent calendar.

Done? (1, Funny)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572814)

What's the deal here - is it past their bedtime?

I heard LuLzSec was going to rig the elections... (1)

jftitan (736933) | more than 3 years ago | (#36572910)

Of course, if they are disbanding, then how can we know the elections will / wont be rigged?

  I mean, the electronic ballot systems are totally secure right? We absolutely got those things top notch secure, and protected from insider rigging right? I mean, we won't have any of that 2004, 2000 DIEBOLD election scandal happening again. At least we can rest assured that since LuLzSec is disbanding, their rumor of rigging the elections with the most obvious method to show corruption in the election polls that it could never happen. again... right?

  We all learned from the past right?

(hint hint... 2012 Elections are going to be rigged)

Guess they ran out of government funding (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36573176)

These false-flag operations cost a lot you know.

Why so scared? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36573180)

Only 25 Police Agencies and looking to turn you into a federal and state pound me in the ass pinata. Why you running bitches?

Don't worry. All they have is time and money and your mangina to stuff with negroid manmeat for 15 years. Enjoy your future stays in club fed.

lulzsec stopping (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36573310)

These basement dwelling morons are 'supposedly' stopping because they know the authorities are going to catch them and put them in jail.
Good riddance to teenage thugs who mention hitler and bin laden in their 'last' post.
What a bunch of misguided morons. They'll pose an insanity defense when they're caught and they _will be caught.
Prosecute the mom's and dad's too. They're just as culpable.

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