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Spanish Copyright Society Raided For Embezzlement

samzenpus posted more than 3 years ago | from the under-the-table dept.

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esocid writes "Senior officials in Spain's Society of Authors and Publishers (SGAE), the country's leading collection society for songwriters and composers, face embezzlement charges in the wake of a Friday raid on the organization's offices. Investigators say Jose Luis Rodriguez Neri, the head of an SGAE subsidiary called the Digital Society of Spanish Authors (SDAE), made payments for non-existent services to a contractor that then paid kickbacks to Neri and his associates. SGAE, the Spanish counterpart to American collecting societies like ASCAP and BMI, is known for its high fees and aggressive enforcement tactics. According to El País, 'the society has been often accused of exceeding its remit by going as far as to infiltrate private weddings to check whether fees had been paid for the music being played at the banquet.'"

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UTF8 fail (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36679640)

Sigh. There was even a UTF8 fail in the #AskObama thing earlier today.. Saddens me.

They didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisition (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36679646)

They criticize pirates but can't keep their hands out of the booty.

Re:They didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisitio (1)

dch24 (904899) | more than 3 years ago | (#36679690)

Wait and watch. The worst that can happen is the corporation will take the fall. The individuals will get off free (maybe with golden parachutes) a la SCO.

Re:They didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisitio (4, Informative)

Frosty Piss (770223) | more than 3 years ago | (#36679766)

...The individuals will get off free...

Embezzlement is different than excessive executive compensation and is illegal in most places. Note that TFA says there was a raid and that they face "fraud, misappropriation of funds and disloyal administration" and that a High Court judge grilled him for more than four hours over the charges.

I suspect that they will not "get off free".

Re:They didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisitio (2)

surveyork (1505897) | more than 3 years ago | (#36680064)

At least 3 SGAE/SDAE bosses are facing prison charges. Two of them are in prison now (they didn't pay their EUR 300,000 & EUR150,000 bailouts). Another one of remains free for now but he faces charges of up to 10 years for one of the crimes and 12 more for another one --at least.

Re:They didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisitio (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36683292)

If I steal 10,000,000 (assuming I was able to stash the money somewhere safe) and get 10 years in jail, I make 1,000,000 per year. This is more than most people make in a decade.

So what you're saying is... (1)

symbolset (646467) | more than 3 years ago | (#36680172)

So what you're saying is that the issue is differring views of how a reasonable person might interpret the contract.

Sounds like a civil matter.

/IANAFL

Re:So what you're saying is... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36683362)

You're a fucking MORON.

Re:They didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisitio (4, Interesting)

Inconexo (1401585) | more than 3 years ago | (#36680348)

You aren't from Spain, are you?

Even if it's proved that the used the royalties money to enrichen their consulting companies, I will not bet on they entering prison.

At least with politicians it is always more complicated than that.

Re:They didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisitio (1)

ArsenneLupin (766289) | more than 3 years ago | (#36680438)

Embezzlement is different than excessive executive compensation and is illegal in most places.

Depends on who does it.

Here in Luxembourg, the director of a charity (Transfair) affiliated with the ruling CSV party embezzled funds by buying fake services from her husband (who operates a web hosting company). She didn't get any problems from this...

A couple of month later, a member of parliament of the ill-liked ADR party does the same thing (gets a fake bill from a friend of his who operates an IT business, and gets that bill "refunded" by parliament), and he's sued and it's all over the news.

Moral of the story: if you want to embezzle, be affiliated with people in power.

Re:They didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisitio (1)

tehcyder (746570) | more than 3 years ago | (#36680580)

Moral of the story: if you want to embezzle, be affiliated with people in power.

The same is true of most crimes.

Re:They didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisitio (1)

Attila Dimedici (1036002) | more than 3 years ago | (#36681380)

Moral of the story: if you want to embezzle, be affiliated with people in power.

Just be sure that you don't embezzle from people who are affiliated with more powerful people than those you are affiliated with...or that your embezzlement raises a significant risk of reducing the power of the people you are affiliated with.

Re:They didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisitio (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36680706)

Fuck yeah they will get off free!
Sadly those fuckers have been charging 0.30 eur of every DVD I bought over the last 10 years. They got the money in their pockets and now will be rewarded with paid holidays instead of going to prison.

Re:They didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisitio (1)

Ramin_HAL9001 (1677134) | more than 3 years ago | (#36807846)

Those morons,
If they wanted to get off for free, they should have gone to the United States. In the USA, "freedom" means being a slave to one or more sociopaths (we call them "wallstreet bankers") who have the the right to steal everything you own and screw your wife and daughters right in front of your eyes. "Justice" in the USA means you can go to jail or loose everything you own for inventing something cool, or independently publishing music or videos.

I really don't know why ANYONE bothers committing crimes anywhere else in the world, the US government lets sociopaths get away with anything.

Hand Wringing? (0)

Frosty Piss (770223) | more than 3 years ago | (#36679716)

They criticize pirates but can't keep their hands out of the booty.

People in all sorts of organizations including many worthwhile charities embezzle funds. This situation might be superficially "ironic", but there is really little other connection.

Re:Hand Wringing? (1)

michiko (2270072) | more than 3 years ago | (#36679786)

Parent is SPAM (1)

Frosty Piss (770223) | more than 3 years ago | (#36679850)

Parent is SPAM

Re:Parent is SPAM (1)

tehcyder (746570) | more than 3 years ago | (#36680590)

No one's going to click on an obfuscated/shortened URL, I would assume it's goatse/tubgirl anyway.

Re:Hand Wringing? (1)

Inconexo (1401585) | more than 3 years ago | (#36680356)

Except that this association has acted in the last deade with an unlimited greed. They even demanded a play made by disabled people, for they wanted their money.

In retrospective, being so greedy in their work, it seems easy to guess they would be just as greedy in life, so they couldn't get their hands off the booty.

Re:They didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisitio (1)

xeon13 (2268514) | more than 3 years ago | (#36679734)

ooo.!!! use http://a.ly/5a [a.ly] for it ;)

Re:They didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisitio (1)

c0lo (1497653) | more than 3 years ago | (#36679776)

They criticize pirates but can't keep their hands out of the booty.

Making them privateers [wikipedia.org] outside the bound of their letters of marque, then? I say... hang them.

Re:They didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisitio (1)

Strider- (39683) | more than 3 years ago | (#36679862)

Making them privateers [wikipedia.org] outside the bound of their letters of marque, then? I say... hang them.

Might be hard to find a yardarm on their building though...

Re:They didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisitio (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36680256)

Making them privateers [wikipedia.org] outside the bound of their letters of marque, then? I say... hang them.

Might be hard to find a yardarm on their building though...

If for this, I'd pay for it from my pocket and be one with them.

Re:They didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisitio (1)

Coren22 (1625475) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688358)

They'll just get a contractor to install one for an inflated fee and kickbacks.

Re:They didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisitio (1)

Sulphur (1548251) | more than 3 years ago | (#36679916)

They criticize pirates but can't keep their hands out of the booty.

The captain's parrot got his claw in the tambourine.

--

Avast, nothing to see here. Move along matey.

Re:They didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisitio (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36679974)

Criminal organization does crimes. News at 11.

Seriously, what do you expect from organized crime? (= The record distribution [well, not anymore, that's the point], litigation and artist extortion industry.)

Re:They didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisitio (1)

tehcyder (746570) | more than 3 years ago | (#36680696)

Criminal organization does crimes. News at 11.

Seriously, what do you expect from organized crime? (= The record distribution [well, not anymore, that's the point], litigation and artist extortion industry.)

You might want to look the definition of "crime". Hint: it's not "somehing I disagree with"..

Re:They didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisitio (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36693274)

You might look at reality for once in your sorry life, and realize, that "crime" is "something that hurts someone else".
PROTIP: Copying information doesn't hurt anybody. That is a physical fact of resource management. But what those criminals do, DOES hurts EVERYBODY except for themselves.

QED, you sorry delusional loser.

Re:They didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisitio (1)

eulernet (1132389) | more than 3 years ago | (#36680484)

They criticize pirates but can't keep their hook out of the booty.

Fixed for ya.

Re:They didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisitio (1)

buanzo (542591) | more than 3 years ago | (#36681914)

Argentinian "SADAIC" does the same. They appear in parties, weddings, ANYWHERE, and check if fees had been paid. And if you don't settle with them $$$ immediatelly, they call the police to have the meeting shut down. And some artists defend them with all their heart, cause they're SURE they're not getting robbed by SADAIC. Brainwashed. Also, the other day, SADAIC got offended because someone was angry at them about a thing happening here called "taxes to storage-enabled devices, cause they can be used for piracy".... they got to KNOW who that someone was, and they called the company that employees him (an argentinian inter media isp) to have him shut up. Pathetic.

Re:They didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisitio (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36684902)

NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition! Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... Our *three* weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.... Our *four*...no... *Amongst* our weapons.... Amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise.... I'll come in again.

Re:They didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisitio (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36700162)

Wont be that simple getting rid of the crooks...there's always going to be replacements more than willing to raid a three years old's birthday party for an unpaid 'happy b*rthday". Am i ever glad i escaped the music cesspool.. er i meant business

Not surprising (2)

Windwraith (932426) | more than 3 years ago | (#36679708)

This kind of behavior is well-known, and the SGAE and all its branches are known to be leeches by several villages/small cities, they have even disrupted weddings in order to charge people for copyright violation...
Spain loves to imitate the US, but generally half-asses it, so it's not surprising for a RIAA-wannabe to be such a walking disaster.

However, despite everyone knowing they are leeches, they still have free action to do as they please. This will have little effect on their activities on the long run.

Re:Not surprising (-1, Offtopic)

kakarote (2294232) | more than 3 years ago | (#36679750)

Re:Not surprising (0)

xiayou (2316372) | more than 3 years ago | (#36679760)

so what UTF8 is fail u can get it now http://bit.ly/m2IHF4 [bit.ly] .!!!

Re:Not surprising (1, Flamebait)

Flipao (903929) | more than 3 years ago | (#36679878)

Spain loves to imitate the US, but generally half-asses it

Do you actually know anything about Spain?, because that statement makes no sense.

Beyond the obvious (Eating better, living longer, having clearly different political, institutional, educational and health systems). Spain's message against Piracy is not "don't steal or else", but rather "protect your culture".

The SGAE's "business practices" are indeed comparable to those of the ASCAP, only difference being, the justice system over there can actually do something about it.

Re:Not surprising (4, Interesting)

Hazel Bergeron (2015538) | more than 3 years ago | (#36680062)

Do you actually know anything about Spain?, because that statement makes no sense.

They've been relying heavily on American investment and northern European (little American) tourism since Franco, like all new conservatives, discovered trickle-up enonomics. This is built on the classical Catholic Spain of a few wealthy business-families enjoying special relations with the powers that be. So, I guess you could say that America imitated Spain, did a very good job of it, and then sold its success back to Spain.

Beyond the obvious (Eating better, living longer, having clearly different political, institutional, educational and health systems).

This is merely legacy. The direction is to the Amerian system. The EU is fundamentally a corporation of corporations in the American style designed to force its members to transfer state/national control to "free competition" amongst private companies. (These freely selected companies tend predictably often to be the same French or German behemoths.) And Spain's official line is that it loves the EU and should swallow its bait along with hook, line and sinker.

Spain's message against Piracy is not "don't steal or else", but rather "protect your culture".

Please justify. Spain is full of self-hate about its recent past while its youth are one of the most alienated in Western Europe. There's a lot of "protect the middle-age who have ridden the first wave of prosperity which ended about 5 years ago", but culture? Nah, fuck culture, everyone in that group was too busy buying second homes until the bottom fell out of the economy.

the justice system over there can actually do something about it.

Coming from a common law nation, I am quite scared by the thought of any justice system which consists entirely of a panel of professional judges. However, I acknowledge that Spain's judiciary has remained more impartial than I would have expected over the past half-century - it's not that the very well-connected won't always get off; it's more that fascist fetish for correct bureaucratic process hasn't been pierced. In Britain, law at this level is little more than ex-public school lawyer buddies having a well-paid debating competition while the jury is hoodwinked and the judge grins on.

Re:Not surprising (1)

Windwraith (932426) | more than 3 years ago | (#36680132)

Damn I wish I could give you a +5 informative automatically...

Re:Not surprising (2)

Inconexo (1401585) | more than 3 years ago | (#36680424)

That's unfair! We don't live only from tourism. We used to live of the housing bubble!

Re:Not surprising (1)

tehcyder (746570) | more than 3 years ago | (#36680732)

Spain is full of self-hate about its recent past

The hate comes mainly from people who would like to return to the "good old days" of Franco, and it's not directed at themselves.

Re:Not surprising (1)

Eenymeenyminymoe (2350794) | more than 3 years ago | (#36681112)

The hate goes both ways and is fueled and taken advantage of by both main political parties (who ultimately don't actually give a damn about such ideologies when they don't suit their purposes).

Same goes for the visible heads of the show business, who align themselves with the left parties (the main left party, actually, the one they can reap benefits from) as the cool hip trendy thing to do, while demonizing those that don't. Eg. see what happened to Russian Red when she said that she sympathized more with the right wing.

Re:Not surprising (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36680746)

... everyone in that group was too busy buying second homes until the bottom fell out of the economy...

And now they just complain instead of accepting the economic crisis was(mainly) their own fault in the first place.

Re:Not surprising (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36684788)

oh you are that old? like the old days.

sorry dud but Spain does much more than tourism (just ask the guys from Boing about EADS (which big part is in Spain)

take the DC or San Diego public transport (made in Spain)

Between high speed trains, Jets, military (oh forgot the biggest producer of slot machines is in Madrid)

Audi cars you buy in USA they are made in Spain

Please just do not be so condescend in things you do not know (worry about USA)

Re:Not surprising (1)

Hazel Bergeron (2015538) | more than 3 years ago | (#36685526)

And Talgo has been around since the '40s, way before the tourism boom. If you check out Aravaca you can just about make out the "Avenida del Talgo" sign in the street of luxury[tm] flats to remind you of where work used to occur. There are a few things Spain has done a great job of building, but its contribution is dwindling.

I couldn't give two hoots about military works - especially foreign ones: I've had enough of Spain being the factory and testing ground for flying war machines produced for empires in the north.

Re:Not surprising (1)

ga01 (1964398) | more than 3 years ago | (#36702916)

Best description I've ever read of modern Spain, specially about the justice system. SGAE members are both Editors and authors, its policies are not democratic, and editors privileges and rights are overrepresented over the authors.Their actions has been a National rip-off granted by the last goverments. And what about the King? Is he still hunting drunken bears in Russia?

Re:Not surprising (4, Insightful)

Windwraith (932426) | more than 3 years ago | (#36680088)

Yeah I happen to live there.

A lot of things are shaped as known trends in the US. It goes from TV to pop culture to business plans, and I have been seeing those since I was a kid, specially in IT where the latest coding trend is the latest coding trend...in the US.

And, anyway, SGAE's "message" against piracy is about protecting culture. But who is buying that? With the spokesmen they have, it's obvious they are there for the money.
Also they are the people that made storage media much more expensive with their digital canon, making production more expensive for amateurs out of their "protection". Indie stuff is culture too. And we are not protected, at all.

Re:Not surprising (1)

dbIII (701233) | more than 3 years ago | (#36680238)

Do you actually know anything about Spain?, because that statement makes no sense

Maybe the poster is Spanish so does not write in US English and used a bit of British slang (half-arsed) there as well - that's why I suspect you can not comprehend what is meant by that sentence while I can. If you do comprehend but just want to show off that you won some spelling bee or something then fuck off and read Shakespear until you understand that perfect spelling and grammar is not really all that important.

Re:Not surprising (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36680458)

...until you understand that perfect spelling and grammar is not really all that important.

A friend of mine has a psychology degree, and one of the things he has told me is that grammar, spelling, and language use are all signs of intellect. In other words, "write dumb, think dumb."

Re:Not surprising (2)

Windwraith (932426) | more than 3 years ago | (#36680646)

I absolutely disagree with his post, but in his defense, he is also Spanish (judging from the name) and just happens to disagree with the statement.

Re:Not surprising (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36680776)

used a bit of British slang (half-arsed) there as well

GP wrote 'half-assed' - that's not Brit slang.

If he has indeed written 'half-arsed' I could see your point. But no self-respecting Brit could get their mouths round the word 'arse' without pronouncing the r.

Re:Not surprising (0)

tehcyder (746570) | more than 3 years ago | (#36680790)

fuck off and read Shakespear until you understand that perfect spelling and grammar is not really all that important.

Just because in Shakespeare's time spelling and grammar were in a relatively fluid state does not mean that ignoring spelling and grammar now makes you the equivalent of Shakespeare.

Re:Not surprising (1)

dbIII (701233) | more than 3 years ago | (#36680900)

So, what does drawing such a conclusion from such a statement say about your level of reading comprehension? Forget Shakespeare, read anything at all and keep on reading until you get good at it.

Re:Not surprising (1)

Intrepid imaginaut (1970940) | more than 3 years ago | (#36679986)

However, despite everyone knowing they are leeches, they still have free action to do as they please.

If someone disrupted the wedding of one of my relatives for copyright reasons they would be free to count the teeth they used to have.

Re:Not surprising (1)

Windwraith (932426) | more than 3 years ago | (#36680110)

I'd like to think more people thinks like you. Our freedoms would be stepped on a bit less often.
Unfortunately hitting such a guy will end with you in trouble, being whistle-blowers, they will probably try to sue.

Re:Not surprising (1)

Intrepid imaginaut (1970940) | more than 3 years ago | (#36680332)

Let them go ahead and sue.

Re:Not surprising (1)

tehcyder (746570) | more than 3 years ago | (#36680800)

Let them go ahead and sue.

It's not America, they won't sue, they'll call the police and you will be convicted of assault and actual/grievous bodily harm (or whatever the equivalent in Spain is). And all because you have a bee in your bonnet about fucking copyright. Good work, mate!

Re:Not surprising (1)

hawkinspeter (831501) | more than 3 years ago | (#36681404)

It should be easy enough to gather around plenty of witnesses from the wedding guests to say that the other guy started the fight and that you were just acting in self-defence.

Re:Not surprising (1)

Intrepid imaginaut (1970940) | more than 3 years ago | (#36684316)

I have a bee in my bonnet about people spoiling the most important day of a young woman's life, especially for grubby reasons. And it would still be worth it, even if the judge didn't rule mitigating circumstances, which he or she would. Sometimes a good hiding is just what's called for.

Re:Not surprising (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36680804)

So you don't think that a group with millions of dollars behind them couldn't sue you into bankruptcy?

Re:Not surprising (1)

VAElynx (2001046) | more than 3 years ago | (#36680978)

Ahahahah... i dunno about Spain, but if they showed uninvited to a Slovak village wedding and tried to stir shit up... i bet that they'd leave with a blue eye and a kick in the arse.

Chicken or the Egg (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36679798)

Spanish have been singing many more centuries than modern anglo- Americans. Where did these strong arm tactics for this terrible methodology of enforcement origionate?

Dupes (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36680008)

GG slashdot - taking all of TorrentFreaks articles as your own news eh?

TF wrote about this on July 3rd
http://torrentfreak.com/music-rights-group-raided-by-police-bosses-arrested-for-fraud-110702/

In related news: IFPI is also in trouble (3, Informative)

surveyork (1505897) | more than 3 years ago | (#36680048)

IFPI Boss and CEO Accused of Tax Evasion in Germany http://www.zeropaid.com/news/94106/ifpi-boss-and-ceo-accused-of-tax-evasion-in-germany/ [zeropaid.com] After the SGAE, Germany investigates IFPI and its dome accused of tax fraud http://en.wikinoticia.com/Technology/general-technology/90182-after-the-sgae-germany-investigates-ifpi-and-its-dome-accused-of-tax-fraud [wikinoticia.com]

Re:In related news: IFPI is also in trouble (1)

mjwx (966435) | more than 3 years ago | (#36680168)

IFPI Boss and CEO Accused of Tax Evasion in Germany http://www.zeropaid.com/news/94106/ifpi-boss-and-ceo-accused-of-tax-evasion-in-germany/ [zeropaid.com] After the SGAE, Germany investigates IFPI and its dome accused of tax fraud http://en.wikinoticia.com/Technology/general-technology/90182-after-the-sgae-germany-investigates-ifpi-and-its-dome-accused-of-tax-fraud [wikinoticia.com]

Now that the US and Eurozone economies are in shambles, they are going after everyone, the bigger the better. In more prosperous times, this would have been swept under the rug for the price of a nice dinner and a movie ($225,000 according to the MPIAA).

It seems no matter how much you pay corrupt officials, they'll still turn on you at the drop of a hat.

Could you Americans please hang a few of them from streetlights so that the ones in well to do Australia remain scared.

Reminds me of the famous saying (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36680200)

Who watches the watchers...

Re:Reminds me of the famous saying (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36680336)

Dang it, this is slashdot. At least be pretentious enough to take the Juvenal version in latin: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes

how else are we supposed to be unrelenting elitist pricks all the time.

Re:Reminds me of the famous saying (1)

tehcyder (746570) | more than 3 years ago | (#36680834)

I think that, since Watchmen, it's hardly pretentious to trot out the "who watches the watchers" tag. More like geekily obvious.

Re:Reminds me of the famous saying (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36680888)

I think that AC was jokingly referring to the fact that it wasn't pretentious enough.

Not surprising (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36680226)

I don't think the people that run these organizations really have any type of ethics to begin with so it's very easy for them to move into truly illegal activity.

Re:Not surprising (1)

tehcyder (746570) | more than 3 years ago | (#36680840)

I don't think the people that run these organizations really have any type of ethics to begin with so it's very easy for them to move into truly illegal activity.

Funny, I'd say that people responsible for collecting and distributing royalties on copyrighted material to their owners were just doing a tedious but useful job on behalf of the artists. But, I know, this is slashdot, and if I want to listen to music it is my god given right to do so for free.

Re:Not surprising (1)

Dog-Cow (21281) | more than 3 years ago | (#36681200)

Your sig is oddly appropriate. Modern copyright law is theft by people who do not create or author anything except the very laws which enrich them. To support an enforcer of copyright is to support morally corrupt individuals or corporations.

Inquisition (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36680662)

Nobody expects the Spanish inquisition!

Nice slanted summary (2)

volpe (58112) | more than 3 years ago | (#36680926)

It seems to me that SGAE is the victim here. They were the ones from whom money was embezzled. The perps are the senior officials within that organization.

Re:Nice slanted summary (2)

cyberfin (1454265) | more than 3 years ago | (#36681008)

No. The victims are the authors who haven't received their share because corrupt administrators set up unfair payment rules and embezzled their money.

Re:Nice slanted summary (1)

Legal.Troll (2002574) | more than 3 years ago | (#36681372)

You know what's funny? The fact that that is not the story, that it has nothing to do with the story, and that the poster you replied to is absolutely correct. It's true that authors are victims, but they are victims in exactly the same way that the organization itself is a victim, and the rest of your comment is hogwash.

Leave it to Slashdot readers to find a story with a headline that says:

"Police raid Spanish copyright society in embezzlement case"

and change it to

"Spanish Copyright Society Raided For Embezzlement"

just because the latter is what they'd rather hear.

Re:Nice slanted summary (1)

esocid (946821) | more than 3 years ago | (#36682996)

Nice try. I changed the title to the latter, because the former didn't fit in the submission form, which you'd know if you ever submitted a link. -1 for crazy theories though.

Re:Nice slanted summary (1)

Legal.Troll (2002574) | more than 3 years ago | (#36690336)

Yeah, I can see how you couldn't have possibly reflected the story accurately, without misrepresenting it, in the space provided. GJ.

Re:Nice slanted summary (2)

Alioth (221270) | more than 3 years ago | (#36681492)

But it's those very senior officials who want things like Sinde's law (a highly illiberal law to shut down any website suspected of copyright infringement with little judicial oversight).

The SGAE is an emergent property of the people it is made up of, organizations only do things the people within them do. The very same people ripping off the artists (which is what embezzling SGAE funds is doing) are the very same people pushing for things like Sinde's law.

"Thieves" and a "miserable failure" (1)

L. J. Beauregard (111334) | more than 3 years ago | (#36683274)

Ladrones [www.sgae.es]

YEEEEEEES!!!!!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36694288)

No emoticon can represent the joy I feel right now

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