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Voicemail Hack Scandal Leads To Closure of UK Tabloid

timothy posted more than 3 years ago | from the wait-for-the-rename-and-reorg dept.

The Media 268

Some Bitch writes "Britain's biggest selling Sunday tabloid will close after this Sunday's issue. The tabloid has been embroiled in a voicemail hacking controversy for some time now and the news that they compromised the voicemail of a murdered schoolgirl and paid bribes to Metropolitan police officers for stories kicked off a renewed assault on the paper. The News Corp daily counterpart to Sunday's News of the World is the Sun; the domain sunonsunday.co.uk was registered two days ago."

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Fuck Rupert Murdoch (5, Insightful)

F34nor (321515) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688578)

Send that fuck a bill for Iraq while you're at it.

Re:Fuck Rupert Murdoch (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36689366)

I wish I could mod this UP. It seems a perfectly reasonable feeling to me.

I wonder if Rup calls his house "Xanadu" when no one is listening.

Can we close Fox News yet? (3, Insightful)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688584)

If the intolerable hyping and biasing of the Casey Anthony trial in complete disregard of the defendant's right to due process isn't enough, there's that whole ordering people to tell lies about science to bias legislation [mediamatters.org] thing.

Re:Can we close Fox News yet? (4, Insightful)

aardvarkjoe (156801) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688660)

If the intolerable hyping and biasing of the Casey Anthony trial in complete disregard of the defendant's right to due process isn't enough...

If you're singling out Fox News for that, you're nuts. Every single news outlet was doing exactly the same thing. It was disgusting.

Re:Can we close Fox News yet? (3, Insightful)

sconeu (64226) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688710)

Yeah. Isn't Nancy Grace on MSNBC?

By all that's holy, I cannot stand that woman!

Re:Can we close Fox News yet? (2)

amicusNYCL (1538833) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688916)

No; in her house at CNN, dead Nancy Grace waits dreaming.

Re:Can we close Fox News yet? (2)

Froboz23 (690392) | more than 3 years ago | (#36689020)

Nancy Grace has interpreted your statement as a death threat. You have been tried in the media and found guilty of attempted murder. Please report to your local police station for sentencing.

When asked for comment on the Slashdot death-threat case, Mrs. Grace replied "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Nancy Grace CNN wgah'nagl fhtagn!"

Re:Can we close Fox News yet? (3, Informative)

Penguinisto (415985) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688926)

She's on CNN [cnn.com] .
(My wife is unfortunately an addict of that damnable show).

Personally, I have zero respect for someone whose very paycheck apparently requires rhetorically feeding from the literal corpses of children, but that aside and to be fair, it wasn't just her, it was the whole damned channel's prime-time lineup: Dr. Drew, "Issues", and the rest of that particularly incestuous bucket of shows.

To be fair to Fox, they really didn't invest nearly as much time in the whole affair. I don't think MSNBC did all that much on it either, but in their case I don't know offhand. CNN on the other hand seemed like they should have named themselves the Casey News Network and been done with it. :/

Re:Can we close Fox News yet? (1, Insightful)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688670)

Wait what? News isn't always 100% fact and may contain opinion? The same thing could be said for CNN, MSNBC, the BBC or heck, even Slashdot. Nothing is without bias.

Re:Can we close Fox News yet? (5, Insightful)

frank_adrian314159 (469671) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688716)

Nothing is without bias.

Yes, but honest news outfits do everything in their power to minimize their bias, rather than reveling in it like Fox and the other NewsCorp properties do.

Re:Can we close Fox News yet? (1)

TheMrGordo (1746044) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688872)

Please point me to one of these "news outfits [that] do everything in their power to minimize their bias". That is something I have been looking for a long time. It seems that whether it is to the right or the left, there is always a slant / agenda.

Re:Can we close Fox News yet? (4, Insightful)

hairyfeet (841228) | more than 3 years ago | (#36689900)

Al Jazeera? BBC? Oh you mean an American news org? Sorry I've got nothing.

As for TFA? When you are hacking into and deleting a murder victim's voice mails, thus hindering an investigation, and bribing the cops for evidence? Then you've gone way past reporting the news into making it. Personally i hope that just because they close the doors won't stop the investigation and every single one who bribed or hacked gets a nice long jail term.

After all in these days of shell corps if you can kill an investigation simply by closing the doors I think we'll see a lot more of this crap in the future.

Re:Can we close Fox News yet? (1)

Penguinisto (415985) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688966)

Yes, but honest news outfits do everything in their power to minimize their bias...

Replace the word "bias" with "drama" and I'd call you a damned liar. :)

That said, where is this honest news outfit on US television* these days? They all seem rather wrapped up in their own particular slants, each catering to a clearly definable ideology.

* (the Beeb I actually have some respect for in this aspect)

Re:Can we close Fox News yet? (1)

dakameleon (1126377) | more than 3 years ago | (#36689084)

That said, where is this honest news outfit on US television* these days? They all seem rather wrapped up in their own particular slants, each catering to a clearly definable ideology.

Not that I live in the US, but surely there's some respectability still left at the news divisions of the broadcast networks, NBC/ABC/CBS? Or are those marginalised too?

That said, I think you'd be hard-pressed to suggest that CNN is catering to a clearly definable ideology.

Re:Can we close Fox News yet? (3, Insightful)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688992)

Right, and what "honest news outfits" are out there? None of them. Because quite honestly, no one really cares about news. The masses want their mindless celebrity gossip. The left wants to hear alarmist predictions about what republicans are doing, the right wants to hear alarmist predictions about what democrats are doing. Others want local "mush" stories about a three-legged dog, giving the elderly a free air conditioner, etc. But no one really wants facts and figures. And even if there is a market for facts, how do you even get reliable facts? Everyone with the capability to gather facts will always have an incentive to skew the facts. Even "neutral" organizations such as universities and publicly funded studies have a desire to gain more funds, which either means agreeing with the powers that fund them (usually the government) or being alarmist to gain more funds. Because, no funds mean no jobs.

Bias is human and as long as humans are involved in some way, news will have bias.

Re:Can we close Fox News yet? (2, Insightful)

artor3 (1344997) | more than 3 years ago | (#36690004)

False equivalency bullshit, as usually from Fox apologists. There's a difference of scale. Fox, and right-wing pundits in generally, are far more likely to demagogue than their left-wing counterparts. These are the people who actively pushed the idea that the Democrats were trying to set up "death panels" to kill off the elderly. Find me something on Rachel Maddow that is even remotely on par with that.

Re:Can we close Fox News yet? (-1, Offtopic)

FudRucker (866063) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688830)

her car smelled like death, the body was found with duct tape over the mouth, someone murdered that baby and i believe it was mamma (casey anthony) because having the responsibility of being a mother was getting in the way of her slut lifestyle she wanted to pursuit...

Re:Can we close Fox News yet? (1)

preaction (1526109) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688876)

And you have reached this conclusion after having listened to all the testimony, seen all the evidence, allowing her a full defense, and deliberated on it with a jury of your peers?

Re:Can we close Fox News yet? (1)

Inner_Child (946194) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688902)

Of course not! Due process is a laugh, the court of public opinion is the only thing that matters anymore.

And for the life of me, even I can't tell if that's supposed to be sarcastic or not. Makes me a sad monkey.

Re:Can we close Fox News yet? (1)

Toonol (1057698) | more than 3 years ago | (#36689386)

That's probably true. Doesn't mean finding her not guilty wasn't the right thing to do. The jurors were (1) more knowledgeable about the details of the case than you and I, (2) spent a lot more time thinking about the case than you or I, and (3) are being held to a much more stringent requirement of certainty than you or I.

I think she did it. I respect the jurors and their conclusion that there was not sufficient proof.

Re:Can we close Fox News yet? (1)

evilgraham (1020325) | more than 3 years ago | (#36689978)

Why precisely the fuck is this modded troll?

Seems like a perfectly fair comment to me.

shell game...? (3, Insightful)

Lead Butthead (321013) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688590)

so they close down one tabloid and move all the employees to another?

Re:shell game...? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36688632)

No... just the editor who was in charge at the time

Imagine Watergate... and all the secret service get shit-canned and Nixon keeps his job.

Re:shell game...? (4, Interesting)

Nick Ives (317) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688752)

Rebekah Brooks, née Wade, who was in charge at the time is already chief exec of News International. The current rumour mill is that the NOTW staff are being sacrificed in order to keep her safe. As to why Murdoch would go to such lengths to protect her, the thinking is that if she went then James Murdoch would also have to go. James Murdoch has admitted to paying settlements to silence people involved in the hacking affair; he claims that the information given to him at the time was incomplete and he didn't know the full extent.

Just so everyone is clear what's going on here, Members of Parliament have started talking openly about how they've been threatened by News International. A murder investigation into a private detective where the prime suspects were two other PIs with close ties to News International was interfered with by the NOTW. The former deputy features editor of the NOTW has openly admitted to bribing police to the tune of £5-10,000 for stories - something he doesn't believe should be illegal. Rebekah Brooks accidentally admitted to Parliament a few years ago that they regularly paid the police for stories, although in a clarification 6 months later that claim was retracted.

There's always been rumours around how Murdoch runs his empire, but now it's being blown wide open. News International runs more like a criminal conspiracy than a legitimate media organisation; they're basically gangsters.

Re:shell game...? (3, Interesting)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 3 years ago | (#36689096)

Closing down NOTW is being done for no more reason than to keep Murdoch's purchase of the remaining 60% of BSkyB on track. The government has announced a delay, and with David Cameron's close associations to key players (including Andy Coulson who was tossed from Downing Street in shame and now faces arrest), there is a push among many Tories and close supporters in papers like the Daily Telegraph to basically toss News Corp out of Britain. The general sentiment is that Murdoch has had an unholy influence on British politics and it's time for it to go.

Re:shell game...? (2)

Nick Ives (317) | more than 3 years ago | (#36689570)

Closing the NOTW also means they have a superficially legitimate reason to start destroying documents. The police really need to get in there now and start seizing paperwork.

It makes you wonder why the police have essentially given Coulson 24hrs notice that they're going to arrest him. It makes one wonder if they're giving him a fighting chance to get rid of much stuff as possible in exchange for not revealing the names of officers he could count on to bribe.

I'm not normally one for conspiracy theories but given the extent of the corruption revealed so far, it's difficult to imagine where it ends.

Re:shell game...? (2)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 3 years ago | (#36689812)

Considering that police have been implicated in taking money for scoops and in basically burying the evidence of illegal hacking, your conspiracy theory may not be far off.

Re:shell game...? (1)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688758)

Nixon only kept his job long enough to resign when he was about to be impeached. Time for you to watch All the President's Men again.

Re:shell game...? (2)

spitzak (4019) | more than 3 years ago | (#36689624)

I believe the GP was posting an alternative scenario to compare with the current situation, not a description of what actually happened after Watergate. He is saying that the current situation is as though Nixon fired the innocent members of the secret service and somehow saved himself and the plumbers.

Re:shell game...? (1)

MarkvW (1037596) | more than 3 years ago | (#36689688)

You should read your history. Nixon was playing the shell game super-big time. Listen to his speech where he announces the resignations of Haldeman and Ehrlichman--it is a classic.

And your "President's Men" tip is BS. The movie ends before the DRAWN-OUT Nixon endgame played out. If you were alive then, you remember how long it to get that vile crook out of office.

Re:shell game...? (1)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#36689944)

I was alive then, and I remember. And the movie is faithful to the facts, albeit compressed into a filmable timeline and without the latter stages more than mentioned at the end.

Nixon was on a pole the moment he started inveigling himself in the coverup, and came down the moment they got the axes out.

And he did fire a number of underlings to keep from having to admit his involvement.

It's worse (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36688696)

The innocent employees are being punished for the wrongs of their predecessors, and the executive, who was editor at the time is getting off free. Apparently, Murdoch had plans to close the paper anyway. He registered the domain for replacing weekend "News of the World" with "The Sun" (one of his other dailies) two years ago.

Re:It's worse (1)

newcastlejon (1483695) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688782)

Really? I'd heard it was two days ago. Sure it was word of mouth, but still more reliable than anything that was ever in that squalid little rag.

Seems that Inquisitus [slashdot.org] beat me to it.

It's just a re-branding (2)

presidenteloco (659168) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688976)

not a closure

the brand got torpedoed (in terms of goodwill)
so keep calm and carry on under a new name.
There's nothing new under the Sun.

Re:It's worse (1)

evilgraham (1020325) | more than 3 years ago | (#36690090)

Close the paper anyway? It is (by far) the largest-selling rag in the UK. Murdoch's media has basically corrupted the police and Parilament here, using, frankly, illegal means for years. This is a gang of prize bastards desperately trying to avoid an inevitible shitstorm. All these shitty little laws, which penalise strictly personal things, who do you think benefited from that all these years, and gave those unelected bastards power over the body politic (and you guys in the USA, google William Randolph Hearst, if you don't believe it happens).

These bastard are suddenly on the back foot. And, believe me, this is a good thing.

Hugh Grant knows the score (1)

tverbeek (457094) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688868)

I'm not sure why exactly they're quoting him (as opposed to any other famous Brit), but the BBC reports actor Hugh Grant saying "I think this is a cynical management manoeuvre".

Bingo.

Re:Hugh Grant knows the score (1)

Caesar Tjalbo (1010523) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688946)

Hugh Grant 'exposed [bbc.co.uk] ' the hacking. Well, in his world he did.

I'm mostly surprised that they more or less got away with tapping into nearly every one's voice-mail but only now did it become a fatal problem.

Re:Hugh Grant knows the score (2)

adamofgreyskull (640712) | more than 3 years ago | (#36689338)

The reporter, as noted in another comment, stated that Rebekah Brooks knew full well what was going on. His "exposé" may be lacking when held up against heavyweight investigative journalism, but I don't think it's to be sniffed at.

Secondly, saying "they more or less got away with [it]" is a little disingenuous. Firstly, it's not over. Secondly, there's been an ongoing investigation into the phone-hacking charges and these things take time. Now, barring a criminal conviction, you're right, I suspect Rebekah Brooks will keep her job at News International but ask the 100s of employees of the NotW if they feel like they've "gotten away with it".

The key is, get chummy with the future PM and the most powerful media magnate in the world and you have job security for life. Do what your told by your mad, King Charles coiffed harridan of an editor and expect to get shit-canned as soon as the wind-changes.

Re:Hugh Grant knows the score (1)

second_coming (2014346) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688954)

Hugh Grant was one of the phone hacking victims.

Re:shell game...? (4, Insightful)

Catmeat (20653) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688912)

so they close down one tabloid and move all the employees to another?

No, it's cleverer than that. The close a Sunday tabloid and move a small number of staff to the daily stablemate, just enough additional hands for it to operate effectively over seven days rather than six. The rest are fired, giving massive savings. The News Corp accountants are now punching the air, and the senior management making wry jokes about silver linings.

Hell, that may have been a long-term plan for a while. The scandal had just given them an excuse to bring the plans forward.

Re:shell game...? (1)

biodata (1981610) | more than 3 years ago | (#36689514)

I'm inclined to agree with this analysis. This is a vicious counterattack on both the employees and on those expressing disgust at the corporation's actions. It sounds like 'You want to fuck with our brand? well fuck you we are big enough to make a new one, and screw your national newspaper, it is just a vehicle for us to make money. You do not own your own national culture so get used to it.' I do think that they will contaminate the Sun brand with this though. They have made their move, it will be interesting to see what anon's response will be.

Re:shell game...? (3, Informative)

quarterbuck (1268694) | more than 3 years ago | (#36689930)

According to FT (sorry pay walled link http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/1a199004-a8d5-11e0-b877-00144feabdc0.html [ft.com] ) Murdoch was planning to convert his other newspapers (The Sun) into a 7 day newspaper by sharing content/news with TNotW anyway. As it is, his 4 newspapers share the same printing press and he often moves around editors/writers.
From the FT story
The second obstacle is that Mr Murdoch and Ms Wade had made known their plan to cut costs and overlap by bringing the News of the World close into line with The Sun as a seven-day operation. It seems likely that News International will resurrect the Sunday title as The Sun on Sunday.

Re:shell game...? (4, Interesting)

Zocalo (252965) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688950)

Actually, it's not so much the employees that interest me; it's the paperwork. Specifically, what is going to happen to all of the News of The World's emails, accounts and all of those other records that might be of use to, say, a public inquiry or police investigation? I can't help but wonder whether this knee jerk reaction on behalf of Rupert Murdoch is a desperate attempt at damage limitation because knowledge of what was going on goes a lot higher up the ladder than just former News of The World staff.

As an aside, The Guardian has a rather interesting piece [guardian.co.uk] on the use of private investigators by UK media from back in 2007 when things first kicked off. The NoTW only came in fifth behind those other stalwarts of quality UK journalism; The People, The Daily Mirror, The Mail on Sunday and, the run-away leader, The Daily Mail.

Re:shell game...? (1)

MattBD (1157291) | more than 3 years ago | (#36689022)

I have heard the suggestion that there may have been an attempt by someone within News International to destroy their data, which was held at a data centre in Chennai. Source: Channel 4 news, but also found this link: http://www.information-age.com/channels/it-services/news/1635983/hcl-denies-news-international-data-destruction-claim.thtml [information-age.com]

And Nothing Of Value Was Lost (2)

ConaxConax (1886430) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688598)

I for one cheered when I heard this. A horrid, awful, sensationalist piece of crap 'news'paper. Excellent! Good riddance to bad rubbish!

Re:And Nothing Of Value Was Lost (2, Insightful)

Skidborg (1585365) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688624)

Don't get your hopes up.

Re:And Nothing Of Value Was Lost (5, Insightful)

pluther (647209) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688646)

They're not really closing it, though. Just renaming it.

As a brand new organization, the new tabloid won't be tainted with the bad name of the old one. Nor, presumably, will it be subject to their lawsuits.

The fact that it'll be the exact same people doing the exact same thing is mostly meaningless from a business standpoint.

Re:And Nothing Of Value Was Lost (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36688792)

No. I'm pretty sure News of the World Ltd. is a dormant limited liability company. I'm also pretty sure that any legal action is being taken against News International. Also, it won't be exactly the same people. The woman who presided over the mess has already been promoted. A large number of employees at NotW will also likely be shit-canned.

Re:And Nothing Of Value Was Lost (1)

rainmouse (1784278) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688694)

I for one cheered when I heard this. A horrid, awful, sensationalist piece of crap 'news'paper. Excellent! Good riddance to bad rubbish!

Most news papers are to some degree or other, this one was just more than most. But also one of the largest news papers in the world. http://www.newspapers24.com/largest-newspapers.html [newspapers24.com]

Voicemail Hack Scandal Leads To Closure of UK Tabl (0)

omar.sahal (687649) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688602)

What I love about this is how the media (guardian news broke the story and chased it for years) has turned on other media outlets (murdoch press, news of the world), may the blood letting begin.

Re:Voicemail Hack Scandal Leads To Closure of UK T (1)

dakameleon (1126377) | more than 3 years ago | (#36689110)

You mean the press is doing *investigative* journalism? Viva la revolucion!

Re:Voicemail Hack Scandal Leads To Closure of UK T (1)

geniice (1336589) | more than 3 years ago | (#36689782)

The broadsheets are fairly happy to attack other papers. Its the tabloids which generally avoid attacking each other.

Nothing but PR (3, Interesting)

Chris Down (2350174) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688610)

This is the press equivalent of amputating a gangrenous limb to try and stop the spread of the infection, without even acknowledging that the rest of the body is already riddled with disease...

Re:Nothing but PR (1)

ObsessiveMathsFreak (773371) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688680)

Not even close. Most of the editors, journalists, and other staff will either be moved to other Murdoch publications, or else will have a six month sabbatical while the launch of "News Of The World 2: Paper without Honour or Humility" is carefully prepared.

This process is actually best compared to cutting out a festering tumour, and them transplanting pieces of it back into the rest of the body.

Not really closed? (0)

Timmmm (636430) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688614)

Apparently they are just renaming it to "The Sun on Sunday".

Re:Not really closed? (1)

TheOldestGit (859438) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688760)

It's just another way to attempt getting the purchase of the rest of BSB through without lots of delays & investigations.

The man is a cunt of the first order, and has trained his son well in the dark arts.

Between Junior & Senior they're throwing a lot of people overboard so the grand project of total control of news (printed & broadcast) is in their money grubbing hands.

NewsCorp has also just registered TheSunOnSunday - is that a bit of a giveaway that News of The World will come back under a new title (The Sun has never had a Sunday edition...)

I can only hope that the current boycott by advertisers & readers (I use that term loosely) carries on with the rest of that Twats publications, rather than a token one week protest.

Personally I stopped buying the Sunday Times many years ago when That Twat took over.

Crowdsource (0)

Slackcity (211117) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688634)

sunonsunday.co.uk
www.123-reg.co.uk
Let's crowdsource the security questions...

Think of the celebs! (1)

Pino Grigio (2232472) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688658)

Kerry Katona is going to have trouble keeping up with her mortgage payments now.

Voicemail Hack Scandal Leads To Closure of UK Tabl (0)

omar.sahal (687649) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688686)

Its also the fist time I've seen the media as the focus of the story. These guys should be shut down, they bribed the medical establishment (hugh grant medical records, as well as others) the phone companies (how did they get everyones numbers) the police (the man charged with leading the mets investigation into phone hacking now works for the Times (another Murdoch paper).

Re:Voicemail Hack Scandal Leads To Closure of UK T (0)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688720)

The Wall Street Journal is another Murdoch paper.

Can't imagine what they get up to in order to get decent stories on a street that does nothing without cash changing hands.

Hacking (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36688698)

Can we please stop calling this 'hacking'? All they did was guess the victim's voicemail PIN, which in many cases had not been changed from the default 0000, 1234 or whatever. No code exploits or special knowledge of the cell-phone network were involved.

Re:Hacking (1)

Hatta (162192) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688722)

Brute forcing and social engineering all fall within the realm of hacking techniques. There's no reason this shouldn't count.

James Murdoch alleged to off broke the law (1)

nibbles2004 (761552) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688746)

James Murdoch as a Director of NI, potentially broke the law in the UK based on statements made to Parliament over 5 years ago.

Re:James Murdoch alleged to off broke the law (3, Interesting)

Nick Ives (317) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688800)

He almost certainly broke the law. The regulation of investigatory powers act makes it an offence for a corporate body to engage in this kind of behaviour and holds directors personally responsible for connivance and neglect.

If James Murdoch let things happen on a nod and a wink he's guilty of connivance. Even if he didn't have that level of knowledge, failing to do a full internal investigation based on the allegations from five years ago is a clear sign of neglect.

Re:Hacking (2)

codegen (103601) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688774)

Actually, what he did in the case of the murdered girl was to fake the caller id record. Many voice mail systems do not prompt for a password when called from the persons home number.

Re:Hacking (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36688874)

I don't think it's as simple as that. A lot of networks block voicemail access from outside until the PIN has been set; I'd heard that the so-called hacking involved spoofing the caller ID, which is somewhat more serious, yes?

Re:Hacking (1)

zonky (1153039) | more than 3 years ago | (#36689868)

No they didn't. They spoofed caller ID - most people have voicemail setup to not require PIN if the caller ID matches.

Not just a schoolgirl (1)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688706)

The same paper has done it to celebrities as well. Apparently people didn't care as much when it was celebrities. In the newest revelations, it just wasn't a schoolgirl; it is alleged that the paper also illegally accessed the voicemail of the families of soldiers killed in combat.

Re:Not just a schoolgirl (5, Informative)

rainmouse (1784278) | more than 3 years ago | (#36689060)

The schoolgirl was arguably the worst however as they actually deleted some of her voice mails to make room for new messages to see what else they could dig up about the terrified friends and family. This is both deleting evidence in a murder investigation but also led the family to falsely believe she was still alive by thinking she was freeing up space on her voice mail.

Collateral damage (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36688708)

One weekly newspaper is almost small potatoes compared with Murdoch's other holdings. The scandal threatens to scupper a couple of impending 'big deals' so ... throw the paper under the bus.

We should not take this to mean that Rupert Murdoch has had any kind of change of heart. He's still the same big hearted wonderful guy he always was.

Lose a Knight gain a Bishop. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36688726)

The recent scandal has cast doubts over Ruperts News Corp's suitability to purchase BSKYB (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Sky_Broadcasting).

Clearly demonstrating his high morals will allow his supporter (and UK PM) David Cameron, to allow the move to go ahead.

Ruperts failings in new media (myspace, aol) spilling over to the traditional side of the house.

He is a kingmaker, especially in UK and will maintain his position with BSKYB. No doubt, there will be a replacement to News of the World as the ink dries.

Small beer (1)

petes_PoV (912422) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688780)

It make very little difference to Murdoch. Most of his money now comes from american interests: TV and this clears an obstacle in his quest for taking over even more satellite TV in the UK. He also knows that newspapers as a medium are dying so this is no great loss - for him or anyone else, except the people who worked there. Ironically, the current staff, who lose their jobs were probably the least guilty of all the spying/hacking accusations, since most of the ones that have come to light so far are from 5, 10, 15 years ago. Very few of the current staff have been there that long.

Re:Small beer (1)

Dan667 (564390) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688844)

murdoch is losing his grip, this is a major blow to him and will probably spread to his other businesses. If you think that only the news of the world is doing this in news corp you are crazy. I bet fox news is next for a scandal like this.

Voicemail Hack Scandal Leads To Closure of UK Tabl (3, Informative)

omar.sahal (687649) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688788)

Hugh Grant just called the Murdoch Empire a protection racket live on Question Time.

Re:Voicemail Hack Scandal Leads To Closure of UK T (3, Informative)

rainmouse (1784278) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688988)

Hugh Grant just called the Murdoch Empire a protection racket live on Question Time.

Strangely enough Hugh Grant, someone I previously disliked for his films has actually shown considerable stones in this whole debacle.

Re:Voicemail Hack Scandal Leads To Closure of UK T (3, Interesting)

geniice (1336589) | more than 3 years ago | (#36689734)

He has the advantage that we already know his private life isn't whiter than white and has in any case semi-retired from acting. There isn't much you could really threaten him with.

Good news, everyone! (1, Funny)

deadhammer (576762) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688828)

Can we somehow convince all of Rupert Murdoch's other properties to hack someone's voicemail too?

Re:Good news, everyone! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36689190)

I doubt whether such a project is necessary.

Re:Good news, everyone! (1)

rahvin112 (446269) | more than 3 years ago | (#36689312)

Do you honestly believe they aren't? Murdoch is single handily responsible for the division of American society, and yes I believe he's doing it intentionally.

Re:Good news, everyone! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36689996)

Reminds me of that one Bond villian.. What was his name again? ... Ah, yes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliot_Carver [wikipedia.org]

Re:Good news, everyone! (1)

biodata (1981610) | more than 3 years ago | (#36689544)

I've been thinking this too. It seems quite likely they are doing this in other markets. I guess it's all down to rumbling the PIs at the business end though, and getting hold of their records as happened in the UK.

One tablet down... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36688840)

Dozens or hundreds more to go.

Ha! Motherfucking fowl moths british (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36688888)

What is with brits and his fucking fowl mouthes? Ca'nt they go to a dentalist like normal villagers go? I for always say HALT!

Not a hack (1, Informative)

Zarjazz (36278) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688892)

<deep breath>Let's keep this /. related while I try to calm down from the state of induced rage I've been in from hearing the constant use of the work "Hack" in the UK media the past week when talking about using the default pin code for a mobile networks voicemail system. THAT'S NOT A %£^%£"%" HACK!!!! </deep breath>

Okay, I feel better for getting that off my chest.

How so? (1)

Daetrin (576516) | more than 3 years ago | (#36689062)

He used social engineering to figure out the code, thus circumventing the security and getting access to something he wasn't supposed to have. You're saying it wasn't a hack just because it was easy to do? Plenty of "real" hackers have broken into systems because the companies running them never changed the default password.

If big corporations want hacking systems and circumventing security to be a crime for us then it ought to be a crime for them as well, regardless of how hard or easy it was to circumvent that security.

Re:How so? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36689866)

He used social engineering to figure out the code, thus circumventing the security and getting access to something he wasn't supposed to have. You're saying it wasn't a hack just because it was easy to do? Plenty of "real" hackers have broken into systems because the companies running them never changed the default password.

If big corporations want hacking systems and circumventing security to be a crime for us then it ought to be a crime for them as well, regardless of how hard or easy it was to circumvent that security.

I guess you're young or unaware of the definition of hacker or hack.

Re:Not a hack (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36689196)

The caller ID was spoofed, so yes, it was a hack

Re:Not a hack (1)

biodata (1981610) | more than 3 years ago | (#36689580)

He did find out the mobile numbers of large numbers of people quite quickly it seems. I wonder how that step was accomplished.

News of the Screws (3, Interesting)

jambox (1015589) | more than 3 years ago | (#36688898)

Frederick Greenwood, editor of the Pall Mall Gazette, met in his club one day Lord Riddell, who died a few years ago, and in the course of conversation Riddell said to him, `You know, I own a paper.' `Oh, do you?' said Greenwood, 'what is it?' `It's called the News of the Worldâ"I'll send you a copy,' replied Riddell, and in due course did so. Next time they met Riddell said, 'Well Greenwood, what do you think of my paper?' 'I looked at it,' replied Greenwood, 'and then I put it in the waste-paper basket. And then I thought, "If I leave it there the cook may read it" â"so I burned it!' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_of_the_World#History [wikipedia.org]

2nd comment same story (1)

nibbles2004 (761552) | more than 3 years ago | (#36689028)

problem with NOTW is they actually did do some good Journalism at times, and did expose some important scandal's, but morally you don't delete the voice-mail of a murdered girl, you do not listen in on British War widows, and that's why the NOTW had to die, don't care about the celebrity hacking , but kudos to Hugh Grant , secretly taping them.

oh well (1)

obarthelemy (160321) | more than 3 years ago | (#36689144)

Coincidentally, he just announced he is soon launching a brand new paper: Wews of the Norld. Appearances are everything.

3rd post same story (1)

nibbles2004 (761552) | more than 3 years ago | (#36689162)

on the political side of thing's i[m more right then left, but i am so glad this delusional , incompetent Rubert Murdoch is finally being exposed as a sad old man with very little future ahead of him, think Myspace, how much did you lose on that RM , this is the thing why do people, politicians fear News International , their idiot's, they have no influence, and yes there idiots.

British News (1)

sunfly (1248694) | more than 3 years ago | (#36689208)

Wait.. they are going to arrest editors in Britain?

Phone Hacking? (4, Funny)

pev (2186) | more than 3 years ago | (#36689322)

I must say that I'm quite surprised that no-one technically minded has yet managed to raid Mr Murdoch and Mrs Brooks voicemails and publish them on YouTube. I'm sure there must have been some juicy irate messages left and would be a most apt thing to do.

Hang on, didn't them crafty LulzSec buggers have a request-line...?! Anyone got the number?

Re:Phone Hacking? (1)

AmberBlackCat (829689) | more than 3 years ago | (#36689546)

No, that group was only around to convince people the United States needs an internet "killswitch", more restriction, and less privacy on the internet. They would never be deployed to take down a conglomerate that hurts people.

Boycott the Sun. (1)

Rhodri Mawr (862554) | more than 3 years ago | (#36689434)

Anyone believing that the News of the World is not the Sunday Sun is completely deluded. To deny this would be like claiming that "The Sunday Times" is not "The Times" published on Sunday. If Murdoch is allowed to simply open the Sunday Sun then nothing will have changed.
Murdoch has closed the paper not least because the advertisers were leaving the paper like rats leaving a sinking ship. The BBC claims that "Leading brands, including Sainsbury's, Ford and O2, pulled their newspaper advertising and shares in BSkyB fell on fears that the scandal could hinder parent company News Corp's bid for the broadcaster."
What we need now is a concerted campaign to persuade people and equally importantly advertisers that the News of the World is indeed the Sunday Sun and if the NotW should be boycotted, so should the Sun.

Of course there is one group of people who have known before this scandal broke that the Sun and the Sunday Sun are evil papers and have been campaigning against them for many years. They are of course the Hillsbrough Justice Campaign. After the evil things the Sun printed after the Hillsbrough Tragedy in 1989 there has been a boycott of the Sun and it's sister paper on Merseyside and amongst Liverpool supporters ever since. If you're unfamiliar with the boycott you can find out more at http://www.contrast.org/hillsborough/history/media.shtm [contrast.org] In summary, if you live in the UK, boycott the Sun. Don't buy the paper and don't read the paper. Tell your friends not to buy the paper or visit their website. Pick up a couple of broadsheets in your local newsagent or supermarket and put them on top of the pile of Sun newspapers so that they don't get seen or bought. Contact companies such as Sainsbury's, Ford, O2 and their competitors too and ask them to drop their advertising in the Sun as well in response to the vile actions of the Murdoch press. Do not let the Murdoch Press maintain the illusion that the Sun was not complicit in these actions. Do not let The Sun off the hook. Instead, reel them in, gut them, top and tail them and barbecue them.

Re:Boycott the Sun. (2)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36689814)

The Sunday Sun is a Newcastle Upon Tyne based newspaper that has nothing to do with The Sun or News International.
http://webwhois.nic.uk/cgi-bin/whois.cgi?query=sundaysun.co.uk

I agree that boycotting the Sun and the Sun on Sunday is a good idea though.

The way it should be (1)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 3 years ago | (#36689598)

A company commits a crime, they should be gone, and anyone directly responsible have their professional reputation smeared for life.

No different than if a person commits a crime, the go to jail.

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