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Google eBooks-Integrated E-reader Out On Sunday

Unknown Lamer posted more than 2 years ago | from the ereader-burnings-considerably-more-toxic dept.

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minutetraders sends word of an announcement from Google. Quoting: "Starting this coming Sunday, July 17, the iriver Story HD e-reader will be available for sale in Target stores nationwide and on Target.com. The iriver Story HD is the first e-reader integrated with the open Google eBooks platform." It appears iriver has released source for the GPL components on the device, unlike the last time around.

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No, they did release the source (-1, Troll)

harrypotdot (2368906) | more than 2 years ago | (#36741860)

Here [thoughts.com] you can find it

Re:No, they did release the source (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36741896)

Need more creativity in naming your goatse troll links. Why are they always /geekatwork/? Nobody's going to fall for that.

Re:No, they did release the source (0, Troll)

harrypottdot (2368912) | more than 2 years ago | (#36742036)

1829 victims disagree with you (fell for it via thoughts.com goatse link). Besides thats not a goatse link, but rather a shit eating guy (a mac user) from http://www.themacuser.org/ [themacuser.org]
(567 victims so far).

And in total I have much more more that 11,000 victims (11,817 victims on last link to http://goatse.ru/hello.jpg [goatse.ru] ) and few thousands victims on goatse links via other sources (eg goatse.fr that is defunct now) plus ~500 victims on each of tubgirl,hai2you, and now that mac user that I troll now (567 victims and counting)...

So....nobody fell for it?

And just wait and see, soon I will be on vacation and will troll full-time. I won't be just using thoughs.com or just using goatse, I will scan shock sites and prepare you something you really would wish that you didn't see.

Re:No, they did release the source (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36742128)

What's the point? I mean, if I click on a link that shows me some gross picture, I don't get all upset about it; I just close the tab and move on with life. Do you derive enjoyment from wasting a few seconds of my time every now and then? It just doesn't seem very significant.

Re:No, they did release the source (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36742166)

That person is a child, do not expect sense.

Re:No, they did release the source (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36742188)

You don't get upset, but many do. I keep a list of their responses. I can wank over it for hours.:

Funny:
"O neat, you quoted me! Now I have to ask, why do you do this? seriously whats the motivation?"
"1999 called they want their overused shock pictures back."
"Parent post is a goatsex picture. Do not follow. You're an asshole of the proportions in that picture."
"Link above is to goatse. Fuck you douchebag."
"Turn on TinyUrl previews. It saves lives."
"Ugh. Goatse. NSFW. Asshole (poster and picture, both)."
"Seriously ... new account to post that ... what a douche!"
"You're a fucking douchbag." - "That is the most accurate comment yet"
"Not gonna click it to find out, but I'd be surprised if parent's link wasn't goatse... It appears you would be correct sir. Why oh why do I always forget..."
"My word, what is wrong with your anus? I'd get that checked out."
"It's because of Assholes like you that I can no longer trust URL shorteners"
"Thanks, I'm reading slashdot in class like a good student and just got tubgirl'd."
"Watching second monitor, there was something wrong with the other screen. Control + w. Phew..."
"Hey family! Come look! They're opening the Google Talk client! Now, click here......" (sees goatse)
"I tried to post warnings about the goaste loving jerk yesterday but was modded into oblivion as a karma whore"
"Posting your picture online again?", "Really? Are you not tired of this yet?"
(Me posts goatse link and tells that it is SFW): "You mean NSFW asshole."
"Can you not afford normal entertainment?" "This is grown up talk, 4chan is that way ->"
"Oops. goatse link" - "The AC speaks truth! (Well I didn't let it finish loading, but the browser was connecting to goatse.ru...)"
"He likes his urinal cakes nice and sudsy, so he tries to piss us off."
"Link is Goatse" - "Thanks. Does nerd soccer attract nerWhy the fuck would you post something like that? Warning to all: scatology in its worst form. Do not look.d hooligans?"
"You must be really bored, eh? Take your shit somewhere else. We don't serve your kind around here."

Hate:
"Motherfucker. Some of us are at work and don't want to have a drilled out anus pop up on their fucking screen. Christ."
"BAN HIM!" "Ur a faggot for posting that."
"Death to all assholes - Let's put you first into the guillotine"
"You fucker" - "I had the same thought as you. What a fucking asshole. The link is nsfw."
"I hate your guts.", "WTF you fucking asshole.", "Fucking troll, do not click there"
"I hope you die in a fire before you are old enough to contaminate the gene pool."
"It would be more interesting if I had a piece of pipe and your face, in close proximity so I could smash your face beyond recognition,"
"Bravo teeny bopper. You're a really mature mother fucker (or do you prefer father fucking? Damn you homo erotic shittter)."
"Wait! I think I hear your mommy calling to give your tongue a good soap washing. And maybe she'll execute you too"
"I did not even bother to look, but this same idiot has been doing this for weeks now. Fuck off asshole."
"Asshole. literally. Goatse is so old. Grow up you fool."
"Asshole... Ginormous asshole, in fact." "Ugh. Goatse. You asshole."
"Better than you, you arse bandit." "You're a lowlife faggot piece of shit."
"Ah, a sheep troll. "Baaa! I post disgusting photos! Baaa!"
"I hate you"

"First time testemonies:
"Wow, all these years I managed to avoid seeing the goatse.cx guy, priding myself on my resilience to clicking on random image links from friends and trolls alike, taking comfort in the fact that I could identify a shock JPG based on a few lines of pixels while the holding the clipped window at the edge of my screen, and yet... now it's all for naught."

"After all these years, I finally fell for it. Just off to bleach my eyes.. thanks for that."
"Damnit, mod this guy up before GP gets any one else. My eyes, dear god my eyes, I'd managed not to see that until today!"
"WARNING: Don't click on the parent's link! Damn goatse! The first I experienced, no less.
"Parent is goatse. Dammit, and I've avoided it for a decade."
"ALERT ! goatse ya got me :("
"The fuck is a goatse? it's some dude pulling his arse open."

Testimonies:
"Well done. I haven't been suckered into a goatse link in years."
"Now *that* is how you goatse. Even got me, and I'm an oldfag."
"Long time since I've been rickrolled with goatse!"
"Goatse URL - Haven't seen that guy in a while"
"Damnit! nearly 15 years reading /. and I still fall in a goatse.cx trap !"
"Well played, sir. It's been a while since I've been Goatse'd"
"Congrats. It's been a long time since I saw goatse."
"Looks very open to me... (congrats, 'twas a while ago I was goatsed the last time)"

Strong emotion:
""No ads? Kwel!" click... "WTF!! My eyes!!!! rip.... them.... OFF!!"
"FUCK.YOU.ASS.HOLE."
"i WAS eating lunch you ass!"
"Oh dear god my eyes. Haven't seen THAT awful image in a while."
"My eyes are burning... argh! Damn you!"
"MY EYES... dude i am at work here "S "
"Oh goddammit. I didn't need that right before bed."
"Goatse warning! I'm still recovering."
"Please friends, I beg of you, do not click that link! Do not look at that image, whatever you do! It is a bad image! It is a goatse image."
"Man you made me barf .... disgusting little fellow the GOATSE Guy"

Dumbassess talking:
"Oh wow, retro-trolling. Soon we'll be back to page-widening, Steven King is dead and bell bottoms."
"Hey moron, try using different links."
"You fucking piece of shit!" , "You sorry piece of shit.", "You cunt.", "Fuck you." "Get fucked"
"What a retard..... enough said...." "Nice. Asshole."
"Yup, this is what your life amounted to. Posting goatse on Slashdot and collecting comment trophies."

Frustration:
"Can someone make a fucking goatse blocker firefox plugin please? This is pissing me off now."
"I am sick and tired of that crap on /. "
"Don't visit the link above, everyone. -sigh- Especially at work."
"Doh! One has to also recognize data urls. *sigh*"
"Damn! Mod this fucker to hell"
"*sigh* Goatse alert..."
WTF? where do you get turds that big?

Philosophy:
"Goatse trolls are getting better these days..."
"Why the sudden coordinated campaign for Goatse? Is someone making money off this?"
"You're right, this is the most coordinated troll campaign in a long time. Multiple accounts, multiple pages."
"Urgh...dammit, am I the only one thinking the goatse trolls are getting worse lately than they have been in the past five years?"
"Who found a way to monetize goatse at this late date? If we got half the effort of that campaign on real stuff we'd all have better software by now."
"Boy Goatsex is out in force today... - Every topic is littered with them..."
"You can't actually expect the Slashdot users to actually know enough not to respond to a goatse troll, right ?"
"Can we start banning people who post that hiding it behind a url shortening link like goo.gl?"
"How many times are you going to spam this link? Like we don't know where that goes......"
"The GP's post is just to get you to click a link with the Goatse man's picture on it."
"One of these days, this asshole gonna have a hard drive crash and lose his precious list, consigning his life's work to oblivion. He'll probably kill himself."

Admiration:
"Cool goatse link bro"
"Giggles. That made my day. Thank you."
"You are one dedicated troll."
"Well played, sir. Well played."
"A link that redirects to a page containing goatse? How clever of you!"
"Thank you for that informational link"
"Interesting use of Data URLs for Goatse linking."
"Nice Goatse dude"
"Good one, Sir."
"Nice link to have!"

Funny warnings:
Why the fuck would you post something like that? Warning to all: scatology in its worst form. Do not look.
"Would advise against clicking the link in the troll post above. Especially if you're at work atm."
"Link Warning!!! Not for those at work or of a nervous disposition, or even those bored with the stupid Goatse image."
"You really don't want to click the fundamental link, you'll be scarred for life."
"Above Link NSFW... The picture was just wrong... wrong..."
"WARNING! Above link is not something anyone wants to see!"
"Parent should be modded down. Link is NSFW and mentally scarring."
"High likelyhood of being a Goatse link. Proceed with caution"
"Didn't click it, but the magic 8-ball says goatse."
"Danger, goatse" "Don't click the link! Goatse wannabe."
"Someone please mod this guy down... Don't click his link."

Misc:
"Just post the damn url, i'm not going to click on a tinyurl link and get goatse'd or something.."
"That's somewhat clever, but some of us do know what base-64 encoding is."
"Could not someone at slashdot write a small script to blacklist url's that have been flagged troll? I'll do it if you pay me a slave wage..."
"Mod to -1, please. this guy is an 'asshole'.... (yes, you guessed it)"

Re:No, they did release the source (0)

creat3d (1489345) | more than 2 years ago | (#36742200)

What's the point? I mean, if I click on a link that shows me some gross picture, I don't get all upset about it; I just close the tab and move on with life. Do you derive enjoyment from wasting a few seconds of my time every now and then? It just doesn't seem very significant.

I was about to ask the same question. I got on the internet in the mid-90's, there ain't much that's gonna "shock" me nowadays. What's the point?

Re:No, they did release the source (1)

LordLimecat (1103839) | more than 2 years ago | (#36744404)

One usually imagines trolls as being gleeful because they ruined people's day without having to put any effort in.

But here you are putting all this effort into trolling... which makes it more sad, than anything. I mean, about 10 seconds after clicking goatse the person will simply move on with their day; to waste so much time on a pointless endeavor, how bored must you be?

"over-the-air" ? (0)

rta (559125) | more than 2 years ago | (#36742068)

Since when is WiFi considered "OTA"? Wi-Fi is a fine feature but it is a lame marketing tactic to use it in a context where it suggests that you have cell coverage when you don't.

Re:"over-the-air" ? (1)

spaceplanesfan (2120596) | more than 2 years ago | (#36742108)

Besides, isn't WiFi transferred by electromagnetic waves and thus need to air? Or they transfer data using ultrasound?
(For dense, that is a joke)

Re:"over-the-air" ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36742386)

Please don't mod me down for 'need to air', I mean 'need no air'

Re:"over-the-air" ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36742260)

Since when is WiFi considered "OTA"?

OTA is commonly used to refer to the ability to manage a device through the use of wireless networks (including WiFi), without needing to physically plug a device into a computer. It has nothing to do with cell coverage.

Re:"over-the-air" ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36742372)

Lame marketing tactics pay off. Like "Retina Display", "AirPort", "Time Capsule".

No Thank You (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36742450)

Google Books are in the Adobe DRM format. I've already had a bellyful of that. You must have it In order to check out ebooks from the local library. Which means that only Windows and Mac OS machines can do do. Some of us do quite well on other platforms, thankyouverymuch.

B&N recently did a stealth upgrade of the Nook OS that wiped out all my settings. After recreating them, the Adobe book manager refused flatly to re-acknowledge my Nook and the book I'd just checked out was useless, as would be all future checkouts. It didn't love my Nook anymore and never would again.

I deleted the Adobe software, powered the Windows box back down and found a Gutenberg ePub on my main computer. Screw it. The whole library ebook concept is fatally flawed. Who in their right mind would believe that you need a waiting queue for an ebook?

I tolerate the Nook's ePub DRM because if (or more likely when) they move on, I can decrypt the books I've bought and continue to enjoy them instead of having my entire library evaporate overnight.

And NO I don't go for eBooks with a shrink-wrapped EULA in them either. Treat me with respect and I'll keep buying books. Don't expect me to pay hardbound prices, and realize that often the difference between "ShareMe" and not shareable will make or break a purchase.

Re:No Thank You (1)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 2 years ago | (#36742684)

My understanding is that only their pay-for books are thus DRMed. They also have that vast catalog of(often esoteric, and sometimes imperfectly scanned; but generally beats having to tromp down to the nearest university library that won't give me a nasty look) scanned public domain stuff. Also epub format; but the only restriction appears to be having to solve a CAPTCHA before downloading...

The announcement of yet-another-DRM-ebook service is a bit of a yawn, point-and-click loading over wifi of all kinds of interesting scanned articles is why I hacked the Google Books android application onto my Nook.

Re:No Thank You (2)

Inner_Child (946194) | more than 2 years ago | (#36742800)

Funny, I've been using Linux to check out e-books from my local library for several months, at least. And B&N's DRM is just as easily defeatable as the ADEPT scheme. Please don't bother posting ignorant comments unless you've bothered to do a rudimentary search first. Hell, the page where you get the info for removing B&N DRM? It's the same as for removing ADEPT! Not to mention there are plugins for Calibre that make it a simple matter of dragging and dropping the DRMed files into Calibre, and getting wonderful DRM-free files out the other side, nicely organized, too.

Re:No Thank You (1)

Rashkae (59673) | more than 2 years ago | (#36744196)

By no means would I ever encourage anyone put up with DRM. However, for those interested, it's worth knowing that Adobe Digital editions works great on Linux via Wine, (and as a bonus, De-DRM tools are able to extract the key it uses to fix the DRM)

Re:No Thank You (1)

Captain Hook (923766) | more than 2 years ago | (#36746404)

Which means that you have paid for a crippled format which although you can decrypt still gives the publishers the idea that DRM is acceptable.

I wont touch DRM on books even if I can decrypt them because I think it sends the wrong signal about acceptable behaviour.

As someone who mostly reads books in bed (1)

Flector (1702640) | more than 2 years ago | (#36742458)

It's going to be hard to beat swiping across a touch-screen to change pages.

Re:As someone who mostly reads books in bed (2)

shutdown -p now (807394) | more than 2 years ago | (#36742528)

As someone who also mostly reads books in bed, it's hard to beat physical "next/previous page" buttons conveniently located on the edge of the device (as in Kindle). Swiping the screen requires moving the thumb, whereas with buttons you can hold your fingers on "next" and just push as you need.

("too lazy?" hell yes, that's why I read books in bed in the first place!)

Re:As someone who mostly reads books in bed (1)

Flector (1702640) | more than 2 years ago | (#36742590)

As I think about it,e- readers should have microphones so you can whistle or make other sounds to change pages.

Re:As someone who mostly reads books in bed (1)

shutdown -p now (807394) | more than 2 years ago | (#36742656)

I think that would get tiresome real quick.

Nah, what I'd want is some kind of wireless switch, conveniently shaped such that it can be clutched in a fist, with a single button for "next page". That way you can keep your hand under the pillow (or wherever is most convenient) while reading, without having to reach out to the device to flip pages.

Re:As someone who mostly reads books in bed (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 2 years ago | (#36743056)

Naw, it should be an eye motion detector. when you look at the bottom of the page, it automatically changes

Re:As someone who mostly reads books in bed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36743062)

As I think about it,e- readers should have microphones so you can whistle or make other sounds to change pages.

TURN PAGE OVER!

Re:As someone who mostly reads books in bed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36743296)

Or, for slashdot users:
"Computer, initiate subsequent page activation"

Re:As someone who mostly reads books in bed (1)

MartinSchou (1360093) | more than 2 years ago | (#36743274)

I can't say I've tried other readers, but the iPad doesn't require you to swipe either. Just touch the side. Both in the iBook and Kindle app. You can, but you don't need to

Honestly I'd be surprised if any other touch screen tablet would require you to swipe to turn the page.

Re:As someone who mostly reads books in bed (1)

shutdown -p now (807394) | more than 2 years ago | (#36743328)

Yes, normally you tap the side. Unfortunately, due to the nature of capacitive touchscreens, you can't just rest the finger at that spot and push harder to press, since even the slightest touch is registered. With hardware buttons, you can do that, though how convenient that is depends on where the buttons are located; my favorite still remains Sony PRS-505 [skylarknetworks.com] , where you had three (!) sets of forward/back buttons in different locations, so you could always find one that's convenient for your pose, whether lying, sitting or standing.

Re:As someone who mostly reads books in bed (1)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 2 years ago | (#36743514)

I'm almost surprised at how Sony managed to go from being among the most interesting players in the dedicated e-reader business to a pathetic, overpriced, also-ran in such a relatively short span of time. They were practically the only people making e-ink readers of any size and quality, back when 'ebook' still usually meant "Project Gutenberg on my Palm Pilot"(not that there's anything wrong with that, weasel reader 4 lyfe!). Now the market has all kinds of exploded and I haven't even seen a Sony display model in at least a year(in context, I see probably a dozen kindles, 2-5 nooks, a few ipads, and I-known-not-how-many assorted smartphones on my average daily commute, so it isn't a market-acceptance problem...)

Re:As someone who mostly reads books in bed (1)

shutdown -p now (807394) | more than 2 years ago | (#36743688)

Well, Sony readers are featured pretty prominently in all Best Buys I've seen in the last few years, so it's not all that bad... but ultimately, I think it boils down to the fact that stores for Kindle and Nook are that much better (in both amount of content, and convenience of use).

For Kindle, in particular, it's tough to beat its 3G OTA shopping, and the convenience of having it synchronize across all your devices - I read with DX at home for that large screen convenience, but I also have a v3 for when I go out, and occasionally I also use Kindle app on my phone when I unexpectedly end up in a queue somewhere.

Re:As someone who mostly reads books in bed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36744256)

I'm almost surprised at how Sony managed to go from being among the most interesting players in the dedicated e-reader business to a pathetic, overpriced, also-ran in such a relatively short span of time. They were practically the only people making e-ink readers of any size and quality, back when 'ebook' still usually meant "Project Gutenberg on my Palm Pilot"(not that there's anything wrong with that, weasel reader 4 lyfe!). Now the market has all kinds of exploded and I haven't even seen a Sony display model in at least a year(in context, I see probably a dozen kindles, 2-5 nooks, a few ipads, and I-known-not-how-many assorted smartphones on my average daily commute, so it isn't a market-acceptance problem...)

I believe part of the reason is that the Sony e-readers turned out to be a bit too fragile. I was certainly intimidated by the swathes of horror reports of long waits to get them fixed, and frequent breakages.

Re:As someone who mostly reads books in bed (1)

teh kurisu (701097) | more than 2 years ago | (#36746114)

I kinda feel sorry for Sony, because they have been doing some things right with their latest batch of e-readers. They got Pearl e-ink devices to market at around the same time as Amazon did, and they came with those infra-red based touchscreens long before the latest Nook.

Ultimately what I think has hurt them is the lack of wireless, and hence a lack of integration between their devices and their store. Kindles and Nooks are sold as an entire package (iPads too to some extent), whereas a Sony Reader is only half of what you need.

I think Waterstones are still pushing Sony readers in the UK, because they have a compatible e-book store. And because the Nook is unavailable here, that puts them second in the market. But it's a distant second behind the Kindle.

Re:As someone who mostly reads books in bed (1)

jgoemat (565882) | more than 2 years ago | (#36779590)

Yes, normally you tap the side. Unfortunately, due to the nature of capacitive touchscreens, you can't just rest the finger at that spot and push harder to press

Dear God, how did you survive when you had to actually turn a page?

Re:As someone who mostly reads books in bed (2)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | more than 2 years ago | (#36743494)

I have both a kindle2 and regular touchscreen tablets/phones/etc.

the finger swipe is 'cool' but you know, its tiring and not all that efficient.

kindle got it right. I hate giving amazon credit but they got it right.

Re:As someone who mostly reads books in bed (1)

Serious Callers Only (1022605) | more than 2 years ago | (#36745272)

the finger swipe is 'cool' but you know, its tiring and not all that efficient.

On iOS at least you don't have to swipe at all, you can tap the edge of the page - so you could easily navigate without moving your hands from the edge of the device.

Re:As someone who mostly reads books in bed (1)

ncc74656 (45571) | more than 2 years ago | (#36744862)

As someone who also mostly reads books in bed, it's hard to beat physical "next/previous page" buttons conveniently located on the edge of the device (as in Kindle).

Tapping the left or right edge of the screen is sufficient to change pages with the iBooks app. I think that also works with Stanza...not so sure if the Kindle app supports it, or if it only knows swipe-left/right. With an iPhone at least, tapping either side with the thumb of the hand that's holding it is easy enough.

Re:As someone who mostly reads books in bed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36754624)

As someone who also mostly reads books in bed, it's hard to beat physical "next/previous page" buttons conveniently located on the edge of the device (as in Kindle).

Tapping the left or right edge of the screen is sufficient to change pages with the iBooks app. I think that also works with Stanza...not so sure if the Kindle app supports it, or if it only knows swipe-left/right. With an iPhone at least, tapping either side with the thumb of the hand that's holding it is easy enough.

Then you just get to deal with reading a book on a terribly small screen for reading books. GO, GO iPHONE!

Re:As someone who mostly reads books in bed (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 2 years ago | (#36743042)

More movement means being brought out of the story more.

Swiping is horrible vs a convienant button.

Not too bad. (1)

Hadean (32319) | more than 2 years ago | (#36743870)

I had a chance to check out the iRiver Story HD (at CES 2011 and recently) and it is a good product, on par with other e-readers today (though I think I still prefer the Kindle and the side buttons, even if the screen was a little better). I just wish it and Google eBooks were available in Canada so we would have some good competition in the e-books realm. I'm looking at publishing my first novel (Rawmesh, http://www.rawmesh.net/ [rawmesh.net] [rawmesh.net]) soon and want to have it primarily as an e-book (and print on demand), but I would like a few more options up here sooner rather than later...

I tend to like iRiver’s products, though I have to admit that I’m not a big fan of how this e-reader looks -- and I’m not the only one (http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/07/google-and-iriver-make-worlds-ugliest-e-reader/). One issue I have is with Google’s epub eBooks themselves -- sometimes the OCR software is having a bad day, and the books have some odd (or hilarious) mistakes in them. Evil or not, I’m sticking with Amazon (for now).

Re:Not too bad. (1)

e3m4n (947977) | more than 2 years ago | (#36746084)

so what was battery life like on it? One thing that I absolutely love about my kindle3 is that I can turn off the wifi and 3g after charging it up and read for damn near 6wks straight @ 2hrs / night without having to charge up. And thats while using the built in LED reading light integrated in the cover 30% of the time. Having to keep the ipad charged on a damn-near daily basis just doesnt compare. When you factor in eye strain vs e-ink's no-strain reading I've been very happy with my kindle3. Granted some of my reading has come from other sources other than amazon.com but thats OK too.

Re:Not too bad. (1)

Hadean (32319) | more than 2 years ago | (#36746522)

Exactly a reason why I still like my Kindle. Unfortunately, I never got to play with it long enough to see how the long the battery would last, though I was promised it would be equivalent to other e-ink readers (in the weeks with regular use and wi-fi turned off). The original iRiver Story lasts about 9000 page turns, so I'm guessing this would be similar.

Considering... (1)

Sinthet (2081954) | more than 2 years ago | (#36743960)

$140 isn't all that much, plus its open-source. I've been wondering if these e-book readers are any good, and this seems like a pretty good deal, not to mention the Google books integration. If it turns out that its hacker friendly, I'm definitely getting one.

Kobo touch beat it to market for less (2)

Rashkae (59673) | more than 2 years ago | (#36744266)

Unfortunately for Google E-books, Kobo has already released the Touch. It took the compnay 3 tries, but they finally got it right. You can tap the side of the page to turn page (Sony requires a swipe if you use the touch screen, which does becomes tiresome by comparison.)

You probably won't see it on display models, (unfortunately), but with the new firmware update, it also allows you to install your own fonts, (as well as a built in selectoin of 5), as well as the ability to adjust page margins and line height to your comfort. And it sells for less.... so yeah, this device is too little too late.

sorry, don't want my page-by-page reading stored (3, Informative)

The_Laughing_God (253693) | more than 2 years ago | (#36744426)

After a year of increasing interest, I'll be buying a reader or tablet this week. I almost pulled the trigger 3x this weekend, but each time found a better deal on a better model -- though ultimately, *any* of the the three, in hand by the end of next week, will be adequate

I was excited to read about this release. It felt like a serendipitous alignment until I realized that I wouldn't have actual possession of ANY file, just a 'service' feeding me a page at a time -- and Google is quite clear that it logs each page I read and when (it touts this as a feature, saying they record it so I can pick up on the same page of each of my ebooks on any other device).

Do I want to be cut off from all my eBooks in wifi or wireless outage? No. That's when I'll want a book or manual most --- during an outage, in a plane, in the woods, in a lab or shielded room... Do I want anyone monitoring and recording exactly what pages I read or re-read and how often, tech or fiction? Nope.

I'm amazed /.ers take this so lightly

So much for serendipitous fortune. This reader is off my list, until it's hacked to keep Google OUT unless invited

Re:sorry, don't want my page-by-page reading store (1)

dargaud (518470) | more than 2 years ago | (#36748060)

Do I want to be cut off from all my eBooks in wifi or wireless outage?

Without even looking at the specs, it's a safe bet to assume that there's gonna be a cache for offline reading on that thing.

features I'm waiting for (3, Interesting)

bcrowell (177657) | more than 2 years ago | (#36744946)

Features I'm waiting for before I buy an e-book reader:

1. I'm not touching anything with DRM, because any book I buy with DRM is virtually guaranteed to be unreadable in four years.

2. A decent selection of books.

3. Good support for books with equations in them.

Iriver apparently fails #1. The WP article on google ebooks [wikipedia.org] says it's touted as open, but actually uses DRM.

A quick search [google.com] for books by an author I like shows that only a small fraction of his books are available, so fail on #2 as well.

All epub-based formats basically fail #3. Dunno about the formats supported by google ebooks.

Re:features I'm waiting for (2)

jtownatpunk.net (245670) | more than 2 years ago | (#36747344)

Ya know, I dislike DRM as much as the next guy (actually way more than most next guys since I know what it is and what it represents) but, at some point, you're just going to have to get over it and remove the DRM from whatever you decide to purchase. Once a DRM scheme is standardized, The Man is locked into a specific method of protection which can be easily bypassed.

1) DRM exists and it's not going away any time soon. What the smart consumer wants is fast adoption within the industry so hackers can get busy making tools to circumvent the chosen "protection" ASAP. Removing the DRM from my ePub purchases takes all of several seconds per title. After that, I can use Calibre to convert it to any format I want so I can move it to new platforms in the future. Beats the hell out of refusing to move forward because the path isn't laid out exactly the way I want.

2) If you don't mind pirating, you can find just about every popular book available online for free. The lack of popular titles in online storefronts is the fault of back-asswards publishers who think they're selling paper rather than content. If they won't pull their heads out, buy a paperback copy and download a pirated version. At least the author is still getting their miniscule cut of the action if you do that. I've even found a few particularly popular titles which have better pirated ebooks than legitimate ebooks because fans have taken the time to do a good job with the layout.

3) Layout is something you'll have to take up with the publishers. Until they pull their heads out, there will be problems in this area. Also, the current generation of dedicated book readers don't have the pixel density necessary to properly simulate a printed page. Until you start seeing pixel counts that match what you get on a laser printer, it will be difficult to create ebooks that look as good as the printed versions without significantly reducing the amount of content on the page. The FORMAT is not the problem. It's the lack of effort put into creating a proper LAYOUT that looks good on the available readers. All of the major formats are quite capable of being used to present a quality reading experience when an effort is made to design a presentation that is tailored to the output device. Shit in, shit out. It doesn't matter what format publishers use if they don't make a proper effort to create a layout that looks good on the final output device.

Also, DRM doesn't have a darn thing to do with being "open". All sorts of "open" projects involve encryption and access controls. I don't know where people get the idea that a project or product can't be considered open if it involves controlling data access and distribution.

Disappointing Device (1)

ITMagic (683618) | more than 2 years ago | (#36747374)

Although I can't comment on the iRiver Story, I do have the Cover Story. For anyone interested, these are my thoughts on it:

The technical specs were (for me) pretty much perfect. It was most definitely a purchase made on specs, rather than having the product in my hand prior to buying it. But I have a lot of niggles - which renders the device somewhat less than perfect...

First, the good stuff. DRM is not an issue - for me, at least. That is an Adobe thing, and I don't have any DRM'd PDFs. The device should handle most of the (normal) formats you can throw at it. It is touch screen, with WiFi.

But that's all. Forget the "Open Source" crap. Sure, it's linux. But the download link is an odd .jpg of the GNU preamble, with an iframe for the actual license text. The links to sources are odd javascript, pointing to old versions hosted god-knows where. I can't see the tool-chain and anything else required to actually compile a working binary. Not that that would help, because I haven't worked out how to gain root access - which you need to. The fonts installed are useless for anything other than standard US English (major complaint).

What else? Crap battery life. Turn off the WiFi, and you might get 24 hours of reading time (but I can't). I know some people complain about the touch screen, but I can live with that, just.

All in all, the average user should avoid this device like the plague. Hell, I'd even recommend the kindle above this, at least for usability (despite the kindle/1984 intrusion). *If* someone manages to write a HOWTO about jailbreaking it, and compiling user software (or iRiver have a more helpful attitude), then it *might* be an interesting toy. DRM on this device is so insignificant a problem that you can ignore it - I suspect that Google would not really want to promote this ability, anyway. It's the encrypted kernel firmware that gets my goat.

Dead on arrival (1)

DrChandra (82180) | more than 2 years ago | (#36747396)

No audio, so it can't double as an MP3 player like Kindle. You can't use it to read audio books, which is a great thing to do while driving the car. Amazon downloads Audible.com books directly via Wifi into Kindle.

I like the better display, and the Wifi download, and the SD card slot.

I'd like it more if I could be sure it's running Android, like the Nook, so I can maintain the OS after they stop doing so. I see some GPL, but can it be built and installed on the device?

Sorry, but it's missing some of the key things that Kindle has, so it doesn't compete well, at least not for me.

If I'm wrong about any of these facts, blame the website, where they don't seem to like going into much detail. Oh, and buy an 's' once in a while will you? A plural word like "Products" is what we expect when referring to more than one Product, Feature or Specification. Bad English isn't stylish, it's annoying.

It's a Kindle... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36747890)

Is it just me or does it look almost exactly like a Kindle? Even the fonts are the same.

A Step Backward (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36752778)

I just think this is a step backwards for Google. Shouldn't they be investing in the future of the Cloud by embracing what makes eBooks and everything else about Google great? We need companies like Google to resist the temptation to compete directly with the Kindle and think more seriously about expanding their already widely accessible media content. If I can already read eBooks on my laptop, my iPad and my Android phone, then why do I need a specialized device?

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