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In other news (4, Insightful)

MaskedSlacker (911878) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765452)

consumers are stupid. Film of them accidentally hitting themselves in the balls at 11.

Re:In other news (0, Flamebait)

Soilworker (795251) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765506)

Normal consumers are already stupid, now imagine consumers who buy stuffs based on hype and look instead of actual performance.

Re:In other news (1)

mikael_j (106439) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765630)

Implying people who buy Apple products are somehow dumber than people who buy products from other manufacturers.

Yeah, or people just aren't up to all the technical details of their phones. Hell, I'm willing to bet most people don't even know the model of their phone, as amazing as that may sound to a slashdot user...

Re:In other news (1)

oakgrove (845019) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765952)

My only question is, what is Apple to do about the marketing quandary when they drop the iPhone 5? If people think the 4 is 4G, that's not really Apple's fault so why waste it by bumping the number? Maybe iPhone 4S is in the future.

Re:In other news (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36765728)

Hype affects people in two ways. First are the people who believe the hype and pay too much for a bad product. Second are the people who don't want to be seen as believing the hype, and refuse to own a good product.

Like it or not, Apple puts out innovative products that work well, and have a minimum amount of crapware to deal with. Spec sheets are great, but what matters most is usability.

Re:In other news (0)

cashman73 (855518) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765544)

Cue all the "Android users are smarter" posts in 3 ... 2 ... 1!

Re:In other news (2)

teslafreak (684543) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765586)

Simple test. Ask iPhone users about a component in their phone ("What kind of processor is in that?") See what they say. Now ask an Android user. They won't all know, but more of them seem too.

Re:In other news (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36765672)

And what kind of relevance does it have? Does knowing this in any way enhace your experience using the device?

Re:In other news (1)

teslafreak (684543) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765816)

Does knowing it enhance the experience? Of course not. It does show that you may have done some research rather than just buy the one with the shiny apple logo on it.

Re:In other news (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36765694)

"I, of course, have no idea if this is actually true, but it falls in line with my own biases so I believe it."

-You

Re:In other news (1)

teslafreak (684543) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765864)

Where at all did I state it to be factual? If I didn't assert it as a fact, then it can't very well be "true". The statement was quite clearly said in my bias, and everything anyone believes falls within their own bias. So, yes.

Re:In other news (0, Flamebait)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765858)

Well they have more time to know their components better. The iPhone users are too busy with their higher quality apps. The android phone you just got you shortly realize you cant do much so you spend time reading the tech specs to make you feel happy you put money in such a device.

Re:In other news (1)

teslafreak (684543) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765932)

A bunch of the apps are published to both platforms, that way the business can sell to two user bases. Also, my phone is mostly a phone, why would I want all that crap on it exaclty?

Re:In other news (1)

BadPirate (1572721) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765668)

FTFA - Android users who think they have a 4G phone when they don't... 29%

Cue consumers are dumb posts....

Re:In other news (3, Informative)

_0xd0ad (1974778) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765842)

Actually TFA pointed out that the Android users were the only ones who could correctly answer that they "already own one", since there are 4G Android phones on the market (such as the HTC Evo 4G and the Samsung Infuse 4G). There is no such thing as a 4G iPhone or Blackberry; they don't exist yet.

Re:In other news (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36765844)

FTFA - Android users who think they have a 4G phone when they don't... 29%

Cue consumers are dumb posts....

Psssst. they make 4g Android phones.

credibility (1)

Xtifr (1323) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765764)

This goes to the credibility of the witness, your honor. The iPhone user likes to claim that he's better, smarter, funnier, cooler, more sophisticated, better equipped, and more likely to get laid than the rest of us. We now know that the smarter part is a lie. :)

Re:credibility (1)

Reverand Dave (1959652) | more than 2 years ago | (#36766046)

Excellently stated sir. You can clearly see a large amount of bile on both sides of this issue, but the greatest out pouring seems to be when you challenge the key point to the "MacLife" concept that they are indeed savvy consumers.

Re:In other news (1)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765796)

How much stuff do you purchase without hours of research and knowing the full detail on what you are getting?
Most people don't know the difference between 3g and 4g except for it suppose to be faster. The iPhone 4 is faster then the 3g so it must be on 4g.
If you are not interested in the area, there is a degree of ignorance that you deal with. I bet those people will look at our purchasing decisions on some other product and laugh at us for choosing such a product because we weren't fully educated. Eg. Snooty Wine people.

Re:In other news (1)

MaskedSlacker (911878) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765934)

How much stuff do you purchase without hours of research and knowing the full detail on what you are getting?

Very little, but then I purchase very little. I don't buy shit just because. Clothes and books are the only thing I don't spend hours researching before buying, but even then I put a lot more effort into only buying stuff that actually suits my needs/wants than most anyone else I know.

There's a difference between my buying two-buck chuck because I'm a binge drinker who doesn't intend to taste it, and me thinking two-buck chuck is good wine. I have no disrespect for the person who bought the iPhone 4 because they wanted the iPhone 4. I don't have much respect for the rube who thinks he bought something he didn't (with some leeway for deceptive marketing, which I don't think applies here).

Re:In other news (1)

bennomatic (691188) | more than 2 years ago | (#36766108)

You make a good point, although I'd suggest that deceptive marketing does apply here, considering "4g wireless" is a marketing term that covers a wide variety of technologies, some of which are slower than what is possible under "3g" speeds.

Re:In other news (1)

Score Whore (32328) | more than 2 years ago | (#36766090)

Are you sure it's the consumers that are stupid? Maybe it's the pollsters asking the wrong questions. When I buy a computer, I don't buy it in order to run windows, or run linux, or run mac osx, or run solaris, I buy it to run world of warcraft, or to run ms office. The underlying technology is relevant, but not the point and for the most part I don't need to know the details. Whether my OS uses a unified VM subsystem, COW pages, or ZFOD just isn't that important to me. In the same fashion, what the wireless technologies my phone uses are far from the most important attributes of my phone. I want to know whether it's a smart phone or not, whether it supports the features I desire.

I personally know that my iPhone 4 isn't a 4G device. But I really don't care and I certainly wouldn't expect people to know these sorts of details if they aren't just phone nerds.

Why not... (1)

synapse7 (1075571) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765462)

All the carriers seemingly overnight started advertising their respective networks as 4G, so what difference does it make.

I can't wait for Apple's new 5G phone! (0)

EraserMouseMan (847479) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765468)

Made with Liquid Metal.

Re:I can't wait for Apple's new 5G phone! (1)

macraig (621737) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765652)

A phone made from mercury might actually be the first phone truly capable of causing cancer. Did you really have to give them the idea?

Re:I can't wait for Apple's new 5G phone! (1)

Ferzerp (83619) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765804)

Except mercury (while awful on a body) does not cause cancer. Well, it might, in high doses that are going to kill you in other ways anyway.

Re:I can't wait for Apple's new 5G phone! (1)

macraig (621737) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765956)

Okay, fine... then it will create a new generation of autistic people and make people write funny!

Typical Mac user... (-1, Flamebait)

madhatter256 (443326) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765484)

Typical Apple user and their "ignorance is bliss" lifestyle....

Everyone knows that for all the current features in android phones to be avaliable on the iphone, apple has to release 4 more iphones....

Re:Typical Mac user... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36765706)

Typical troll and their "ignorance is bliss" lifestyle....

The confusion isn't limited to just one handset.

Re:Typical Mac user... (1, Insightful)

Moridineas (213502) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765768)

And you're what, the typical Apple hater who is too smug to even RTFA?

34% of iPhone owners think their phone is 4g. Whereas only 29% of Android owners think they have a 4G phone (ok, a few Android owners do have LTE phones). That 5% sure prove how Apple users are dumb and Android owners are elite.

You did get one thing right--someone here is definitely living in a world of "ignorance is bliss," but I won't surprise you by telling you who it is.

Blame the phone companies (2)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765486)

Even their "4G" networks aren't 4G.

4G is suposed to have "peak data rates of up to approximately 100 Mbit/s for high mobility such as mobile access and up to approximately 1 Gbit/s for low mobility such as nomadic/local wireless access, according to the ITU requirements."

LTE advanced release 8 currently supports up to 300 Mbit/s maximum

Re:Blame the phone companies (2)

Baloroth (2370816) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765588)

That's okay, you can't really use that much speed what with 5 GB (maximum) data plans anyways. Really, you should be thanking the carriers that their speeds are so low, it makes going over the cap so much harder!

Re:Blame the phone companies (1)

That Guy From Mrktng (2274712) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765762)

What? Doesn't 4G mean that the phone can send and receive 4 gs (consonants) of data at the time? I also hear by a cow-orker that 4G means that the phone actually resist 4 G's (gravity) of acceleration and thats why every pilot uses one including astronauts and nascar drivers, I mean, can you imagine trying to hold it right on the middle of a nascar crash?? Certainly a feat of technology that I don't know if I'm worthy of using.

Signed
Clueless semi concerned consumer

Isn't that exactly who the iWhatever is aimed at. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36765490)

People who don't know, don't want to bother to know and need someone to tell them what to buy,how to dress etc..

Not suprising (0)

teslafreak (684543) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765510)

This is the kind of people with iPhones, you know, the type too stupid to have bought an Android based phone.

Re:Not suprising (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36765582)

This is the kind of people with iPhones, you know, the type too stupid to have bought an Android based phone.

Congratulations, you've just made the case that people who buy Android phones are arrogant assholes!

Re:Not suprising (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36765620)

This is the kind of people with iPhones, you know, the type too stupid to have bought an Android based phone.

Says the retard with a UID > half a million.

Re:Not suprising (1)

Moridineas (213502) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765808)

If you had wasted the time to RTFA, you'd see 29% of Android owners think they have 4G phones already. Obviously a few of them do actually have LTE phones, but not many yet. I really don't see why so many people make choice of cellphone an "us versus them" "you're either with us or against us" type moment.

Re:Not suprising (1)

teslafreak (684543) | more than 2 years ago | (#36766146)

I didn't really (and generally don't). I own an iPad (which is really just a big iPhone sans the phone part anyway). I have to support both iPhones and the plethora of Android devices at work, and it is true that we have less problems with the Android stuff (even taking the ratio of users of each into account). It's just fun to gibe people.

Re:Not suprising (1)

the linux geek (799780) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765840)

The kind of people with Android-based phones are the ones too stupid to have bought a real Linux based phone, like an N900 or even a LiMo device.

Re:Not suprising (1)

teslafreak (684543) | more than 2 years ago | (#36766006)

I was all hyped to get an N900, but I just read about too many issues. Pretty sad really, the thing looks like a beast.

Re:Not suprising (1)

That Guy From Mrktng (2274712) | more than 2 years ago | (#36766000)

Well I don't have an iPhone and probably never have one and I have an android tablet, but, Are you really trying to say that Android users are smarter after we are reading about people installing spyware and shit on theirs? Are you reverse-trolling?

uh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36765526)

we all realize that "3G" and "4G" are bullshit (or bulshytt, if you've read Anathem) terms anyway, right? The "4" in "iPhone 4" might as well stand for "4G", because why not? "4G" doesn't mean anything anyway.

How many even know that 4G is? (1)

rednip (186217) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765532)

How many even know what 4G is? or that Apple isn't yet using that standard.

Re:How many even know that 4G is? (1)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 2 years ago | (#36766020)

That's what I was going to ask. Of the remainder, how many actually know the definition of 3G or 4G? I'd have to look them up. On the other hand, I can tell you the data throughput that my phone can manage, which seems like a more relevant bit of information.

So? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36765534)

99% of people couldn't care less about it as long as it does what they want it to.

Re:So? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36765822)

And how many of them know what they want? 1% maybe?

Apple's fault (1)

YodasEvilTwin (2014446) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765548)

I'm not one to argue that Apple users are intelligent, but this is Apple's fault for mixing "third generation iPhone" with "third generation mobile network" in their naming. It's obviously much easier to conflate the ideas than it is to dissociate them. Of course, this works in their favor. Just like it works in the carriers' favor to call their 3G and 3.5G networks "4G". Consumers are dumb.

Re:Apple's fault (1)

Moridineas (213502) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765848)

So if it's "Apple's fault" then why do 29% of Android users believe they already have 4g phones. Whose fault is that?

Consumers are dumb. ALL consumers. People who try to draw these non-existent dichotomies between people based on cellphone choice are just as dumb (I'm not saying that you're one of the people doing this--just a lot of other posts here).

Re:Apple's fault (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36765920)

Except they didn't

1st gen : iPhone
2nd gen : iPhone 3G
3rd gen : iPhone 3GS
4th gen : iPhone 4

Their naming pattern doesn't follow what you are describing. This is simply a case of vast swaths of humanity having the intellectual capacity of a rutabaga

Are there even 4G phones yet? (2)

artor3 (1344997) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765556)

My understanding was that the name had been co-opted as a near-meaningless marketing term.

4G in non-4G areas (1)

tooyoung (853621) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765558)

I wonder what percentage of 4G phone owners living in areas without 4G coverage think that they have 4G service?

Re:4G in non-4G areas (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36765616)

99.99%

they will all think they have 4G service, however they will also almost all complain about slow service to people that know something about 4G and brag to people that don't about how much faster their service is then theirs.

except that 1 dude that knew what he bought.

Re:4G in non-4G areas (1)

ekgringo (693136) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765748)

I wonder what percentage of 4G phone owners living in area WITH "4G" coverage think they have 4G service?

it doesn't!??? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36765572)

it doesn't!??? geez, well at least I can take comfort in the fact that java 6 is the 6th major version of that language

Blame Mark^h^h^h^ducation (1)

That Guy From Mrktng (2274712) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765580)

Not because Marketing bots around the world are conspiring to vanish the last traces of common sense and simple reasoning from the population but because we cling on the work of politicians, media and lawmakers that try the best to accomplish that unworthy feat. Is not like anyone is forcing the people to get stupid. Path of least resistance, I know enough to know I'm stupid, etc. YMMV.

Does it matter? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36765604)

If they don't know better, what negative effect does it have on their lives?

Does it even matter? (1)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765606)

With the ridiculously low data caps on today's mobile plans "4G" is basically just a convenient way to drain your battery and blow through your data plan faster than ever before...

Actually (1)

lostmagik (776421) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765632)

Would it be too hard to think that this was done on purpose? I like to think that companies as such are as sneaky as to lure consumers with misplaced 'technicalities'. A marketer's delight if you ask me.

In other news, 58% of Apple users are that asshole (-1, Flamebait)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765646)

In related news, 58% of Apple users are that guy in the corner of the coffee shop--the one with the Birkenstocks on, who just cannot be bothered with your bourgeoisie shit, man. You know, that guy who calls himself an "artist of the mind" and tells you over and over that he doesn't even *OWN* a TV. There he is right now. See him over there reading Noam Chomsky as if he's the first college student to ever do that? Yeah, the guy who's telling the bored barista that she just doesn't understand the truly creative mind. That's him.

66% clueful (1)

Lehk228 (705449) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765702)

In other words apple's customer base is 66% clueful, about double the average. I don't like apple or their walled garden bullshit but that is quite impressive.

The cheek of it! (1)

Andy Smith (55346) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765714)

I hope you're not suggesting that Apple had any intention of misleading people? That would be outrageous. I mean, they put out the iPhone for 2G networks, then the iPhone 3 for 3G networks, then just as people were starting to want a 4G handset they put out the iPhone 4. And you dare to suggest that it even _occurred_ to Apple that the numbering might confuse people!!!??? Go to your room and don't come out til supper time! Cheeky young scamp.

Re:The cheek of it! (1)

Dynedain (141758) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765986)

You're intentionally muddling the argument. There was no "iPhone 3". Apple put out:

  • iPhone
  • iPhone 3G for 3G networks
  • iPhone 3Gs for faster speeds on 3G networks (notice this is the 3rd iPhone release)
  • iPhone 4

Likely, if their next phone supports 4G, they'll call it the iPhone 4G to distinguish from the iPhone 4. And if it doesn't, then it will be the iPhone 5.

How Stupid can you be. (1)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765724)

To expect anything common across version numbers.
iPhone to iPhone 3g to iPhone 4 (Where was the iPhone two)
Windows 3.1, Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows ME, Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7
Solaris 2.5, Solaris 2.6, Solaris 7, Solaris 8, Solaris 9
8088, 8086, 286, 386, 486, Pentium, Pentium II, Pentium III, Pentium IV, Pentium V (I have gotten lost after that, where it went insane)
Don't get me started about the mess of Google and Mozilla started.

Lets be nice to consumers...
Major.Minor.Patch
Major = A major upgrade New features comparability with previous Major number will have a fair to a lot amount of issues, or at least a lot of new features that makes the product distinctive.
Minor = A small number of new features usually low hanging fruit type of development, Fixing of serious reaching security issues, or bug fixes.
Patches = A small bug fix or security fix.

Most people can learn, even if they are not overly concerned about computers. But by constantly messing with the version number schemes it messes up people especially if they haven't been following your product.

Why was the iPhone 3g called 3g because it had 3g support. The iPhone 4 is really the iPhone 3g 2. However it is easy for people to make the confustion of the iPhone 4 with 4g. First because of the last version name and the same time adds are coming out for a 4g network.

Re:How Stupid can you be. (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765828)

Pentium, Pentium II, Pentium III, Pentium IV, Pentium V (I have gotten lost after that, where it went insane)

After Pentium 4 was the Core series (Core Solo, Core 2, Core i).

Re:How Stupid can you be. (1)

Dynedain (141758) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765940)

The iPhone 3G was the iPhone 2.

Missing in your release list was the iPhone 3Gs which was the 3rd iPhone.

Same kind of numbering as Windows 7
Win 3 ran on top of DOS.
NT4 = Win4
2K = Win5
XP = Win5.1
Vista = Win6
Win7

Re:How Stupid can you be. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36766012)

You're not the only one, but just to put the record straight, the iPhone 4 is called the iPhone 4 'cause, you guessed it, it is the fourth iPhone.

iPhone (2G Networks)
iPhone 3G (3G Network support)
iPhone 3GS (Faster processor, more memory, Nike+, video recording, compass, etc.)
iPhone 4 (Faster processor; more memory; retina display; fantastic, wonderful, magical, better structural antenna; etc.)

Duh! (1, Informative)

Brewmeister_Z (1246424) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765736)

For most, purchase of an iPhone is mostly hype and a failure to understand the BS the contracts and service quality issues either Verizon or AT&T will offer. They are the only 2 carriers in our service area. I like to call our choices "dumb and dumber" with the option of dumber being dependent on your coverage in a particular location and what POS phone you have.

An often ignored fact (or barely mentioned by sellers) is that choosing the iPhone over the other replacement options AT&T gave to Alltel customers is that a new contract would be signed and unlimited data would go away. I have an HTC Aria since I wanted to try Android and it was a free and clear phone with no contract issues. I have had issues with internal memory limitations and the HTC Mail program leaking memory and not cleaning up very well after itself but otherwise happy with the phone. Seems like every device is gonna have some quirk or limitation either by design or after losing favor to the next shiny thing they are marketing.

Don't Generalize (0)

aherstein (2372794) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765750)

I have a MacBook and an iPhone and -- gasp! -- I have a degree in CS. I also use Linux and develop Java apps for a living. Not all iPhone users are idiots. Who is to say that some Android or BlackBerry users don't think the same thing?

Re:Don't Generalize (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36765906)

> I have a MacBook and an iPhone and -- gasp! -- I have a degree in CS. I also use Linux and develop Java apps for a living.

Was your senior thesis titled "Creating Monetizable Synergies By Leveraging Open Source Technologies"?

Re:Don't Generalize (1)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 2 years ago | (#36766096)

Who is to say that some Android or BlackBerry users don't think the same thing?

You're not really making a case that iPhone users aren't idiots by posting saying that you don't know information that is present in both TFA and a slashdot post earlier than yours.

Forget that.... (2)

freeze128 (544774) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765752)

Ask them what the "i" stands for....

Re:Forget that.... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36765810)

Isn't it "Team"?

Re:Forget that.... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36766066)

iDIOT.

Re:Forget that.... (1)

Anubis IV (1279820) | more than 2 years ago | (#36766070)

It used to stand for "Internet" back when the iMac first rolled out. Now, it stands for a brand. Nothing too complicated about that.

The carriers are confused too! (2)

DdJ (10790) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765770)

No shock there -- the carriers are confused as well. They've been referring to stuff that's unambiguously not 4G in marketing materials as if it were 4G. They're using 4G to mean "better than what you probably think of when you hear 3G". It got so bad that 4G had to be formally redefined.

I don't know what the right answer is, except perhaps to discard the short labels and talk about the details. Don't sell me on "4G speeds", sell me on specific speeds (and/or features). For example.

Myself, I'm constantly tempted to disable 3G on my phone so my battery lasts longer. I do not need the higher speeds. If I could drop back to 2G without giving up any features, I would.

(Explanation: on AT&Ts network, apparently some towers do not permit simultaneous voice and data if you connect via 2G. Simultaneous voice and data always work if you connect via 3G. That's the only reason I leave 3G turned on today.)

Context? (1)

farnsworth (558449) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765772)

I wonder what the context of the question was. I find it surprising that 34% is an accurate number. After all, the word "3G" is on the screen pretty much 100% of the time. More likely, people who don't have a 4G phone aren't sure what "4G" means, and the previous question biased the response to this question.

Q: Do you know what "4G" means?
A: Yes, it is technology that certain phones use for wireless communication.
Q: Do you plan on getting a 4G phone?
A: I already have an iPhone 4.

vs:

Q: Have you ever had a 3G phone?
A: Yes, I had the iPhone 3G.
Q: Do you plan on getting a 4G phone?
A: I already have an iPhone 4.

RTFA: not limited to iPhone, Android almost as bad (1, Informative)

devleopard (317515) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765928)

29% of Android owners do too - some may be legit 4G phones, but those phones sure as hell don't make up 29% of the market.

24% of Blackberry too - even though they don't offer a 4G model.

You are expecting sophistication from iPhone users (-1, Troll)

NitroWolf (72977) | more than 2 years ago | (#36765950)

iPhone users have never been the sharpest tools in the shed to begin with...

I mean, they think a Fisher-Price interface model is the best thing since sliced bread. Do you really think they are sophisticated enough to understand something as complex as 4G (when compared to their Fisher Price toys?)

What they don't know... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36766044)

...won't hurt them. These same people would likely not know the difference between 3g and 4g unless you had the same models doing the same tasks side by side.

34% of all users or iPhone users (1)

weo (7251) | more than 2 years ago | (#36766080)

Like farnsworth I think the reporting of this is kind of sensational. Is it a coincidence that if you add up the 3 groups % you get ~100%?

This looks like a headline grab playing games with %.

And how many people "actually" have 4G? (1)

hellfire (86129) | more than 2 years ago | (#36766138)

Each of the major US carriers has their own 4G standard. 3G/4G was a specific idea created by some engineers that was entirely coopted by marketing departments and was then corrupted. No one actually knows what the definition of 4G is except for some engineers, and the marketers and CEOs keep saying "well it's close enough to 4G if we just do this".

It's simply about speed. The bare minimum information you need to know is what the Mbps are on any single network and what's the fastest Mbps the phone can take. That's too much information for the average consumer to ask for.

And even then, it's not entirely about speed. Latency is important, especially for games. And then there are people who don't need the fastest phone, but want a good experience, reliable hardware, or good sound quality.

Maybe the lesson here is that user's aren't all that concerned about 4G because they aren't asking to be sure. Maybe consumers aren't that stupid because even though we call them stupid for not knowing, we would turn around and call them stupid for caring all that much at the same time.

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