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Where China's Weibo Beats Facebook and Twitter

timothy posted more than 3 years ago | from the not-complete-till-it-includes-censorship-engine dept.

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HansonMB writes with this excerpt: "Launched in 2009, the micro-blogging service is owned by Chinese interweb behemoth Sina Corp, which happens to be the same company that partnered with Google before their deals famously floundered (cf those anxieties) and Google hightailed out of China (before coming back of course). Weibo is often described as a Facebook-Twitter hybrid, but anyone who takes a closer look can easily see that it's a different beast entirely. Actually, I would argue Weibo is better than both. Here's a breakdown of its standout features—some of which Google Plus has already included, and others that I'd love to see incorporated soon."

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My favorite feature (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36767566)

It tells what I think and writes messages for me! Praise our glorious leader.

Re:My favorite feature (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36767986)

Does it immediately replace my posts, and notify the guys with the black van and the ice chests for organ "donation" if I decide to actually say something bad about the country?

Rats. Facebook should be coming out with that pretty soon. I can't wait.

Re:My favorite feature (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36769652)

It tells what I think and writes messages for me! Praise our glorious leader.

That's North Korea - and you are a racist if you think they are anything like each other.

Re:My favorite feature (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36770334)

So, people that live on one side of a line in North Korea, and people that live on the other side of the line in China are not anything like each other? What next, are the people in Canada and the United States not anything like each other, either?

Better than USA (2)

z-j-y (1056250) | more than 3 years ago | (#36770092)

Nobody in china praises the dear leaders. Even state media has toned it to almost nonexistence.

Compare that to USA, where Obama worshiping is at an embarrassing and disgusting level.

At least no Chinese said the leader makes his legs tingling.

Re:My favorite feature (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36770158)

Now we need an obligatory falon gong post ... they are shooting us and selling our organs for transplants and persecuting us because we give all our money to falon gong and the rest we spend driving all over the country to protest. Last week they took my left nut and sold it to an african dictator because he wanted kids who could read more than ak-47 manuals, and he thinks if he eats it he can achieve sperm with the IQ of a chinese forced labor iPad assembler. And they are doing it all from this web site.

Unconvincing To Say the Least (5, Insightful)

eldavojohn (898314) | more than 3 years ago | (#36767568)

Alright, normally I give stuff the benefit of the doubt but this is just a slashvertisement of a Chinese site trying to penetrate the American market.

Actually, I would argue Weibo is better than both.

Well, if you want to do that effectively, might I suggest actually drawing the comparisons?

Instead of having to post shortened links that direct traffic to an external site, multimedia content is integrated directly into the website’s interface, so that no one ever has to leave the Weibo ecosystem.

Facebook has done this forever with thumbnails and it even loads in a flash player if I link to something on Bandcamp (not sure about other sites). If Wiebo doesn't redirect you an external site, how does it deal with copyright issues? Twitter will soon support images on tweets [twitter.com] if it doesn't already for you.

One of those Loyalty / Rewards Systems

Not for me, thanks.

Think of it as social networking plus Pokemon. Sounds awesome to me.

Well, enjoy it man. I am part of a large section of the population of the United States of America that does not find Pokemon cute or entertaining. Sounds like hell to me.

Logging into Weibo takes users to "Weibo Square," a portal filled with endless possible detours, including the hot topics of the day, most popular tweets, and highlighted celebrity users.

Yeah, MySpace had this. It still does now that it's been sold to a marketing firm. And that's where it belongs. Social Networking is about the users. You should spend time at someone's page and trends should be a sidebar. When I see this all I can think of is Supermarket tabloid. Again, not for me.

Okay, this section should technically be labeled “e-commerce,” but I got too excited over the prospect of being able to order food online through a social networking site.

So one of your selling points is that on a massive social network, companies market and sell shit to you. No thanks man. I don't think you understand what "social networking" means to me. Users are the center of attention, not food or ecommerce. If you want to add those Apps and APIs and they start to get intrusive to the core experience, you're going to lose users. You can keep Weibo.

If you call that a conclusive "better than Facebook and Twitter" discussion, you need to work on your sales pitch, shill.

I cannot recommend linux (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36767908)

Speaking as a world-reknown IT expert, I never recommend to organizations that they use Linux. Linux is 90% of the way there, but getting the final 10% of the way requires a level of money, effort and fascism that doesn't exist in the Linux community. I recommend Microsoft Windows only for stability, scalability, and vertical integration in the organization.

Thank you for reading.

One stop for online needs and monitoring (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36767930)

Seems like a great one-site-fits-all-needs service. So convenient for the user and those monitoring/policing the user's behaviors, interests and opinions; and for discovering individuals who may be like minded.

Re:Unconvincing To Say the Least (3, Funny)

jojoba_oil (1071932) | more than 3 years ago | (#36767932)

Think of it as social networking plus Pokemon. Sounds awesome to me.

Well, enjoy it man. I am part of a large section of the population of the United States of America that does not find Pokemon cute or entertaining. Sounds like hell to me.

Sounds like hell to you. Sounds like Gaia Online to me... which happens to be a special kind of hell that is filled with emo and scene kids who think MMORPG means "a web forum where people role-play that they're cool".

Re:Unconvincing To Say the Least (1)

lennier (44736) | more than 3 years ago | (#36769050)

a special kind of hell that is filled with emo and scene kids who think MMORPG means "a web forum where people role-play that they're cool".

The really scary thing is that already sounds 15000% more interesting than World of Warcraft level grinding.

Re:Unconvincing To Say the Least (1)

tycoex (1832784) | more than 3 years ago | (#36770720)

ZING!

China is still Circa 2004-2005 (1)

Kamiza Ikioi (893310) | more than 3 years ago | (#36768076)

Mod up parent, couldn't have said it better. Then again, this is China where having a smart phone means you're rich. They haven't gone through their MySpace phase. It's like when I went to Japan over a decade and a half ago and saw Doragon Bru (had to look that up to remember). All I could think was, oh for crying out loud, we're still stuck on freaking Power Rangers. I told a friend there that we'll enjoy it in America too years after I'd returned. That's where China is, round about 2004-2005.

Re:China is still Circa 2004-2005 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36769394)

From the media and cultural standpoint I'd say it's closer to the 90s.

Politically they're in the late 70s early 80s.

Re:Unconvincing To Say the Least (4, Insightful)

Dahamma (304068) | more than 3 years ago | (#36768106)

Way too harsh to the author... as the saying goes, "never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

It was a rather poorly written article, but come on, motherboard.tv isn't a "Chinese shill site", just a techie pop culture web site. And IMO writing a profile of a Chinese social media app that may soon have more users than Facebook in China alone is a reasonable topic for their site - unfortunately just poor execution. But try rereading it from the understanding that the author is a mid-20's Asian female blogger of questionable writing ability, and then maybe you can take the article at face value. I agree with your criticisms of the inaccuracy and bias to personal preferences in the article, but definitely not in motivation...

Re:Unconvincing To Say the Least (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36769508)

never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity ... But try rereading it from the understanding that the author is a mid-20's Asian female

This is Slashdot, where an ageist racist sexist comment is insightful!

Because she's a young Asian female, we're supposed to assume she's too stupid to be a shill. Got it.

Re:Unconvincing To Say the Least (1)

Dahamma (304068) | more than 3 years ago | (#36769992)

Give me a break. The obvious point was that, surprise, the author (since the OP says "guy", "man", etc several times) and many readers of the article are NOT all professional male tech geeks like majority of the /. audience, so there is nothing wrong inherently wrong or "shill" about Pokemon or MySpace *if* that's what the user it interested in; implying there is would make the same mistake as the author does in her comparisons.

There is absolutely nothing insulting with being described as a mid-20's Asian (Asian-American, from what I can tell, so OP comment implying the author was not from the "United States of America" like him isn't fair, either) female. You're the only one who decided to link any criticism of the author's writing with age, gender, or race. Just because you are an asshole, doesn't mean I would automatically consider the same of anyone else of your phenotype.

Re:Unconvincing To Say the Least (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36770186)

so OP comment implying the author was not from the "United States of America" like him isn't fair, either

Lol what?

You're the only one who decided to link any criticism of the author's writing with age, gender, or race.

You're the only one that brought age, gender or race into it. On the internet, none of that exists.

Re:Unconvincing To Say the Least (1)

Nuklearwanze (693728) | more than 3 years ago | (#36772158)

as her name is Michelle Ong (credited in the end of the article) the assumption that she is female and asian seems valid.

Re:Unconvincing To Say the Least (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36775278)

There was no intent to even correlate the fact of her being stupid with the fact of her being young Asian female, much less imply a causative relationship. Both facts, however, are abundantly evident in the content and quality of her writing.

There was, however, a correlation which was obviously supposed to be understood as the following common theme:

that which is adequately explained by stupidity. [...] It was a rather poorly written article [...] the author is [...] of questionable writing ability

Re:Unconvincing To Say the Least (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36771512)

It's surprising how the supposed technorati can be so close-minded. Please don't fall prey to your government's propaganda and judge for yourself AFTER you've given the service a try. This attitude is exactly how many Westerners will lose lose their competitive edge - by underestimating others and refusing to learn.

Same goes for other commenters here.

Foundered, not floundered (3, Informative)

WebManWalking (1225366) | more than 3 years ago | (#36767606)

When a ship sinks, it founders. Please.

Re:Foundered, not floundered (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36768250)

After the ship sinks, it rests with the flounders.

it was an accident (1)

decora (1710862) | more than 3 years ago | (#36768746)

he didnt type it on porpoise

Re:it was an accident (2)

theshowmecanuck (703852) | more than 3 years ago | (#36770054)

Deserves a +1, "fucking horrible pun." ;)

dr demento (1)

decora (1710862) | more than 3 years ago | (#36772018)

and kip adotta made me do it

Re:Foundered, not floundered (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36768732)

...but what if the fishing vessel broke its quota?

Re:Foundered, not floundered (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36768734)

When a ship sinks, it does indeed founder. But that has no bearing on the definition of "flounder" which can indeed mean "to experience difficulty and be likely to fail" http://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/american/flounder#flounder_8

Re:Foundered, not floundered (1)

WebManWalking (1225366) | more than 3 years ago | (#36771782)

Yes, if enough people say something wrong often enough, it starts to become accepted as correct. But it's not yet a lost cause, like Frankenstein's Monster or pronouncing kudos "coo-doss" when used as the Greek word for praise. There's still time to rescue founder. Please don't say flounder.

P.S.: I also sent Macmillan an e-mail pleading with them not list "ax" as an alternate spelling for "ask".

Re:Foundered, not floundered (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36774072)

Well, if that's true, then I'll grant Macmillan isn't the most reliable dictionary in the world. (I cannot find "ax" as an alternate spelling for "ask" in their dictionary, so I will give you the benefit of the doubt that they listened to you.)

Using a more reputable dictionary then: (Merriam-Webster)

Definition of FLOUNDER
intransitive verb
1
: to struggle to move or obtain footing : thrash about wildly
2
: to proceed or act clumsily or ineffectually

Then the question really is the state of the deals in question - because it looks quite possible for something to flounder before it founders, especially if one anthropomorphized the deal (which people tend to do). If the deal is indeed dead in the water, yes "foundered" it is. I read it as "struggling in China" (due to the use of "flounders"). If it was meant to be read as "failed in China" (which "hightailed it out" would imply, and a better knowledge of the deal in question would probably confirm) then indeed, they picked the wrong one.

Re:Foundered, not floundered (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36769072)

When a ship sinks, it founders. Please.

When a ship founders, it may eventually sink. FTFY, matey.

Why You Might Join China's Largest Social Network (3, Informative)

the_humeister (922869) | more than 3 years ago | (#36767614)

And that's about where I stopped reading. I have automatic distrust of any social media company and the Chinese government, so why would I join one from China?

Re:Why You Might Join China's Largest Social Netwo (2)

steelfood (895457) | more than 3 years ago | (#36769696)

trust(china + social networking site) = floor(trust(china),trust(social networking site))

Re:Why You Might Join China's Largest Social Netwo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36771086)

Is there even an Engrish (sorry, had to do it) version? I couldn't find any link, not that I'm about to join it.

Trust a Chinese web site with my personal data? (4, Funny)

saihung (19097) | more than 3 years ago | (#36767628)

Yeah, that's something I'm super-eager to do. I think I'll follow it up by emailing my social security number and credit card data to random .ru domains immediately after.

Re:Trust a Chinese web site with my personal data? (2)

getNewNickName (980625) | more than 3 years ago | (#36767976)

What's to say that your current favorite site will not be sold to a foreign company in the future along with all your personal data? The only way to ensure your privacy is to never put the information on the internet.

Re:Trust a Chinese web site with my personal data? (1)

DigiShaman (671371) | more than 3 years ago | (#36768014)

For that matter, why would anyone trust a social website with their personal data. When people vomit their personal lives online for everyone to see, how will this not haunt them later in life? I understand we all have skeletons in the closet in some form or fashion, but I'm seeing vast cemeteries online with no place to hide the bodies.

I'm waiting for the fallout from all this if and when these people run for public office . The mud slinging and political public exposure will be delicious. Suckers!!!

Re:Trust a Chinese web site with my personal data? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36768400)

>I'm waiting for the fallout from all this if and when these people run for public office

We've crossed that line already, Congressman Weiner on Twitter.

Don't forget to download and run PLA video games (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36768062)

Yeah, that's something I'm super-eager to do. I think I'll follow it up by emailing my social security number and credit card data to random .ru domains immediately after.

Don't forget to download and run video games written by the PLA (People's Liberation Army), the folks who seem to be pulling the strings behind the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) leadership.

Re:Trust a Chinese web site with my personal data? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36768442)

No please do not again send already we have.

It can identify political dissidents 5x faster (2)

SomewhatRandom (1299167) | more than 3 years ago | (#36767712)

It can identify political dissidents 5x faster

well (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36767736)

It wouldn't be hard to be better a service than facebook.
The trouble is just getting people to join in.

Does anyone else... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36767786)

...read "weeaboo" when they see that name?

Re:Does anyone else... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36768012)

Did someone say weeaboo? Cause I think I just heard someone say weeaboo.

Re:Does anyone else... (1)

Hsien-Ko (1090623) | more than 3 years ago | (#36768626)

It would make more sense if it were a Japan social network site filled with western-based basement dwellers obsessing with their everbuilding animelists and DCCs of unfaithful unauthorized fansubs... oh what the hell i'll give in

WEEABOO! WEEABOO! WEEABOO!

Where China's Weibo Beats Facebook and Twitter (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36767878)

Where does China's Weibo Beats Facebook and Twitter?

I'm guessing... China?

It reminds me of the now defunct Internet portals (1)

Lord Juan (1280214) | more than 3 years ago | (#36767950)

Honestly, it looks awful, it doesn't look like a social networking website, it looks more as a commercial Internet portal, the kind that were around over 10 years ago. I already have a lot of troubles trusting some of my personal information to US based Internet services, I can't see why in the world I would trust it to a Chinese based one. Is there really nothing better to post in Slashdot today?, Lately all news appear to be about social networks, the cloud, or bitcoin, and not just in Slashdot.

Re:It reminds me of the now defunct Internet porta (1)

Lord Juan (1280214) | more than 3 years ago | (#36768024)

Ok (yeah, a reply to myself), it was an exaggeration to claim that all news are about this, and this doesn't have an undo button. But I stand behind my assertion that this was not Slashdot material and that the site looks awful.

Google returned to china? (1)

molo (94384) | more than 3 years ago | (#36767954)

Was I offline that week? When did this happen?

-molo

Re:Google returned to china? (1)

Goaway (82658) | more than 3 years ago | (#36768590)

It didn't.

Wow... (1)

Lunix Nutcase (1092239) | more than 3 years ago | (#36767980)

Does anyone else think this article reads like it was written by an idiotic teenage girl?

Re:Wow... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36768238)

Does anyone else think this article reads like it was written by an idiotic teenage girl?

Yes, truly naive and trusting, surely someone to be seen on MTV's next 15-and-knocked-up series.

Not a chance (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36768006)

state-controlled, single source social network + shopping mall, anyone?

oh - I forgot, its not your choice

Awful site (1)

jgotts (2785) | more than 3 years ago | (#36768224)

It's like Facebook, except with more intrusive advertising and several of the annoyances that killed Myspace. Most importantly, though, the site is run by the freedom-destroying Chinese government. Why in the hell would you want to share anything at all with China, unless forced to by the barrel of a gun?

Re:Awful site (1)

Lunix Nutcase (1092239) | more than 3 years ago | (#36768240)

Because some brain dead idiot says it's ultra cool and like pokemon?

Re:Awful site (1)

cyfer2000 (548592) | more than 3 years ago | (#36768476)

Last time I check, sina.com was private company and was listed on NASDAQ.

Private v. "Private" (1)

cmholm (69081) | more than 3 years ago | (#36770068)

The PRC is not quite to the stage where the concept 'rule of law' has supplanted 'rule of men', and PATRIOT Act-related BS that the likes of AT&T get into in the US is par for the course. Sina is listed on NASDAQ, but home plate and most of their action is back in Shanghai, as are the major shareholders. http://finapps.forbes.com/finapps/jsp/finance/compinfo/insider/InsiderRoster.jsp?tkr=SINA [forbes.com]

Re:Awful site (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36768794)

Please tell me the difference from the US of America?

Ugly UI (1)

DoomHamster (1918204) | more than 3 years ago | (#36768280)

Ugh. That UI is ghastly! I didn't think anything could be uglier and more cluttered than MySpace. I was wrong.

SUMMARY of the wisdom here (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36768508)

only facebook is allowed to put it's huge penis in my privacy loving cornhole

chinese penisses are too small

Can we go a single day... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36768686)

without a Slashdot article about how everything is better in China? Why can't the people who insist on submitting these stories over and over just take a mandarin course, move to China, and stay behind the great firewall to give the rest of us some peace?

Re:Can we go a single day... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36768782)

At least it is a change from a Bitcoin article by one of the early adopters just hoping more people hop on the system so he or she can cash out. Or a change from yet another Apple product love-fest.

Re:Can we go a single day... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36771550)

But imagine Bitcoin.. in China?! WOW!

Weibo = microblogging (1)

mathfeel (937008) | more than 3 years ago | (#36769762)

For non-Chinese speaker: Wei = Micro, Bo = Blogging. Just sayin'.

Weibo = 140 chars (1)

Psx29 (538840) | more than 3 years ago | (#36769800)

There are several services that have this limit that is a holdover from the days of when most people had dumb phones. Twitter has this, plurk also has this, as does weibo. In Chinese it turns out you can say A LOT in 140 chars so this limit isn't as big a deal I guess, plurk is popular in Taiwan and is really similar. I mostly just peruse social networks and rarely post things myself.

Weibo lacks security (2)

Rincewind42 (973462) | more than 3 years ago | (#36771174)

I signed up for Weibo last week, having lived in China for 6 years. After the signup process I decided never to use it as it was obviously insecure. During the signup/login you are asked, as usual, to create a username and password. I usually use some nice secure passwords, ten or more letters with caps, numbers and punctuation. However, Weibo popped up a error message saying that I must only use lower-case letters a-z. This massively reduces the number of password combinations.

Horde to the Wailoh (1)

Mana Mana (16072) | more than 3 years ago | (#36773978)

The summary feels like an indigenous to Sina shill, bashing Google in the process. Hightailed? Ran came back? Left the PRC went to HK's Two System's One Nation: anyone, anyone? "Those dumb Americans wont know that, dew neh!" Indeed.

The number one reason it beats facebook & twit (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36775760)

It's neither facebook nor twitter.

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