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Man Builds Turbine Powered Batmobile

samzenpus posted more than 2 years ago | from the building-a-better-bat dept.

Transportation 77

hasanabbas1987 writes "Casey Putsch, the famous car restorer, puts a new meaning to the word 'Fanboy' as he builds a Batmobile and powers it with a Boeing turboshaft engine taken from a drone helicopter. According to Casey this is the only one of its kind and even Bruce Wayne would've been proud of his work. Internal mods include an iPad in the dashboard which serves as an avionics system and GPS coordinates."

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Nice (-1, Offtopic)

spacenut5 (2375806) | more than 2 years ago | (#36779806)

But Its not street legal [thoughts.com]:-(

Re:Nice (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36779822)

When did you people stop being content with a simple rickroll? This is why Slashdot needs a "delete for spam" option.

Re:Nice (1)

maxwell demon (590494) | more than 2 years ago | (#36779918)

When did you people stop being content with a simple rickroll? This is why Slashdot needs a "delete for spam" option.

Well, a "disable links" option would be sufficient, and less easily abused.

Re:Nice (1)

geekprime (969454) | more than 2 years ago | (#36780790)

How about a don't show me posts from this IP address option? Don't tell me what it is, just don't show me its posts.

Re:Nice (1)

maxwell demon (590494) | more than 2 years ago | (#36780956)

In the given case, the post came from a logged-in user. Therefore your foe list should be sufficient for that.
Also, blocking a certain IP wouldn't do much good for dynamic IPs.

Is street-legal: All Roads are Open. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36780040)

Google your Statutory Law and you will discover that all "Roads are Open as a Matter of Right to Public Vehicular Travel."

Licenses are privilege to use a private road, and the legislature of every country so-far has only posted such regulations in terms of regulating COMMERCIAL USES of the roads. Do you know the difference between Regulation and Law? For Regulations you attend Municipal Court, meanwhile for Law you go back to the Country to attend County Court.

Learn2History.

Re:Is street-legal: All Roads are Open. (0)

spacenut7 (2375830) | more than 2 years ago | (#36780264)

Even though the only goal of my post was to trick you visiting NSFW link, and indeed he appears to drive on streets, I don't agree with you.
Not every car can be legally driven on streets due to risks to others involved.
For example http://http//www.terrafugia.com/ [http] AKA the real flying car has been struggled to meet both car and airplane regulations.

Corpus Delecti. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36783462)

When in your unlimited liability, you can only be held accoutable to your actions when it effects others. Everything else you say about some thing as having "risks" to others is only your debate of future interests and something that hasn't happened yet outside of law.

Learn2Liberty: Learn2Freedom.

Re:Is street-legal: All Roads are Open. (1)

wjsteele (255130) | more than 2 years ago | (#36784564)

That's not a good example, as the Terrafugia is allowed to be driven on the road according to NHTSA. It has now been cleared for air and road use due to certain exemptions it has received specifically due to those challenges of making a dual use vehicle.

Here is the news release on it: http://www.terrafugia.com/news_media.html [terrafugia.com]

Bill

Re:Is street-legal: All Roads are Open. (4, Informative)

ElectricTurtle (1171201) | more than 2 years ago | (#36780366)

Too bad everything is basically the opposite of what you say. You do not (necessarily) need licenses for private roads, especially not from the government. If there were restrictions on a private road they would necessarily be *private* and you'd need whatever authorization the road's owner required. Licenses are a requirement to operate a vehicle on public roads in the US at a state level, and they are also only half of the picture. "Street legal" refers not to licenses at all but to vehicle registration. Vehicles must meet safety, emissions, and other standards determined by each state before they can be registered. While some vehicles are exempt from these standards it is usually because they have been grandfathered in from earlier periods of vehicle manufacture before given standards were implemented.

The doctrine of open roads is not that anybody can drive anything, but rather that other persons/agencies cannot impede others on public roads for reasons in excess of legal frameworks such as licensing, registration, and traffic laws. It's meant to prevent discrimination or attempts at passive harassment such as trying to block roads or certain persons or classes of persons. Your legal interpretation is not borne out in any case law I assure you.

I am not a lawyer and the above should not be construed as legal advice.

You are side-stepping the issue. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36783576)

And you don't know what you are talking about, because all you say is doctrine of which is typical of your schooling.

Let me backpedal for you. The nature of licentiousness is that you have a disability in your character that prevents you from asserting any rights on a given matter, while a license in law is simply just that but in a perview of commerce then that characterizes that a Driver License to be the terms of regulation from the legislature that you are to be regulated for commerce on the public roads. A driver License by nature is you ask permition from another privateer that doesn't own the public roads, that privateer is to regulate your commerce upon those public roads not owned by them. I am quoting from my side of the venue, the 46th Legislature of 1925 for the State of California. Do you not know that the State of New York was the first to legislate a Driver Licensing registry in all of America and the State of California was second to that perspiration? I know what I'm talking about.

The perview of the State legislature was to "provide a licensing fee for the transportation of cargo and passengers for hire, compensation, or profit." There you have it, do you have anything contrary to that? Reading the General Provisions of the 1st title for the federal corporation DEPARTMENT OF MOTOR VEHICLES to assume that position of trust, and quoting their Motor Vehicle Code from memmory is "Insofar this title is consistent with the original enactment, it is a continuation or reenstatement of prior..."
There are two sides to the matter of a driver License, because there is the purpose for that License that is being ignored, as we don't just presume that EVERYONE is required to obtain such licensing because of the hype of it: first is the Jurisdiction of a overseeing that qualified person to direct that property, and second is the Regulation over that property which establishes a metric for it's character as carried by that vessel regulated under the guise of Motor Vehicle.

I'm not making this up. In terms of public law, the people own as much of the road individually as is the dimensions of their automobile: treat the road as a FIFO buffer and you own it for what you displace others from holding. DMV is looking at the matter in terms of the private improvements ontop of the public road, those federal improvements are the asphault which as you may figure is the foreign regulation that has displaced your liberty and freedom.

Consider the fact that The United States only exists in the District of Columbia, not to be confused with the Several States west of the Mississippi River and the 13 States of America east of the Mississippi River. If you are required to have a License to use roads, then you are a 2nd-class citizen -- or at-least you've been deprived of your good and lawful character because you assent to the doctrine that it is convenient for a 3rd-party to regulate what they are ill-qualified to do because a farmer cleared the Roads first and the Federal government intentionally paved the public roads to default the locals on unpayed service to which you are now expected to tithe forever just because your doctrine is conventient. If this is the case, then I welcome the flying machines, but someone timid as yourself will probably be the Judas goat that convinces everyone to pay a air-quality tax. In these regards, if your machine causes harm to others around you then a common man is addressed in county court in full unlimited liability. Otherwise he is regulated, and so enjoy those penalties and imprisonment threats from Municipal Court for breach of contract.

Re:You are side-stepping the issue. (1)

ElectricTurtle (1171201) | more than 2 years ago | (#36793108)

You're basically trying to justify the continuance of behavior that was acceptable before laws changed because there weren't laws before there were laws. It's a ridiculous sort of argument that doesn't work in any Western civil society. There was a time when you didn't need pilot licenses to fly or ships' masters licenses to operate heavy commercial vessels, that doesn't mean the same holds true forever. You do either one now and you'll end up on the losing side of a court battle and fast. The same is true of drivers licenses, vehicle registration, etc. You want to fight those battles based on some anachronism, you're welcome to do it.

You also seem very confused as to the division between the federal government and the states. The federal government primarily funds only interstate highways. Almost all regulation of roads falls on the states, as does licensing itself, which is only interstate by way of the 'full faith and credit' clause (which should really apply to licenses to carry concealed weapons, but national reciprocity keeps getting shut down in both congress and courts).

Re:You are side-stepping the issue. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36804402)

Nothing changed, and if it did then there would be a vote about it, yet the context of the law is consistent with commercial regulations because logic is too difficult for an alter-ego known as The State to grasp without religious doctrine. Also of note, you haven't distinguished what a fedreal government is as opposed to a state (logical unit of society, a body-politic, such as a corporate sole of an incorporated personage). Federal is a feudal organization, yet that Federal government over the United States has no domestic presence in the States other than to rent property and docks and enclaves, because it exists in another country known as District of Columbia outside/independent/non-party to the Union between the Several States and the States of America. My best reference to you is Clearfield Doctrine, where it was given back in the 1960's or 1970's that wherever the Government comes into competition with a privateer then it's sovereignty is no longer recognized and it's character becomes the same as a non-registered private corporation: that alone should give you a hint why there is a President of the United States and there are Presidents to Corporations: because the government is nothing more than a corporation given the initial monopoly over an esteemed title among the hosting people to issue remedy from it's storage locker before anyone considers buying remedy directly from Walmart & Home Depot & McDonalds & Kaiser Permanente (ie: damaged property or injuries get bought or sold to a skilled person in the market).

You're basically trying to justify the continuance of behavior that was acceptable before laws changed...

There are states created by the federal government that are in direct competition with non-federal independent states. Notice the difference between an organic man in "state" as opposed to a title of nobility (The State) from a body-politic. Also, I am aware that there is no LICENTURE for federal statesmen and federal persons to obtain such license to use their own roads, but I do know that a non-federal can obrain an exemption from a Federal state through their Department of Transportation and their BATFE. It's a country within a country: the people are being divided between heirs/inheritors of their property or reduced to privileged chattels that may only use another's property under restriction mediated through municipal courts. The answer is a Breach of public trust through County Court. Wish I could help you, but you sound like an immigrant that is still continuing their slave mentality from a foreign country that dominated you and your only exist with through citizenship to the United States. My lineage goes back to the foundation, so good-luck to you.

You also seem very confused as to the division between the federal government and the states. The federal government primarily funds only interstate highways. Almost all regulation of roads falls on the states, as does licensing itself...

nice garage (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36779810)

I'm glad to see that he also has a Viper.

Wayne Huh? (1)

nharmon (97591) | more than 2 years ago | (#36779828)

Okay, but the Dark Knight would be a little more careful about protecting his identify than risk being outed by putting his real family name on the dashboard MFD.

Cool but.... (0)

shoehornjob (1632387) | more than 2 years ago | (#36779834)

Loud as hell and you'd figure it would go really fast but NO. I bet the people he passed on the road were like "WTF I done seen the batmobile".

Re:Cool but.... (1)

PopeScott (1343031) | more than 2 years ago | (#36779950)

I would imagine it CAN go fast as hell, but he was on the road. Not like he could open it all the way up. I would like to see some track footage. Loud as hell? Umm yeah It a helicopter turbine wtf did you expect?

Re:Cool but.... (1)

ElectricTurtle (1171201) | more than 2 years ago | (#36779990)

It probably could go faster, but it would require a closed course and/or special permits. It's not like he's magically immune from all traffic laws on public roads like Batman.

Re:Cool but.... (1)

ryanw (131814) | more than 2 years ago | (#36780070)

If I were a cop and saw this dude.. I'd pull him over and say, "Um, let's see how this thing fairs on the freeway.."

Re:Cool but.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36780302)

actually, that depends on HOW fast it can go :)

Re:Cool but.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36784510)

F.O.D.

Re:Cool but.... (1)

lee1 (219161) | more than 2 years ago | (#36784544)

Immune? At least in the TV show Batman was scrupulous in following all traffic laws and wearing seatbelts, sometimes to Robin's annoyance.

Re:Cool but.... (1)

wwphx (225607) | more than 2 years ago | (#36790344)

There was an episode of the original series where one of the villains plants a bomb in the batmobile set if the speedometer hit 60 MPH (or something, like 5 over the limit) and Robin was learning to drive. Bats was very preachy making sure Robin obeyed all traffic laws including the speed limit, so the bomb remained unboomed and eventually discovered.

speed (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36779854)

he went like 30mph.

Nice! (3, Funny)

liquidweaver (1988660) | more than 2 years ago | (#36779936)

Dude needs to buy a really nice batman costume PRONTO and upload videos of ordering at drive thru's.

1/4 mile time? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36779960)

Anybody know if he has a 1/4 mile time somewhere? This thing look slooooow.

Re:1/4 mile time? (1)

rossdee (243626) | more than 2 years ago | (#36780172)

What horsepower is that engine? There were no stats on his homepage.

Re:1/4 mile time? (1)

slinches (1540051) | more than 2 years ago | (#36780380)

Probably somewhere between 300-500hp. It appears to be a Boeing T50/502 [boeing.com]. Although, I wouldn't imagine it's all that fast on the 1/4 mile. Turboshaft engines are designed to operate at a constant speed and are very inefficient when used like a piston engine.

Re:1/4 mile time? (2)

ultranova (717540) | more than 2 years ago | (#36781564)

Probably somewhere between 300-500hp. It appears to be a Boeing T50/502. Although, I wouldn't imagine it's all that fast on the 1/4 mile. Turboshaft engines are designed to operate at a constant speed and are very inefficient when used like a piston engine.

That's just the matter of using the right transmission [wikipedia.org] for the job. Or, failing that, a generator and an electric engine to actually turn the wheels.

Horsepowers = acceleration. If this equation does not hold, don't blame the engine.

Re:1/4 mile time? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36780270)

Well generally speaking with turbine power you get really terrible throttle response. I imagine you'd have to be really careful with this car because once you got up to speed it's probably very difficult to stop. With turbines everything works in a delayed slow motion kind of way. It takes a long time to spin up to speed and a long time to spin down.

I imagine it's probably capable of pretty fast speed but I doubt the aerodynamics are designed properly or even tested and you would really want that done before running flat out. You'd have to do it in a very open area with lots of room to stop, like Bonneville or something.

Not really a practical car in any way but it's cool. I can just imagine the looks on people's faces when they hear that thing.

If you have to say it... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36780022)

"Name, the famous..." is almost never as famous as you want to make us believe.

Open Turbine? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36780108)

I wonder if his insurance deductible will go up after he sucks a bicyclist into his engine.

Re:Open Turbine? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36780498)

Would be well worth it whatever it is....

Video of vehicle (1)

Animats (122034) | more than 2 years ago | (#36780200)

Youtube video of the thing [youtube.com]. Very nice.

It looks like the interior isn't finished. The right third of the dashboard is still open, with cables hanging out, and there's a keyboard stuffed in. So they're still debugging. When he parks the thing and closes the canopy, it gets quieter, so the turbine noise is being dumped into the cockpit. No wonder he wears noise-cancelling headphones.

what is the MPG? (1)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | more than 2 years ago | (#36780228)

5? and I don't think the BP has jet fuel.

Re:what is the MPG? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36780432)

BP may not have Jet-A but they do have diesel and for this application, I would wager it is more than close enough. Paying less than $8+ a gallon is a bonus as well.

Re:what is the MPG? (2)

CompMD (522020) | more than 2 years ago | (#36780646)

Jet-A at my local airport is $4.03/gal.

Re:what is the MPG? (2)

demonbug (309515) | more than 2 years ago | (#36780684)

Jet-A at my local airport is $4.03/gal.

Wow, that's cheaper than diesel.

Anyone know if Jet-A works in a VW?

Re:what is the MPG? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36781538)

Wow, that's cheaper than diesel.

Anyone know if Jet-A works in a VW?

Sure it will, but you'll get fined for not paying road taxes.

Re:what is the MPG? (1)

CompMD (522020) | more than 2 years ago | (#36812548)

It will work. Like AC says though, you can get in trouble for not paying road tax. Also, the price varies wildly depending on where you live and who you buy from. In the Chicago area Jet-A is between $6.60 and $7.00, San Francisco area is $5.90-$7.60, and in KC $4.25-$7.10.

Re:what is the MPG? (2)

wagnerrp (1305589) | more than 2 years ago | (#36780774)

It should be able to run on diesel or gasoline without much trouble. If it burns, you can use it. Fuel isn't injected until you actually want it to burn, so you don't have to worry about knock and pre-ignition like a gasoline motor. As long as its properties are such that the injector can aerosolize it properly, and it's not a slow burn, it should work fine. The problem is the stuff that doesn't burn. Additives like cleaners and solvents may screw up the fuel line and injectors. Any particulate like silica or sulfur will absolutely destroy a hot section.

In the other news (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36780242)

His website is steam powered.

Very Cool! (1)

DaMattster (977781) | more than 2 years ago | (#36780710)

It has the sleek coolness factor of the bat mobile but totally has no stealth whatsoever. You can probably hear that thing coming from a mile away! Nevertheless, I am glad to see that America still has some engineers!

Neat-o... but impractical and noisy. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36780972)

Yeah, I said "Neat-o". A word right from the 1960's and 70's.

Turboshaft engines make absolutely TERRIBLE car engines.

They only run in a very tight RPM range.
They are noisy as fuck.
They produce copious amounts of heat and must be properly cooled (like in an aircraft that when moving can provide a constant high volume source of ram air to cool the engine).
They guzzle fuel at a breathtaking rate.
They only survive a fairly small fixed number of startup/shutdown cycles before the "hot section" must be overhauled because the heating/cooling extremes are devastating in terms of metal fatigue of those parts.

Chrysler learned all this back in the 1950's with their turbine car experiment.

Back in the late 1970's, there was one of the car magazines... can't remember if it was Popular Hotrodding or Hot Rod or one of the others, but someone (Andy Granatelli maybe?) built a turbine-powered Corvette, with a 1200 shp engine from some aircraft, and mated it to a THM-400 automatic transmission. They built a exhaust "muffler" airbox structure that occupied nearly the complete underbelly of the car, with various baffles and long rectangular chambers to try to quiet the thing down enough to not lose your hearing while driving it on the road. With the engine at idle, it would speed up to 70 MPH as the THM400 shifted thru its 3 gears. A full throttle run from a standing stop would smoke the rear tires for the entire length of a 1/4 mile dragstrip, yielding only 12 seconds flat 1/4 mile times because so much energy was wasted spinning the tires too much and they'd never properly grab the pavement. Top end was "ludicrous speed", probably more than the tires or that vintage Corvette's body and chassis were capable of handling safely.... like a fatal wreck just waiting to happen.

Burt Ward (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36781932)

50 comments already and nobody has referenced "Atomic batteries to power; turbines to speed" yet??

Yes but... (1)

Strange Ranger (454494) | more than 2 years ago | (#36782634)

This looks really cool and certainly puts out some impressive noise. But it's hard to get excited when there's no info on horsepower, MPH, time to 60mph, or any other interesting facts.
But mostly watching him cruise at 8mph is just frustrating.
 
OK dude, very cool. You put a ton of effort into building something really neat. But with all that engineering and noise it needs to do more than act as a lone parade float. Would love to see you racing it through the Nevada desert....
 
Kudos for taking it this far of course and making us hungry for more.

Is that it? Really? Kinda sad and pathetic (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36782712)

Is that it? Just a bunch of noise like a 17 year old in his moms Chevette with the tunz cranked? All noise and no show? You could even get 'sounds like a jet plane' noise coming out of the stereo with that baaaad boy! The guy with the Volkswagen Beetle with the normal engine in front, and a 1750 HP jet engine sticking out the back looked a lot more dangerous and I think bug-boy could take bat-boy and give him more than just noise. He could even Toast Him [youtube.com].

Atomic Batteries plz (1)

mustPushCart (1871520) | more than 2 years ago | (#36783446)

Now all he gotta do is build some atomic batteries and he can go 'Atomic batteries to power!.... Turbines to speed!'

Good solution against tailgaters (1)

wvmarle (1070040) | more than 2 years ago | (#36783792)

Good solution against tailgaters. The hot exhaust of the turbine will take care of them!

Looks like a copyright infringement (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36784524)

to me.

Re:Looks like a copyright infringement (1)

wjsteele (255130) | more than 2 years ago | (#36784598)

Why... when it's built by you for your own personal use, patents and copyrights don't apply.

Bill

Arthur (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#36784782)

Now all he needs to do is get it stuck under the Wall Street Bull.

does it work? (1)

hesaigo999ca (786966) | more than 2 years ago | (#36798948)

I would like to know if it works, and if so, what is the top speed of the vehicle, as well as how well does it handle on turns etc....

Ohio! (1)

gozar (39392) | about 2 years ago | (#36823520)

I was laughing at the look of it driving down the highway, thinking to myself how out of place it looks with the farm houses and silos. If only he was a little farther north he could have passed some Amish buggies.
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