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Mass Psychosis In the USA?

timothy posted about 3 years ago | from the don't-actually-want-to-be-sedated dept.

Medicine 542

Hugh Pickens writes "James Ridgeway writes in Al Jazeera that with over $14 billion in sales in 2008, antipsychotics have become the single top-selling therapeutic class of prescription drugs in the U.S., surpassing drugs used to treat high cholesterol and acid reflux. While once upon a time, antipsychotics were reserved for a relatively small number of patients with hard-core psychiatric diagnoses, today it seems, everyone is taking antipsychotics. 'Parents are told that their unruly kids are in fact bipolar, and in need of anti-psychotics, while old people with dementia are dosed, in large numbers, with drugs once reserved largely for schizophrenics,' writes Ridgeway. 'Americans with symptoms ranging from chronic depression to anxiety to insomnia are now being prescribed anti-psychotics at rates that seem to indicate a national mass psychosis.' By now, just about everyone knows how the drug industry works to influence the minds of American doctors, plying them with gifts, junkets, ego-tripping awards, and research funding in exchange for endorsing or prescribing the latest and most lucrative drugs. According to Marcia Angell, former editor of the New England Journal of Medicine, under the tutelage of Big Pharma, we are 'simply expanding the criteria for mental illness so that nearly everyone has one.'"

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Americans are generally psychotic (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36784802)

No surprise here!

Re:Americans are generally psychotic (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36785026)

and europeans are weak willed socialist groupies! yay we can all come up with fun adhominems!

Re:Americans are generally psychotic (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36785090)

The same thing is happening in Europe as well. In some countries, like Holland, they can prescribe you into euthanasia. The only way to win is not to play.

Re:Americans are generally psychotic (4, Informative)

gilleain (1310105) | about 3 years ago | (#36785178)

and europeans are weak willed socialist groupies! yay we can all come up with fun adhominems!

It's not an ad hominem, it's an insult you moron. Oh, and "you moron" was also an insult. I'm not saying your argument is invalid because you are a moron, I'm saying you are a moron because your argument is invalid.

Re:Americans are generally psychotic (2)

Mindcontrolled (1388007) | about 3 years ago | (#36785404)

Thank god for someone understanding what an argumentum ad hominem actually is. I was despairing over that particular bit of nonsense lately, thanks for reinstating at least some of my trust in humanity.

What?! (4, Funny)

pinkj (521155) | about 3 years ago | (#36784808)

That's crazy!

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Re:What?! (1)

Luckyo (1726890) | about 3 years ago | (#36784960)

More like sad.

I Am Not Surprised (5, Interesting)

improfane (855034) | about 3 years ago | (#36785114)

I imagine it's pretty easy to become depressed in our society.

  • Consumerism people judge themselves by products (Apple, car brands, discount retailers), they depend on corporate products to do what they could otherwise do, they are powerless to the system, they buy cake mixtures or microwave teleivsion dinners.
  • Devoid of meaning I'd hazard that most people feel that their life is meaningless which brings me to my next point.
  • Life = job People (by necessity) live life a job, not a life. office workers and labourers.
  • Unchecked capitalism Capitalism doesn't feel soft and fuzzy. You feel powerless. Advertising is harmful.

People who live a job rather than a life do things that advertising and media tell them to do or what other people in their situation do to escape. They turn to alcohol, nightclubs, meaningless sex*, gambling, smoking or anything that is meaningless or self destructive.
* Not that meaningless sex means anything to Slashdotters but I hope my point is made intellectually.

I imagine that these factors, plus the fact that everyone seems to be a big asshole these days contribute to people turning to drugs. Ultmately, people feel disconnected from other people, they are ostracized and bullied. Drugs don't solve problems. You do.

  I feel powerless because of the following:

  • My Privacy invaded day by day
  • My Government and the US government is massively corrupt, doesn't tax companies
  • The unjust succeed while the moral wither
  • Everyone thinks they are right so nothing gets done

As Adam Smith said, agriculture is the root of all progress. Our society is unsustainable and growth seems to be on top of artificial markets. For example, digital markets like the domain market. Or on advertising.

Re:I Am Not Surprised (4, Funny)

Servaas (1050156) | about 3 years ago | (#36785154)

Wasn't this a scene in the extended ultra mega remix ultimate edition Blue-ray disc of Fight Club?

Why is it nobody is happier? (3, Interesting)

improfane (855034) | about 3 years ago | (#36785162)

Ask yourself.

Why aren't you happy? You (probably) have: electricity, abundance of food and water, computers, video games, (some) free time, a job, a loving girlfriend/wife? Money?

You're not happy because you cannot be you in this society.

It's that trite cliche that materials do not bring happiness but they are necessity for happiness. You cannot be happy about something before you have shelter, food and water. (Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs)

Our society lacks somethin that people need. Drugs really don't give that to you.

Arguing about happiness on Slashdot. Very odd.

Re:I Am Not Surprised (1)

Tsingi (870990) | about 3 years ago | (#36785184)

I feel powerless because of the following:

  1. My Privacy invaded day by day
  2. My Government and the US government is massively corrupt, doesn't tax companies
  3. The unjust succeed while the moral wither
  4. Everyone thinks they are right so nothing gets done

While this is all very true, and set to become much worse, if you just take this little pill, you won't mind it at all!

Re:I Am Not Surprised (3, Interesting)

improfane (855034) | about 3 years ago | (#36785266)

If I took the pill, I wouldn't be taking responsibility for what I feel.

What is the biological reasoning behind people who are depressed anyway? How can it be evolutionary? Surely it doesn't serve any good purpose besides feeding predators?

Perhaps it's a side effect of sapience? (of which sapience is a side effect of something else) Perhaps are consciousness and sapience is so unbelievably complex that it simply has 'failures' from times to time, overstimulation or sensitivity. In that case, that makes the pill more like a mechanical fix rather than a cop out.

Re:I Am Not Surprised (4, Insightful)

clifyt (11768) | about 3 years ago | (#36785400)

" I feel powerless because of the following:

        My Privacy invaded day by day
        My Government and the US government is massively corrupt, doesn't tax companies
        The unjust succeed while the moral wither
        Everyone thinks they are right so nothing gets done"

This is all external, and nothing is an internal. Your privacy? Who cares...the problem is that you think someone does care. Stop worrying about how others judge you, and it doesn't matter about your privacy. The gov't is corrupt? The gov't has always been corrupt. The world has always had more corruption than it has righteousness. It is far easier to be corrupt than it is to be righteous. What does this matter towards your powerlessness? You have the choice to be corrupt or righteous. This seems as though it proves you have power. Same with the very next argument...the unjust succeed. How are you defining success? Money? Power over others? These shouldn't determine your success. You are allowing it to determine your success and you have defined success in a way that allows the unjust to get the upper hand in your world.

As for everyone thinking they are right...maybe you need to stop trying to be right as well. I'm probably wrong about all of this...I'm right in my world, but my success in life doesn't depend on you agreeing...if you do, that's cool...but I'm not going to base my concept of success on this. If someone else wants to be right, let them...if you want to be right, don't make your success based on others believing it. Believe that you can be right and someone else can hold an opposing view and still be right too. In most complex situations, there can be multiple paths to the right solution...

Again, who knows if I'm right...I do know I'm happy more often than most people I know...

Re:I Am Not Surprised (1)

Mindcontrolled (1388007) | about 3 years ago | (#36785430)

That's pretty much what Marx summed up under the label of "alienation". And I agree, that's what is going on. Instead of changing the system, we decided to change the mind by means of psychopharmaca. O brave new world....

Re:What?! (1)

aliquis (678370) | about 3 years ago | (#36785138)

Risperdal killed my father (imho.)

while old people with dementia are dosed, in large numbers

I thought FDA recommended against it?

Re:What?! (1)

Sulphur (1548251) | about 3 years ago | (#36785312)

That's crazy!

Spending like crazy too.

Science at work (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36784816)

''Americans with symptoms ranging from chronic depression to anxiety to insomnia are now being prescribed anti-psychotics at rates that seem to indicate a national mass psychosis.'"

Glad to see evidence supports the world's opinion.

Evidence & Problems (4, Interesting)

Oxford_Comma_Lover (1679530) | about 3 years ago | (#36784978)

The point is that it's evidence of overprescription, not of excessive psychotic behavior.

There is also a problem in the observations in the summary--notably, the mere fact that we are expanding our clinical definitions of psychological diagnoses is NOT a bad thing--the problem is when people treat them wrong. The good thing about expanding and re-working the definitions is that it lets you describe and identify conditions better in each generation than you did in the generation before, and maybe learn something more about how they should be best treated.

The problem is that almost nobody does real psychotherapy anymore (except for the filthy rich), so in most cases all people do is prescribe medication as if that would treat the problem. There are cases where it will, and there are more cases where it will treat the symptoms, but it often is very much the wrong approach. You can't sit down with someone and cure a psychological issue with a talking-to or folk medicine--they can be complex and very time-consuming and difficult for people to learn to live with or move past or adapt to the world in spite of--but conversations, activities, and the development of a support network in almost every case I have seen has made a bigger impact by far than the use of drugs.

Re:Evidence & Problems (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36785036)

There is definitely over-prescription but over the years I have noticed a marked increase in anxiety and other mental disorders.

I blame it on many factors. The media is all about death, terrorist, pedophiles, etc. and they love to control people's emotions. The government is pushing the same agenda and getting more oppressive/invasive in our daily lives. Corporations are invading our privacy left and right. Hackers (eg. hostile governments) are stealing all this information from the above groups. Laws are being introduced at an unheard of rate. Everyone is a criminal these days and people are regularly abused by the system and people meant to protect them. What's the prison population at now? And the list goes on (economy/money problems, etc).

I believe those factors are playing a large part in creating a society of fear and loss of control. It's no wonder large numbers of people are developing mental disorders.

Re:Evidence & Problems (2)

Sinthet (2081954) | about 3 years ago | (#36785038)

A big problem that results from this over-prescription is the fact that people will believe the way the drug makes them feel is "normal". These drugs are definitely strong enough to be felt and isolated as a cause, and so the uninformed patient will assume that the doctor found something wrong with me, and this pill is fixing it. This creates more demand for the product, which is great for the companies, but with the wide range of effects these drugs can have on different people and personality types, I doubt it's good for the population as a whole.

I'm not someone who is against drugs, since the drugs here really aren't the problem. Doctor's who take part in this are certainly part of the problem, as are uninformed patients who place 100% trust into (usually) a complete stranger.

Unfortunately, I don't see a viable way to get rid of either problem.

Re:Evidence & Problems (1)

jamesh (87723) | about 3 years ago | (#36785258)

A big problem that results from this over-prescription is the fact that people will believe the way the drug makes them feel is "normal". These drugs are definitely strong enough to be felt and isolated as a cause, and so the uninformed patient will assume that the doctor found something wrong with me, and this pill is fixing it. This creates more demand for the product, which is great for the companies, but with the wide range of effects these drugs can have on different people and personality types, I doubt it's good for the population as a whole.

The other problem it creates is a lack of empathy for those who really do have a mental illness... "Depression? Yeah I had a bad case of that the other day, but I took one of these and now I feel all better. Maybe you just need to take more pills?"

Maybe the scientologists, while a little extreme, had a point ;)

Re:Evidence & Problems (1)

PJ6 (1151747) | about 3 years ago | (#36785270)

The point is that it's evidence of overprescription, not of excessive psychotic behavior.

There is also a problem in the observations in the summary--notably, the mere fact that we are expanding our clinical definitions of psychological diagnoses is NOT a bad thing

Yes it is. If you're a hammer everything looks like a nail.

Research should be much more focused on what makes a person's mind healthy and resilient. But assuming that most of us possess the keys to our own growth doesn't fit with the economic model of the industry.

You're 'sick' but we can 'cure' you. And by they way, we need your MONEY. Always more MONEY.

Re:Evidence & Problems (1)

Idbar (1034346) | about 3 years ago | (#36785382)

The evidence could even show the greediness of physicians. The health and drug industry in the USA is a really large mafia, where a dentist can tell you it will fix you a microscopic caries for arbitrarily high costs. Physicians will give you medicine for whatever you don't have, so you keep coming for 'control schedules' and they can keep getting their money (even though normally is a nurse, the one that takes you blood pressure, asks you to open and say "ah", and dismiss you for some bucks).

Re:Science at work (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36785084)

the level of arrogance is astounding.. first you presume that you represent 'the world's' opinion, and second you adhominem an entire country based on preconceived notions. Ok, then I can do the same. So much for your 'multi-culturalism' eh? you know, that pathetic willingness to let barbarians into your countries to build ghettos and sharia courts? weak willed hypocrite!

Sure (1)

mbone (558574) | about 3 years ago | (#36784826)

I can believe it. Have you looked at our politics lately ?

Re:Sure (3, Insightful)

FudRucker (866063) | about 3 years ago | (#36784872)

yeah, because the US FedGov wants everyone too doped up to care about how badly they are getting fucked by the system...

infowars.com

Re:Sure (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36785310)

Don't knock the Feds. It's hard work keeping a balance among
druged citizens so they won't OD on music and games but will
still pay their bills, loans and taxes; with someting left over for
fattening carbohydrates and donations for animal shelters.

bring on the trolls (-1, Offtopic)

iamhassi (659463) | about 3 years ago | (#36784828)

here come the trolls saying all americans are crazy. Can't we block foreign IPs from this website? Or at least foreign IPs posting as AC?

Re:bring on the trolls (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36784886)

Go to Fox News if you think only your biased opinion is the correct one.

Re:bring on the trolls (3, Insightful)

1u3hr (530656) | about 3 years ago | (#36784904)

Can't we block foreign IPs from this website? Or at least foreign IPs posting as AC?

Can we block redneck bigots from this site? Or at least start Americans with karma -1 by default?

Re:bring on the trolls (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36785136)

can we block socialist passive aggressive sharia loving faggot ewropeons too?

Re:bring on the trolls (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36785344)

And by your own post you are as much a Bigot if not more.

Try holding yourself to the same standard you demand of others.

Re:bring on the trolls (1)

Opportunist (166417) | about 3 years ago | (#36784910)

And while it would be a convenient explanation, the one that's probably more likely is that there is money to be made by selling drugs and hence there is quite some interest to call everyone who isn't "normal" by some arbitrary standard nuts and hence in need of drugs.

It's a bit like hypertension. When the sales for blood pressure lowering drugs were not high enough, we simply lowered the normal blood pressure ranges from about 130/100 to 120/80 and suddenly a lot of people were in dire need to lower their pressure.

Re:bring on the trolls (1)

garaged (579941) | about 3 years ago | (#36785196)

Yeah, there is the money thing, but more important, there is the "stupud people" thing, what worries me most is that at least 2nd world war was started because germans were stupid enough, we are now in a similar fashion but with americans

Re:bring on the trolls (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36785268)

The other half of this argument is that, intellectually speaking, the mindset of modern psychiatry has no solid foundations from which to make judgements, so Big Pharma can easily undermine their thinking so that psychiatric decisions fall in favour of Big Pharma. They are very clever and subtle in how they do this.

Re:bring on the trolls (0)

PopeRatzo (965947) | about 3 years ago | (#36785272)

t's a bit like hypertension. When the sales for blood pressure lowering drugs were not high enough, we simply lowered the normal blood pressure ranges from about 130/100 to 120/80 and suddenly a lot of people were in dire need to lower their pressure

There's that, but I think considering how badly we're being served by a particular segment of the corporate and ownership classes, there are reasons that they would want us on anti-psychotics. If there were not these anti-psychotics and anti-depressants and alcohol and street drugs, there would have been a violent overthrow of the government already. There are certain weaker-minded people for whom Fox News and the corporate media is enough. For the rest, there's a pill or powder.

Of course, the other possibility is that psychosis is the appropriate response to America circa 2011.

Re:bring on the trolls (1)

mutherhacker (638199) | about 3 years ago | (#36784940)

Foreign? There's no such thing as nations on the internet you imbecile. That's the one good thing about it. And the fact that I can call you an imbecile from the safety my mom's basement.

Re:bring on the trolls (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36785016)

Foreign? There's no such thing as nations on the internet you imbecile. That's the one good thing about it.

Please write to me at fakeaddress@nyc.ny.us to discuss more.

Re:bring on the trolls (4, Funny)

ctid (449118) | about 3 years ago | (#36784988)

That sounds a bit paranoid to me. Perhaps you should talk to your doctor. You could probably get drugs to help you with that.

Re:bring on the trolls (2)

belthize (990217) | about 3 years ago | (#36785034)

As an non-native American (family has only been here about 7 generations) I think it's not that far a stretch to say many American's are paranoid delusional at least when it comes to foreigners. It's probably something in the water making them crazy.

We can count them and see if we reach a couple hundred million, you can be '1'.

Re:bring on the trolls (1)

memyselfandeye (1849868) | about 3 years ago | (#36785328)

It's probably something in the water making them crazy.

We must protect our precious bodily fluids from water fluoridation of our public water supply by communist spies. So I demand that the President launches a full scale preemptive attack against The former USSR, China, Berkley, and Harvard.

Re:bring on the trolls (2)

Sardak (773761) | about 3 years ago | (#36785078)

I'm an american, and I think you're all fucking crazy, too. The strongest drug I take on any sort of regular basis is ibuprofen. I've been diagnosed with clinical depression, but I'm not taking anything for it. I was originally prescribed a couple of different things, but they had no positive effect whatsoever.

Re:bring on the trolls (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36785096)

Ask not for whom the bell trolls; it trolls for thee.
 

Just call it "Soma" ... (4, Insightful)

Lazy Jones (8403) | about 3 years ago | (#36784830)

Aldous Huxley was spot on ...

Re:Just call it "Soma" ... (1)

frdmfghtr (603968) | about 3 years ago | (#36785046)

I had the same comparison to "A Brave New World." I've been meaning to go back and read it again. Perhaps this should be required reading.

They treat more than schizophrenia (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36784838)

I'm on an anti-psychotic for depression. When everything else failed, this worked.

Re:They treat more than schizophrenia (2)

Manip (656104) | about 3 years ago | (#36785168)

Exactly what else did the doctor suggest you try? Counselling, Group Theory, Dietary changes? Or was it just, you go in, BANG, prescription for drugs and problem solved?

Re:They treat more than schizophrenia (1)

PopeRatzo (965947) | about 3 years ago | (#36785298)

Exactly what else did the doctor suggest you try?

Paying his bill.

Here in the US we don't have nearly as good medical care as say, Bulgaria, unless you're part of the ownership class.

You know, they say the health care system in the US is so bad it makes you crazy, which gives me a different insight into this story about psychosis in the US.

Soma (2)

srussia (884021) | about 3 years ago | (#36784842)

It's a Brave New World.

Expensive drugs? (5, Insightful)

zAPPzAPP (1207370) | about 3 years ago | (#36784854)

Maybe those drugs are just super expensive. A total number of consumers would be more useful.

Re:Expensive drugs? (5, Informative)

Hebbinator (1001954) | about 3 years ago | (#36785040)

DINGDINGDINGDING

Most brand-name antipsychotics can go WHOLESALE for 400-500/month, some are even more than that. Most cholesterol drugs are now on the $4 list, or have a $4 equivalent, except for lipitor (debateable whether or not it could be substituted for another statin because of all the studies..) which will be generic soon. Acid-reflux drug sales bottomed out as omeprazole (Prilosec) went generic and over the counter - the PPI class used to be the big money maker here because there were no generic alternatives. The new generation of antipsychotics are ALL still on patent except for Risperidone.

Also of note: "antipsychotics" are used to treat more than psychosis. They have been shown to be very helpful in several other psychiatric illnesses.. although I must say there are a *LOT* of cheaper/better alternatives for insomnia. These are not "off label" uses, by the way - many antipsychotics have been researched and gained FDA approval for more than one disease/condition. The class name is being substituted for the indication here to cause a stir.. "if you are on an 'antipsychotic,' then you must be psychotic!" A better name would be "selective d-2 receptor blockers with varying serotonin and anticholinergic receptor activity" but its a bit lengthy ;)

The real headline here should be "PPI and Statin drug sales wiped out by generic replacements, antipsychotics still under patent. Also, some people havent heard about ambien yet."

Re:Expensive drugs? (1)

mewshi_nya (1394329) | about 3 years ago | (#36785358)

Exactly. One of the prescriptions I was one a while ago was 800/month without insurance.

Obviously (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36784858)

thinking big pharma conspire with doctors to prescribe antipsychotic drugs to healthy people rings of conspiracy theories. Those that adhere to such drivel obviously have psychics problems and should be sent to mad houses so they can be cured by the use of antipsychotic drugs.

Or Mass Over-Prescription... (2)

Scotland Tom (974094) | about 3 years ago | (#36784874)

Or it's just a case of mass over-prescription of antipsychotics. Nothing is normal anymore, EVERYONE has some kind of mental or physical disorder that must be treated by drugs.

Re:Or Mass Over-Prescription... (1)

Bramlet Abercrombie (1435537) | about 3 years ago | (#36785020)

Just because you are prescribed something doesn't mean you have to start taking it. I was prescribed citalopram and never took a single pill. I'm not going to take a drug that gives people "brain shocks" when they stop taking it, that's insane.

My nonprofessional observation: (1)

mcgrew (92797) | about 3 years ago | (#36784876)

Thanks to drug companies' advertising, it seems a lot of drugs of different classes are overprescribed. I'm no M.D. but it doesn't seem that antipsychotics would do much good for depression.

My doctor had me on Paxil for a year or so after my divorce, they were hard to get off of and I'd wished I'd never taken them.

However, it sure seems like there are an awful lot of really crazy people here in Springfield, many of them violent, who should probably be on medication but aren't. I'm 59 and I don't remember very many nutballs when I was young, but there sure seem to be a lot of crazies these days. I often wonder why, but didn't Reagan throw a bunch of lunatics out of the mental institutions back in the eighties?

Re:My nonprofessional observation: (2)

drinkypoo (153816) | about 3 years ago | (#36784894)

Maybe those people are crazy because they're OVERmedicated? And further, because the only things the public health system will pay for on their behalf are shit? I had a county health official prescribe me a pill for respiratory function that it turned out the county health wouldn't pay for (this was a while back in my student days) even when petitioned... something that had been on the approved list just a month earlier, and something for which there was no more effective replacement.

Re:My nonprofessional observation: (1)

TapeCutter (624760) | about 3 years ago | (#36785028)

Maybe those people are crazy because they're OVERmedicated?

Zoloft + alcohol = crazy fucker.

It's our society and pharmaceutical propaganda (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36785048)

A lot of docs prescribe those drugs to help folks sleep. In the US, many folks need help with sleep or think they do.

I used to worry about my sleep until I found out that not only is sometimes waking up in the middle of the night normal but the pharmaceutical companies brainwashed us with their advertisements that we need to sleep - out cold - for 8+ hours a night. Sometimes I pop awake at 3AM worrying but I eventually go back to sleep. I'm a little tired the next day but it is sure and hell better than any brain fog from meds - especially Lunesta or Ambien!

Also, anti-psychotics are used for folks with anxiety. Corporate America is causing us A LOT of anxiety about our jobs AND when you factor in our consumerist getting into debt way of life, we're all freaked out.

We're treating symptoms - not the problem.

Everyone wins (3, Interesting)

alphatel (1450715) | about 3 years ago | (#36784884)

Last year my wife was suffering from some anxiety during her pregnancy. An internal medicine doctor prescribed an anti-psychosis drug to treat bipolar disorder. The list of side effects included just about everything you wouldn't want to happen to a pregnant women. What would a drug like this do to an unborn child, let alone an adult!

Re:Everyone wins (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36785264)

Big Pharms a scourge on society. I don't know a single woman that isn't popping a pill of some kind, and most are gobbling down an entire bouquet of colours every day. The western medical establishment no longer practices medicine, if you want an actual cure for your ailment, go to a Chinese doctor (that hasn't been bought off).

Re:Everyone wins (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36785286)

Last year my wife was suffering from some anxiety during her pregnancy. An internal medicine doctor prescribed an anti-psychosis drug to treat bipolar disorder. The list of side effects included just about everything you wouldn't want to happen to a pregnant women. What would a drug like this do to an unborn child, let alone an adult!

Making sure the child needs anti-psychotics from the craddle?

This is surprising... why? (1)

Opportunist (166417) | about 3 years ago | (#36784888)

The "dumb" half of the country goes manic from the hype on the media, the "smart" half gets depressed by seeing what happening. One half swallows the hype and goes nuts over it, the other half doesn't and descends into hope- and helplessness.

Well that explains (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36784892)

the popularity of Facebook and the iPhone.

The TEA Party? (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36784896)

And politics in general. Now there's a reason for me to keep myself thoroughly medicated.

Re:The TEA Party? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36785368)

And politics in general. Now there's a reason for me to keep myself thoroughly medicated.

Why? Because you failed to thoroughly medicate the tea party?

The Century of the Self (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36784906)

Check out the BBC show "The Century of the Self"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/documentaries/features/century_of_the_self.shtml

When you see that, it becomes pretty clear that the US population were unsuspecting guinea pigs in what's certainly the biggest experiment in mass psychology ever done. And that experiment FAILED.

Al Jazeera? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36784928)

We're trusting a article about America from a Arab-nation news service?

Re:Al Jazeera? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36784952)

The state of one's appearance is seen better from outside.

Afghanistan (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36784932)

Many of those psychotropic drugs are derived from opiates. Is the US's continued military presence in Afghanistan (one of the biggest opium producers in the world) the unprecedented prescribing of these drugs ("...expanding the criteria for mental illness so that nearly everyone has one") and the need to pay down an ever-escalating debt, connected? Make everyone an addict and then sell them what they want – no quicker 'get rich quick' scheme.

Re:Afghanistan (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36785230)

As far as I'm aware no antipsychotics are derived from opiates.

I am on antipsychotics. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36784976)

I am on these class of drugs. For over 10 years now. When I was diagnosed I told my shrink some jibberish about aliens, and was having violent outbursts. I'm not joking about this. I was hallucinating with no drugs, I was messed up really bad. A few really bad LSD trips and down I went, permanent insanity. Tell your shrink that you're telepathic and there are greys, and actually believe it, well they can help you. They helped me get back to "normal" whatever that is, but they no doubt have helped me substantially. Properly used they can save your life, and possibly the lives of others if you happen to have black trenchcoat machine gun thoughts like I had, along with awareness of some kind of alien agenda influencing our technological progress. These were all my own thoughts at the time in college (1997), it was so obvious to me, but not to my doctors.

I don't know what to say really, maybe I was "too smart" for my own good. These drugs have dumbed me down a lot, just enough to be able to deal with people, while still retaining my individuality.

Re:I am on antipsychotics. (1)

jamesh (87723) | about 3 years ago | (#36785278)

I am on these class of drugs. For over 10 years now. When I was diagnosed I told my shrink some jibberish about aliens

I've always assumed that this is why the scientologists don't like mental illness being treated properly...

Re:I am on antipsychotics. (1)

JamesP (688957) | about 3 years ago | (#36785378)

You are probably one of the few correctly diagnostic persons on Anti-psychotics

We approve (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36784998)

We are happy our methods to diagnose mental illnesses in others and to cure them has been adopted by the capitalistic USA. We are sad it took this long. We still hope for a formal apology for slandering us and our methods for thirty years.

The KGB.

Lack of exercise (4, Insightful)

antifoidulus (807088) | about 3 years ago | (#36785006)

Well, as is obvious from our ever expanding waistlines, Americans are getting less and less exercise?and probably sunlight too). I wonder if this is, at least in part, contributing to our increased depression. Several studies have shown pretty clearly that exercise is a great, if not the best, treatment for mild to moderate depression. So instead if sucking down big pharma and big agra's endless supply of shit, maybe we should try getting off our ass and going out for a run or bike ride.

Re:Lack of exercise (1)

Sinthet (2081954) | about 3 years ago | (#36785092)

This is certainly true. Whenever I need to force my mind off something, I try to go for a long run (at least 4 to 5 miles). I don't want to sound like some kind of freak who gets a sudden high from running a few miles, but the physical exhaustion, along with the long period of continual exercise in a uniform manner borders on a kind of meditation that certainly helps shift your perspective. I recommend people who are depressed try something like this. It's much easier to feel bad for yourself when you're depressed, or just "not care", but trying something like this won't hurt, and if nothing like this works, then go see a doctor.

Re:Lack of exercise (1)

harrytuttle777 (1720146) | about 3 years ago | (#36785242)

Here Here (not sure if that is correct. let the grammer nazzies call me a faggot). Exercise has certainly helped me become less depressed and less gay, so it should work for everyone. There used to be a lot more manual labor jobs in the USA. Working with your hands was expected and appreciated. Now a days it seems like only illegal immigrants are allowed to work with their hands. ( They also have the lowest rate of mental illness). Good old fashioned hard work is frowned upon, and derided as being unnecessarily faggy (unless you are illegal, and then it is cool). Is it a coincidence. I think not.

As Stalin said, "The only cure for mental suffering is physical pain"

In spite of the fact that Stalin was a big faggot, he at least got this right. You can not worry about your mental problems if you are suffering physical hardship. The physical hardship doesn't have to be starvation like Stalin suggested, it could be building a house, or working on your deadlift.

Really? (-1, Troll)

DaveV1.0 (203135) | about 3 years ago | (#36785030)

We should be giving it to all those delusional theists, especially muslims whose religion teaches it is OK to lie, cheat, and steal from non-muslims; teaches that it is OK to murder in the name of their god; teaches forced conversions; whose adherents simultaneously decry terrorism and celebrate successful terrorist attacks. But, as so many Americans are feeling helpless and threatened by muslims and hated by most of the world, it is no wonder many Americans are taking psychiatric drugs.

And, before dumbasses pipe up with "Islam doesn't teach that!!", Mohamed stated that if the new word contradicts the old word, the new word takes precedence. All the "peace and love" crap in the koran is in the older sections and all the "kill the infidels if they do not convert!!!" is in the newest books. Don't forget that, because I won't.

Big pharma is going where the money is (1)

waxcrash (604628) | about 3 years ago | (#36785042)

I remember reading an article years ago about how how the big pharmaceuticals don't invest enough research in antibiotics and how drug resistant bacteria is the new epidemic. The reason the pharmaceutical companies don't research new antibiotics is because there is no money in it. Why create a drug that a person only takes for a few weeks when you can create an anti-psychotic that people will take for years? It's a sad world.

Everyone is mentally ill except the Scientologists (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36785072)

and these stats prove it. Time to audit those body thetan copies known as engrams!

Meds that make eunuchs (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36785100)

It has been documented that lithium in anti-psychotic drugs can cause men to be limp sexually and unable to perform.
When the lithium is combined with sexual performance enhancers, it can cause a normal pleasure experience to be extremely painful for the guy.

Forced (5, Interesting)

ChaoticCoyote (195677) | about 3 years ago | (#36785106)

Over a decade ago, a school psychologist noticed "odd" behavior in one of my daughters. Under the guise of "vigilence", they looked for people to put on drugs. My girls, in grades 1 and 3, were interrogated -- without my permissions or knowledge -- by a school psychologist, who diagnose them with various psychotic disorders. Why? Because the girls told wild tales -- one claimed to know how to fly, and the other told dark tales ala Poe and Lovecraft.

This bitch of a psychiatrist demanded that we drug our children, and began the process of forcing us to give the girls "medicine" (i.e., anti-psychotic and ADHD drugs), even when other psychiatrists said that my daughters were fine. When asked why she was so insistent on treating my daughters for something that didn't exist, the offending psychiatrist said:

"I've been taking these drugs most of my life. I know they're good for your kids."

Needless to say, I no longer live in Colorado, where this travesty was legal. My girls are intelligent, creative, productive young adults (with lots of quirks, like any smart person). Now that they're adults, they can chose what the do and do not put in their bodies.

American society is driven by a need by people's to feel like a victim, by fear, and by selfish greed. It is a recipe for disaster.

Re:Forced (1)

garaged (579941) | about 3 years ago | (#36785330)

That is fscking creepy, congrats for taking the correct and more complex way with your girls, I have two daugthers and that really scares me.

Re:Forced (1)

improfane (855034) | about 3 years ago | (#36785398)

Wow. That's horrific. I am glad you moved away.

I imagine psychiatrists get commission on prescribing drugs. I can't describe how wrong it feels the fact he demanded your children be prescribed too. It sounds like in his medicated state that he must 'convert' others to the same mental state.

Medicated ostracization.

Re:Forced (2)

shoehornjob (1632387) | about 3 years ago | (#36785428)

Damn right. I have a daughter much like your two. Fortunately we know the school nurse (no psych in 2nd grade) and she would never do something like that bitch tried to do to your kids. "I've been taking these drugs most of my life. I know they're good for your kids." That's the problem right there.

Counteracting........ (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36785128)

The pills are to counteract what they put in the water and the vaccinations they give kids.

But joking aside, seeing a lot of the younger people...I have to wonder if there isn't some kind of exposure people were getting in the mid 80s and early 90s. Can't tell if the trend has continued in future generations yet since they are still growing up.

Placebo effect for hypochondriacs (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36785140)

Many of those drugs are no better than placebos, meaning that they do nothing. Therefore, it is OK if many hypochondriac people take them. The result is the same as acupuncture, or any other highly diluted miracle drug, which is basically just water. If it makes people feel better - fine.

Re:Placebo effect for hypochondriacs (1)

Trepidity (597) | about 3 years ago | (#36785396)

I'd rather see a big upsurge in the popularity of homeopathic medicine in that case. At least the money goes to mostly-harmless hippies, the side effects are fewer, and it's cheaper.

Re:Placebo effect for hypochondriacs (2)

JamesP (688957) | about 3 years ago | (#36785410)

Wrong

They do something. They bind to the receptors and stuff...

They may be called "placebos" because they don't "fix" the main issue, but they certainly change the chemistry.

It's like giving ulcer medication to someone with a broken leg.

Phenylalanine (1, Troll)

phrostie (121428) | about 3 years ago | (#36785170)

ever read what goes into Coke or Pepsi diet drinks?

Phenylalanine

"ADD/ADHD, emotional and behavioral disorders can all be triggered by too much Phenylalanine in the daily diet"

Life sucks, dudes. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36785174)

The fact is that a lot of people live unfulfilling lives.

Advertisement and propaganda (1)

Alex Belits (437) | about 3 years ago | (#36785176)

Forms of advertisement and propaganda that are commonly used in US, rely on subjecting the viewer/listener to extreme emotional pressure, as person's current state (not owning a product, acting in a manner different from one being prescribed) is portrayed as miserable, ridiculous or immoral. As a result the goal is achieved (some of affected people buy products and obey the norms of thoughts and behavior promoted by propaganda, to get rid of negative self-perception) however both those who comply and those who don't, have to deal with constant stream of insults and manipulation directed toward them from all forms of mass media. After decades of this escalating pressure, people become mentally unstable, stupid, and incapable of normal emotional reaction to real-life events.

Things haven't really changed (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36785234)

It used to be that people would self-medicate with nicotine and alcohol. Nowadays it has become socially unpopular to smoke and drink that much, so prescription drugs have taken over. Is that so bad? I don't think so. You never hear about anybody who loses their job because they can't stop taking Zoloft or kills somebody because they were driving under the influence of Paxil!

Of course part of it is that when you go to the doctor with a complaint, you kind of expect him to do something.

dom

I am actually Schizo, tried most of this drugs (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36785288)

I am a diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic. During the long process of treating and coping with this disorder I have tried most of the common anti-psychotic medication. In particular:

-Zyprexa, olanzapine. Worked like charm in the beginning, but failed eventually leeding back to psychosis
-Risperdal, risperidone. Worked but resulted in awful trembling, not nice
-Haldol, haloperidol. Absolutely the worst of the worst, awful muscle stiffness
-Leponex, clozapine. Potentially the most dangerous anti-pschycotic, because of posibillty of low white cell bloodcount. Extremely sedating, but in the end it cured my schizophrenia almost completely, leeding to rehabilitation and a job. (This one was also served with talk/psycho therapy.)

I have learned both how useful these drugs are AND how strong they are.
The drugs are really difficult to stop once taken regularly.

I take these medication because of a genuine illness, and would only recommend to use these meds in case of severe and diagnosed mental illness.

Why would you take something so strong if you are experiencing only mild symptoms, or to treat life as is?
You would not take anti-cancer drugs because of sleeplessness would you?

So be smart and take care of yourself and your children.

That explains some of the drivers I see. (1)

kmdrtako (1971832) | about 3 years ago | (#36785372)

Clearly a lot of drivers I see on the road are over-medicated.

It exist (1)

koan (80826) | about 3 years ago | (#36785416)

"Mass Psychosis In the USA?" Yes it exist and effects nearly everyone in the population, it's called Television, don't laugh...how else can you explain FOX news or TV shows where a serial killer is the hero?

We have all been mislead, driven mad, outright lied too, and given values that have no depth and are meaningless, all by television.

8 or more hours a day of murder, rape, and stupidity eventually takes its toll.

It's not my fault!!! (4, Funny)

Vinegar Joe (998110) | about 3 years ago | (#36785434)

I'm a victim! It's the environment! My mom was cruel to me! Hormones make me eat too much! Video games make me violent!

All I need is some understanding. And another pill.

Or I'll kill you.

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