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Apple Releases Mac OS X Lion, Updates Air

CmdrTaco posted more than 3 years ago | from the hear-me-roar dept.

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steffann was one of several readers to note that Apple has released OS X Lion for $30 available only through the Mac App Store. It's a 4 gig download so you better not be in a hurry. Lots of new stuff both cosmetic and functional. But if you're the sort of person who is going to install it today, then you already know what they are! They also updated the Air lineup, dropping the old white MacBooks entirely.

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penis (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36823142)

i'm all gay and stuff. but not gay enough to use apple.

linux for my gay-loving cock all the way!

Re:penis (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36823182)

It has come to my attention that the entire Linux community is a hotbed of so called 'alternative sexuality', which includes anything from hedonistic orgies to homosexuality to paedophilia.

What better way of demonstrating this than by looking at the hidden messages contained within the names of some of Linux's most outspoken advocates:

  • Linus Torvalds [microsoft.com] is an anagram of slit anus or VD 'L,' clearly referring to himself by the first initial.
  • Richard M. Stallman [archive.org] , spokespervert for the Gaysex's Not Unusual 'movement' is an anagram of mans cram thrill ad.
  • Alan Cox [microsoft.com] is barely an anagram of anal cox which is just so filthy and unchristian it unnerves me.

I'm sure that Eric S. Raymond, composer of the satanic homosexual [goatse.fr] propaganda diatribe The Cathedral and the Bizarre, is probably an anagram of something queer, but we don't need to look that far as we know he's always shoving a gun up some poor little boy's rectum. Update: Eric S. Raymond is actually an anagram for secondary rim and cord in my arse. It just goes to show you that he is indeed queer.

Update the Second: It is also documented that Evil Sicko Gaymond is responsible for a nauseating piece of code called Fetchmail [microsoft.com] , which is obviously sinister sodomite slang for 'Felch Male' -- a disgusting practise. For those not in the know, 'felching' is the act performed by two perverts wherein one sucks their own post-coital ejaculate out of the other's rectum. In fact, it appears that the dirty Linux faggots set out to undermine the good Republican institution of e-mail, turning it into 'e-male.'

As far as Richard 'Master' Stallman goes, that filthy fudge-packer was actually quoted [salon.com] on leftist commie propaganda site Salon.com as saying the following: 'I've been resistant to the pressure to conform in any circumstance,' he says. 'It's about being able to question conventional wisdom,' he asserts. 'I believe in love, but not monogamy,' he says plainly.

And this isn't a made up troll bullshit either! He actually stated this tripe, which makes it obvious that he is trying to politely say that he's a flaming homo [comp-u-geek.net] slut [rotten.com] !

Speaking about 'flaming,' who better to point out as a filthy chutney ferret than Slashdot's very own self-confessed pederast Jon Katz. Although an obvious deviant anagram cannot be found from his name, he has already confessed, nay boasted of the homosexual [goatse.fr] perversion of corrupting the innocence of young children [slashdot.org] . To quote from the article linked:

'I've got a rare kidney disease,' I told her. 'I have to go to the bathroom a lot. You can come with me if you want, but it takes a while. Is that okay with you? Do you want a note from my doctor?'

Is this why you were touching your penis [rotten.com] in the cinema, Jon? And letting the other boys touch it too?

We should also point out that Jon Katz refers to himself as 'Slashdot's resident Gasbag.' Is there any more doubt? For those fortunate few who aren't aware of the list of homosexual [goatse.fr] terminology found inside the Linux 'Sauce Code,' a 'Gasbag' is a pervert who gains sexual gratification from having a thin straw inserted into his urethra (or to use the common parlance, 'piss-pipe'), then his homosexual [goatse.fr] lover blows firmly down the straw to inflate his scrotum. This is, of course, when he's not busy violating the dignity and copyright of posters to Slashdot by gathering together their postings and publishing them en masse to further his twisted and manipulative journalistic agenda.

Sick, disgusting antichristian perverts, the lot of them.

In addition, many of the Linux distributions (a 'distribution' is the most common way to spread the faggots' wares) are run by faggot groups. The Slackware [redhat.com] distro is named after the 'Slack-wear' fags wear to allow easy access to the anus for sexual purposes. Furthermore, Slackware is a close anagram of claw arse, a reference to the homosexual [goatse.fr] practise of anal fisting. The Mandrake [slackware.com] product is run by a group of French faggot satanists, and is named after the faggot nickname for the vibrator. It was also chosen because it is an anagram for dark amen and ram naked, which is what they do.

Another 'distro,' (abbrieviated as such because it sounds a bit like 'Disco,' which is where homosexuals [goatse.fr] preyed on young boys in the 1970s), is Debian, [mandrake.com] an anagram of in a bed, which could be considered innocent enough (after all, a bed is both where we sleep and pray), until we realise what other names Debian uses to describe their foul wares. 'Woody' is obvious enough, being a term for the erect male penis [rotten.com] , glistening with pre-cum. But far sicker is the phrase 'Frozen Potato' that they use. This filthy term, again found in the secret homosexual [goatse.fr] 'Sauce Code,' refers to the solo homosexual [goatse.fr] practice of defecating into a clear polythene bag, shaping the turd into a crude approximation of the male phallus, then leaving it in the freezer overnight until it becomes solid. The practitioner then proceeds to push the frozen 'potato' up his own rectum, squeezing it in and out until his tight young balls erupt in a screaming orgasm.

And Red Hat [debian.org] is secret homo [comp-u-geek.net] slang for the tip of a penis [rotten.com] that is soaked in blood from a freshly violated underage ringpiece.

The fags have even invented special tools to aid their faggotry! For example, the 'supermount' tool was devised to allow deeper penetration, which is good for fags because it gives more pressure on the prostate gland. 'Automount' is used, on the other hand, because Linux users are all fat and gay, and need to mount each other [comp-u-geek.net] automatically.

The depths of their depravity can be seen in their use of 'mount points.' These are, plainly speaking, the different points of penetration. The main one is obviously/anus, but there are others. Militant fags even say 'there is no/opt mount point' because for these dirty perverts faggotry is not optional but a way of life.

More evidence is in the fact that Linux users say how much they love `man`, even going so far as to say that all new Linux users (who are in fact just innocent heterosexuals indoctrinated by the gay propaganda) should try out `man`. In no other system do users boast of their frequent recourse to a man.

Other areas of the system also show Linux's inherent gayness. For example, people are often told of the 'FAQ,' but how many innocent heterosexual Windows [amiga.com] users know what this actually means. The answer is shocking: Faggot Anal Quest: the voyage of discovery for newly converted fags!

Even the title 'Slashdot [geekizoid.com] ' originally referred to a homosexual [goatse.fr] practice. Slashdot [kuro5hin.org] of course refers to the popular gay practice of blood-letting. The Slashbots, of course are those super-zealous homosexuals [goatse.fr] who take this perversion to its extreme by ripping open their anuses, as seen on the site most popular with Slashdot users, the depraved work of Satan, http://www.eff.org/ [eff.org] .

The editors of Slashdot [slashduh.org] also have homosexual [goatse.fr] names: 'Hemos' is obvious in itself, being one vowel away from 'Homos.' But even more sickening is 'Commander Taco' which sounds a bit like 'Commode in Taco,' filthy gay slang for a pair of spreadeagled buttocks that are caked with excrement [pboy.com] . (The best form of lubrication, they insist.) Sometimes, these 'Taco Commodes' have special 'Salsa Sauce' (blood from a ruptured rectum) and 'Cheese' (rancid flakes of penis [rotten.com] discharge) toppings. And to make it even worse, Slashdot [notslashdot.org] runs on Apache!

The Apache [microsoft.com] server, whose use among fags is as prevalent as AIDS, is named after homosexual [goatse.fr] activity -- as everyone knows, popular faggot band, the Village People, featured an Apache Indian, and it is for him that this gay program is named.

And that's not forgetting the use of patches in the Linux fag world -- patches are used to make the anus accessible for repeated anal sex even after its rupture by a session of fisting.

To summarise: Linux is gay. 'Slash -- Dot' is the graphical description of the space between a young boy's scrotum and anus. And BeOS [apple.com] is for hermaphrodites and disabled 'stumpers.'

FEEDBACK

What worries me is how much you know about what gay people do. I'm scared I actually read this whole thing. I think this post is a good example of the negative effects of Internet usage on people. This person obviously has no social life anymore and had to result to writing something as stupid as this. And actually take the time to do it too. Although... I think it was satire.. blah.. it's early. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

Well, the only reason I know all about this is because I had the misfortune to read the Linux 'Sauce code' once. Although publicised as the computer code needed to get Linux up and running on a computer (and haven't you always been worried about the phrase 'Monolithic Kernel'?), this foul document is actually a detailed and graphic description of every conceivable degrading perversion known to the human race, as well as a few of the major animal species. It has shocked and disturbed me, to the point of needing to shock and disturb the common man to warn them of the impending homo [comp-u-geek.net] -calypse which threatens to engulf our planet.

You must work for the government. Trying to post the most obscene stuff in hopes that slashdot won't be able to continue or something, due to legal woes. If i ever see your ugly face, i'm going to stick my fireplace poker up your ass, after it's nice and hot, to weld shut that nasty gaping hole of yours. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

Doesn't it give you a hard-on to imagine your thick strong poker ramming it's way up my most sacred of sphincters? You're beyond help, my friend, as the only thing you can imagine is the foul penetrative violation of another man. Are you sure you're not Eric Raymond? The government, being populated by limp-wristed liberals, could never stem the sickening tide of homosexual [goatse.fr] child molesting Linux advocacy. Hell, they've given NAMBLA free reign for years!

you really should post this logged in. i wish i could remember jebus's password, cuz i'd give it to you. -- mighty jebus [slashdot.org] , Slashdot

Thank you for your kind words of support. However, this document shall only ever be posted anonymously. This is because the 'Open Sauce' movement is a sham, proposing homoerotic cults of hero worshipping in the name of freedom. I speak for the common man. For any man who prefers the warm, enveloping velvet folds of a woman's vagina [bodysnatchers.co.uk] to the tight puckered ringpiece of a child. These men, being common, decent folk, don't have a say in the political hypocrisy that is Slashdot culture. I am the unknown liberator [hitler.org] .

ROLF LAMO i hate linux FAGGOTS -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

We shouldn't hate them, we should pity them for the misguided fools they are... Fanatical Linux zeal-outs need to be herded into camps for re-education and subsequent rehabilitation into normal heterosexual society. This re-education shall be achieved by forcing them to watch repeats of Baywatch until the very mention of Pamela Anderson [rotten.com] causes them to fill their pants with healthy heterosexual jism [zillabunny.com] .

Actually, that's not at all how scrotal inflation works. I understand it involves injecting sterile saline solution into the scrotum. I've never tried this, but you can read how to do it safely in case you're interested. (Before you moderate this down, ask yourself honestly -- who are the real crazies -- people who do scrotal inflation, or people who pay $1000+ for a game console?) -- double_h [slashdot.org] , Slashdot

Well, it just goes to show that even the holy Linux 'sauce code' is riddled with bugs that need fixing. (The irony of Jon Katz not even being able to inflate his scrotum correctly has not been lost on me.) The Linux pervert elite already acknowledge this, with their queer slogan: 'Given enough arms, all rectums are shallow.' And anyway, the PS2 [xbox.com] sucks major cock and isn't worth the money. Intellivision forever!

dude did u used to post on msnbc's nt bulletin board now that u are doing anti-gay posts u also need to start in with anti-black stuff too c u in church -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

For one thing, whilst Linux is a cavalcade of queer propaganda masquerading as the future of computing, NT [linux.com] is used by people who think nothing better of encasing their genitals in quick setting plaster then going to see a really dirty porno film, enjoying the restriction enforced onto them. Remember, a wasted arousal is a sin in the eyes of the Catholic church [atheism.org] . Clearly, the only god-fearing Christian operating system in existence is CP/M -- The Christian Program Monitor. All computer users should immediately ask their local pastor to install this fine OS onto their systems. It is the only route to salvation.

Secondly, this message is for every man. Computers know no colour. Not only that, but one of the finest websites in the world is maintained by a Black Man [stileproject.com] . Now fuck off you racist donkey felcher.

And don't forget that slashdot was written in Perl, which is just too close to 'Pearl Necklace' for comfort.... oh wait; that's something all you heterosexuals do.... I can't help but wonder how much faster the trolls could do First-Posts on this site if it were redone in PHP... I could hand-type dynamic HTML pages faster than Perl can do them. -- phee [slashdot.org] , Slashdot

Although there is nothing unholy about the fine heterosexual act of ejaculating between a woman's breasts, squirting one's load up towards her neck and chin area, it should be noted that Perl [python.org] (standing for Pansies Entering Rectums Locally) is also close to 'Pearl Monocle,' 'Pearl Nosering,' and the ubiquitous 'Pearl Enema.'

One scary thing about Perl [sun.com] is that it contains hidden homosexual [goatse.fr] messages. Take the following code: LWP::Simple -- It looks innocuous enough, doesn't it? But look at the line closely: There are two colons next to each other! As Larry 'Balls to the' Wall would openly admit in the Perl Documentation, Perl was designed from the ground up to indoctrinate it's programmers into performing unnatural sexual acts -- having two colons so closely together is clearly a reference to the perverse sickening act of 'colon kissing,' whereby two homosexual [goatse.fr] queers spread their buttocks wide, pressing their filthy torn sphincters together. They then share small round objects like marbles or golfballs by passing them from one rectum to another using muscle contraction alone. This is also referred to in programming 'circles' as 'Parameter Passing.'

And PHP [perl.org] stands for Perverted Homosexual Penetration. Didn't you know?

Thank you for your valuable input on this. I am sure you will be never forgotten. BTW: Did I mention that this could be useful in terraforming Mars? Mars rulaa. -- Eimernase [slashdot.org] , Slashdot

Well, I don't know about terraforming Mars, but I do know that homosexual [goatse.fr] Linux Advocates have been probing Uranus for years.

That's inspiring. Keep up the good work, AC. May God in his wisdom grant you the strength to bring the plain honest truth to this community, and make it pure again. Yours, Cerberus. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

*sniff* That brings a tear to my eye. Thank you once more for your kind support. I have taken faith in the knowledge that I am doing the Good Lord [atheism.org] 's work, but it is encouraging to know that I am helping out the common man here.

However, I should be cautious about revealing your name 'Cerberus' on such a filthy den of depravity as Slashdot. It is a well known fact that the 'Kerberos' documentation from Microsoft is a detailed manual describing, in intimate, exacting detail, how to sexually penetrate a variety of unwilling canine animals; be they domesticated, wild, or mythical. Slashdot posters have taken great pleasure in illegally spreading this documentation far and wide, treating it as an 'extension' to the Linux 'Sauce Code,' for the sake of 'interoperability.' (The slang term they use for nonconsensual intercourse -- their favourite kind.)

In fact, sick twisted Linux deviants are known to have LAN parties, (Love of Anal Naughtiness, needless to say.), wherein they entice a stray dog, known as the 'Samba Mount,' into their homes. Up to four of these filth-sodden blasphemers against nature take turns to plunge their erect, throbbing, uncircumcised members, conkers-deep, into the rectum, mouth, and other fleshy orifices of the poor animal. Eventually, the 'Samba Mount' collapses due to 'overload,' and needs to be 'rebooted.' (i.e., kicked out into the street, and left to fend for itself.) Many Linux users boast about their 'uptime' in such situations.

Inspiring stuff! If only all trolls were this quality! -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

If only indeed. You can help our brave cause by moderating this message up as often as possible. I recommend '+1, Underrated,' as that will protect your precious Karma in Metamoderation [slashdot.org] . Only then can we break through the glass ceiling of Homosexual Slashdot Culture. Is it any wonder that the new version of Slashcode has been christened 'Bender'???

If we can get just one of these postings up to at least '+1,' then it will be archived forever! Others will learn of our struggle, and join with us in our battle for freedom!

It's pathetic you've spent so much time writing this. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

I am compelled to document the foulness and carnal depravity [catholic.net] that is Linux, in order that we may prepare ourselves for the great holy war that is to follow. It is my solemn duty to peel back the foreskin of ignorance and apply the wire brush of enlightenment.

As with any great open-source project, you need someone asking this question, so I'll do it. When the hell is version 2.0 going to be ready?!?! -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

I could make an arrogant, childish comment along the lines of 'Every time someone asks for 2.0, I won't release it for another 24 hours,' but the truth of the matter is that I'm quite nervous of releasing a 'number two,' as I can guarantee some filthy shit-slurping Linux pervert would want to suck it straight out of my anus before I've even had chance to wipe.

I desperately want to suck your monolithic kernel, you sexy hunk, you. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

I sincerely hope you're Natalie Portman [archive.org] .

Dude, nothing on slashdot larger than 3 paragraphs is worth reading. Try to distill the message, whatever it was, and maybe I'll read it. As it is, I have to much open source software to write to waste even 10 seconds of precious time. 10 seconds is all its gonna take M$ to whoop Linux's ass. Vigilence is the price of Free (as in libre -- from the fine, frou frou French language) Software. Hack on fellow geeks, and remember: Friday is Bouillabaisse day except for heathens who do not believe that Jesus died for their sins. Those godless, oil drench, bearded sexist clowns can pull grits from their pantaloons (another fine, fine French word) and eat that. Anyway, try to keep your message focused and concise. For concision is the soul of derision. Way. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

What the fuck?

I've read your gay conspiracy post version 1.3.0 and I must say I'm impressed. In particular, I appreciate how you have managed to squeeze in a healthy dose of the latent homosexuality you gay-bashing homos [comp-u-geek.net] tend to be full of. Thank you again. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

Well bugger me!

ooooh honey. how insecure are you!!! wann a little massage from deare bruci. love you -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

Fuck right off!

IMPORTANT: This message needs to be heard (Not HURD [linux.org] , which is an acronym for 'Huge Unclean Rectal Dilator') across the whole community, so it has been released into the Public Domain [icopyright.com] . You know, that licence that we all had before those homoerotic crypto-fascists came out with the GPL [apple.com] (Gay Penetration License) that is no more than an excuse to see who's got the biggest feces-encrusted [rotten.com] cock. I would have put this up on Freshmeat [adultmember.com] , but that name is known to be a euphemism for the tight rump of a young boy.

Come to think of it, the whole concept of 'Source Control' unnerves me, because it sounds a bit like 'Sauce Control,' which is a description of the homosexual [goatse.fr] practice of holding the base of the cock shaft tightly upon the point of ejaculation, thus causing a build up of semenal fluid that is only released upon entry into an incision made into the base of the receiver's scrotum. And 'Open Sauce' is the act of ejaculating into another mans face or perhaps a biscuit to be shared later. Obviously, 'Closed Sauce' is the only Christian thing to do, as evidenced by the fact that it is what Cathedrals are all about.

Contributors: (although not to the eternal game of 'soggy biscuit' that open 'sauce' development has become) Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, phee, Anonymous Coward, mighty jebus, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, double_h, Anonymous Coward, Eimernase, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward. Further contributions are welcome.

Current changes: This version sent to FreeWIPO [slashdot.org] by 'Bring BackATV' as plain text. Reformatted everything, added all links back in (that we could match from the previous version), many new ones (Slashbot bait links). Even more spelling fixed. Who wrote this thing, CmdrTaco himself?

Previous changes: Yet more changes added. Spelling fixed. Feedback added. Explanation of 'distro' system. 'Mount Point' syntax described. More filth regarding `man` and Slashdot. Yet more fucking spelling fixed. 'Fetchmail' uncovered further. More Slashbot baiting. Apache exposed. Distribution licence at foot of document.

ANUX -- A full Linux distribution... Up your ass!

Re:penis (-1, Offtopic)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823372)

i'm all gay and stuff. but not gay enough to use apple.

We're well into the 21st century now, gay isn't an insult anymore.

Re:penis (0, Offtopic)

Captain Splendid (673276) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823832)

This. It upsets me terribly when I'm gaming and the slur of choice seems to still be 'gay' and 'fag'.

I remember using it myself as a kid in the 80s, and it saddens me that we have entire generations of dumb motherfuckers who can't come up with any new insults. Seriously, this is the best the Xbox generation can do?

Pathetic.

First Download? (1)

Chas (5144) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823164)

Nah.

There's still value in solid media.

Re:First Download? (1)

Calos (2281322) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823202)

Likely you'd have to burn it to physical media in order to install it, no?

I guess strictly speaking there are ways around that, but that is the normal practice.

Re:First Download? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36823262)

No you don't burn to disc first. OS X will repartition your main drive and do the install within the running OS.

Re:First Download? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36823284)

Likely you'd have to burn it to physical media in order to install it, no?

I guess strictly speaking there are ways around that, but that is the normal practice.

in other words that's how a bunch of stupid noobs will do it... just as soon as they call tech support to find out "where it went" after they downloaded it (duhh, whereever you put it, jackass).

maybe none of you ever answered a tech support call like that... maybe you have. the idea that the machine only does what you tell it to do is a gigantic WOOSH over the heads of clueless noobs everywhere. corporal punishment would fix that in a hurry.

Re:First Download? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36823292)

No, you can install it directly from the download. As part of the install process, it creates a recovery partition. Then it installs and restarts. If you know what you're doing, you can create a recovery CD from the contents of the download; and in a month or so, they're going to release it on USB stick.

Re:First Download? (1)

frinkster (149158) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823720)

If you know what you're doing, you can create a recovery CD from the contents of the download; and in a month or so, they're going to release it on USB stick.

The download is an installer package. When you are done downloading, you have to launch the installer package to initiate the upgrade. You are also free to copy that installer package to any number of media devices that you own. It's just one file, drag and drop will do the trick.

Re:First Download? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36823212)

So download & burn it yourself

Re:First Download? (0)

jeffmeden (135043) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823240)

Nah.

There's still value in solid media.

The value is about 12 cents a DVD-R nowadays, and heck, if you have a 8 GB or larger USB thumb drive most any laptop treats it like good old fashioned solid media anyway and you can reuse it like a hundred thousand times... Nah, the value to Apple in *not* having "solid media" is the fact that the aforementioned technologies are no longer useful to skirt paying them the $30 "fix whats broken" tax on all the shiny Apple toys out there. And I say that as someone who is fairly fond of OS X.

Re:First Download? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36823402)

Except the USB ports for all my work computers a glued shut out of malware autoplay paranoia...

Re:First Download? (0)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823516)

The value is about 12 cents a DVD-R nowadays

Plus however much your ISP charges you to download the data that will be recorded on the disc. For those who live outside the coverage area of cable and DSL, a 4 GB download costs $48 (estimate based on $60/mo 3G or satellite service with 5 GB/mo transfer cap).

Re:First Download? (-1, Troll)

gumbi west (610122) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823740)

They make a USB version for purchase in the store.

Having used Ubuntu for awhile now I really appreciate the Apple way of doing things. A few complaints about ubuntu:

  • when the version of my four day old local copy of the repository was not correct, the GUI offered no help, it just wouldn't work;
  • the GUI for apt-get doesn't let me refresh the local copy of the repository, forcing me to us the CLI, sigh;
  • there is no "open" command on the Ubuntu CLI (on Apple's this is like a double click, it open the file with the program it is associated with), this is both obvious and easy (you already have the associations if you have a GUI double click);
  • the Ubuntu package manager is crustier than the Mac package manager, i.e. the apt-get for unison is way out of date, the Mac Ports version is newer;
  • after I installed sshd via the apt-get GUI, it just started running and I had no way of controlling it except via the config file. If I was a user who didn't understand the CLI, I would be cooked at this point. The config file is a good place to fine tune, but basic options like on/off should be in the GUI (and I should have to turn it on myself), but not even saying something like, "if you want to control this security nightmare, you need to learn to use the CLI. Just as a heads up, I turned on remote root access by password so you'd better run." The only helpful note was that you should have a good password before you install. If you read slashdot you know users can not be relied on to do that.
  • GUIs for servers are not unified. Apple has put all servers on/off switches and the basic settings they let you modify in the GUI in a single place, this makes managing a computer much easier when you are talking about a laptop you want just a few servers running on for odds and ends uses (obviously, for production server a GUI with less than complete functionality is more annoying than helpful, but I'm talking about the versions for a desktop/laptop here). They did more than that too, like when you start a server, it changes the firewall config to allow the server to accept incoming connections.

Basically, the Ubuntu GUI is half-baked. It would be better if it weren't there. I'll stick with my Apple and happily pay more for a computer that just works and never makes me move from GUI to CLI. If I want to do something that requires the CLI (like using the package manager) then I start and end on the CLI.

Re:First Download? (1)

Trashman (3003) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823272)

Nah.

There's still value in solid media.

And you can you can have Lion on a physical disk if you want, by following these [tuaw.com] Instructions.

Re:First Download? (1)

DJRumpy (1345787) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823706)

Or just wait until August. Apple has already indicated they will release it on USB stick for a higher price ($59 if I recall).

Re:First Download? (1)

larry bagina (561269) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823370)

Apple will sell a USB installer in August for $70 or so.

Re:First Download? (1)

grub (11606) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823456)


Nah.

I VNC'd to home earlier and did the update to Lion on my home iMac. It's there waiting for me...

Why? (4, Funny)

Lunix Nutcase (1092239) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823206)

It's a 4 gig download so you better not be in a hurry.

Yeah it takes a whopping 30 minutes. That's like...forever and stuff.

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36823228)

And for the poor dsl internet neanderthal of canada it's more like a day.

Fuck BELL.

Re:Why? (1)

AnotherShep (599837) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823692)

I'm on Shaw. 4 gigs will take about as long as a timmies run.

Re:Why? (1)

evil_aaronm (671521) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823826)

For those not from the Great White North, or not near it's southern border, "timmies" is slang for Tim Horton's, a chain of donut and coffee stores. Named after a hockey player: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Horton [wikipedia.org]

Not everybody has 18 Mbps (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823288)

Yeah it takes a whopping 30 minutes.

4 GB/dl * 8000 Mbit/GB * 1 dl/30 min * 1 min/60 s = 18 Mbps. Not everybody has access to an affordable 18 Mbps connection at home. Or were you talking about a 10-minute drive to a local Apple authorized retailer, downloading Lion on a 54 Mbps connection (which incidentally requires 802.11n or wired Ethernet because it's past the practical throughput of g), and driving back?

Furthermore, even if you're willing to let a download run overnight, a lot of areas are still subject to single digit GB per month caps. For example, a 4 GB download would use 4/5 (24 days) of a 5 GB/mo plan.

Re:Not everybody has 18 Mbps (-1, Troll)

Lunix Nutcase (1092239) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823310)

Maybe you should stop living in some backwater shithole? I have middle tier cable service and 4 gig downloads are nothing.

Re:Not everybody has 18 Mbps (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36823382)

Maybe you should stop living in some backwater shithole? I have middle tier cable service and 4 gig downloads are nothing.

Because everyone makes their life and lifestyle choices based on DSL speeds.

Re:Not everybody has 18 Mbps (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36823452)

DSL is so 90s.

Re:Not everybody has 18 Mbps (1)

baka_toroi (1194359) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823544)

Retards like Lunix Nutcase probably do

Re:Not everybody has 18 Mbps (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36823460)

Maybe you should stop living in some backwater shithole? I have middle tier cable service and 4 gig downloads are nothing.

Wow. You sir, represent every thing I despise. You think superior of yourself because of what you spend money on and where you live.

Re:Not everybody has 18 Mbps (1)

evil_aaronm (671521) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823854)

Son, the range of things you despise is -way- too narrow. You haven't even touched on New Jersey "drivers".

Re:Not everybody has 18 Mbps (1)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823648)

oh yeah, that guy should move. because you (some pimple faced teenager) TELLS him he should move.

asshat.

choice of internet providers is the LAST thing you control. so many other things trump the decison to 'move to find better net connectivity'.

again, you're probably some asshole teen who types first and then thinks afterwards. STFU and go back to class.

Re:Not everybody has 18 Mbps (1)

SomeKDEUser (1243392) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823796)

Actually [gapminder.org] broadband is a good indicator of whether you in fact live in a backwater shithole.

Which "areas"? (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823428)

I just have simple cable internet and the 4GB download would take about 30 minutes (from past experience with Apple's downloads).

What "areas" have single digit GB caps? That would pretty much be only wireless services. You know what, I probably would not downloaded it over a tethered connection...

Sat and 3G (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823558)

What "areas" have single digit GB caps?

Places with no cable TV provider and which are too far away from the nearest DSLAM for DSL service.

That would pretty much be only wireless services.

Exactly: satellite and 3G.

Re:Sat and 3G (1)

sglewis100 (916818) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823966)

What "areas" have single digit GB caps?

Places with no cable TV provider and which are too far away from the nearest DSLAM for DSL service.

That would pretty much be only wireless services.

Exactly: satellite and 3G.

So between Apple soon offering a USB installer, and any number of places like Starbucks, McDonalds, Barnes and Noble, and a million Mom and Pop places with public WiFi, there's really NO way to get it? Or your office? Or a friend who can download it to a stick and mail it to you? Or the Apple Store itself which has free WiFi? Are there that many people who live near NO place with public WiFi, and have to have the latest Apple software on the first day of release?

Actually, unlimited systems "you own or control" (3, Informative)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823638)

From the Ars review [arstechnica.com] , the license reads:

(i) to download, install, use and run for personal, non-commercial use, one (1) copy of the Apple Software directly on each Apple-branded computer running Mac OS X Snow Leopard or Mac OS X Snow Leopard Server ("Mac Computer") that you own or control;

The installer doesn't check, any system that you "own or control" you have a license for. A company system might be a grey are (you control it but they own it, and also control to some degree) but the installer doesn't check and no-one really cares.

Re:Which "areas"? (1)

Calos (2281322) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823664)

I've seen local cable companies with a bottom tier of 1 GB/month. More expensive service gets you to 50 GB/month, but that's still not a lot, especially for a multi-person residence.

http://help.cableone.net/HSD/Plans/Data%20Plans/FAQ.aspx [cableone.net] and note that their "Elite" data tier requires you to bundle phone, cable TV, and internet. They do have periods where usage does not count towards the cap, but that's still a pain in the ass.

Re:Which "areas"? (1)

Architect_sasyr (938685) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823744)

What "areas" have single digit GB caps?

A lot of low-price packages in regional australia do. Low price here meaning $30/month or so.

Re:Not everybody has 18 Mbps (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36823506)

hahaha GO USA!!! Comcast son.

Re:Not everybody has 18 Mbps (1)

digitallife (805599) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823918)

Took me about an hour on a cable line.
  And that's with a 80g download going at the same time :)

Re:Why? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36823470)

It's a 4 gig download so you better not be in a hurry.

Yeah it takes a whopping 30 minutes. That's like...forever and stuff.

I live in the United States, you insensitive clod!

Re:Why? (1)

BlueToast (1224550) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823566)

Yeah it takes a whopping 7 to 11 minutes at college. That's like...forever and stuff

Re:Why? (2)

Richard_at_work (517087) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823658)

Quick tip people, from the kind folk in #MacOSX on Freenode - after downloading from the Mac App Store, but prior to installing OSX 10.7, take a copy of the app file from /Applications and store it in a safe place because it won't be there after you install.

You will need to do this if you need access to the dmg for backup purposes.

Re:Why? (1)

smash (1351) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823710)

Whilst a good idea - if you lose it you should be able to get it back off the app store from a snow leopard install if it all goes pear shaped.

Re:Why? (2)

DJRumpy (1345787) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823794)

I can confirm this in the GM release, the installer is deleted after a successful reinstall. Make a copy of it, lock the original, and use the copy to install if you have multiple Mac's to put it on.

If you want to burn the installer to a bootable disk, then open the installer .App, right click it to show the pkg contents, expand the "SharedSupport" folder, and burn the InstallESD.dmg image to DVD.

Re:Why? (1)

roothog (635998) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823754)

3 minutes here (college campus).

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36823848)

On my "high speed" download at home, or at the university that would be a whopping 2 days or so, and at home it will monopolize the connection and eat into my bandwidth cap. I'd still much rather walk into the store and pay $30 for a disk.

Shame about those on Leopard (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36823222)

No direct Lion upgrade for you. You have to purchase Snow Leopard first, just for the privilege to go to Lion.

Re:Shame about those on Leopard (2)

dogmatixpsych (786818) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823342)

That's not true. You have to have Snow Leopard to download it (but you can download in an Apple store or get Lion elsewhere). Burn it to DVD or put it on a flash drive and you can install it on any Intel-based Mac, regardless of current OS.

Re:Shame about those on Leopard (3, Insightful)

Calos (2281322) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823684)

That seems rather arbitrary. Why would they do this?

Bye bye Mac Books... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36823244)

I brought my first Macbook, a little over 18 months ago, on a student discount, and it's a perfect machine to get people into the cult of Apple. I'd refuse to have a laptop without a multi-touch trackpad - and outside Apple, they seem to be few and far between.

And now I have to pay £849 for an 11.6" model.

I'm a little sad - even if I'm unlikely to be in a position to buy another macbook.

Re:Bye bye Mac Books... (2)

PeterKraus (1244558) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823332)

Wait wait wait. You're a student, and you are considering buying a new laptop after only 1.5 year? What? My £500 Dell lasted me well during my 4 years at Uni, and I know a lot of people whose laptops are even older than 2007 and still work really well. Either you're a poshboy, or incompetent, or Apple is crap.

Re:Bye bye Mac Books... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36823388)

Did you just compare Dell with Apple? Dell is never as shiny, trendy and hip as Apple. As a student, I want to be part of the herd that goes nuts with shiny. Fuck functionality, fuck price, fuck everything else but apple. What's so hard to understand here>?

Re:Bye bye Mac Books... (0)

MemoryDragon (544441) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823478)

Well after one year your oh so shiny toy is the last years model... got it?
If you buy after shiny you will get i have the newest toy satisfaction only for a handful of months, is that really worth it?
My macbook pro is 2 years old by now, I recently pimped it up with a ssd and 8 gig ram, and I intend to use it as long as it holds.

Re:Bye bye Mac Books... (1)

BlueToast (1224550) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823594)

Foolish clod.

Re:Bye bye Mac Books... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36823404)

"even if I'm unlikely to be in a position to buy another macbook"

No, I'm not looking to buy another laptop. I'm just a little disappointed that, if I were in the position I was 18 months ago, I wouldn't be able to buy one, without spending an extra £200-300.

Re:Bye bye Mac Books... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36823564)

I'd refuse to have a laptop without a multi-touch trackpad

Lucky for you then that almost any laptop released in the past 10 years supports multitouch fine under linux.

Running out of great cats... (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36823248)

Next version will be called OS X Pussy.

Re:Running out of great cats... (0)

larry bagina (561269) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823608)

I'll wait until Shaved Pussy -- no bugs.

Err... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36823268)

Any news on when they're going to release a non-linear editing app to replace FCP 7 in pro workflows? Can I drag and drop Lion from a net connected machine onto a USB drive and install it on a machine that isn't connected to the internet (eg: one I use for editing)?

Apple are still fine with the 3 machine install for home use / application seat installed concurrently on both employees home and employer owned machines?

Re:Err... (1)

dogmatixpsych (786818) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823394)

"Can I drag and drop Lion from a net connected machine onto a USB drive and install it on a machine that isn't connected to the internet (eg: one I use for editing)?"

Yes.

"Apple are still fine with the 3 machine install for home use / application seat installed concurrently on both employees home and employer owned machines?"

You can install Lion on as many computers as you want. If you do it via the Mac App Store, I believe you're limited to 10 computers (you'd have to sign in with one account). If you install from flash drive or DVD, there is no limit on how many computers you can install it on (you'd just be skirting/disregarding the EULA if you did more than 10).

Yes (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823568)

Can I drag and drop Lion from a net connected machine onto a USB drive and install it on a machine that isn't connected to the internet (eg: one I use for editing)?

Yes, follow instructions elsewhere for using the installer to create a bootable USB install device.

Apple are still fine with the 3 machine install for home use / application seat installed concurrently on both employees home and employer owned machines?

Up to five systems, basically tied to the AppleID you used to download Lion (though honestly I'm not sure it checks).

Download and burn (1)

dogmatixpsych (786818) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823286)

The great thing is that you can download it, put it on a flash drive or burn it to a DVD and install it on all your computers. Apple has its faults but essentially giving Lion away is a nice gesture (Apple's profit margins are certainly high enough to allow Apple to do this). The thing I'm looking forward to is seeing if Lion speeds up my computer; Macs usually run faster after upgrading OS X.

Re:Download and burn (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36823396)

Apple removed all license keys and whatnot from all their software awhile ago. My guess is because they don't actually care about how much they make on software anymore -- it's all about the hardware.

Re:Download and burn (0)

E IS mC(Square) (721736) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823440)

The great thing is that you can download it, put it on a flash drive or burn it to a DVD and install it on all your computers

Really!!1!! You can do all that now???? That's revolutionary and changes everything. Whoever said Apple does not invent, take that!

Re:Download and burn (1)

dogmatixpsych (786818) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823614)

There's no need from sarcasm. I was just commenting in general to the people who are not aware that you can do that with Lion. There are a lot of people who do not know that (in part because Apple doesn't explicitly state it).

Re:Download and burn (1)

Michael.LTN (1321987) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823666)

I had to buy Snow Leopard before I could download it since Leopard doesn't support the Mac App store. $30 isn't a big deal for an OS, it's a shame I had to spend $30 on an OS I've used for less than a month for the privilege of downloading the next OS for another $30 that I would otherwise be unable to get. Is it nice that you can burn it after you download it so you can install it without hassle on other machines? It's convenient, but I wouldn't call it nice. Nice would have been selling the OS outside of the App Store.

Re:Download and burn (2)

DogDude (805747) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823746)

Apple: Bringing vendor lock-in to new levels!

Re:Download and burn (1)

Chaos Incarnate (772793) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823838)

They'll be selling Lion on USB for $70 in a month or so, so you're still $10 ahead this way.

Re:Download and burn (1)

gumbi west (610122) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823890)

You can buy it in a store, on a USB drive, for $40 more.

Re:Download and burn (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36823672)

The thing I'm looking forward to is seeing if Lion speeds up my computer; Macs usually run faster after upgrading OS X.

Oh, if that is the case, I shall try installing this on [insert name of old Intel-based Mac computer here].

Maybe include some details? (4, Informative)

twocows (1216842) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823312)

"But if you're the sort of person who is going to install it today, then you already know what they are!"
I'm not the sort of person who is going to install it today and I would like some actual details in the summary instead of links to a marketing page and a blog post about something unrelated. I do try to keep up to date even with things I have no intention of purchasing; I work in an industry where it is advantageous to do such.

For those who aren't able to psychicly deduce the details about something that just came out, here's the list of new features [apple.com] .

Walled Garden (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36823328)

blah blah Apple blah blah blah Android blah blah blah slashdot.

Probably a good time (1)

Neil_Brown (1568845) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823346)

to pick up an only-slightly-used MacBook Air or Mac Mini on eBay, as some inevitably rush to upgrade...

Updated Mini's as well (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36823376)

Which is a bummer, because they removed the optical disk drive from all Mini models. It's a bummer; my uncle is looking to get a new machine, and was looking at a mac mini. Now it's off of his list, because much of his massive media (movies, music, etc.) collection is on DVD or CD, and purchasing an external ODD for any non-portable machine is just silly.

Re:Updated Mini's as well (2)

smash (1351) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823466)

to be fair, i've used the optical drive in my mini (2007) about 3 times. and one of those times was upgrading to snow leopard.

For the amount of use it doesn't get, I think its a smart move - considering in the AU market they've dropped the price by $200 in compensation. If you need an optical drive, a USB one will work for you to convert your media, or just play that using your existing player.

Ports on the back of a TV (2)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823618)

i've used the optical drive in my mini (2007) about 3 times.

Other people's experience differs. They use the Mac mini as a home theater PC and use the optical drive to play DVD Video discs.

If you need an optical drive, a USB one will work for you to convert your media, or just play that using your existing player.

Somebody with a Mac mini, a cable or satellite box for sports, and a Wii console already connected to the TV might not have another available port on the back of the TV for an upscaling DVD player.

Re:Ports on the back of a TV (1)

smash (1351) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823738)

True of course, but I suspect that my experience is representative of many. The focus points of the mini are small size and low price. Given the low usage and space consumption of the optical drive and the move to network based media, its a prime candidate for removal. Which is why it went.

the mini is about small size. HDD + SDD is BTO (1)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823514)

the mini is about small size. HDD + SDD is BTO with the new mini and it still has Firewire, HDMI, USB + NOW with TB and a real video card in the $800 system.

Re:Updated Mini's as well (1)

MemoryDragon (544441) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823528)

The external AIR DVD drive still will work, I guess.

Re:Updated Mini's as well (1)

smash (1351) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823812)

Any USB optical drive should work.

Re:Updated Mini's as well (1)

dogmatixpsych (786818) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823548)

A Mac Mini isn't portable?

If an optical drive is so essential then either not buy the Mac Mini or purchase a external DVD drive. I've seen portable 2.5" ones for under $30 recently. Apple was the first major computer maker to do away with floppy drives (and now most people don't miss them) and add USB. I think moving away from any moving parts is a great trend that should increase reliability overall. We're moving beyond physical media. It can hurt some people in the transition period but we'll get through it.

How can a DVD drive be 2.5"? (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823718)

If an optical drive is so essential then either not buy the Mac Mini or purchase a external DVD drive.

Then I'll include the price of an external DVD drive whenever I quote the price of a Mac mini.

I've seen portable 2.5" ones for under $30 recently.

How can a DVD drive be 2.5" and still enclose the spinning disc? The disc is bigger than that. Can you quote a URL of what you're talking about? Google portable 2.5" dvd drive doesn't return anything relevant on the first page.

We're moving beyond physical media. It can hurt some people in the transition period

For example, people who live in areas with no cable or DSL rely on mailing DVDs around to send anything bigger than half the typical monthly transfer cap of 5 GB on a satellite or 3G plan, or to send video to someone with no home theater PC.

Re:How can a DVD drive be 2.5"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36823858)

When you order a Mac Mini from the online store you can get a external "super drive" included for a whopping $79 extra but since you seem to be some kind of Luddite hillbilly ordering online at the Apple store is probably too futuristic for you...

Hurry ? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36823426)

Not in a Hurry ? Downloaded it here at home in about 5 minutes.

120/10 cable

Apple certainly has its content distribution in order.

app store will slow to a crawl (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36823694)

I made the mistake of downloading X-Code the day FCP X was release and it took over 8 hours to download 4 gigs from the app store. I have a fiber, the problem wasn't on my end, Apple just doesn't have enough bandwidth for the peaks.

about time for the mini to get a REAL VIDEO CARD! (2)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823438)

about time for the mini to get a REAL VIDEO CARD!

http://www.apple.com/macmini/features.html#graphics [apple.com]

only one TB port but that ok with HDMI and a HD 6630M in the $800 system.

But why not have a 7200 RPM hdd? the Server comes with dual 500GB 7200 disks? why just have 1 500 7200 HDD in the base systems?

and only 2GB in the $600 system? and $100.00 more to get 4 GB? better off paying $200 more to get a 4GB ram faster CPU and video card with it's own ram.

$150 to go from 500GB to 750GB? You can get a 3TB HDD for $150.

Re:about time for the mini to get a REAL VIDEO CAR (4, Funny)

AccUser (191555) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823542)

too. many. numbers.

In other news... Physical Media and Thunderbolt (2)

itsdapead (734413) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823504)

(A) For the people moaning about no physical media, they have also announced [apple.com] that there will be a physical version available on a USB thumb drive next month (gives them time for the first patches!) albeit for a considerable premium ($70 vs. $30 for download).

(B) Also interesting is the new 27" Thunderbolt Display [apple.com] which includes webcam, microphone, a sound system, gigabit Ethernet, Firewire 800 and a thunderbolt daisy-chain port for additional peripherals and monitors - all via a single thunderbolt connection to a Mac (plus a magsafe power output to charge your laptop).

Its still "reassuringly expensive", and only really makes sense as a "if you need to ask the price..." Macbook Pro companion, but it could represent the first example of the sort of things that Thunderbolt can do that USB3 can't.

(Yeah, the USB ports are still only USB2, but Mac users are more likely to have an investment in FW800 while they wait for reasonably-priced Thunderbolt drives).

And the price of the monitor is... (1)

jeffb (2.718) (1189693) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823898)

Its still "reassuringly expensive", and only really makes sense as a "if you need to ask the price..." Macbook Pro companion, but it could represent the first example of the sort of things that Thunderbolt can do that USB3 can't.

It costs $999, which, based on a quick Google price check, is actually toward the low end for this size. There aren't that many out there; Dell's run $975 and up, and NEC's start at $1200. I don't know about DoubleSight; they claim to start just over $800, but I didn't find any reviews on the first pass.

A new Apple product with a competitive price? That annoying noise you hear is the sound of expectations being violated.

NOT download and burn (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36823574)

Apple is phasing out disc drives, everything is going to be distributed over the net/cloud in the future.

Just firing up my... (1)

ack_call (870944) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823612)

... US Robotics Sportster Voice 56K modem now.

Re:Just firing up my... (1)

gumbi west (610122) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823930)

So you posted this over the 14K connection then?

white? (1)

datapharmer (1099455) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823654)

They also updated the Air lineup, dropping the old white MacBooks entirely.

There was a white macbook air?

Re:white? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36823726)

No, there was a white MacBook. You know, the plain old MacBook. Apparently they've now been discontinued.

Re:white? (1)

SilverJets (131916) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823774)

They also updated the Air lineup, dropping the old white MacBooks entirely.

There was a white macbook air?

No. They dropped the lower end of the Macbook line (the white ones). Now it is just the air and the pro.

Re:white? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36823846)

While I like my 2010 MacBook, it doesn't make sense for Apple to keep the line. The price point is nearly the same as the low end Pro and the low end Air, the specs are somewhere between them. If you want more portability go with the Air, if you want more power go with the Pro, a third line the pretty much duplicates the Air and Pro lines low end models doesn't make sense.

Need TRIM support for non-Apple SSDs (2)

DigiShaman (671371) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823660)

Many months ago, I found a utility that enabled TRIM in Snow Leopard for my Intel SSD. At the time, I was running 10.6.7. Once 10.6.8 update got installed, Apple overwrote the settings so that TRIM got disabled again. I had to re-enable it with the same utility. It's still enabled btw.

I'm going to guess that Apple from a support policy, not technical, will refuse to enable TRIM for all non-Apple branded SSD drives. Perhaps they don't want to be blamed from loss of data and corruption, so they take the side of caution with hardware they don't directly control. So that would be my guess anyways. Can anyone confirm is this is still the case with Lion? If so, will Groth's utility still work?

BTW, here is the direct link to the utility and developer in question. http://www.groths.org/?page_id=322 [groths.org]

debian (1)

macshit (157376) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823914)

So... how well do they (the air) run debian?

Mac Minis lose their DVD drives! (1)

Shivetya (243324) | more than 3 years ago | (#36823920)

Two major changes on the Mini front, available discreet graphics (at a cost) and no Superdrive.

If you want to use a DVD you have to buy an external drive now or map to a compatible system. Not a great change in my book and a backhand way of saving money on their side.

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