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Windows XP In a Browser

timothy posted more than 3 years ago | from the where-it-belongs dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "JPC — the pure java PC emulator — has now been upgraded to JPC2, and can run WindowsXP inside the Java Applet sandbox."

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Wow, that sounds painful (5, Funny)

jandrese (485) | more than 3 years ago | (#36836630)

I assume this is for those times where you want your Core i7 machine to run like a 486?

Re:Wow, that sounds painful (3, Interesting)

JoeDuncan (874519) | more than 3 years ago | (#36836656)

It'll come in handy to run those old DOS games that aren't properly clocked and run *way* too fast on modern machines....

Re:Wow, that sounds painful (3, Insightful)

jawtheshark (198669) | more than 3 years ago | (#36836692)

That's /really/ old DOS games (Think Alley Cat [wikipedia.org] ), and DoxBox handles those situation just fine. The later Win9x games (not runninig under DOS or the DOS4GW extender) were already correctly time. Well, I haven't ever encountered one that wasn't.

Re:Wow, that sounds painful (2)

Hatta (162192) | more than 3 years ago | (#36836942)

Even games as recent as Wing Commander II (1991) relied on clock cycles for timing.

Re:Wow, that sounds painful (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36837022)

You do realize that 1991 was 20 years ago, right? I don't know what your definition of recent is, but it clearly differs from mine.

Re:Wow, that sounds painful (1)

cervesaebraciator (2352888) | more than 3 years ago | (#36837480)

Did that guy just call me old?

Re:Wow, that sounds painful (1)

Swimming_Code (1499155) | more than 3 years ago | (#36837148)

Unreal Tournament (the original, circa 1997(?)) has an issue with speed stepping processors. It relies on the clock speed at startup of the game for timing.

Re:Wow, that sounds painful (1)

slimjim8094 (941042) | more than 3 years ago | (#36837216)

GTA Vice City on PC uses the frame rate for timing and that came out in 2003. If you turn off frame limiting, some really strange things break, like cars that won't reverse, or unwinnable races. Really frustrating because it otherwise works fine, and I wasn't sure it wasn't my fault.

Re:Wow, that sounds painful (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36837220)

OMG! gettimeofday is so expensive. Every cycle count, let use a lame asm clock speed routine instead!

Re:Wow, that sounds painful (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36837300)

Unreal tourment is from 1999 and use ms-dos age timing code. In 1996, Quake was using gettimeofday. This is why i always prefered Quake over all the quake-clone.

Re:Wow, that sounds painful (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36837518)

Quake was using gettimeofday. This is why i always prefered Quake over all the quake-clone.

Man, you must be really fun at parties.

Re:Wow, that sounds painful (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36837226)

Wing Commander (1 and 2) had a key combination (I believe alt + NUM+) which would increase the frame duration making it possible to play on newer hardware.

Re:Wow, that sounds painful (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36837476)

There are way more recent examples of clock-cycle dependent games. The original Quake2 engine version of SIN is one, and so is Daikatana. They act really weird on fast computers.

Re:Wow, that sounds painful (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36837246)

Believe it or not, but Alley Cat has proper timing routines and don't rely on clock cycles for timing. It runs fine on whatever CPU you have. Only badly programmed code relies on software loops and clock cycles for timing.

Re:Wow, that sounds painful (1)

jawtheshark (198669) | more than 3 years ago | (#36837308)

Really? Damnit, that means it was meant to be played in that insane pace...

Re:Wow, that sounds painful (1)

Garridan (597129) | more than 3 years ago | (#36837306)

Who are you calling really old? Death Track is still the best racing game ever made.

Re:Wow, that sounds painful (1)

jawtheshark (198669) | more than 3 years ago | (#36837334)

Probably myself, as I have played Alley Cat (and have fond memories of it)... I don't know Death Track though...

Re:Wow, that sounds painful (1)

Conspiracy_Of_Doves (236787) | more than 3 years ago | (#36837360)

What do you mean? Alley Cat was one of the few DOS games I remember that didn't increase in speed as the processor speed went up.

Re:Wow, that sounds painful (1)

Monkey-Man2000 (603495) | more than 3 years ago | (#36836706)

It'll come in handy to run those old DOS games that aren't properly clocked and run *way* too fast on modern machines....

Or you could just use DOSBox [dosbox.com] for that situation.

Re:Wow, that sounds painful (1)

zget (2395308) | more than 3 years ago | (#36836782)

However, the point is somewhat valid. Vista/Win7 driver and security model changed so much that there are now lots of games that just don't work on them. Rollercoaster Tycoon 2 is a great example of that. It's even kind of painful to get to run under virtual machine, but at least possible. Kind of sad, because it's an awesome game.

Re:Wow, that sounds painful (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36837248)

now lots of games that just don't work on them

Out of the 300+ games I own I have had 2 that did not work in win7. (small aside, why she wants 300 games installed all the same time? I have no FREEKING idea why. I usually keep 1 or 2. Its best not to ask.) Most even run decently in a protected user account. I have 2 normal games and 1 java game that insists running as admin user.

Now under virtualization is a WHOLE different ball of wax. If it uses any sort of hw 3d acceleration. It runs the gamut from works good to crashing the whole vm.

BTW installing that many CD's takes about 3 days.

Now the games I have are probably not a good sample size but it shows your 'lots of games' comment does not hold much water. Have to give RCT2 a try been a few years since I played it. But if I remember correctly it did install properly in vista. So I may have a slightly different version than you?

Also I have had a lot of luck installing it in a VM then moving it to win7. Snapshoting things really makes it easy to undo what a game installer does and lets you compare quickly what to change in the filesystem and in the registry.

Also when installing with win7 make sure you 'run as administrator' or it is a 50/50 shot if it will work at all. Some games are 32 bit yet have 16 bit installers. Those have been a real pain with 64bit win7. You pretty much have to do the VM thing or have an old box laying around.

Now if I could just get after dark to work I would be happy. But sadly it used the win98 model of vxd's.

Re:Wow, that sounds painful (2)

ByOhTek (1181381) | more than 3 years ago | (#36836696)

Since when did 486s use NEARLY that much energy?

That's nothing 486-like at all!

Re:Wow, that sounds painful (2, Funny)

sharkey (16670) | more than 3 years ago | (#36837046)

It's STILL faster than Vista, though.

Re:Wow, that sounds painful (1)

interkin3tic (1469267) | more than 3 years ago | (#36837170)

I assume this is for those times where you want your Core i7 machine to run like a 486?

No, it's for when you want to run your core i3 like your roomate's PC in college. You know that roomate. The one who never met a popup he didn't like. The one who thought "internet browser" was the street word for "internet explorer." The one who somehow found a way to stop those pesky updates. The one who thought antivirus software was a condom. The one who from 1 pm to 3am browsed porn in a 3 inch tall window, the only real estate on his screen not taken up by various search helper bars.

Re:Wow, that sounds painful (1)

AngryDeuce (2205124) | more than 3 years ago | (#36837202)

Oh, that guy? Fuck that guy. He still owes me $50 bucks in cab fair...

Re:Wow, that sounds painful (2)

reeno49 (1558221) | more than 3 years ago | (#36837230)

I thought we settled that with me promising to switch to Netscape.

I knew you'd hold it over my head...

Re:Wow, that sounds painful (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36837214)

My college roommate had never heard of a "browser". Neither had I.
Get off my lawn.

Re:Wow, that sounds painful (1)

ChaoticCoyote (195677) | more than 3 years ago | (#36837372)

Yeah, that's pretty much my thinking -- why would anyone want to do this, outside of very specialized circumstances?

I used virtual machines, of course -- for example, I keep a Fedora 15 install on my Window machines via Virtal Box, and I do run the Win XP that comes with Win 7 Pro. But those are simply conveniences, with only one layer of abstraction, and even with only that, both run highly inefficiently and fail to fully use the hardware I paid for.

I don't understand why people would buy high-powered equipment and then run something that cripples it. What's the advantage or purpose of running Win XP in a browser? I can't think or a single one.

Licensing issue? (4, Interesting)

Xocet_00 (635069) | more than 3 years ago | (#36836632)

This has to violate the license terms of XP.

Re:Licensing issue? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36836652)

And this is why IP is useless. If i purchase software, I should be able to use it on any device I can get it to run on.

Re:Licensing issue? (4, Informative)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#36836862)

You don't purchase software. You purchase a software license. And a copy of the licensed software. You can sell the copy, but with it goes the license. This is an argument that was resolved in the licensor's favor half a century ago.

Re:Licensing issue? (1)

gfxguy (98788) | more than 3 years ago | (#36836900)

I don't get it... I have a handful of XP discs that I legally bought... my computer is dual boot, if instead I used one of those discs to install XP as some virtual instance, what's the problem?

Re:Licensing issue? (1)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#36836994)

If the license says you can't, then it's a legal issue. Physically it's clearly no problem at all.

Re:Licensing issue? (1)

PopeRatzo (965947) | more than 3 years ago | (#36837104)

If the license says you can't, then it's a legal issue.

It's only a legal issue to the extent that it's enforced.

Since it won't be enforced, it's no issue at all. It's certainly not a moral issue.

Re:Licensing issue? (1)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#36837224)

It's only a legal issue to the extent that it's enforced.

That's an ethical issue. It's always a legal issue.

Re:Licensing issue? (1)

jthill (303417) | more than 3 years ago | (#36837324)

As you say, there's a difference between license and ownership. They've licensed one copy of the software. For software sold at stores, where you hand over your money and they give you the box or the download, they don't own the purchaser. Specific terms beyond the universally-understood ~this is licensed for use on one system at a time~ (or say 5 or whatever for stuff sold as a "family pack") are in contract territory, attempting to impose terms after they have your money is pure self-entitled grabbery.

Re:Licensing issue? (4, Informative)

rbrausse (1319883) | more than 3 years ago | (#36836702)

no, according to the EULA [microsoft.com] you are allowed to:

You may install, use, access, display and run one copy of the Product on a single computer, such as a workstation, terminal or other device (“Workstation Computer”).

I don't see any rationale why a virtualized environment isn't accepted as a computer - but you need for every instance a own XP license.

If I remember correctly the EULA of Windows Vista (excluding Ultimate) forbade virtualization.

Re:Licensing issue? (1)

Jeng (926980) | more than 3 years ago | (#36836948)

Didn't MS for a while claim that if you replaced your motherboard you needed a new license?

Or was that just a myth?

Re:Licensing issue? (2)

Mister Whirly (964219) | more than 3 years ago | (#36837024)

MS never made such a "claim". The issue was with Windows validation - if you changed enough minor components, or a major component in your system, Windows would interpret that as being installed to another system. It happened to me once, and a simple 5 minute call to MS tech support cleared it right up. If anyone bought another license in this situation, they really should have called MS first.

Re:Licensing issue? (1)

wootest (694923) | more than 3 years ago | (#36837026)

If you change enough of your hardware, including motherboard, you need to reactivate Windows.

There have also been weird licensing terms for a number of products (Oracle and certainly Windows Server versions) that don't make much sense or skyrocket when you combine the concepts of actual socketed CPUs vs CPU cores vs virtualized CPUs.

Re:Licensing issue? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36837054)

OEM versions (as opposed to retail box versions) were tied to a specific computer. Bought an HP desktop with XP in 2001, then built a new machine yourself in 2008? You can't move the license. Microsoft needed something to tie the license to, as they didn't want installing a new hard drive or mouse to kill the license. They settled on the motherboard as being "the computer" for purposes of licensing. IIRC, there was still an exception for failed motherboards.

Re:Licensing issue? (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 3 years ago | (#36837082)

But you can install on a VM on that computer, so long as it is not also installed as the OS. Since it is only installed once and installed on the same hardware.

Or has this changed?

Re:Licensing issue? (3, Insightful)

pavon (30274) | more than 3 years ago | (#36837066)

To add to the above posters, the only instance in which Microsoft might choose to not authenticate your computer when this occurred would be if you had OEM Windows XP license, because you are not allowed to install that on any other computer than the one you bought it on. In practice they were pretty lenient, but the strict terms of the XP license did cause me to avoid it in favor of Win2k.

Re:Licensing issue? (1)

LordLimecat (1103839) | more than 3 years ago | (#36837110)

Thats only for OEM licenses.

Re:Licensing issue? (1)

just_another_sean (919159) | more than 3 years ago | (#36837192)

Yes, exactly. An OEM license is for the machine it was installed on and that machine only. So the only way to transfer the license is if you are giving/selling the whole PC to someone else.

What I'm not sure of is the rules on upgrading components. I know switching out the MB or even just the network card* can cause Windows to want to re-activate. Nor sure if enough changes to the original machine invalidate the OEM license.

* I once had Windows force me to re-activate because I rebooted with the network card disabled. Total PITA as it wanted me to activate before I logged in but couldn't do so over the internet because the network card was disabled. A call to MS solved the issue but it still sucked.

Re:Licensing issue? (1)

AngryDeuce (2205124) | more than 3 years ago | (#36837280)

There was a limited number of hardware changes you could make before the online activation would not work and necessitate a call to Customer Service to get an activation code manually. All this really entailed was a 10 minute phone call to a toll free number where you spoke to an Indian guy named either George or Bob and you were good to go. I had to do it many times over the years as I had a 2001-era XP disc that I used across about a dozen builds until I finally got Windows 7 about 2 years ago.

Updates sure were a bitch, though. Downloading SP1, 2 and 3 took ages even on my 10 meg connection...

Re:Licensing issue? (2)

Coren22 (1625475) | more than 3 years ago | (#36837530)

All this really entailed was a 10 minute phone call to a toll free number where you spoke to an Indian guy named either George or Bob(...)

It wasn't Sue?

Re:Licensing issue? (2)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#36836954)

Doesn't say "instance." Says "copy." It'd be hard to have 500 tasks running if you could only have one instance of the task object, e.g.

My computer is one box full of computer parts, regardless of how it gets configured by software.

So if I create 500 VMs on one computer and run 500 instances of the Windows kernel, I'm not violating my license, as long as the instances were started from the same copy of the software on the HD.

Unless the license explicitly says I can't.

Re:Licensing issue? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36836968)

And if I remember correctly, the collective response of the world was "Why the fuck would you want to run Vista anyways?"

Re:Licensing issue? (1)

SteveFoerster (136027) | more than 3 years ago | (#36836778)

And if so, well, that's tragic. Really, terribly, depressingly tragic. Or something.

Re:Licensing issue? (1)

interkin3tic (1469267) | more than 3 years ago | (#36837252)

Is it safe to assume that MS's lawyers would try to clamp down on this? On the one hand, it doesn't seem like this will be causing MS to lose revenue. Maybe there's a use I'm not thinking of here, but this seems more like a novelty thing than a way to get a valuable product for cheap, I can't see many people buying a computer free of windows, installing linux, and installing this just to run an obsolete OS for free.

On the other hand, all companies these days seem to think that someone using one of their products without giving them a cut = war crime and billions of dollars in losses.

Re:Licensing issue? (1)

SkyDude (919251) | more than 3 years ago | (#36837352)

This has to violate the license terms of XP.

XP violates me. Thanks MS.

Why? Support soon to cease. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36836642)

Support will cease from Microsoft in April of 2014. What's the point of running a 10+ year old OS?

Re:Why? Support soon to cease. (1)

nschubach (922175) | more than 3 years ago | (#36836670)

I run a 20 year old OS... well, a 20 year old kernel. ;)

I imagine it's like mountain climbing: "Because it's there."

Re:Why? Support soon to cease. (1)

kevinmenzel (1403457) | more than 3 years ago | (#36836794)

And the NT kernel is old too. But XP is built around a particularly old release of that kernel, and there have been two releases since then.

Re:Why? Support soon to cease. (2, Insightful)

Pentium100 (1240090) | more than 3 years ago | (#36836894)

New does not mean better. New especially does not mean that the old device/version ceases to work.
My car is 29 years old, I record TV shows on a 15 year old VCR, I also have 40+ year old audio devices (a tape recorder and a radio). They all work quite well despite the fact that there are newer versions of these devices out.

Same thing with an OS. why should I spend money on new hardware and software when my current PC is good enough? Just because the new software is "new"? No.

Re:Why? Support soon to cease. (1)

Jeremi (14640) | more than 3 years ago | (#36836972)

My car is 29 years old, I record TV shows on a 15 year old VCR, I also have 40+ year old audio devices (a tape recorder and a radio). They all work quite well despite the fact that there are newer versions of these devices out.

Of course, none of the examples you mention are involved in an arms race against hackers and script kiddies who are constantly looking for new ways to remotely reprogram them to steal your credit card info, etc. Therefore, any flaws in those devices that don't bother you personally can be safely overlooked.

If your computer is in any way connected to the outside world, on the other hand, it's a good idea to be running recent software so that known security holes will (hopefully) be patched.

Re:Why? Support soon to cease. (1)

The123king (2395060) | more than 3 years ago | (#36837130)

I run BeOS. I'm pretty sure most hackers and script kiddies are not going to bother trying to hack my 10 year old OS :)

Re:Why? Support soon to cease. (1)

Pentium100 (1240090) | more than 3 years ago | (#36837166)

It can be protected by other means. Firewall will stop unwanted incoming connection (so Windows XP no SP won't get pwned by Blaster), noscript can help with malicious scripts. AV will help with downloaded files. And so on.

Re:Why? Support soon to cease. (1)

grub (11606) | more than 3 years ago | (#36837004)


My car is 29 years old, I record TV shows on a 15 year old VCR, I also have 40+ year old audio devices (a tape recorder and a radio).

And your lawnmower is how many years old?
/rimshot

Re:Why? Support soon to cease. (1)

just_another_sean (919159) | more than 3 years ago | (#36837274)

And your lawnmower is how many years old?

My guess is - brand spanking new!

I don't think it's nostalgia either (1)

improfane (855034) | more than 3 years ago | (#36837008)

I've been brought up in the middle of this technology era and I honestly think that old stuff is better.

It's usually designed to last, it's not designed to break after warranty. We honestly don't have that any more. Short term profit has taken hold of every industry so that quality barely exists anymore. Of course it wouldn't surprise me if the companies that make things that last are not doing so well, as they wouldn't have a steady stream of customers.

I don't need or want High Definition and huge televisions. The reason you need HD is because you have a large TV) I've seen some large televisions and HD and thought it looked worse than it did on a small television.

This is why I'm going to be the only geek with a small television. I don't want it to be the focal point of my living room or my life. That's what whiskey on the bookshelf is for. With my rocking chair and bubble pipe.

I don't think it's nostalgia that old is better. I think it's genuinely is. Maybe not with Windows XP though.

Re:I don't think it's nostalgia either (0)

Mister Whirly (964219) | more than 3 years ago | (#36837078)

Please tell me you take a horse and buggy to work as well. These new fangled "automobiles" are a passing fad that will fade away soon. And television? what do you need that for? My old Philco FM radio does just fine. And if I don't like what is on the radio, I have a library of wax cylinders to play on my phonograph.

Re:I don't think it's nostalgia either (1)

improfane (855034) | more than 3 years ago | (#36837116)

I cycle to work on a penny farthing with a top hat adorning my head.

Re:I don't think it's nostalgia either (1)

Mister Whirly (964219) | more than 3 years ago | (#36837184)

Excellent. Be sure to keep your handlebar mustache properly waxed.

Re:I don't think it's nostalgia either (1)

mlts (1038732) | more than 3 years ago | (#36837422)

A better analogy is to compare a Craftsman tool made 15-20 years ago to one made now. Even if the recently made one has the lifetime warranty, it just is not as well made as the older one. Pretty much most new hand tools are made to be "just good enough", unless you spend the cash for MAC or Snap-On.

Another example is an old FM radio for instance that was made in the 60s. The back has the complete circuit schematic on it, even though transistors were the mainstay back then. The materials, fit, finish, and craftsmanship was just outstanding.

Even recently, a friend of mine picked up an old AT tower case. It was on wheels (pretty much a two man lift), had space for plenty of fans, and it actually had serious locks on it. Not the little padlock loops, or the mini Ace locks either -- the case actually had multiple Medeco keyswitches and cam locks. One keyswitch allowed/disabled the reset button. Another would lock the case. Still another would lock the keyboard/mouse if the motherboard supported it. Finally key #4 would lock the panel that protects the floppy/CD-ROM drives. The case had not just a flimsy loop, but a fairly thick steel piece to attach a padlock and security chain.

You find that even though something made in the 60s and 70s is likely obsolete, it usually has a better fit and finish than something made these days.

Re:I don't think it's nostalgia either (1)

Pentium100 (1240090) | more than 3 years ago | (#36837128)

Old devices are generally simpler and easier to fix if something goes bad. Electrolytic capacitors are one example, but they are quite easy to replace and are cheap. The mechanical parts are designed with long therm in mind, even on a tape deck where output amplifier tube is used as bias oscillator when recording (thus saving a tube) the tape transport is quite well made and thick metal was used. Tubes go bad too, but they are easy to replace.

As for HDTV. I'll try to get a CRT HDTV, they were expensive in their time, so should be better built than modern stuff. If I can't get one - I'll get a SD CRT TV.

Re:Why? Support soon to cease. (1)

dirtyhippie (259852) | more than 3 years ago | (#36837150)

Okay, I'll bite. Which 20 year old unpatched kernel are you running? Or are you just talking about linux?

Re:Why? Support soon to cease. (1)

nschubach (922175) | more than 3 years ago | (#36837342)

unpatched

If that's the requirement, then XP wouldn't be considered 10 years old either. We can't just up and change requirements to suit our needs here. It's disingenuous to call XP 10 years old if there was just a patch released for it and not consider Linux 20 years old because it was patched recently.

Re:Why? Support soon to cease. (1)

Medevilae (1456015) | more than 3 years ago | (#36836674)

Showing their emulator can handle it...

Re:Why? Support soon to cease. (2)

Jeng (926980) | more than 3 years ago | (#36836698)

Exactly what kind of support do you expect to get when you are running Windows XP in a browser window. Do you really expect MS to provide you support for such a non-standard instillation?

Re:Why? Support soon to cease. (1)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#36836974)

"Support" for Microsoft products currently comprises making tedious searches in their "knowledge" base and reading their circular answers to questions only peripherally related to the problem you're actually having.

Re:Why? Support soon to cease. (1)

jawtheshark (198669) | more than 3 years ago | (#36836744)

I have a (few) licenses, it works and I don't want to spend money for nothing? I still have to see what Windows 7 brings to the table that interests me. Apart from having moved every possible setting under the sun, confusing users of a stable well known interface.... Yes, 64-bit... That would be the only point. However, for my day to day Internet antics a Atom D525 suffices with 2GB RAM. (It runs Ubuntu, but if I wanted Windows, I really should opt for XP). Again. 64-bit? Who cares. Computer performance is "there" for most users, regardless of what they do. Games, scientific computing and CAD are excluded of that.

Re:Why? Support soon to cease. (1)

kakyoin01 (2040114) | more than 3 years ago | (#36836770)

"Dropping XP support" is just a clever term for Microsoft's "final XP feature".

how long befor they get a copyright notice and (1)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | more than 3 years ago | (#36836644)

Need to pull the windows OS image files?

NSFW? (3, Interesting)

pz (113803) | more than 3 years ago | (#36836734)

When I try to visit the linked page, I get ---


This Page Cannot Be Displayed

Based on your corporate access policies, this web site ( http://jpc2.com/ [jpc2.com] ) has been blocked because it has been determined by Web Reputation Filters to be a security threat to your computer or the corporate network. This web site has been associated with malware/spyware.

Threat Type: Othermalware
Threat Reason: Hosted on IP controlled by a group or individual known to be malicious.

If you have questions, please contact your corporate network administrator and provide the codes shown below.
Notification codes: (1, MALWARE, Othermalware, Hosted on IP controlled by a group or individual known to be malicious., BLOCK-MALWARE, http://jpc2.com/ [jpc2.com] )

That does not inspire confidence.

Nothing new: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36836826)

That's pretty much how I feel about Microsoft products in general.

Re:NSFW? (-1, Troll)

Dexter Herbivore (1322345) | more than 3 years ago | (#36836832)

Threat Type: Othermalware

Without trying to MS bash (but doing so anyway)... isn't that the normal /. opinion of MS software?

Re:NSFW? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36836970)

Threat Type: Othermalware

Without trying to MS bash (but doing so anyway)... isn't that the normal /. opinion of MS software?

Except the link is to the emulator, not to Windows XP. An emulator that, I suspect, could run Linux with equal ease.

Re:NSFW? (1)

Jeng (926980) | more than 3 years ago | (#36837038)

Which if you checked their website you would have seen that they have ubuntu 6 and ubuntu 8 available.

Re:NSFW? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36836870)

The IP address is owned by FDC Servers, a relatively reputable hosting company. The knocks against them are generally for their shitty customer service, I've never heard of any malware or spam complaints about them. However, like with any hosting company, it's possible someone hosted some sort of malware there at some point. Or it's possible your company web filtering is kind of shitty, since all of them are, and false positives are a fact of life. In any event, I wouldn't read too much into it.

Re:NSFW? (1)

Jeng (926980) | more than 3 years ago | (#36836904)

What program is blocking it?

After googling a bit it may just be outdated information, looks like the website has changed hands a few times. Currently owned by eMediaTrack, you can also find information about the jpc on their website.

http://www.emediatrack.net/ [emediatrack.net]

Oddly their website is a lot more informative than the jpc2.com website.

Re:NSFW? (1)

Terrasque (796014) | more than 3 years ago | (#36836996)

After seeing one of those companies define a .css file as "hardcore porn" I kinda lost the faith in them a bit.

Re:NSFW? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36837188)

Didn't you know? CSS stands for c0ck suck1ng slu7s.

Re:NSFW? (1)

PenquinCoder (1431871) | more than 3 years ago | (#36837034)

When I try and visit it (Linux x64, Chrome) I get Error 324 (net::ERR_EMPTY_RESPONSE): The server closed the connection without sending any data.

infos please (1)

rbrausse (1319883) | more than 3 years ago | (#36836750)

the site is very scarce with facts, only a couple of lines in "About". cool project, but a nice example of slashvertisement - we learn _nothing_ about the technology, only that it's SECURE and coded in java...

Speed! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36836796)

Wow, running a virtual CPU, inside an interpreter which runs a virtual CPU.

The only way to get more speed, since everyone KNOWS java is FASTER than C/C++ is to run the java interpreter, on a java interpreter written in java.

That way we can have a virtual machine, running a virtual machine compiler, running a virtual machine.

Think of the SPEED!

Does it support protected mode? (1)

Lieutenant_Dan (583843) | more than 3 years ago | (#36836850)

I had a couple of apps that I wrote in Borland Pascal 7 that I tried to play with it, somehow the DOS (DPMI) extender just didn't work properly since I compiled them in protected mode to use paging . Now, this was with the previous edition of JPC.

Anyone had any luck and can share their insights?

Re:Does it support protected mode? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36836982)

being able to run stuff like windows xp implies that the virtual cpu of the software supports protected mode.

Else it could run only pure dos... you might need an alternative dos extender, though if you install a pure dos image inside any vm you should get it to work (I can't remember anymore if the bp7 dpmi was supported to be run under win 3.0+, but i think so)

you might have to tune the autoexec.bat/config.sys to load the appropriate .sys driver though

Turtles! (1)

infodragon (38608) | more than 3 years ago | (#36836856)

It's garbage collection all they way down!

Yo dawg (4, Funny)

logjon (1411219) | more than 3 years ago | (#36836890)

We heard you like bloat, so we put bloat in your bloat so you can wait while you wait.

And why (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36836896)

would I want my browser to crash and get infected with malware and related pests?

Thanks, but no thanks!

Pfff.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36836906)

I virtualized Windows XP using redstone in Minecraft ages ago...

Really? (1)

fafaforza (248976) | more than 3 years ago | (#36836964)

Not one joke about a basic HTML page with a blue background? Slashdot, you're slipping!

Re:Really? (2)

Infiniti2000 (1720222) | more than 3 years ago | (#36837200)

If I could see the page, I might comment on it!

Re:Really? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36837418)

Not one joke about a basic HTML page with a blue background? Slashdot, you're slipping!

I made a virtual XP machine in a web browser with only 1 line of code!

body bgcolor="Blue"

Does that work for you? It made me chuckle.

Shlashdotted (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36836990)

Ah, Slashdot. How I love your server-crushing efficiency...

It's not a licensing issue, BUT... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36837126)

...a DRM (DCMA) issue.

Accoring to EULA, you are allowed to run as many copies on a single computer as you want. The "single computer" may or may not be running VMs in which copies of XP may be installed. Again, this is according to the EULA.

BUT... and here's the kicker, XP requires activation within 30 days. And you can only activate "few" *) copies. And it's a DCMA violation to even try to circumvent the DRM.

So, in practice, you're not allowed to install "many" copies of XP.

*) Number of allowed activation are different for different editions and different SKUs.

Windows RG is still better!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36837366)

http://www.deanliou.com/WinRG/

How deep can it go? (1)

mmmmbeer (107215) | more than 3 years ago | (#36837442)

So has anyone tried opening XP in a browser in XP in a browser in XP... etc? How many levels can people get it to go?

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