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Australian Attys General Agree in Principle on R18+

timothy posted more than 3 years ago | from the by-default-gentlemen-let's-censor dept.

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dotarray writes "In Adelaide today, the Standing Committee of Attorneys-General was again unable to reach a unanimous decision on the topic of whether or not Australia should have an R18+ rating for video games." Nonetheless, the committee has reached a decision in principle to allow such a rating, with only one Attorney General having abstained from today's vote.

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So stupid (1)

therufus (677843) | more than 3 years ago | (#36843424)

So now our governments stupidity has made world news. Pathetic.

Re:So stupid (2)

White Flame (1074973) | more than 3 years ago | (#36843720)

Welcome to the club.

- USA

Re:So stupid (1)

OnionFighter (1569855) | more than 3 years ago | (#36843960)

Yes, video game ratings are a trifle compared to deciding whether to default on your loans or not.

- USA

Re:So stupid (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36843736)

"Now"?

Re:So stupid (2)

deniable (76198) | more than 3 years ago | (#36843738)

What stupidity? All but the new guy agreed to do it. The new guy needs a bit of time to study the issue. It's likely to be a done deal by October or November.

Re:So stupid (2)

mjwx (966435) | more than 3 years ago | (#36843762)

What stupidity? All but the new guy agreed to do it. The new guy needs a bit of time to study the issue. It's likely to be a done deal by October or November.

Either that or state governments will legislate it of their own accord, QLD and ACT has already indicated they will.

Then the A-G's will understand the true meaning of failure, when state government has gotten more done then you.

Re:So stupid (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36844136)

Actually, the federal government is getting so sick of stonewalling and delays by the states that they'll introduce the classification nationally if the states can't agree.

http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/games/historic-agreement-on-r18-video-games-20110722-1hs78.html

Good on 'em. Even if it is just an attempt to make their mandatory filters more palatable.

Re:So stupid (2)

sortius_nod (1080919) | more than 3 years ago | (#36852664)

that's exactly what's happening:

http://www.ministerhomeaffairs.gov.au/www/ministers/oconnor.nsf/Page/MediaReleases_2011_ThirdQuarter_22July2011-AgreementonR18+classificationforcomputergames [ministerho...irs.gov.au]

If anyone saw the press conference that the minister/attorneys general did they'd know that this is going ahead, whether NSW signs up or not. Add to this that the NSW AG has hinted that he will be voting for it, just needs data. All of them understand that the average age of an Aussie gamer is 30.

Re:So stupid (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36843896)

So now your stupidity at not RTFA has made world news comments! Pathetic.

Re:So stupid (1)

dbIII (701233) | more than 3 years ago | (#36844290)

If the games were rated like movies by the Federal government it would be far less of a deal. As it is each state is busy showing that they are contributing something to the issue "for the children" so we get a pile of idiotic press opportunities and everything played to get maximum attention.

Re:So stupid (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36891988)

what are you on about,

Its about time this has happened,
  Im so sick and tired of hearing games get banned from over here in stores. i want to beable to buy a game in a store without any hassles..

And so they should have a R18 rating on games, just like movies its a great idea...

Ah Politics (5, Insightful)

Spigot the Bear (2318678) | more than 3 years ago | (#36843466)

"We're in agreement that this should be done, but not that we should actually do it."

Re:Ah Politics (1)

AngryDeuce (2205124) | more than 3 years ago | (#36845282)

"We're in agreement that this should be done, but not that we should actually do it."

Wish I could mod this up higher, but it's already at max...

Coward! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36843576)

The New South Wales Attorney General claimed he had to discuss it in cabinet, despite the topic of discussion being known for months (years, in fact) beforehand. Bloody coward.

Fortunately, the Federal Government will over-rule the abstention by the coward, so we will finally get our R18+ rating.

I'm looking forward to a more rational rating system for games.

Now all we need is the death of the stupid ISP filter.

Re:Coward! (1)

deniable (76198) | more than 3 years ago | (#36843752)

Known about for years by a government that's only four months old? He needs to give some policy people time to justify their jobs and tell him it's not a problem.

Nanny State (3, Insightful)

rat_herder (527991) | more than 3 years ago | (#36843668)

Australians are such a contradiction, relaxed and uptight at same time. It's a weird attitude we seem to inherited have inherited from the Brits. This insanity serves as an example of the unbearably slow pace of reform in this country, in a social environment that is changing quicker than most people realize.

Re:Nanny State (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36843926)

Those of us who are relaxed, and so laid back we can't be bothered doing anything about the uptight pricks. Thus the country gets run by uptight pricks, while the rest of us ignore them as much as possible.

Re:Nanny State (1)

Colourspace (563895) | more than 3 years ago | (#36844202)

I've thought this about Australia since my visit to Sydney 5 years ago. It seemed to be such a nanny state there, just lots of niggling little things. It's all 'put another shrimp on the barbie and get yourself a tinny' projected but when you get there, they are actually more uptight than us Brits. Nothing against Australians as such, but I don't buy that 'relaxed' image they want us to take.

Re:Nanny State (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36892026)

LOL you think coming over here to OZ land, MY country, and stating what you just have, is what we really like.

You seriously have no clue about this country and what the people are like in it.. as far as sydney goes though, ITS A SHIT HOLE people... go to a real state.. like adelaide.. or queensland...

We dont want people to think that we are relaxed, And its not relaxation either.
We just choose to not be a fast paced country and have to click on everyday for stupid shit.. mind the french..

We are a free country the enjoy living our lives, rather then othre peoples. why do you think most people come to live over here... IS A FREEEEEE country...

not relaxed... FREEED...

and what has this got to do with the fact about classifications on video games, They should have it anyways over here for the due fact of little kids playing these games and the sexual graphics and killing graphics in some games are a little harsh for the youngs eyes... This shoul;d of been something to have happened many years ago.. i dont see why you wouldnt of.

If you cazn do it to movies then you should to video games... plus most of the time all the good games get banned from being sold in stores over here.. thats bullsh*t.. COME ON wheres our new MK.. i mean i can get it but still, why not beable to go into a store for once to get out of the house and actually buy it then do it online... This is going to make a difference in austrailia and i cant wait..

Abstention (4, Interesting)

Dan B. (20610) | more than 3 years ago | (#36843700)

The NSW Attorney General abstained because it hasn't been discussed in the NSW Parliament, despite (in his own words) "the issue being around for over 9 years".

I really do despise Conservatives that are unable to make a decisions without asking someone else. Why do you think you are in that position? It's because obviously people trust you to make the right decisions from time to time without having to go back and ask them all the time!!

Re:Abstention (1)

kevinmenzel (1403457) | more than 3 years ago | (#36844156)

Ah yes, but if you don't ask someone else then when people think your policy is crap, you can't say "Well, it was developed with input from outside consultation." It's much harder to pass the buck if you admit to doing something out of your own authority. Lucky for Australia that in this case it's just video game ratings. The Canadian government is playing a similar game with our immigration policy right now, which is a good deal more serious.

Re:Abstention (1)

Dracophile (140936) | more than 3 years ago | (#36853124)

Because they're awaiting instructions from Fred Nile [wikipedia.org] ?

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Also considering Facebook as R18 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36843718)

which is somewhat silly .. but this is Australia after all ..

I still don't get you folks ... (1)

MacTO (1161105) | more than 3 years ago | (#36843808)

Ratings may not be the whole story when it comes down to a game or movie's content, but the purpose of a rating is to restrict the sale of a product so that the proper authority (e.g. the parent) can make a final decision.

And I do support the state restricting the sale of a product to minors. While the authority on if the child watches or plays it rightfully belongs to a parent rather than the state, that authority also rightfully belongs to a parent rather than a retailer. Handing the retailer the authority to make that decision is pure idiocy since they are more likely to be motiated by money or apathy than the rights of the parent. Handing that authority to the state gives ratings legal standing, which self-regulation just doesn't have.

Re:I still don't get you folks ... (1)

cheekyjohnson (1873388) | more than 3 years ago | (#36843888)

I think it's rather pointless to restrict the sales of certain types of video games and other entertainment to certain people. Unless someone can show that this "inappropriate" content causes real world violence or somehow is harmful (which, to my knowledge, there has been no direct evidence to support such a conclusion), I couldn't care less if some kid walks into a store and buys a violent video game (even if they did it without the permission of their parents).

Awesome! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36843912)

If this means that formerly banned video games are available to adults then i'm 100% for whatever will get Yahtzee his games legally.

I'm a bit skeptical on this (1)

Liam Pomfret (1737150) | more than 3 years ago | (#36844216)

From the rumblings I've been hearing, rather than adding a new R18+ rating about the MA15+ rating, what they may be intending to do is simply to change the current MA15+ rating into an R18+ rating. All the games currently ending up as refused classification because they go beyond what's allowed for the MA15+ rating would still be refused classification. Such a change would be fairly dangerous for our marketplace, I'd think. With the way the general public treats R ratings for film and TV, an R18+ sticker would be a death sentence to games that would have gotten an MA15+ before, where they would have expected good sales to teens. Under that kind of situation, we could potentially see games even more dramatically cut here in Australia, so they could scrape in with an M or even a PG rating.

atty (1)

atisss (1661313) | more than 3 years ago | (#36845938)

what's the advantage of using atty instead of getty?

Re:atty (1)

Ihmhi (1206036) | more than 3 years ago | (#36846580)

"Attys" is shorthand for "Attorneys". Just the way it's been. I suppose they could have said "Attys Gen", but knowing this audience they might have thought it some was script kiddie from Ukraine.

Re:atty (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36846744)

Dude, playing R18+ game on a tty? You're pervert

Re:atty (1)

Ihmhi (1206036) | more than 3 years ago | (#36858390)

...what?

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