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Chinese Firm Launches Cloud-Based Mobile OS

Soulskill posted more than 3 years ago | from the and-now-for-something-completely-different dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "China-based company Alibaba looks to take on the might of Apple and Google with a cloud-based operating system. According to the company, its Aliyun OS will be based on the Linux kernel, and will also be compatible with Android apps. Launched alongside the K-Touch Cloud-Smart Phone W700, Alibaba is hoping that a 0% slice of developer profits will encourage adoption, and says it hopes manufacturers will take the platform to global markets."

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Translation (0)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 3 years ago | (#36928736)

Translation: Yet another company takes Linux and other open source projects, throws their own logo and some custom linking code on it and declares "We've built our own OS!"

Re:Translation (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36928834)

<anecdote>Every software shop I've worked for has always ripped off an open source project and called it their own. Once I realize this I quit, because to me it is worse than stealing. They don't ever think of what they do as bad since they have no comprehension of what open source is all about, nor do they understand the benefits of open source software. I've gone through four jobs because of this, and now I freelance so I can just say "No!" to those sorts projects.</anecdote>

Its up to the programmer to notice this, and I think we coders have an ethical responsibility to minimize this sort of act. I know its not illegal to re-brand open source software, but it is unethical to not give credit to the original authors.

Re:Translation (1)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 3 years ago | (#36929054)

But this is ridiculous. It runs Android apps they proclaim! Well, that's likely because it's fucking Android with some custom logos.

Re:Translation (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36931098)

it likely runs a VM to support this

Re:Translation (1)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 3 years ago | (#36932960)

I doubt it highly. It runs Linux, runs Android apps. This is a rebranded Android OS.

Chinese cloud smartphone (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36928832)

What a perfect method to spy on the user. Just silently change the cloud software, no way for the user to verify. Send them your data on a silver plater.

Re:Chinese cloud smartphone (1)

VirginMary (123020) | more than 3 years ago | (#36929064)

on a silver plater

English not being my native language, I had to look this one up:

plater
[pley-ter; for 2 also plat-er]
–noun
1. a person or thing that plates.
2. an inferior race horse.

Re:Chinese cloud smartphone (1)

WorBlux (1751716) | more than 3 years ago | (#36929264)

two "l"'s actually platter, a type of plate larger than a dining plate on which food is served,

Re:Chinese cloud smartphone (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36930664)

Pllater? Hmm... I don't know what a pllater is but I want one now.

Re:Chinese cloud smartphone (1)

VirginMary (123020) | more than 3 years ago | (#36931046)

two "l"'s actually platter, a type of plate larger than a dining plate on which food is served,

I knew what "platter" was, I was just curious whether there was such a word as "plater" and if it existed, what it meant! :)

I find that just because the spellchecker doesn't highlight something certainly doesn't imply that it is correct. Just look at how many people there are that can't seem to distinguish between "their" and "there" or "it is", when written as a contraction and "its", the possessive pronoun. I guess after all proofreading is still useful!

Apps Are 'Cloud Based' Too (1)

WrongSizeGlass (838941) | more than 3 years ago | (#36928848)

FTFA

“Cloud apps live in the cloud, which means users don't have to download them and it is easier for the developer to make changes or updates as the end user doesn't have to change anything,” a spokesperson for the company told PC Pro. “The apps on the handset are more like a bookmark.”

I guess that means every change to the UI has to be sent to the phone? That's going to be a lot of bandwidth ... and slow. I guess they're aiming to part of the top 5% of users [slashdot.org] whose unlimited data is being throttled ;-)

Re:Apps Are 'Cloud Based' Too (1)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 3 years ago | (#36933322)

bandwidth use is likely to be less of an issue in use than burning cpu for browsing phonebook as if you were browsing a heavy website.

I'd bitch more about the JS burning the cpu, than the quota. however, this may be a way around some patents? not that they matter in china. but globally, as the phone wouldn't actually be shipping with much software..

Security is NOT an issue with The Cloud. (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36928876)

Wait a minute. I'm a manager, and I've been reading a lot of case studies and watching a lot of webcasts about The Cloud. Based on all of this glorious marketing literature, I, as a manager, have absolutely no reason to doubt the safety of any data put in The Cloud.

The case studies all use words like "secure", "MD5", "RSS feeds" and "encryption" to describe the security of The Cloud. I don't know about you, but that sounds damn secure to me! Some Clouds even use SSL and HTTP. That's rock solid in my book.

And don't forget that you have to use Web Services to access The Cloud. Nothing is more secure than SOA and Web Services, with the exception of perhaps SaaS. But I think that Cloud Services 2.0 will combine the tiers into an MVC-compliant stack that uses SaaS to increase the security and partitioning of the data.

My main concern isn't with the security of The Cloud, but rather with getting my Indian team to learn all about it so we can deploy some first-generation The Cloud applications and Web Services to provide the ultimate platform upon which we can layer our business intelligence and reporting, because there are still a few verticals that we need to leverage before we can move to The Cloud 2.0.

Uncle Hu (0)

antifoidulus (807088) | more than 3 years ago | (#36928978)

And all you have to do is surrender all your data and privacy to the Chinese government, who will in no way use it to spy on you and make dissident "disappear". You can trust Uncle Hu.

Re:Uncle Hu (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36929036)

And if you're using a PC with Windows, MacOS, etc. or a phone with iOS or Android or whatevver, all you have to do is surrender all your data and privacy to your carrier, the governments that gave them licenses and Uncle Sam.

What's the big difference from the privacy perspective, Mr. Privacy Purist?

Re:Uncle Hu (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36929528)

You can trust Uncle Hu.

Trust Uncle who?






(sorry)

Re:Uncle Hu (1)

Sulphur (1548251) | more than 3 years ago | (#36930148)

You can trust Uncle Hu.

Trust Uncle who?

(sorry)

That's Doctor Hu you insensitive clod.

Re:Uncle Hu (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36930858)

Wait... Doctor Who?

(I couldn't resist.)

Re:Uncle Hu (2)

arazor (55656) | more than 3 years ago | (#36930122)

And all you have to do is surrender all your data and privacy to the Chinese government, who will in no way use it to spy on you and make dissident "disappear". You can trust Uncle Hu.

And this is diffrent from Google how?

Re:Uncle Hu (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36930546)

As far as I'm aware, Google hasn't murdered anyone...

it's all about control (1)

marcello_dl (667940) | more than 3 years ago | (#36929162)

if china wanted to eat up android and iphone they would simply need tosell powerful hardware at no profit and a free / as in freedom variant of android plus the i/o options we've seen on the nokia n900. Users would say "hey i can do anything with this new phone!". After three years the market is theirs. Something like this worked for them before, as you can see every time you read "made in china".

Profit is not the objective, control is.
Since the trend in recent centuries is a decrease of freedom for the average citizen (don't think about the ballots, or the miniskirt: think about being able to feed yourself, to build a house, to get clean water from a well....) the chinese have simply skipped a couple generations of too "independent" phone models.

We should import it, calling it "mark of the beast".

Re:it's all about control (1)

patscii (2425314) | more than 3 years ago | (#36933672)

Since the trend in recent centuries is a decrease of freedom for the average citizen (don't think about the ballots, or the miniskirt: think about being able to feed yourself, to build a house, to get clean water from a well....)

People have access to cleaner water, and a healthier diet now, than 200 years ago...and china is selling hardware. It's called Android, and iPhone

Why take a slice from the developer . . . (1)

Tanman (90298) | more than 3 years ago | (#36929478)

. . . when you can just take the development! Really, who is going to trust a:

1) Free
2) Chinese (with all the IP protection that supplies!)
3) Cloud
4) Startup

service with their lifeblood development work? Anyone?

Re:Why take a slice from the developer . . . (1)

julesh (229690) | more than 3 years ago | (#36931548)

FWIW, Alibaba isn't exactly a startup. They're probably the largest exporter of low-cost Chinese tech to the west, and have been for years.

Re:Why take a slice from the developer . . . (1)

Tanman (90298) | more than 3 years ago | (#36933058)

I was more referring to the actual service. I figure most news-worthy chinese companies are probably quite well-established. Regardless of how much tech they export, though, it's still startup for cloud hosting.

Buzzword generator (1)

viking80 (697716) | more than 3 years ago | (#36929512)

I have also been working on a buzzworkd generator. I included words: Cloud-based, linux kernel, android, Mobile, platform, global marked. the OPs also included the words: virtual machine, apps, chinese, smartphone. What a powerful buzzword generator!

I am also impressed by the bold juxtaposition of buzzwords in one sentence: Android compatible Cloud-based linux kernel.

I hope nobody here on /. will destroy this beauty with any attempts at understanding what it is, or what it possibly can mean.

censorship in the cloud (1)

nickmalthus (972450) | more than 3 years ago | (#36929788)

How convenient, a one stop shop to delete the pesky embarrassing dissident mobile photos and videos.

marrE (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36930384)

going to continue, 0f the waaring

Another Linux with another name. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36930700)

Another Linux with another name.

Subject (1)

Ihmhi (1206036) | more than 3 years ago | (#36931100)

Quick, I need 39 more guys - I've got a fantastic plan.

Alibaba? (1)

bobamu (943639) | more than 3 years ago | (#36931306)

I was under the impression that alibaba is nothing more than an international trade portal. I think someone got confused here, I know I am.

Just what customers want (1)

amightywind (691887) | more than 3 years ago | (#36933346)

Just what customers want, to be part of the Chicom cloud.
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