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Spiderman's Politically Correct Replacement

samzenpus posted more than 3 years ago | from the taking-it-in-a-different-direction dept.

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jbarr writes "In the latest Marvel Comic series 'Ultimate Fallout,' Miles Morales replaces Peter Parker who has been killed off by the Green Goblin. Morales is a half-black, half-Latino teen, and the creators haven't ruled out that he might be gay. From the article: 'Marvel's editor in chief Axel Alonso denied that having a black Spider Man was a publicity stunt. 'What you have is a Spider-Man for the 21st century who's reflective of our culture and diversity. As someone who grew up on a steady diet of Luke Cage, Hero For Hire and Shang Chi, Master of Kung Fu, I am personally invested,' he said. "

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PC? (5, Insightful)

ceswiedler (165311) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976216)

How is a half-black, half-Latino teenager more politically correct than a white teenager?

Re:PC? (3, Insightful)

DanTheStone (1212500) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976228)

You're right, they should have made him a girl.

Re:PC? (4, Funny)

u17 (1730558) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976254)

...and disabled.

Re:PC? (5, Funny)

DanTheStone (1212500) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976298)

And changed his/her name to "Spiderperson".

WHERE'S THE BLACK GWEN STACY? (1, Troll)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976338)

I am so ready for another comic-book crush.

Re:WHERE'S THE BLACK GWEN STACY? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36976676)

Given that they haven't stated his orientation, how do you know it won't be Glen Stacy?

Re:PC? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36976388)

Good call. "Spiderperson" means they won't have to change the name when Spidey either chooses to or is captured by an Iranian Villain and becomes transgendered...

Re:PC? (5, Funny)

rubycodez (864176) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976518)

SpiderTranny is more catchy.

SpiderTranny, SpiderTranny,
butt implants for a woman's fanny,
wears a bra, any size,
can't you see, he likes guys,
look out, here cums the Spider Tranny.

Re:PC? (2)

swanzilla (1458281) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976638)

Arthropodperson?

Re:PC? (2)

tysonedwards (969693) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976642)

Thinking it over, I would have to say that based on the Bureau of Labor Statistics report of Non-Fatal On-The-Job Incidents that a half Black, half Latino homosexual would have a pretty high likelihood for being involved in an incident requiring report. Each one of those categories have statistically high risk factors on their own...

If said person also happened to be employed at a Nuclear Power Generation Facility, (National Institutes of Health study of Workplace Cleanliness for 2008) that there are an increased number of insects, rats and other vermin and thereby increase said person's chances of being bitten by said radioactive insect.

Ta-da, all the sudden you have a super-minority!

In all seriousness though, what's more minority than a handful of people with abilities unseen by most who are looking to feel empowered so they do whatever they want against the rules of society that they live in?

Superheroes are minorities!!!

Re:PC? (2, Insightful)

NicknamesAreStupid (1040118) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976656)

. . . and bisexual but also may be asexual because (s)he is conflicted, bi-polar, ADDH, and has seventeen personalizes (one for each major racial/ethnic/religious group). Of course, (s)he must be a Democrat, too, because most villains are Republican.

Re:PC? (1)

Gerzel (240421) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976596)

They already did that. They could make him a transsexual.

Spidertran!

Re:PC? (4, Insightful)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976238)

For that matter, when did Latino become a race?

Re:PC? (4, Insightful)

alen (225700) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976282)

or better yet what is a latino? i'm sure the mexicans and peruvians think of themselves as different

Re:PC? (4, Informative)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976476)

Even more, if you sit a white European Mexican next to a full-blooded Mayan Mexican and ask them both if they're "Latino," they would probably both say yes.

Re:PC? (1, Insightful)

ZombieBraintrust (1685608) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976326)

Same time white became a race. As apposed to English, German, or Russian.

Re:PC? (4, Insightful)

Mindcontrolled (1388007) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976440)

Wrong direction. Since when are English, German and Russian anything but nationalities? The diversity amongst humans is not nearly large enough to qualify the introduction of biologically solidly defined races. Local varieties, that's all. 'Race' in humans is a pure social construct.

Re:PC? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36976588)

> Since when are English, German and Russian anything but nationalities?

When they became languages?

Re:PC? (2)

tmosley (996283) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976658)

Uhhh, since the Angles, Saxons, Germanic tribes, and the Rus were physically and culturally separated for many centuries, and interbred with different populations (most notably, the Rus interbred with their Mongol overlords, while the Germanic tribes spent some time in North Africa, and North Africans spent some time in the former Visigothic kingdom of Hispania)?

But hey, let's all ignore history and heritage, unless the color of the history and heritage in question is something other than white.

Re:PC? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36976400)

For that matter, when did Latino become a race?

When you white people started feeling guilty about everyone you considered sub-human.

Re:PC? (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976548)

Except there are white Latinos (lots of them--some with blonde hair, blue eyes and all). Depending on how much they intermarried with the natives, there are people whose families have lived in Latin America since the Conquistador era who are more European than I am. Then there are pure indian Latinos who don't have a drop of European blood in them. There are even blacks in Cuba and the Caribbean who would call themselves "Latino" too. It's a unique situation in the Spanish/Portuguese New World, very different from the French/English New World.

It’s not a race – it’s a cultura (2)

alexander_686 (957440) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976418)

So, you can be Hispanic if you have lived in southern California for the past 10 generations or if you Nazi grandparents had fled to Argentina. Which can lead to some interesting situations. For example, my mom was classified as by her employer as Hispanic when there was a democratic was president and not when a republican was president. And while Mexicans and Peruvians think of themselves different, I would be most would think of themselves as hispanic - just like English and Germans would thenk of themselves as different and yet both as European.

Re:PC? (3, Insightful)

a_mari_usque_ad_mare (1996182) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976320)

'Politically correct' now just means things that angry white men don't like. Often that includes (and I don't know why) people of other races, religions, etc.

The article is from the Daily Mail, no surpise there.

Re:PC? (1, Insightful)

SilverHatHacker (1381259) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976330)

He represents the minorities. You know, the same minorities that get offered scholarships based on their race or gender; the minorities that get hired in order to fill a quota, with no regard for their actual qualifications; the minorities that can say whatever they want and play the discrimination card when someone calls them out, while the rest of us are told to shut up and be tolerant; the minorities that never seem to be at fault for anything, always shifting the blame to the persecution of the majority.

(Note: This being the internet, I expect some of you may interpret this as a specific attack toward blacks and Latinos. That's not exactly what I meant, I'm just sick of people demanding preferential treatment in the name of equality, whoever they are. Be it gender or ethnicity, the vocal groups never seem to want to be treated fairly, they want to be treated better than everyone else. It's actually feminists that get on my nerves more than anyone else, but that's irrelevant.)

Re:PC? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36976406)

Let me guess, white male? Sucks when you're no longer the privileged one doesn't it?

Re:PC? (2)

SilverHatHacker (1381259) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976432)

Sucks when I have to pay my way through college myself, and an Asian woman I know almost gets a full ride before they even look at her grades.

Re:PC? (3, Insightful)

royallthefourth (1564389) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976480)

Then demand universal access to education instead of whining about a group of people who actually succeeded in pushing forward something that benefits them while doing no harm to you.

Re:PC? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36976662)

something that benefits them while doing no harm to you.

No harm other than increased tuition/taxes, right? I mean, the money that paid for that Asian woman's scholarship had to come from somewhere.

Re:PC? (-1, Troll)

Lurker2288 (995635) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976632)

Oh, poor fucking you, to suffer a small measure of the bullshit that minorites in this country have been dealing with forever. What a truly bleak age it is when a perfectly good white boy can no longer expect to coast simply by being a member of the privileged class.

Re:PC? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36976474)

Revenge for past wrongs (especially when directed at those not responsible for it) is wholly incompatible with equality. "Separate but equal" is never equal, no matter who is the beneficiary.

Re:PC? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36976490)

So what you're saying is that he's right, equality is being completely thrown by the wayside, and it's funny because now white males get to suffer? I don't know that I can think of a stupider response.

Re:PC? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36976496)

Hi, black male here.

I'm not the one you responded to, but I'll have you know that I'm sick and tired of people playing the discrimination card just for getting personal gain. I could have entered some programs just for being black, even when I didn't qualify otherwise. I declined.

Stop discrimination: give everyone the same treatment. That would do more towards equality than anything else.

Re:PC? (2)

beanyk (230597) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976460)

He represents the minorities. You know, the same minorities that get offered scholarships based on their race or gender; the minorities that get hired in order to fill a quota, with no regard for their actual qualifications; the minorities that can say whatever they want and play the discrimination card when someone calls them out, while the rest of us are told to shut up and be tolerant; the minorities that never seem to be at fault for anything, always shifting the blame to the persecution of the majority.

The affirmative action policies I've encountered only state that minorities should be preferred only when two or more job candidates are equally qualified. How badly this is abused is, of course, open to debate (and liberal use of anecdote).

Re:PC? (2)

swan5566 (1771176) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976592)

And who gets to decide when job candidates are "equal" when it comes to discrimination lawsuits? I'll give you a hint, it's not the hiring employer. This leads to hiring managers erring big time on the side of caution, because the potential cost of such a lawsuit (frivolous or otherwise) is too great.

Re:PC? (0)

Latinhypercube (935707) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976502)

Hey Racist,
"the same minorities that get offered scholarships based on their race or gender; the minorities that get hired in order to fill a quota, with no regard for their actual qualifications"
You mean, the same way whites hire other whites irrespective of their intelligence / skill / lack thereof ?

Re:PC? (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36976606)

(Note: This being the internet, I expect some of you may interpret this as a specific attack toward blacks and Latinos. That's not exactly what I meant, I'm just sick of people demanding preferential treatment in the name of equality, whoever they are. Be it gender or ethnicity, the vocal groups never seem to want to be treated fairly, they want to be treated better than everyone else. It's actually feminists that get on my nerves more than anyone else, but that's irrelevant.)

One of the great downfalls of the civil rights movement is that when minorities found voice and actually got the powers that be to consider them relevant, they wound up using it as an excuse to take power, not become equals. For example, 150 years of black oppression and the backswing of the pendulum is exactly what you're complaining about.

A truly equal, non-racial society would be colorblind both in protection and promotion. But that's not really what anyone who fights for minority rights wants: the motivation is power. Power over whites? Eh, I don't think civil leaders would ever stop crowing about how much more advantage the white man has. More, it's power over the preferential treatments of other minorities. You see it all the time, for instance, in talking about illegal immigration from Haiti versus illegal immigration from Cuba versus illegal immigration from Mexico.

It's quite interesting now because it's all repeating with the heightened awareness LGBT rights issues. In 40 to 50 years you can expect that sexual preference and identity would also find itself thrown into the ring to fight amongst other minority groups.

He represents lack of imagination (1)

Shivetya (243324) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976618)

Even reading the stories on this change it is very evident, they are out of ideas.

What they are doing wrong is dismissing the large number of minority superheros that already exist but simply do not get much attention. So instead they have to repackage and existing character and hope to get away with it. It reminds me of the New Coke debacle.

I have no problem with them having a new hero with similar powers, someone who takes up the mantle but it obviously not the original nor ever claims to be such. Still for all the politically correct points being spent in just one character makes the whole thing a farce.

Re:PC? (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Psychopath (18031) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976668)

(Note: This being the internet, I expect some of you may interpret this as a specific attack toward blacks and Latinos...)

I didn't read it that way at all. I read it as an attack on anyone who is not a white male. Although I'm betting you don't like some of those, too.

I agree that preferential treatment sucks. Having a non-white Spiderman doesn't fall into that category. He just isn't white. It also gives the writers some room to create interesting and new stories.

Re:PC? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36976680)

Oh boy, digg and reddit weren't enough. Now we can have people complaining about uppity minorities on slashdot as well. Has it crossed your mind, my friend, that these people complain not for the sake of complaining but because they are systematically discriminated against, to this day, throughout their lives? Those "n-word rights" that you so covet are not actually very much compared to how much racism there STILL is in most companies' hiring practices, or the fact that women get promoted last in the workplace?

If you really think it's easier, even right now, being non-white than being white, or being a woman than being a man? Cry moar. It's not.

Re:PC? (1)

Artraze (600366) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976378)

Because a gay half-black, half-Latino teen is much more "reflective of our culture and diversity". I mean, there's probably more than 100 people like that! I for one feel that it's great that elitist whites controlling the media have finally awoken to such a significant and previously ignored demographic.

RTFA (2)

Toe, The (545098) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976390)

RTFA: because in the 21st century, everyone is black and latino and a teenager and gay. Duh.

Re:PC? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36976404)

Because 'political correctness' means 'white genocide'. The destruction of the white race.

Therefore, everything 'politically correct' is devoted to that end - the promotion of homosexuality, thus less white children, the promotion of non-whites over whites, so 'some are more equal than others', so whites can't get jobs - thus less white children, and non-whites commit crimes against whites on a daily basis, yet the Jew-owned media hides their crimes, and over-emphasises any crimes by whites against non-whites, etc.etc.

Why aren't white people allowed to have their own countries any more?

Re:PC? (2)

bigsexyjoe (581721) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976608)

In our world you have two categories for anything. In this case the two categories are: politically correct and white supremacist. And plenty of racists cry "politically correct!" whenever someone calls them on their crap or is simply less racist than them. So yeah, new Spiderman is politically correct, but I don't think Marvel should limit their art to avoid that criticism.

But NO IRISH promised Marvel (4, Funny)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976218)

Next up, Wolverine's special two-part Bar Mitzvah issue! L'chaim!

Re:But NO IRISH promised Marvel (2)

OzPeter (195038) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976354)

Next up, Wolverine's special two-part Bar Mitzvah issue! L'chaim!

If you think that will be fun, you should have seen the Bris edition!

Re:But NO IRISH promised Marvel (4, Funny)

demonbug (309515) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976416)

Next up, Wolverine's special two-part Bar Mitzvah issue! L'chaim!

If you think that will be fun, you should have seen the Bris edition!

I give up; how did they counter his mutant healing factor?

Re:But NO IRISH promised Marvel (1)

OzPeter (195038) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976494)

Next up, Wolverine's special two-part Bar Mitzvah issue! L'chaim!

If you think that will be fun, you should have seen the Bris edition!

I give up; how did they counter his mutant healing factor?

Well played .. I didn't even think about that aspect. I was more thinking about him performing the act.

Re:But NO IRISH promised Marvel (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976600)

I give up; how did they counter his mutant healing factor?

A very good mohel with an adamantium knife.

Re:But NO IRISH promised Marvel (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36976462)

Next up, Wolverine's special two-part Bar Mitzvah issue! L'chaim!

If you think that will be fun, you should have seen the Bris edition!

Best I could do with "Wolverine + Mohel" and google image search on my way out the door:
http://blingdomofgod.com/4283.jpg [blingdomofgod.com]

Re:But NO IRISH promised Marvel (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36976392)

Next up, Wolverine's special two-part Bar Mitzvah issue! L'chaim!

Given Wolverine has extra-human regenerative powers, how would the bris work? Does it count if it just grows back?

Bendis is writing it. (2)

ZombieBraintrust (1685608) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976230)

Bendis is still writing the books. He has written good books for the last 11 years. I think we can give this a chance. If he had introduced a spider-man that was too close to the old peter parker this title would have jumped the shark. There is no reason to retread that ground in this title. If you want peter parker read amazing spider-man.

Re:Bendis is writing it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36976352)

"If you want peter parker read amazing spider-man."
The last time I heard something similar, Bendis was telling us "if you want Spider-Man stories as they were before Brand New Day, read Spider-Girl." And then he canceled that.

The logical extrapolation (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36976234)

Minoriteam! [wikipedia.org]

How is that "politically correct"? (5, Insightful)

eepok (545733) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976250)

Political correctness is daintily tip-toeing around words and phrases because those words or phrases may or may not be taboo relative to modern cultural, racial, religious, sexual, etc. constructs.

A Spiderman with non-white ethnic background is just diverse. Anyone can get bitten by a radioactive spider.

Re:How is that "politically correct"? (0)

geminidomino (614729) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976314)

Morales is a half-black, half-Latino teen, and the creators haven't ruled out that he might be gay.

Making him black or latino or whatever is diverse.

Half-black, Half-latino, possibly gay? Rolling up so much "special" into one clump like that gives you a PC M'lady. [elfonlyinn.net]

Re:How is that "politically correct"? (4, Funny)

Sprouticus (1503545) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976350)

A Spiderman with non-white ethnic background is just diverse. Anyone can get bitten by a radioactive spider.

Wouldn't a Japanese Spiderman have been more likely.

Re:How is that "politically correct"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36976394)

Already been done: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcxioU7AMM4 [youtube.com]

Re:How is that "politically correct"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36976544)

With their recent radioactivity problems, it would probably be "too soon."

Re:How is that "politically correct"? (2)

Hatta (162192) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976412)

Being diverse for the sake of diversity is political correctness. If you're wanting to tell the story of a mixed race youth who happens to be a web slinger, that's not political correctness. If you're wanting to tell the story of a web slinger who just happens to be mixed race so you appeal to a broader audience, that's political correctness. It's too early to tell which way they'll go with this.

Re:How is that "politically correct"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36976654)

If you're wanting to tell the story of a web slinger who just happens to be mixed race so you appeal to a broader audience, that's political correctness.

No, that's marketing.

On the other hand, if you started out with a white guy just because it never crossed your mind that there are people other than white guys, and then you replace him with another white guy because, well, what else is there besides more white guys, then that's racism, or at least cultural-centrism (is that a word?). However, if you replace a white guy with a non-white guy just to change things up a bit, then that's just plain old diversity.

Whatever the case, why this is even an article is beyond me. There's a new spiderman. Whoop-de-doo. He's not white. BFD.

Re:How is that "politically correct"? (1)

BlackHawk (15529) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976484)

Oh, great! Now you've just set off a panic as people start looking for radioactive spiders that are out to get them! I know I'm safe, the tin foil chestguard repels them.

Don't you know what political correctness is? (2, Informative)

bigsexyjoe (581721) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976546)

It's what conservatives whine when people don't let them engage in overt racism or when others refrain from racism. So yes, a black/hispanic gay Spiderman is "politically correct." However, I don't think Marvel should limit it's art to appease people who cry "Political correctness!" They want to tell a story about someone who reflects the new America and I think the gay angle is great because Spiderman has always been an underdog.

Crime to be White Now? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36976256)

Since when has having a fictitious character be white become a hate crime?

It's not "Peter Parker" so it's fine (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36976274)

It's a different guy, putting on a similar costume, inspired by the "original." There's nothing wrong with that, other than perhaps it would've been better to create a new character. This is better than DC rebooting their comics, or even mainstream Spider-man opting to have a huge chunk of his life rewritten.

Not the real Spider-Man (1)

Nick Fel (1320709) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976284)

All this death of Spider-Man stuff is in their Ultimate line that does away with existing continuity. Peter Parker's still alive and kicking in the regular books.

Re:Not the real Spider-Man (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36976470)

"Real"?

Spider man killed and replaced (1)

Saishuuheiki (1657565) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976286)

Am I the only that can't get the thought out of his head that the new spider-man was bitten by a radioactive spider-man?

Otherwise he'd turn into a spider after all.

Fucking hell (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36976288)

And here I thought Spider-Man in Spider-Man 3 was already too politically correct.

Recipes... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36976290)

Half of this... and half of that... stir briskly... bake for an hour in a 500 oven ... serve to the unwary

MM Instead of PP? (1)

kakyoin01 (2040114) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976300)

Why not just let Scumbag Steve take over instead?

LOL @ Daily Fail stories (0)

HarrySquatter (1698416) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976310)

So Slashdot is still posting stories from the Daily Fail despite the fact that it has routinely been shown to be making shit up or creating phony controversies to drive web clicks and sell papers?

Re:LOL @ Daily Fail stories (2)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976366)

Yeah the Daily Mail could tell me that today is Wednesday and I'd still double-check.

Re:LOL @ Daily Fail stories (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36976386)

The Daily Mail may have a crappy reputation, but this story at least is legit and verifiable [comicsbeat.com] .

Re:LOL @ Daily Fail stories (2)

HarrySquatter (1698416) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976448)

Yes, the Daily Fail routinely picks up on stories that are true but then purposefully leaves out necessary facts in their reporting in order to create a controversy that doesn't exist. In this story they leave out the fact that this is in an alternate universe comic series. In the main series, Spiderman is still white bread Peter Parker. From what Daily Fail would like you to believe, Marvel has removed Peter Parker entirely yet this is just not true.

Who cares? (1)

spiffmastercow (1001386) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976336)

The Spiderman comic books have been dead to me since the whole clone wars debacle.. Seriously, I'm a bit surprised they're even still making comics anymore.. I thought Marvel and DC made their money off of franchise license these days?

"politically correct?" (5, Insightful)

Fanolex (49666) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976346)

terrible, antagonizing post title. having minority characters isn't inherently politically correct. sometimes it's just real.

Re:"politically correct?" (1)

Josh04 (1596071) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976488)

looooot of racism on slashdot today it seems.

I am a half-black/latino teen who might be gay (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36976348)

I can really relate to this!

Ultimate Series does not reflect all of Marvel. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36976356)

The main comics still feature Peter Parker. This is just the Ultimate line of comics, but from the way the article was written, you would think that Spiderman from now in in the Marvel Universe will never be Peter Parker again. Kill him off and then you have an article to write.

Re:Ultimate Series does not reflect all of Marvel. (1)

HarrySquatter (1698416) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976368)

Wait? The Daily Mail is overstating something in order to create a false controversy? SAY IT AINT SO!!!!!

Obiigatory Big Bang Theory, re: Miles Morales (2)

CastrTroy (595695) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976358)

Raj: I can't wait to ask Stan Lee why he insists on giving all his characters first and last names that start with the same letter.

Howard: Oh, come on. Why would you do that?

Raj: Bruce Banner, Reed Richards, Sue Storm, Stephen Strange, Otto Octavius, Silver Surfer, Peter Parker, oh, and worst of all, J. Jonah Jameson, Jr.

Howard: Okay, I'm cutting. I'm not gonna talk to Stan Lee after you cheese him off.

Re:Obiigatory Big Bang Theory, re: Miles Morales (1)

CastrTroy (595695) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976420)

Also,later in the episode.

Raj: Mine says, "To Raj, from Stan Lee."

Howard: That's 'cause you pissed him off about his character names.

Raj: Hey, I didn't even mention Dum Dum Dugan or Green Goblin, Matt Murdock, Pepper Potts, Victor Von Doom, oh, and worst of all, Millie the Model.

Fantastic Four, Daredevil, Invincible Iron Man, Happy Hogan, Curt Connors...

Howard: Would you just let it go?

Raj: And worst of all, Fin Fang Foom.

He doesn't do it on purpose... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36976492)

I think maybe he's just alliterate.

ER, half-black, half-Latino teen, and the creators (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36976360)

Is the primary definition of GAY.

who cares (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36976382)

They need to break new ground every so often or the franchise dies. Why should it mater, so long as he is a realistic character, not a cardboard cut-out of ethnic stereotypes? Perhaps they can use this to discuss real discrimination, it would make a change from the introduction of "anti super" parodies of the real thing.

Besides no-one really thinks the original is permanently dead do they? Think of this as a break, and if you do not like it go find some Indy titles, or web-comics( no pun intended) to read in the meantime. eg "www.paradigmshiftmanga.com" or try one of the big top 100 sites etc.

Walt Disney Would be Proud (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36976428)

This is what happens when a company like Disney buys out a comic book chain.

You should feel privileged that he wasn't bitten by a radioactive mouse from Florida.

Re:Walt Disney Would be Proud (1)

HarrySquatter (1698416) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976478)

This is just an alternate universe series. Spiderman is still Peter Parker in the main series. Daily Fail is creating a false controversy to stir the pot. OH NOES! Marvel creates a character that is a minority and gay!! THE END OF THE WORLD IS NIGH!!!

Kick off the write in campaign (1)

bigdweeb (204273) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976450)

So is it time to start up the write in campaign for Donald Glover to be the next Spiderman again?

Re:Kick off the write in campaign (1)

uigrad_2000 (398500) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976610)

This is actually the outcome of the last write-in campaign.

According to USA Today [thedailywh.at] , Miles Morales is drawn to look like Donald Glover.

Gay??? I heard he swims with the fishes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36976452)

Gay??? I heard he swims with the fishes, er, I mean swings with the arachnids.

Why is being black/latino "politically correct"? (3, Insightful)

guanxi (216397) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976468)

All those blacks, latinos, and gays walking around -- who knew that their very existence is a challenge to samzenpus and jbarr's political beliefs?

Certainly comics should only depict people who look like the vast majority in the United States as of 1950. They should only be marketed toward those people, who rightfully define our country in their own image. Anything else would be politically ... umm .... incorrect.

Re:Why is being black/latino "politically correct" (1)

HarrySquatter (1698416) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976498)

Because the Daily Fail routinely stirs the racial and homophobic pot with these overly sensationalist stories.

I'll say it ... (not PC) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36976482)

It was no longer believable that a white teenage would work the jobs that Spider-Man's alter ego does. So something had to change.

Personally invested? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36976556)

As someone who grew up on a steady diet of Luke Cage, Hero For Hire and Shang Chi, Master of Kung Fu, I am personally invested

As someone who has no idea of what those are, I wonder what he means by being "personally invested".

It strikes me as racist (1)

juancn (596002) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976568)

Excessive politically correct behavior always strikes me as racist/xenophobic. Particularly the (North)American version.

It puts emphasis on superficial differences by trying to apply an arbitrary ontology on everyone.

For example, most media "latinos" are portraid as dark haired, brownish skinned people (which is not true in general, it depends on the particular population). They fail to include all the other latin populations: italians, spanish, french, romanian, portuguese, brazilian, etc. (I'm argentinian BTW, so I count as "latino").

It escapes me how stereotyping entire populations on superficialities became "the right thing to do" from PC point of view.

Spiderman? Get the name right (1)

bickle (101226) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976570)

It's Spider-man, not Spiderman. Unless the new character is Saul Spiderman from upstate New York.

Knock off the passive-aggressive racism (0)

FoolishOwl (1698506) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976572)

Using the expression "politically correct" to label something you dislike is nothing but coded language used by cowardly bigots who know their beliefs are indefensible.

The logic that white=normal (1)

tobyfee (2428648) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976586)

The underlying logic of many of these comments, and the phrasing of the story, is that white is normal, and everything else is some intentional 'weirdness'. Let's break down the logic: Of course, nothing could be 'weirder' than a bi-racial person, that's like a half-elf, half-vampire: it's just silly! it's trying to be too many things, like a doctor who solves crimes and is also the mayor! Further the introduction of non-white heroes to a story is a crutch, used to drum up interest to a bad book. If someone could write a good, interesting book, they'd of course have only white heroes, but sometimes they need extra publicity, so they'll add non-white people in there. Gay people are another publicity stunt, just an effort to drum up business. Lurking behind all this is the idea that white people are being squeezed out, in danger, that it's easy for non-white people to get good jobs and positions, but very hard for white people, that any job you see a non-white person doing, there's a white person out there who could do it better. Never mind that this is a fantasy, the grievances that people imagine in their everyday life are dragged in to every such discussion. How do you think this affects non-white people, and people who identify as two races? They're not vampires or elves, they're normal people. Next time you're on the bus take a look around and ask yourself about the people you see: are there any super-heroes that look like a young, fit version of that person?

Leave him the fuck alone (4, Insightful)

Infiniti2000 (1720222) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976598)

From TFA:

Italian artist Sara Pichelli, who designed Spider-Man's new look, added: 'Maybe sooner or later a black or gay - or both - hero will be considered something absolutely normal.’

How about you make a NEW superhero that is black or gay, or whatever, and for the superheroes that I grew up with just leave them the fuck alone! Where's your goddamn originality? Of course this is a fucking gimmick to make money, you stupid asshole!

Re:Leave him the fuck alone (1)

HarrySquatter (1698416) | more than 3 years ago | (#36976674)

If you don't like this, don't read the series. Spider-man is still white bread Peter Parker in The Amazing Spider-man. This change is in an alternate universe doesn't affect that. If it bothers you that much that a made up character is gay and non-white then maybe you need to reevaluate your life.

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