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First PS3 Jailbreaker Arrested In South Africa

timothy posted about 3 years ago | from the how-quaintly-soviet-of-them dept.

Crime 119

GusGous writes "South African newspaper Beeld reports that the first person known to be arrested for jailbreaking the Playstation 3 was arrested in Parktown, Johannesburg today. This raid was conducted by the South African Police Service's Commercial Crime Unit, after receiving criminal complaints from the South African Federation Against Copyright Theft (SAFACT). Members of the police were assisted by the South African Revenue Service (SARS) Computer Forensics Lab. The police confiscated goods of around R100 000 (14000 USD)." See also this story in Afrikaans; Google translation.

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PS3 jailbreaking (5, Informative)

zget (2395308) | about 3 years ago | (#36993686)

Ah, such an over sensationalist title and summary again. It makes it sound like the person was arrested for merely jailbreaking PS3. He was a Pakistani man who was copying and selling those copied games and jailbreaking devices.

Various state of the art computers, circumvention software packages, jailbreak USB devices, PS3 consoles as well as hard-drives were seized during the raid. In addition documentation, fake PS2 games and original PS3 games, believed to be employed as master copies, were also seized.

Information is received about a man who in Parktown Jailbreak software loaded on consoles and games sold stolen.

Slashdot at its best.

Re:PS3 jailbreaking (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36993712)

Give timothy a break, he's mildly retarded.

Re:PS3 jailbreaking (3, Funny)

gearloos (816828) | about 3 years ago | (#36993732)

LOL. Timmay!

The Source of Darkies (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36993888)

at least while he's in africa he can say WOW, LOOK AT ALL THE NIGGERS!

AIDS...AIDS everywhere. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36994288)

Timoppy has never been so-near to having sex than around all dem niggaz in Africa. I know there is an island of plastic and latex floating out in the Pacific Ocean off the coast of California, but out in Africa that is known as the Rape Kingdom of the world where every answer in life is rape.

If you are disobedient to your parents: rape.
Are you tresspassing: rape.
Murder someone: rape.
Your town is invaded by a neighboring tribe: rape.
Need to travel to another town by train, then alllllllll-aboard: rape.

Re:PS3 jailbreaking (2, Funny)

sortius_nod (1080919) | about 3 years ago | (#36994108)

hahahaha

TIMMEH!!!!

Re:Virus (1)

xiayou (2316372) | about 3 years ago | (#36994234)

Re:Virus (1)

kakarote (2294232) | about 3 years ago | (#36994268)

h h h h h h h h lolzzz .!!!!!!!

Re:Virus (1)

xeon13 (2268514) | about 3 years ago | (#36994274)

hmm.!!?? new style of laughing..!!! sounds like bollywood actor (KingKhan) i like it ;)

Only this is Africa...moar liek KingDhong. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36994374)

Kidnaps your daughter.
Flagellating a river of AIDS down the ladders.
You are constantly hanging by vines until a break in the flow allows you to progress.
ADL lawyers run at you until you get the secret weapon in the form of pork fat.

Re:PS3 jailbreaking (2)

NoNonAlphaCharsHere (2201864) | about 3 years ago | (#36993904)

In all fairness, it IS a google-translate story:

"This rewrites the PS3's internal veiligheidsprotokols. Stolen games than the PS3's hard drive copied. "

Allers says it is for people who do not take, original games that would pay Jail-break on their consoles loading.

So, "LOL WUT"s all around.

Re:PS3 jailbreaking (3, Insightful)

gman003 (1693318) | about 3 years ago | (#36993746)

Well, when it said they confiscated $14,000 worth of stuff, you can easily deduce that he was jailbreaking at an industrial scale, not a personal one. And honestly, raids against people doing that sort of thing is pretty justifiable.

Re:PS3 jailbreaking (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36993880)

And honestly, raids against people doing that sort of thing is pretty justifiable.

If you sell me a game that's supposed to be original from the publisher, you've committed fraud. If you sell me a game that I know is pirated, there shouldn't be anything illegal about that, even though it's immoral. Remember, the government exists to prevent crime, not sin.

Re:PS3 jailbreaking (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36993936)

Sorry, copyright law still exists. To some extent I agree with... I feel like wanting to have a non-pirated copy is enough and an actual copyright law is probably not needed... but it exists.

Re:PS3 jailbreaking (1, Troll)

gman003 (1693318) | about 3 years ago | (#36993942)

Well, you're working off a set of assumptions I didn't make. For instance, I am of the opinion that piracy performed for a profit should be illegal, while piracy on the individual level should at least be decriminalized, if not legalized.

Think of it this way. If you're pirating something, why should you be giving money to somebody else, who has done nothing to produce the work? That makes no sense to me.

Re:PS3 jailbreaking (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36994018)

Remember, the government exists to prevent crime, not sin.

I'm a long time pirate. I've pirated probably 100 times the media I've paid for. However, profiteering is where I draw my moral line. It's ambiguous, but whatever. If you can't see how profiting by copying and selling someone else's intellectual property should have legal ramifications, then there's no helping you. You're depraved. You may as well start raping mothers and killing babies. I jest, but only just.

Re:PS3 jailbreaking (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36994558)

Agreed, I've pirated quite a large amount of media, but the thing about it is, I still probably buy more legitimate media than the guy who doesn't pirate anything. My steam account has at least 30 - 40 games in it. If there is a good source of digital distribution, I will more than likely get my media from it, but this making things awkward for me by slapping DRM and limited numbers of downloads, clumsy media format or forcing me to install bloatware to be able to make the damn transation. Its about making it easy for the customer, it shouldn't be all about making it awkward for the pirate

You hit the nail on the head about profiteering. With my collection of pirated material, I could easily come into work with DVD's full of media and sell them on to interested parties, but I don't. There is a huge difference between consuming it yourself and selling it on to others. I know myself that I'm NEVER going to pay for some of the terrible games that are out there, but I might want to play them so that I can take part in the discussions of how terrible they actually are. If someone has a problem with me downloading a copy of something that I intend only for my personal use, then they should also have a problem with people who buy second hand games. Both is technically stealing from the publishers/developers

Re:PS3 jailbreaking (1)

metacell (523607) | about 3 years ago | (#36994952)

And that's the result studies on music and filesharing also come up with: the ones who pirate the most are also the ones who spend the most money buying it.

Re:PS3 jailbreaking (1)

guttergod (94044) | about 3 years ago | (#36995840)

Even if we assume you're right in your statement (which incidentally you're not, but you already knew that...) tax evasion is still a crime, and I haven't heard of a single pirate who actually files taxes for that kind of income.

Re:PS3 jailbreaking (2)

Opportunist (166417) | about 3 years ago | (#36995914)

Mmmm... profiting from someone else's work is a crime in my eyes. I just wish it would apply to more than just selling material copyrighted by someone else. But I guess, then a lot of wealthy people would be locked behind bars.

Re:PS3 jailbreaking (1)

pclminion (145572) | about 3 years ago | (#36993896)

Or, they just took every piece of technology in his home whether it was related to this operation or not. Governments seem to like to just steal people's shit these days, call it "evidence gathering" and then never give it back regardless of legal outcome.

Re:PS3 jailbreaking (1)

gman003 (1693318) | about 3 years ago | (#36993956)

True, but do YOU even have $14K in electronics? I don't think I do, unless that ancient Pentium II is a rare collectable model. While it's possible that's the case, it requires an additional set of conditions. Occam's Razor - the simplest explanation is that he was doing it commercially. Later evidence supports that.

Re:PS3 jailbreaking (1)

zget (2395308) | about 3 years ago | (#36994010)

$14k is not that much in electronics. I own desktop computer, an expensive laptop, big HDTV, 360/PS3/Wii, mobile phone, lots of old stuff lying around.. And it's even easier if theres several persons living in the apartment or you have a family. It's not that far-fetched. In fact if you'd start a business (which this kind of counts, even if it was illegal one), the costs are usually much higher.

Re:PS3 jailbreaking (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36994110)

"$14k is not that much in electronics."

Remember, 50-90% depreciation sets in the moment you cut that blister pack!

Re:PS3 jailbreaking (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36995690)

I own Apple stuff. It's often worth more on eBay than I paid for it. Go figure.

Re:PS3 jailbreaking (1)

gman003 (1693318) | about 3 years ago | (#36994136)

Let me calculate mine. Laptop, worth $1200 when I bought it 2 years ago. Wii - $200. Desktop - built from parts, about $600. Spare desktop - salvaged, $100. Most of a desktop - salvaged, $50. Pile of dismantled parts that I'm trying to sell to a metal recycler - $50. 3 TVs, 720p - $400 each. DVD player - $50. DVD/VHS combo player - $50. Old Gamecube - $20. Old GBA SP - $20.

Yeah, that's only up to $3450. That's not everything, exhaustively, but that's the biggest, most expensive ones. The kinds of things you'd confiscate. No way I'm getting up to $14K.

Re:PS3 jailbreaking (1)

JDeane (1402533) | about 3 years ago | (#36994188)

Yeah but police like to confiscate an ounce of weed and claim it has a street value of a bazillion dollars. So they would probably claim that your electronics are worth at least 10X what they really are worth.

Re:PS3 jailbreaking (1)

AK Marc (707885) | about 3 years ago | (#36994482)

What would the list price of the parts in the salvaged desktop be?

Re:PS3 jailbreaking (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36994544)

So you aren't doing so well. I'd not exactly be bragging about this.

Re:PS3 jailbreaking (1, Troll)

AK Marc (707885) | about 3 years ago | (#36994478)

I do. Between the TV, all the phones (three with a sicker price o $1000 or more), the four laptops, the PC (quite the beast, can record HD OTA, and multiple TB of storage media PC that is also a gaming box, if you list its value as the sum of the retail prices of the parts that make it up, it'd likely be $5k or more) and all the gaming consoles, I'm over $14k. Now I feel like updating my home insurance itemization...

A "nerd" that doesn't have over $14k in electronics isn't, and thus this "news for nerds" site isn't for them...

Re:PS3 jailbreaking (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36994714)

I certainly don't have any where near $14000 worth of tech. I have a 2004 computer that sits at my parents place, and a 2006 laptop (updated RAM, HD and battery) that I cart around the world with me.

If I had $14000 worth of anything, there is no way I could cart it around the world. I've lived in five countries, and moved about 7 times in the last five years. You want to me to keep carting around thousands of dollars worth of tech? The travel insurance alone would bankrupt me!

Some people could be called nerds, even if they don't have tech. For whatever the reason they don't have tech (be it no money, young, unemployed etc., traveling a lot, not being a consumerist, etc.).

Re:PS3 jailbreaking (1)

AK Marc (707885) | about 3 years ago | (#36994908)

The last time I moved internationally, the insurance was less than 10% the cost of the move. 10% to protect everything you own isn't that bad, especially if you are having thousands of dollars of electronic gear moving by salty ship. Though most of the small electronics go with you, rather than in the container (phones, laptops, PSP, iPad). Moving internationally is sufficient to bankrupt most people. It's not cheap. Another couple thousand dollars to insure all your worldly posessions isn't a bad proposition.

Some people could be called nerds, even if they don't have tech. For whatever the reason they don't have tech (be it no money, young, unemployed etc., traveling a lot, not being a consumerist, etc.).

Poor nerds will still amass items of their interest. Tech nerds who are young unemployed students will still likely have $10k+ in electronics. Just about everyone I knew in college had above that threshold, whether the Amiga geek that picked up retail price $20,000+ for $50 here and there of Amiga bits, or those that scraped every cent they could to get more hi-fi equipment (and no, not monster cables). For a $50 driver and 100 hours and some scrap wood, you can build a speaker that's better than what you can get in a Best Buy for $1000. That's nerd, and it's cheap nerd. And being cheap nerd quickly adds up to $10k+. You just have to open your eyes and price things as cops who would lie to make you look like a commercial outfit would. The $50 speaker that makes better sound than the $1000 Best Buy speaker will be valued at $2000 or so. The Amiga assembled from $250 in used parts will be valued at $3500 list of the equivelent store-bought system. If you've never done anything like that, then I'd question whether you are a nerd. Since you obviously don't understand how that would even work, I'd question your inteligence, since your argument is "I'm incapable of understanding your argument, so you must be wrong." That seems an absurd position to take.

Re:PS3 jailbreaking (1)

moonbender (547943) | about 3 years ago | (#36995296)

Oh, so you're making up high numbers to support your argument. That's not very nerdy. But I guess since you have license to define words that won't be a problem for long.

Re:PS3 jailbreaking (1)

AK Marc (707885) | about 3 years ago | (#36995370)

So you assert what I am doing without any quotes. What did I define that's "made up" and what authority does it not agree with? I didn't make up anything other than my opinion on the popular definition of "nerd." If you don't like it, provide your own, and I'll address my comments to prove you wrong with your own definitions. I'm guessing you were bluffing and you have nothing more to back up your position than "nuh uh" as that's all you've given so far.

Re:PS3 jailbreaking (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36994738)

I do. Between the TV, all the phones (three with a sicker price o $1000 or more), the four laptops, the PC (quite the beast, can record HD OTA, and multiple TB of storage media PC that is also a gaming box, if you list its value as the sum of the retail prices of the parts that make it up, it'd likely be $5k or more) and all the gaming consoles, I'm over $14k. Now I feel like updating my home insurance itemization...

A "nerd" that doesn't have over $14k in electronics isn't, and thus this "news for nerds" site isn't for them...

Must be nice to have that much money, that you don't even realize that some people cannot afford $14k worth of electronics even if they wanted it.

I find it rather sad that you think Slashdot is only for people who have 'enough' money to qualify for your definition of a 'nerd'.

Re:PS3 jailbreaking (2)

AK Marc (707885) | about 3 years ago | (#36994916)

Lifestyle is about choice. If you pick Big Mac over ramen and a ham radio kit, then you aren't a nerd. A nerd will hoard. A nerd will gather scrap. I had $50,000 in computer equipment gathered from a job with a local megacorp that paid nothing. It was an inventory job where the trash was disposed of into my car (with permisssion). That's how nerds operate. They don't live within their means barely without amassing items of interest. If they do, they aren't nerds. I worked nights for a month as a security guard (yes, such a nerd that the people who saw me in uniform unifomily laughed at a nerd guard). I earned enough for a decent stereoA/V setup. That's what nerds do. They don't sit around wishing they had more money for the latest gadget and no doing anything about it but getting on slashdot and defending lazy nerds everywhere.

Re:PS3 jailbreaking (2)

Aeiri (713218) | about 3 years ago | (#36995496)

I can't believe someone actually said "if you don't have this much money, you aren't a nerd". A $50 toaster running BSD is enough to disprove that.

Re:PS3 jailbreaking (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36995138)

He could quite easily have been running a legitimate repair business and had that much in spares/equipment/repaired stock. From TFA it doesn't sound like that was the case, but when dealing with companies with a history as bad as Sony's, I'm more inclined to give the guy the benefit of the doubt.

Re:PS3 jailbreaking (1)

Overzeetop (214511) | about 3 years ago | (#36995698)

I've got a plotter ($15k) a copier ($14k) in my home office. Does that count?

Re:PS3 jailbreaking (1)

Opportunist (166417) | about 3 years ago | (#36996018)

Depends. Current value or price at the time of purchase?

Given that the police certainly wanted it to sound like they're arresting some bigshot criminal, I'd guess they simply took the price at the time of purchase. And I'm fairly sure that EVERY geek has electronics that come up to about 14k when you consider the dough they had to drop on the table for it. Let's see what we have here...

Server: $6100
Computers: $2200, $2500, $1900
Laptop: $2300
Screens: 3x430=1290
TV: $2100

And we're already way beyond $14000. Without consoles, media, various addons and tidbits like programmable keyboards and mice, thumbdrives, external hard drives and spare parts.

Is that what you'd get for my stuff if you broke in here and snatched it? Not likely. The server is an old P4/500 with 1TB space and an ancient RAID 6 controller. Unless you somehow manage to break the encryption and find someone to sell my research data to, the metal value is closer to about 500 bucks, if that. Aside of one computer and the laptop, all the rest is worth pennies since these machines are ancient as well. The screens may have some value (if you get off the nicotine stains somehow, good luck!) and that TV might still fetch 300 bucks.

Electronics lose value faster than cars. So whether these 14k bucks is a lot or very little depends on what value they tacked to the items.

Re:PS3 jailbreaking (1)

cheekyjohnson (1873388) | about 3 years ago | (#36994052)

And honestly, raids against people doing that sort of thing is pretty justifiable.

Justifiable? Well, maybe to you.

Re:PS3 jailbreaking (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36994216)

raids against people doing that sort of thing is pretty justifiable.

No there are not.

Information protection rackets should not be the domain of the police.

Re:PS3 jailbreaking (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36994824)

Well, when it said they confiscated $14,000 worth of stuff, you can easily deduce that he was jailbreaking at an industrial scale, not a personal one.

$14,000? wouldn't that be,like, only a fraction of an infringing mp3 or something?

Re:PS3 jailbreaking (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36993766)

Various state of the art computers, circumvention software packages, jailbreak USB devices, PS3 consoles as well as hard-drives were seized during the raid. In addition documentation, fake PS2 games and original PS3 games, believed to be employed as master copies, were also seized.

The only thing that should be of interest in the lengthy list of seized items is the "fake PS2 games". The rest shouldn't raise any eyebrows.

Niggers swatting Sand-niggers. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36993808)

I don't know whom to cheer for. It's like comparing the progenetors of AIDS and (Zimbabwe) currency Inflation to the the progenetors of Law Merchants and Harrem rape-rooms.

Re:PS3 jailbreaking (2)

westlake (615356) | about 3 years ago | (#36993834)

Ah, such an over sensationalist title and summary again.

It happens whenever a geek is arrested for a white-collar crime. Apparently, the police are supposed to look the other way.

Gotta figure it happened to a sexy African nigger (-1)

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Re:some perspective for you (1)

thegarbz (1787294) | about 3 years ago | (#36994070)

Slashdot at its best.

You shrug this off, yet what we see here is a case where a country's police are corrupt enough to completely turn a blind eye to infringement of traffic laws, are incapable of controlling basic criminal actions (South Africa has the second highest murder rate per capita, and first highest rape rate), and let things get to the extent that car jacking is so common place that insurance of cars is very expensive.

Yet they bust a guy for copyright infringement.

The reality is he just paid them less than the record industry. Maybe that puts his crime into perspective for you. Had this happened in any country I'd be right by your side accusing Slashdot of its usual bias, but really the South African Police should have lots of things far higher on their priority list.

Re:some perspective for you (3, Informative)

zget (2395308) | about 3 years ago | (#36994150)

turn a blind eye to infringement of traffic laws

For some reason (or maybe because I've lived in Asia, where traffic is chaotic but everyone seems to get by), I think that a guy making huge profit by selling pirated software is a little bit higher on the list than cops spending their time sitting on road.

And even if you don't, these are different police organizations. Every time when someone pirating something gets arrested there's always someone saying that police should have priorities and should spend time on something else. These are not the same policemen. If they work on other crimes it's not off from from your casual everyday street police.

Re:some perspective for you (1)

thegarbz (1787294) | about 3 years ago | (#36994650)

I use "Police" in the general case. The overall policing of the country should have different priorities. I use it in the same context as the USA should provide less funding to DHS and more funding to local PDs.

Also I'm not sure which Asian country you're referring to but there's different levels of traffic infringement. There's your speeders, and then there's your people who show a complete disregard for what a red light means or which side of the road you should be driving on.

South Africa had double the road fatalities per capita per year than China which itself is already 1.5 times the number of the USA. Sure there are standout countries, but if you look by region you're far more likely to die in a road accident in Africa than in Asia.

Re:some perspective for you (1)

loufoque (1400831) | about 3 years ago | (#36994778)

Making profit jailbreaking other people's PS3 is not illegal at all, unless Sony has managed to corrupt laws so much that you're not allowed to modify hardware that you own.

It is indeed very profitable, you just have to find how to do it on the web.

Re:some perspective for you (1)

1u3hr (530656) | about 3 years ago | (#36995056)

For some reason (or maybe because I've lived in Asia, where traffic is chaotic but everyone seems to get by),

Where "get by" meaning "get killed". Death rates from road accidents are much, much higher in Asia than Europe or US..

Re:some perspective for you (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36994588)

So by this argument, the SAPS should not work on any crime other than murder. Once that is under control perhaps they will be allowed to look at rape. Eventually after a few years perhaps they will have worked their way down the priority list to theft ?

Re:some perspective for you (1)

inasity_rules (1110095) | about 3 years ago | (#36995386)

You shrug this off, yet what we see here is a case where a country's police are corrupt enough to completely turn a blind eye to infringement of traffic laws, are incapable of controlling basic criminal actions (South Africa has the second highest murder rate per capita, and first highest rape rate), and let things get to the extent that car jacking is so common place that insurance of cars is very expensive.

Actually, insuring cars here is mostly expensive because 3rd party insurance is not mandatory here, so if you're involved in an accident that is not your fault, your insurance company probably won't get its money back... And the hijacking, but that has a much smaller effect than you'd think.

Re:some perspective for you (1)

inasity_rules (1110095) | about 3 years ago | (#36995396)

(And additionally, if the police are ignoring traffic infringements, I have yet to see it. The fines can be quite hefty.)

Re:PS3 jailbreaking (1)

t_ban (875088) | about 3 years ago | (#36994342)

He was a Pakistani man who was copying and selling those copied games and jailbreaking devices.
[...]
Slashdot at its best.

Your justification includes the fact that he is Pakistani?

Racism at its worst.

Re:PS3 jailbreaking (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36994376)

This.

I know, who cares what an anonymous coward has to say - but what does the fact that he is Pakistani have to do with any of this? Last I checked, there were quite a few people from the Indian subcontinent in Africa; heck, Ghandi was in South Africa back in his day too.

I wouldn't go as far as to say you are racist - you may just be a right wing "Religion of peace!!!!1!" asshole who will turn around and praise the "holy warriors" when it fits your political whim.

Re:PS3 jailbreaking (1)

zget (2395308) | about 3 years ago | (#36995008)

I was just pointing out he wasn't even local. And since when is Pakistan a race?

Re:PS3 jailbreaking (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36995024)

Short answer, yes. No one likes pakis. A paki in jail is one paki less I (may) have to see.

Re:PS3 jailbreaking (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36995048)

He was a Pakistani man

The gall!

Re:PS3 jailbreaking (1)

Barefoot Monkey (1657313) | about 3 years ago | (#36995122)

Thank you for that. I thought the summary seemed bizarre - since when do we have laws against jailbreaking, and doesn't SAFACT normally focus on stopping sale of unauthorised duplicates? It's nice to see that things are despite Slashdot headlines things are actually working the way they should.

Re:PS3 jailbreaking (1)

williambbertram (958094) | about 3 years ago | (#36995360)

I'll just disregard the less interesting story, and respond to the sensationalist title then. :)

YOU BUY IT, IT BELONGS TO YOU RIGHT????? Just joking.

PS3 Jailbreaking (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36993724)

I hope it will not take 26 years for him to be elected President.

Excellent! (0)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about 3 years ago | (#36993744)

Sounds like South Africa's crime problem is good and cleared up. Maybe if they can arrest someone from 4chan the place will finally be safer than the more tepid warzones of the world...

Re:Excellent! (1)

MightyMartian (840721) | about 3 years ago | (#36993760)

No fucking shit. Reading this I thought "Wow, South Africa has cops sufficient to start helping some multi-national who buggers with their fucking game console."

Re:Excellent! (1)

mjwx (966435) | about 3 years ago | (#36993810)

Sounds like South Africa's crime problem is good and cleared up. Maybe if they can arrest someone from 4chan the place will finally be safer than the more tepid warzones of the world...

FTA:

The police confiscated goods of around R100 000 (14000 USD).

Coppers have to eat you know, China, street thugs don't earn that much.

(probably US$15,000 now with the way the USD is going).

Re:Excellent! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36994310)

Sounds like South Africa's crime problem is good and cleared up. Maybe if they can arrest someone from 4chan the place will finally be safer than the more tepid warzones of the world...

Not quite, I live in South Africa, and the cops are absolutly useless...infact earlier this week, there was a news article, where the cops said they are too affraid to arrest violent criminals. So what happens? They target the "easy" criminals and ignore the real problem.

Re:Excellent! (1)

blarghmaster (2252372) | about 3 years ago | (#36994534)

*coff coff* kafir taxis *coff*

Who's at the door? (2)

devnullkac (223246) | about 3 years ago | (#36993768)

That's SAFACT, Jack!

Re:Who's at the door? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36993986)

I was waiting for _someone_ to make a joke 'bout that!

Re:Who's at the door? (1)

AHuxley (892839) | about 3 years ago | (#36994006)

vs say the green boots of Koevoet.

The war on information continues... (0, Troll)

mykos (1627575) | about 3 years ago | (#36993800)

With any luck, we might look back in 50 years and laugh (or rage) at the idea that corporations thought that information could be controlled and owned, that we threw some of our brightest people in prison to rot for spreading that information, regardless of whether or not the spreading was for profit.

If people can make money off their ideas, then more power to 'em. But the monopolization of thought is going to cost humanity big time in the long term.

Re:The war on information continues... (0)

bky1701 (979071) | about 3 years ago | (#36993822)

Completely agreed. I just posted similar on the last topic about patents - but it is worth saying here as well:

Eventually we will look back on copyright and patents like we now do on slavery. Slavery, too, was an important part of our economy, which was utterly immoral, and many understood it was wrong. Slavery just happens to have been a LOT worse. However, it will happen to copyright/patents, too. Then we can get on with society without their shackles.

Re:The war on information continues... (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36993842)

You know, originally when the printing press came out people were getting in trouble for printing the bible. http://www.greatsite.com/timeline-english-bible-history/

Re:The war on information continues... (1)

gottspeed (2060872) | about 3 years ago | (#36993870)

Its safe for me to say that the monopolization of thought occurred a long time ago. The public, statistically at least has had its mind decorated for long enough that almost anything that happens, or any 'new' information that becomes available evokes a predetermined and self destructive response. I think its called disillusionment or demoralization; One or the other. To say that the cost to humanity so far is staggering, is a weapons-grade understatement.

Re:The war on information continues... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36994176)

Or we could look back and see a history of lawless times where content owners were robbed blind of their rightful profits by evil pirates and be glad that our iWalledGarden explicitly prevents any piracy-friendly software from running so that our children don't accidentally steal copyrighted content by copying it.

Re:The war on information continues... (1, Insightful)

shentino (1139071) | about 3 years ago | (#36994256)

In the long run the greedy fucks benefitting from the thought monopoly will have long since laughed all the way to the bank, lived high on the hog, and left a big fat corpse.

They do not CARE about the long term for humanity.

Re:The war on information continues... (2)

JockTroll (996521) | about 3 years ago | (#36994492)

Forget luck. Unless action is taken, in 50 years we will look back and marvel at the idea that there was a time when information was NOT controlled.

Re:The war on information continues... (1)

turing_m (1030530) | about 3 years ago | (#36996060)

It seems to be heading that way. OTOH, the sneakernet of 2060 may well consist of transmitting every intellectual work that has existed to date (including video form) on something like a USB stick. (Yes I know, we'll probably hit physical limits before then.)

Question (4, Insightful)

msobkow (48369) | about 3 years ago | (#36994798)

What has theoretical freedom of ideas have to do with a full-scale commercial piracy operation?

Re:Question (3, Insightful)

westlake (615356) | about 3 years ago | (#36995116)

What has theoretical freedom of ideas have to do with a full-scale commercial piracy operation?

Nothing whatever.

Which shows how impoverished and fraudulent these cries for "Freedom!" have become.

P2P is the geek's middle class entitlement. Nothing more. The investment in tech and services required makes that plain. The AAA game demands AAA hardware.

Playing the pirated HD video on the 60" screen doesn't make you a hero.

It makes you a thief.

Re:Question (0)

garcia (6573) | about 3 years ago | (#36995430)

Playing the pirated HD video on the 60" screen doesn't make you a hero.

It makes you a thief.

No, it makes you an infringer of copyright (aka 'pirate'). Please stop confusing infringement of copyright with theft as that is exactly what the copyright holders want you to do.

Jailbreaking is against the law (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36993934)

The guy is guilty.
http://websiteandtraffic.blogspot.com

http://howtowebsitetraffic.blogspot.com

http://bestweightlossdietsthatwork.blogspot.com/

http://peoplesearchstore.blogspot.com/

http://peoplesearchmarket.blogspot.com

Obvious defence... (1)

lewko (195646) | about 3 years ago | (#36994172)

Diplomatic Immunity...

Re:Obvious defence... (1)

MaxBooger (1877454) | about 3 years ago | (#36994526)

*BLAM!* Has just been revoked.

Good to see... (1)

__Paul__ (1570) | about 3 years ago | (#36994182)

...that the South African police are arresting real criminals instead of the murderers and rapists that are normally oppressed by law-enforcement over there.

PS3 jailbreaker arrested (1)

CurryCamel (2265886) | about 3 years ago | (#36994246)

Or PS3 games pirate arrested?

Luckily I am on MFW 3.55, which isn't jailbroken, just slightly opened up. (Or so at least they tell me on IRC.) That means I am safe, right?

Meanwhile... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36994254)

Warlords and murderers and slave laborers roam free.

Good to know they have their priorities straight. The peasents are safe!

So... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36994258)

Why didn't sony just have him killed?

It is south africa after all. These things happen.

Killing a little too scummy for sony? I find that hard to believe really.

uhh... (1)

chibiskuld (907068) | about 3 years ago | (#36994312)

Someone stole their copyright?

frist st0p (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36994644)

everyHday...We ttok precedence

As a South African (3, Informative)

Mortimer82 (746766) | about 3 years ago | (#36995172)

What the person was doing was illegal and deserves to be punished to the full extent of the law, as they were profiting off other people's work by copying it and then selling it.

However, pirated media *thrives* in a place like South African because luxury goods like imported media is over priced for that economy.

Although certain aspects of South Africa are 3rd world, all the major cities are pretty much first world, as someone presently living in Ireland, and having lived in France, I can tell you that for the middle class South African, their life style isn't radically different, but any luxury item is significantly more expensive relatively speaking.

Salaries are based on the price of living, and in South Africa the price of living is considerably less than places like the the US or UK. To put it in perspective, as per 12 months ago (http://www.oanda.com/currency/big-mac-index), the price of a big mac in USD was $2.70 compared to it costing $3.73 is the US. The cost of living is very much like this, most day to day things cost less, consequently, salaries work the same way, you get paid a bit less in terms of USD, because your money goes further, however, anything luxury, is prices in USD and then converted into the local currency.

So, relatively speaking, for our salaries, we pay a lot more for things like software, music CDs and movies. It's also not just luxury goods, business is also expensive, imagine your copy of Microsoft or Adobe software package always costing ~30% more? Thus it's hardly surprising to see so many people turn to cheaper, but illegal avenues.

Copyright holders annoy me greatly because even though we have this global distribution medium called the internet which should really make borders disappear to all intents and purposes, you still get youtube blocking videos because "this content is not available in your region due to copyright issues" and Netflix can't be used outside the US, however, despite them locking down copyrighted work to regions, they still keep the price of the these works the same in all countries, regardless of economic differences. They then get surprised at the lack of loyalty from their "customers", however, in South African, they're more like "suckers".

Re:As a South African (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36995898)

Do the elephants really play on the Playstation in Africa?

Re:As a South African (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36996042)

When I was there (5 months), I got the impression an upper middle class South African has a higher standard of living than an upper middle class American because domestic help and food and luxury restaurants and cost of constructing expensive homes and security and things of that nature are cheaper because a lot of prices are intentionally lower to help the vast struggling lower class in SA. But imported high tech items and cars do cost more because pay is lower on an international scale.
I think I am backing up what you said, but you know how it is on /. ..tl/dr.

Re:As a South African (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36996074)

This is why we *need* to pirate the shit out of them, and we will.

Coming soon to a United States near you... (1)

Lumpy (12016) | about 3 years ago | (#36995392)

"South African Police Service's Commercial Crime Unit"

You just wait, this special task force will EXIST in the USA soon. Right now they are using the Immigrations and Customs department to do this, but they will soon fund a Commercials Crimes Special Task force to enforce and arrest people that violate the rights of the precious corporations...

Boycott Sony (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#36995542)

And this is what you get for buying a Sony product or service. They sue their own customers.

Re:Boycott Sony (1)

Ash-Fox (726320) | about 3 years ago | (#36996682)

And this is what you get for hacking a Sony product or service.

There, fixed it for you.

aha! (1)

hesaigo999ca (786966) | about 3 years ago | (#36995758)

This is where you see Sony is paying off for information and for police help in this matter.
A police raid of this nature, followed with all the wire taps necessary to get a warrant to bust in, costs way more then just 14,000$, unless there is major copyright issues or murder, there will be no raids of this size on low end criminals....these are reserved for much bigger fish financially speaking.

The fact that they went after such a small potato means Sony was probably footing the bill to get this guy arrested. Sony sucks the big one.....sorry.
I wont be rushing to buy any sony products now for sure...

Spokesman for SAFACT (1)

jamiesan (715069) | about 3 years ago | (#36996230)

That's SAFACT Jack.
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