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Breaking the Codes In Oslo Terrorist's Manifesto

timothy posted more than 2 years ago | from the bad-movie-plots-seethe-in-the-background dept.

Crime 231

repvik writes "The 1500-page manifesto of the terrorist who killed 77 people in Oslo and on Utøya two weeks ago contains a series of seemingly encrypted URLs. There are 46 of them, and the initial part of the URLs appear to be GPS coordinates. An effort to analyze the codes have been launched."

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inevitably (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37012016)

they all lead to goatse

Re:inevitably (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37012172)

All URLs lead to goatse just as all roads lead to Rome.

Re:inevitably (2)

Sun (104778) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012344)

All URLs lead to goatse just as all Wikipedia links lead to "philosophy"

There, fixed it for you.

Re:inevitably (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37012824)

Only since idiot xkcd fanboys [photobucket.com] read the strip which declared it and now change every page which someone has pointed out doesn't comply.

Re:inevitably (1)

Dunbal (464142) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012930)

No, some of them lead to Rick Astley.

Also, crack the codes, win a free trip to Norway as an "expert witness" amirite?

Why is this being made public? (1, Interesting)

Music2Eat (1878664) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012026)

Why is this being made public? If this points to conspirator's or other sensitive information, shouldn't this have been quietly handed to the police so that they don't tip their hand?

Re:Why is this being made public? (5, Informative)

jeffasselin (566598) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012054)

The alleged perpetrator of the terrorist attack posted the manifesto online himself before going on his rampage, and everything in there is on the internet and people have been reading and analyzing it since.

Re:Why is this being made public? (1)

Music2Eat (1878664) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012062)

I'm not questioning why the manifesto was made public, but why people would go public with the fact they may be onto hidden information contained within that manifesto.

Re:Why is this being made public? (4, Insightful)

Mr. Freeman (933986) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012200)

Because anyone who is going to use this information to do harm already knows it. The thing people seem to forget whenever something scary happens is that the "bad guys" aren't stupid. Terrorists know how to use a computer. It's better that everyone knows the information so that everyone can use it to prevent whatever attack it might indicate.

The two choices are NOT:
1. Keep the information secret and the bad guys will never find it
2. Release the information and the bad guys will use it to do bad things

The choices ARE:
1. Keep the information secret and everyone is caught with their pants down when the bad guys, who figured all this out on their own, do bad things.
2. Tell everyone the information so that any Tom, Dick, and Harry knows what the bad guys are going to do and they can take appropriate measures.

Re:Why is this being made public? (5, Informative)

physicsphairy (720718) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012720)

Your points remind me of a fortune I read recently:

"A commercial, and in some respects a social, doubt has been started within the
  last year or two, whether or not it is right to discuss so openly the security
  or insecurity of locks. Many well-meaning persons suppose that the discus-
  sion respecting the means for baffling the supposed safety of locks offers a
  premium for dishonesty, by showing others how to be dishonest. This is a fal-
  lacy. Rogues are very keen in their profession, and already know much more
  than we can teach them respecting their several kinds of roguery. Rogues knew
  a good deal about lockpicking long before locksmiths discussed it among them-
  selves, as they have lately done. If a lock -- let it have been made in what-
  ever country, or by whatever maker -- is not so inviolable as it has hitherto
  been deemed to be, surely it is in the interest of *honest* persons to know
  this fact, because the *dishonest* are tolerably certain to be the first to
  apply the knowledge practically; and the spread of knowledge is necessary to
  give fair play to those who might suffer by ignorance. It cannot be too ear-
  nestly urged, that an acquaintance with real facts will, in the end, be better
  for all parties."
-- Charles Tomlinson's Rudimentary Treatise on the Construction of Locks,
      published around 1850

Re:Why is this being made public? (2)

Hazel Bergeron (2015538) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012830)

I wish people still expressed themselves with such eloquence. This used to be one of the first skills taught to a young gentleman - now it is rarely taught at all.

Perhaps the problem is lack of gentlemen (and ladies).

Re:Why is this being made public? (1)

myurr (468709) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012738)

I actually mostly agree with you but there is another scenario. Keep the information secret so that the bad guys don't know that you know.

Re:Why is this being made public? (1)

Vinegar Joe (998110) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012972)

Keep the information secret so that the bad guys don't know that you know.

Julian Assange amd Wikileaks might disagree with you on that.

Re:Why is this being made public? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37013002)

oh, god! He's channeling Donald Rumsfeld (known unknowns, unknown unknowns...)

Re:Why is this being made public? (1)

ravenshrike (808508) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012850)

The thing people seem to forget whenever something scary happens is that some "bad guys" aren't stupid. .

FTFY..

Re:Why is this being made public? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37012886)

You're missing a key point in basic police work though:

Unreleased information can be used to positively identify collaborators. Either by asking them to recount details never made available to the public, or by laying a trap by which they inadvertantly out themselves.

It's sort of like when someone goes to claim a lost cell phone from the lost-and-found desk. I the person just says I uh... lost a phone, can you show me the ones you guys have, they might just be phishing for a free phone. But if you make them describe their lost phone, by providing distinctive details like make, model, color, and perhaps distunguishing accessories or markings like cases, face-plates and stickers, before showing them anything (or maybe have them make it ring, or unlock it in front of you, if the battery's on and there's a signal), then you know your returning it to the rightful owner.

Only collaborators would have been most likely to repeatedly access the content or make use of those URLs, butnow, any visits after today, could literally be anyone. Additionally, if someone is suspected, and a confession is not forth-coming, it can no longer be said that a suspect is implicated if there is any involvement of thoseurls with their activity.

Keeping them secret isn't so much about protecting people from booby traps, or ambushing a suspect at a location. Stakeouts and wiretaps would have been the more likely opportunities for use but involve a cost/benefit analysis against release of the information.Which is probably what lead to it's release.

Re:Why is this being made public? (1)

flimflammer (956759) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012254)

Why not? Anyone who wants the information for nefarious purposes would already have it.

Re:Why is this being made public? (2)

Runaway1956 (1322357) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012410)

You seem to be making an assumption, that the "authorities" have released this information. If I were to research that possibility, I may very well find that your apparent assumption is correct. However, when I read TFS and TFA, I see no such indications. Unless you are familiar with the author, and/or the website(s) involved, I can't see that your assumption is warranted.

What I believe has happened is, some pretty sharp people have read that manifesto, and some random people noticed what looks like an encryption scheme. Some of those people may or may not be acting in some "official" capacity - or not. It's quite possible that the governments and/or authorities failed to notice any encryption scheme used in the manifesto.

I'll confess that I read over the manifesto, and I tried to use the "links". It never occurred to my feeble mind that those links might represent anything other than outdated links. And, of course, I'm a bit lazy - I never searched for alternative routes to those links, or searched the wayback machine, or anything else to resolve what those dead links might represent.

Based on my own limited, personal experience - they don't even LOOK like encryption, so I would NEVER have started looking for ideas, without prompting from someone else. Of course, I'm no cryptographer. Codes tend to kick my ass, no matter how simple.

Re:Why is this being made public? (2)

PCM2 (4486) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012452)

The weird URLs are hidden in with the regular URLs. I never tried to click on any of the URLs, so I never even noticed it before it was mentioned here. There are spots in the manifesto where he will have a "references" section, with a list of URLs, numbered 1-26 or whatever. Only there's two #13's -- the first one is the real reference 13, and the second one is one of these weird URLs (which technically aren't URLs at all, because they don't seem to use any known addressing scheme). So they are not only obscured or obfuscated in some way, but they are also deliberately hidden in the document, presumably to be discovered by somebody at some time.

Re:Why is this being made public? (4, Informative)

Ironhandx (1762146) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012058)

Most likely its being made public just in case this is some sort of instruction system for various cells.

I imagine the reasoning behind it is to let anyone who might be thinking of following the instructions know that they're onto the fact that there is something here.

There is also benefit to crowd sourcing it this way in that someone may have been involved and may be able to use "figuring out the code" as an excuse without incriminating themselves to come forward and help prevent whatever these codes may set into motion.

Keeping it secret and trying to solve it with limited resources isn't going to do much good. So, rather than being idiots, they've taken the logical route.

The goal here is to prevent any further atrocities. They may not catch the cells this way, but they may dissuade them from acting at all, or they may catch a guilty conscience that helps solve the whole thing for them rapidly.

If the whole point is saving lives, then I feel, as they obviously do, that this is the best way to go about it.

Re:Why is this being made public? (2)

Music2Eat (1878664) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012128)

Except, instead of dissuade them, it would more likely force them to speed up their plans. You really think crowd sourcing this would get better/quicker results then the dedicate code breakers at some place like the FBI or MI6? You really think, "possibly", dissuading them is better then actually catching them?

Re:Why is this being made public? (4, Insightful)

cgenman (325138) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012176)

Considering the FBI and MI6 don't have jurisdiction in Oslo, very probably.

Also, why would terrorist cells communicate via secret text in 1,500 page manifestos? It just doesn't make any sense. Encode some data into witty photos posted on Reddit photoshop contests. Mix some in torrents. Or, gasp, talk to people. Let's be honest here, most terrorists don't communicate by massively arcane technological methods. Most just talk on forums, make phone calls, or chat through chat programs.

Anything embedded secretly in a 1500 page highly public manifesto is basically advertising intended to keep people excited and talking about the manifesto. And at that, the nutjob wins. But the idea of some form of meaningful project-based communication between terrorists happening secretly via 1500 page manifestos is ascribing a degree of power to them that I personally have trouble stomaching.

Re:Why is this being made public? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37012866)

I don't know about MI6 but the FBI has jurisdiction everywhere.

Re:Why is this being made public? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37013054)

OT, FYI, IIRC: The FBI are a domestic police force and MI6 are foreign intelligence/espionage/counter-espionage. I'm pretty sure the real opposite of the FBI in the UK is MI5 (or maybe special-branch) and the opposite of MI6 in the U.S. is CIA. That aside, the more dedicated code-breakers on both sides would be the NSA in America and GCHQ in the UK surely? All orgnaisations likely have some code-breakers, of course, but if it's *really* hard, those two are the ones best set up to tackle it.

Re:Why is this being made public? (4, Interesting)

Ethanol-fueled (1125189) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012156)

Most likely its being made public just in case this is some sort of instruction system for various cells.

By that admission, the Christians running the Western governments are as dangerous as the so-called "terrorists" they demonize in Rupert Murdoch's media.

In other words, not only are Christians idiots, but easily manipulated idiots in high places with the power to influence what people do with their lives. That's why larger and larger numbers of people are seeing them for what they really are -- idiots. The party of "can't do." You can't enjoy premarital sex. Marginalize homosexuals. You can't do this, you can't do that, or else you're going to hell. Which proves many times over what people from civilized countries have been saying about us the whole time: Americans are fucking morons. Put off that stem-cell research, god (as interpreted by half-ass churches) doesn't want humans to live.

Fuck you, assholes.

Re:Why is this being made public? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37012302)

I agree. Can't wait to read the next 1499 pages on your blog!

Re:Why is this being made public? (1)

Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012184)

Most likely its being made public just in case this is some sort of instruction system for various cells.

Bullshit. Utterly uninformed, speculative, fear-mongering bullshit.

It's being "made public" because Breivik emailed his manifesto, including all of the codes, to over 1,000 people [guardian.co.uk] on the day of his attacks.

That's it. No grand plan by the government to roust other cells through the threat of code-breaking. Just a bunch of people who downloaded a copy of the manifesto just like anyone else in the world could do if they so wanted.

I'm all for a good conspiracy theory but, damn, at least do some basic research before starting in on the wild ass stories.

Re:Why is this being made public? (1)

cathector (972646) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012350)

cells ? what cells. you say it like it's a fact, but it's a speculation at best. sure, there may be accomplices. but "they may not catch the cells" ? what source of info are you privy to ?

Re:Why is this being made public? (1)

Urkki (668283) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012348)

shouldn't this have been quietly handed to the police so that they don't tip their hand?

How would one go about quietly handing this kind of info to the police so, that anybody there would give rats ass about it?

Re:Why is this being made public? (1)

Dunbal (464142) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012958)

Tip their hand? There's pretty good "smoking gun" evidence considering he was seen shooting people, filmed shooting people, left many survivors who can identify him, was arrested at the scene and also admitted to doing it. The trial is pretty much a formality at this point. You know that the concept of "innocent until proven guilty" should not erase your ability to think. The "police" or the prosecutor would have to work very hard indeed to destroy the case against this man.

Manifest? (1)

DriedClexler (814907) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012034)

The 1500 page manifest of terrorist

Wow, that must be a lot of terrorists if it takes a 1500 page manifest to list them all!

Re:Manifest? (2)

camperdave (969942) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012216)

... and remember, that's just Manifest O. There's 25 other letters in the alphabet.

Re:Manifest? (1)

LynnwoodRooster (966895) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012406)

Actually, there are 29 letters [wikipedia.org] in the Norwegian alphabet - therefore there are 28 more manifestos to concern ourselves with.

Re:Manifest? (1)

PCM2 (4486) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012456)

Ah, but the manifest[o] was entirely in English. (Interestingly enough, I thought.)

Re:Manifest? (1)

arth1 (260657) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012670)

For generous values of "entirely".. There are a couple of "Norwegianisms", and, of course, the last two letters of the URLs we discuss here are in Cyrillic (Serbian variety).
From what I can guess, these two letters denote a number, in a variety of the Cyrillic number system.

has (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37012048)

"an effort to analyse the codes ***HAS*** been launched"

Grammar people, come on....

Cut to the chase (-1)

Dan East (318230) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012110)

Sheesh, don't bother going to the trouble. You've got the killer, just try a little waterboarding and save the time and money.

Re:Cut to the chase (5, Insightful)

arth1 (260657) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012726)

Sheesh, don't bother going to the trouble. You've got the killer, just try a little waterboarding and save the time and money.

That is not the Norwegian way. Norwegians are a people of honor, who won't stoop to the level of the evildoers in order to fight evil. The reaction to the deed was one of sorrow, reflection and (and this is hard to understand for outsiders) love and openness instead of hatred and retaliation. In the days after the attack, the prime minister and mayor of Oslo walked around in public with less protection than before, precisely to show that the terrorist would not win by changing Norway for the worse.
In polls, Norwegians are overwhelmingly against the death penalty, torture and revenge, and more so now after the UtÃya tragedy. Norwegians want to distance themselves from everything the perpetrator stood for, and retaliate by doing the opposite of what Mr Breivik thought he would achieve.
The great majority of Norwegians want him to have the same rights as any other accused, and be judged and sentenced for what he did in a fair trial, and not risk jeopardizing justice by the police overstepping their limits. If the police can torture Mr Breivik today, they can torture you tomorrow. Punish him by exposing him to a fairness he never showed others. He will have plenty of time to reflect on how what he did hurt his cause, due to Norwegians being Norwegians, and not Americans.

Re:Cut to the chase (2)

ravenshrike (808508) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012864)

Well, except for all those calling for more gun control, even though given how methodical this ratfucker was all the gun laws in the world wouldn't have changed the outcome. Although to be fair from what I've found on the matter more calls for increased gun control seem to be coming from Sweden than Norway, which is rather amusing.

HTTP added by wordprocessor (3, Interesting)

Dan East (318230) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012124)

My guess is that when he entered strings like this into his wordprocessor
52.068.4.309plusf24:KWimfhh436383717863

That it interpreted the numbers as IPv4 addresses and prepended http:/// [http] onto it. If someone can verify then that part of the "mystery" is solved. It has nothing to do with URLs.

Re:HTTP added by wordprocessor (4, Informative)

PCM2 (4486) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012152)

Good theory, so I just checked in Word. It will automatically hyperlink a DNS-looking URL, but it will not automatically hyperlink a numeric address. Also, although you don't need to type the http:/// [http] Word just applies the correct hyperlink as a style; it does not add the http:/// [http] to the text you typed.

Re:HTTP added by wordprocessor (1)

Z00L00K (682162) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012654)

And another factor is that the geographic locations listed in the manifesto may just be approximate, or just pointing to a keyword that points to the real target or information source.

But it's interesting that the position in Gothenburg, Sweden points to a block containing a movie theater and the location in Vienna isn't far from the Scientologists there.

And it can also be meeting locations agreed upon for different potential contacts or mailbox drops.

Or it's just a few random locations to threw the investigation off track.

Why give it the time? (4, Informative)

Nyder (754090) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012134)

Here's the problem:

If i had a grudge against humans, or a certain set of humans, or something really stupid like that and I wanted to do something that will get me remembered, for whatever reason, in the history of man, I'd do some crap just like this. Make up a "manifesto" of probably gibberish, encyrpted and whatnot, so peeps would spend many hours of discussion and get me remembered.

So do we think we'll get a better understanding of the dude who killed those people by figuring out his stupid manifesto? And that will help his victims how exactly? I mean, i'm sure their families are probably helping figure this manifesto out and twitting it to all their friends. (yes, i'm being fucking sarcastic here).

Crazy people are, well, crazy. It doesn't matter their reason for doing stuff like killing people. That shit ain't cool, and shouldn't be going on, no matter the reason. But very little we will do, will stop the crazies from doing the crazy shit.

Sometimes there are signs, and sometime we recognize crazy before crazy gets killing. But most the time, we don't. We don't realize that crazy is just under the skin of that person we talk shit to all the time. We don't realize that everyone has crazy in them, and sometimes, the littlest things set crazy off.

Of course, i could be wrong. This murder might have the answer to life, the universe and everything in his manifesto. And even if it did, it's not worth our time trying to find out. Dude went out and killed a bunch of people to get attention for his manifesto and here people are, giving it attention.

what dude did worked, and your showing that to every wanna be "terrorist" with a grudge against something and a chip on their shoulder, that if you want attention, kill some peeps and you'll get it.

Re:Why give it the time? (1)

cathector (972646) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012274)

+1.
we should not give the manifesto of a failure of humanity the time of day.
this is obvious.
w/r/t the folks trying to decode locations and messages in the document, i can only presume that they're acting with the idea that perhaps Nutzo has accomplices or has already planted bombs in those locations or etc, and are working to prevent further killing. if there's evidence in that direction, then great. but if not then it seems like maybe another case of us technically-minded folks getting obsessed with solving a technical problem without pausing to consider whether it's good work to be doing in the bigger picture.

Re:Why give it the time? (1)

jamesh (87723) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012376)

we should not give the manifesto of a failure of humanity the time of day.

IMHO, such a document could give an insight into what went wrong here. Was the guy just crazy? Did something happen in his life that made him this way or was he going to go off the rails no matter what? Was he brainwashed by some cult? What, if anything, could have been done differently to make sure this can't happen again? I'm guessing the answer may well turn out to be "we just don't know", but I think think it deserves some analysis, in the same way that the writings of various other nutjobs from history have been recorded. Lessons from the past etc.

And you can be sure that if you ban it, it's suddenly going to become a whole lot more interesting to people.

Re:Why give it the time? (1)

cathector (972646) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012446)

ban it ?
of course not. that's both impossible and counterproductive, as you say.

you make a valid point that it's valuable to understand what went wrong with the killer.
i feel that the decoding effort at hand isn't really interested in that.

Re:Why give it the time? (1)

jamesh (87723) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012896)

you make a valid point that it's valuable to understand what went wrong with the killer.

i feel that the decoding effort at hand isn't really interested in that.

Probably not. A puzzle is neither good or bad, it's just a puzzle, and a puzzle exists to be solved :)

Re:Why give it the time? (1)

sg_oneill (159032) | more than 2 years ago | (#37013090)

Having read thru parts of it, I could certainly understand the polices motives if they tried to ban it. Its a terrorism manual, and some of its a little more sophisticated than the spazzy "how to blow up bins at highschool" pap you used to see on the bbs .txt collections.

Its actually a fairly horrifying document, the guy has some seriously evil mental wiring. He's not planning just a war on muslims, he's rooting for the whole nuclear holocaust scenario, discusses in details things like anthrax attacks and useage of other WMDs. He's basically created in his mind a sort of white supremacist version of Al Quaida.

Whats a little scary, is that statistically speaking, white supremacists have a far more comprehensive history of terrorist attacks (The most successful terrorist organization in US history was never al quaida, but the ku klux klan) but have generally not been that successful, barring perhaps Timothy McVeighs bombing and the KKK attacks on blacks and republicans earlier in US history, and the reason for the lack of success is simply most white supremacists are frankly dumber than a bag of rocks. A manual like this however seems to be quite well researched and potentially places the ammo in white supremacists hands to become a lot more successful in their attacks on left wingers, muslims and ironically (as ABB was actually pro israel, somewhat unusually) against jewish folks.

It should't be banned, as the info is already out there, but if I where the authorities, I'd be rather worried.

Re:Why give it the time? (2)

kent_eh (543303) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012402)

If i had a grudge against humans, or a certain set of humans, or something really stupid like that and I wanted to do something that will get me remembered, for whatever reason, in the history of man, I'd do some crap just like this. Make up a "manifesto" of probably gibberish, encyrpted and whatnot, so peeps would spend many hours of discussion and get me remembered.

That's sort of what Dexter [imdb.com] did, though his motivation was to mess with the investigators.
Then again, Dexter is a fictional character...

This guy probably is deluded enough to believe he was doing the world a favour, and that the world would see his writings as a sensible "way forward" now that he has set the ball in motion.
I'm sure it's perfectly sensible in his mind, if only everyone else would just listen to him.

----

I have had to deal with a family member who was eventually hospitalized with Delusional Disorder.
Lemme tell you, they can be absolutely convinced that they alone know the truth of things, and that pretty much any action is reasonable to get the rest of the world to see things "for what they really are"
It's damn scary watching it happen to someone you know. I hope none of you have to experience it first hand.

Re:Why give it the time? (1)

ketilwaa (1095727) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012638)

Funnily enough, the terrorist nutjob was a big fan of the Dexter series. That has been reported many times. Judging by the copy/paste nature of his so called manifesto, I would not be suprised if he lifted plots from his favourite TV shows as well.

Re:Why give it the time? (2)

Z00L00K (682162) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012666)

I did notice that at many of the locations there have been a gym not far from the location.

And he has been exercising heavily in prison, so maybe those are locations of preferred gyms.

Re:Why give it the time? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37012610)

The reason we try to understand the broken things in the world (which includes broken individuals and broken systems that contributed to their existence) is to fix them.

Someone should have told you that. We apologize for not telling you sooner. We will make a note and hopefully the next iteration of humans will know in advance.

Our goal is to improve the world by iteratively improving upon our systems.

Have a nice day.

Re:Why give it the time? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37012668)

What if, for example, he hid bombs at each of those coordinates, timed to go off next year to remember the date when he pulled his horrible act?

Know your enemy (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37012746)

I've read some of his book. I won't finish it (not enough time in my life), but it's worth reading at least the first couple chapters and skimming the rest. It's scary to do because you'll find that it's not "incoherent ramblings" as the media tells you - quite a bit of it is eloquently written (I suspect it's stitched together from multiple sources) and presents some decent arguments. I'm pretty far to the socialist side, and he's hard-right, but I agree with some of what he's saying, even if I think the conclusion that he reaches (that it's time for Europe to rise up against the oppression of the current ideological regime) is bunk.

This tragedy isn't caused by simple Crazy. An important ingredient is Ideology. To prevent future killings in this form - lone wolf, keeping a low profile - you have to fight the ideological reasons that drive them to do such a thing.

The amount of Crazy this takes is not Batshit Insane. It's a lack of critical thinking about the flaws in their ideology, the conclusions they've reached, and the worth of the actions they will undertake; nurtured a supportive environment which will encourage his thoughts; but still enough sanity for long-term planning and preparation without raising red flags.

Police work does not find these types. Some idiots will fuck up and get caught, but there are lots of people out there who are lacking in the critical thinking department. Some will always slip through.

The way you defend against this is not to brush him off as Crazy; but rather to dive into his mind and try to understand what drove him to kill 77 people. And once you do, you, a rational thinker, need to talk with other people who may hold radical ideologies and help them to understand where the flaws in their beliefs are before the real Crazy takes hold and they start shooting.

And you can't until you let yourself really understand his ideas, rather than just getting the two sentence blurbs. Know - deeply, intellectually - your enemy.

Re:Know your enemy (1)

ravenshrike (808508) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012924)

The Unabomber(The American terrorist most similar to this nutjob) also had a very eloquent manifesto. Doesn'tt change that he was just as fucking crazy.

It's a map to his apocalypse stash (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37012138)

The coordinates lead to a series of buried stashes of porn, kleenex and hand lotion. He's been preparing for the end of the world for years.

Mailing list? (1)

lucm (889690) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012148)

From the link:
> Send an email to manifest-analysis-request@analysis.no.net with the word "subscribe" in the body text (not subject) to participate.

I guess the good ol' Majordomo is being revived. Can't wait to see if they also setup a webring or at least put up a guestbook that I could sign!

Don't believe it (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37012182)

1. Microsoft's file formats are well-known for being very messy and hard to parse.
2. Word itself is known for strange, bizarre, and undesirable things to your formatting.
3. The killer wasn't smart or sensible enough to convert his manifesto to .pdf or .html or something more reasonable to help ensure a wider readership / distribution.
4. The killer didn't know how to use BCC to hide the addresses of his ~1000 or so recipients (Possibly he WANTED his recipient list public, but I see no reason why in particular he would. If anything, he ought to have hidden it, if any members of his 'cell' were among the recipients).

So my own personal armchair analysis of all this is that they're chasing phantoms here.

Re:Don't believe it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37012514)

4. The killer didn't know how to use BCC to hide the addresses of his ~1000 or so recipients (Possibly he WANTED his recipient list public, but I see no reason why in particular he would. If anything, he ought to have hidden it, if any members of his 'cell' were among the recipients).

Maybe he did hide it. Just because you CC 1000 addresses doesn't mean you can't BCC some too.

Did the police only check the list of recipients on the receiving end or did they also check the outgoing message on the idiots computer?

I think I got most of it decrypted (4, Funny)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012206)

B.E.S.U.R.E.T.O.D.R.I.N.K.Y.O.U.R.O.V.A.L.T.I.N.E.

and, to accommodate Slashdot's filters...

b.e.s.u.r.e.t.o.d.r.i.n.k.y.o.u.r.o.v.a.l.t.i.n.e.

We've Cracked the Code! (-1, Redundant)

virb67 (1771270) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012208)

A team of volunteer cryptographers have cracked the code. They're not web addresses at all, but pieces of a secret message: B-E-S-U-R-E-T-O-D-R-I-N-K-Y-O-U-R-O-V-A-L-T-I-N-E

Re:We've Cracked the Code! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37012220)

It's a cookbook!

Re:We've Cracked the Code! (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37012356)

I don't understand how two fags can make the same dumb attempt at a joke only a minute apart.

Re:We've Cracked the Code! (0)

virb67 (1771270) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012518)

And I don't understand how two fags can simultaneously come up with calculus.

1500 Pages? (2)

Lanteran (1883836) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012224)

I'll wait for the movie.
Too soon?

Re:1500 Pages? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37012352)

I fart in your general direction!

Re:1500 Pages? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37012918)

Well, scripts tend to clock in at about a minute per page, so that'd be more like a mini-series.

Clearly... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37012230)

he's jealous of how often Julian Assange was described as a Bond villain.

The project appears to be in good hands. (2)

An Ominous Cow Erred (28892) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012318)

Looks like it's Oystein, (a.k.a. edison) in charge of the operation. He's one sharp cookie and has been in the Norweigan scene for decades. I remember how fun we he was 20 yrs ago. xD I'm sure it will be solved soon.

right wing conspiracy (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37012360)

nut wing
crazy wing
mental wing
you get the idea

Re:right wing conspiracy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37012572)

Chicken wing?

What do you call... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37012392)

What do you call and Alternate Reality Game that takes place in real reality?

What we need to do (1)

Ryantology (2388210) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012396)

is collect a group of xkcd readers and "House of Leaves" obsessives. They'd figure it out in about three days.

Dangerous contents (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37012424)

While I applaud the effort to track down potential threats from such a long document, I am curious if it was really a safe thing to do.

A quick glance showed a lot of information on topics that I would consider to be terrorist related activities. I seen mention of making bombs, hiding stuff, and even mention of ricin, which my understanding is a poison. So I wonder, is it really safe to make information like this publically available knowing full well that hundreds of thousands of people will potentially download this information and use it for god knows what purpose?

My guess is that he is the type of person who had no actual affiliations, but was hoping to disseminate this information to try to reach out to a small few individuals who might share a common hatred for life, and use the information in the articles to carry out similar atrocities. In other words, further bad things may happen as a result of sharing this information.

Oh well, the points are moot not that it has already been shared. Hope you figure it out guys, gl.

Re:Dangerous contents (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37012526)

You do realize that recipes for this sort of stuff have been in the public domain for over fourty years [wikipedia.org]? Thanks to the internet, guides on how to do all sorts of quasi-terrorist activities are freely available.

No new ground has been tread here.

Re:Dangerous contents (1)

maxwell demon (590494) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012802)

A quick glance showed a lot of information on topics that I would consider to be terrorist related activities. I seen mention of making bombs, hiding stuff, and even mention of ricin, which my understanding is a poison. So I wonder, is it really safe to make information like this publically available knowing full well that hundreds of thousands of people will potentially download this information and use it for god knows what purpose?

While we're at it, also get rid of the thrillers. After all, they tell us various ways of how to commit crimes, including lots of clever ways to kill people.

Lost time (5, Insightful)

mseeger (40923) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012466)

I am sure that this will be lost time. Worse. Spending time with his manifesto is exactly the thing, the killer wants us to do. He is not worth the time and effort, his manifesto is also not worth it.

The murders were his PR campaign. Don't fall for it. I know that a "damnation memoriae" will not work, but don't help a killer with additional attention.

I don't want to know about his childhood, i am not interested in his home stories, i don't want to see his pictures or see his manifesto publicly discussed.

If you want to spend time, do it for his victims. What where their dreams, ideas, visions? Try to use your words to keep their memory alive, not some sick bastards.

Yours, Martin

Re:Lost time (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37012576)

You can't uproot ideas, even very silly and mad, by just ignoring them, and supression is actually the breeding ground for them. Maybe it's boring to refute every one of them indefinitely, when you can spend that time watching Glee or chewing food, but this kind of education by discussion is, in my humble opinion, much, much better than 76 persons dead in one day. It seems like his killing spree was not the aim but due to negligence of society to discuss some (yes, dubious) political ideas. You see? Once you supressing the question, you can get things going ballistic.

Re:Lost time (1)

arth1 (260657) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012772)

I am sure that this will be lost time. Worse. Spending time with his manifesto is exactly the thing, the killer wants us to do.

He wants us to read the manifesto and be swayed by his supreme understanding of how Europe and Norway are going to hell in a handbasket unless we turn Xenophobic.
He doesn't want us to read the manifesto to understand how a person could crack so completely in order to prevent it from ever happening again.

The evil deed can never be undone. The best that can be done for the victims is a resounding "never again", and become a society where no one can become this crazy and discuss their conspiracy theories on sites like "Gates of Vienna" without anyone noticing or caring. Preventing it from ever happening again and showing the perpetrator and his ideological friends how wrong they are is the only rational response that honors the victims.

Codes are a distraction (1)

kanweg (771128) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012494)

Breyvik is a guy with a grudge, who clearly is capable of planning ahead. He is oh so cooperative, tells the police about another cell (didn't say there are many, because that would be unbelievable). He was also willing to do another thing, but a few requirements would have to be met. Most of them were very reasonable, but one of them the police could/would not accommodate for. How inconvenient! Breyvik smart; police stupid. He has a manifesto with codes in them. The manifesto is 1500 pages or so. That will keep the police occupied! And there are codes in them. Oh, brilliant, that will keep the police occupied even longer. And the police is blamed already for not preventing all this, they are not going to leave stone unturned. Blaming the police is stupid. It is like those slashdotters that pride themselves in having a gun to defend themselves, but wouldn't go home to get it if a felon stabbed a knife in their back on the street to get their wallet. The police could never have prevented it. Politics could have closed the alley. That's it. And he would have found another target. Don't give Breyvik power even while he's in custody, so don't spend time on the codes. At best they are real but just tell something mysterious that can be interpreted in more ways, costing more police effort. Just punish him for the terrorist act and the murders.

Bert

Re:Codes are a distraction (1)

arth1 (260657) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012798)

And the police is blamed already for not preventing all this,

No, they are not. Norway is not USA or the UK. Norwegians don't expect the police to monitor dissenters, they expect society to do so - a society of which they themselves are a part.
The lack of openness and discussing radical views, thus allowing it to fester unnoticed by the public radar is getting the blame.

Could be addresses to games (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37012566)

These links could also be links to locations in games or virtual worlds like WoW. We know the killer was very active on the Silvermoon WoW server up till 2008 and thane took a 2 year pause to return in 2010. He might have been active in other games too.

Perhaps some gamers in the audience will recognize these links?

I think I already broke this guy's code (1)

BitHive (578094) | more than 2 years ago | (#37012702)

Some excerpts from this nauseating, yet derivative, "manifesto":

Time is of the essence. We have only a few decades to consolidate a sufficient level of resistance before our major cities are completely demographically overwhelmed by Muslims. Ensuring the successful distribution of this compendium to as many Europeans as humanly possible will significantly contribute to our success. It may be the only way to avoid our present and future dhimmitude (enslavement) under Islamic majority rule in our own countries.

If a man of the 1950s were suddenly introduced into Western Europe in the 2000s, he would hardly recognise it as the same country. He would be in immediate danger of getting mugged, carjacked or worse, because he would not have learned to live in constant fear. When the children came home in the afternoon and told them they had to go through a metal detector to get in the building, had been given some funny white powder by another kid and learned that homosexuality is normal and good, the parents would be uncomprehending.

Ladies should be wives and homemakers, not cops or soldiers, and men should still hold doors open for ladies. Children should not be born out of wedlock. Glorification of homosexuality should be shunned. Jurors should not accept Islam as an excuse for murder.

Don't even need to read the rest, really.

Re: I think I already broke this guy's code (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37013048)

So basically he is saying that he IS from the 1950s !!
I bet all these codes will point to the location of his time machine !

Re: I think I already broke this guy's code (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37013084)

I am not going to read the rest really because I already know all this.

He is right of course, humanity needs a wake up call; society cannot possibly go on like this. It is all about backstabbing each other and bending over in fear in the name of multiculturalism.

1500 pages of crap - who would read it? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37012794)

Goodness me, who would actually read 1500 pages of lunatic ravings?

Wifi (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37012908)

They are wifi hotspot coordinates with login info. Are they really that dumb to not see this?

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