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India Wants To Monitor Twitter, Facebook

timothy posted more than 2 years ago | from the you-bet-they-do dept.

Security 113

swandives writes "India's home ministry has asked its communications ministry to monitor social networking websites such as Twitter and Facebook amid fears that the services are being used by terrorists to plan attacks. The request suggests that the Indian government is trying to broaden the scope of its online surveillance for national security. Under new rules to the country's IT Act that came into force earlier this year, websites and service providers are required to provide government security agencies with information on private accounts, including passwords, on request without a court order."

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I hope you don't mind (5, Insightful)

abednegoyulo (1797602) | more than 2 years ago | (#37030018)

me asking: Is there anything that terrorists can't use?

Re:I hope you don't mind (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37030038)

Because if I were a terrorist, I would totally use facebook/twitter to plot an attack. *face palm*

Re:I hope you don't mind (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37030414)

Yeah, that's the reason why India cannot progress any further. That f**ing corrupt government does not know anything about encryption and steganography.
Good luck with the above scheme. It is bound to fail. It would be better if you bureaucrats, policemen and other officials returned to your work of taking bribes.

Re:I hope you don't mind (1)

bejiitas_wrath (825021) | more than 2 years ago | (#37030418)

Well, in the movies the terrorist/bad guy always uses Internet cafes to communicate with his superiors over IRC, maybe they should monitor that too... Like the Bruce Willis re-make of Day of the Jackal.

WOW (3, Funny)

sakdoctor (1087155) | more than 2 years ago | (#37030470)

I plan all my terrorist activity in world of warcraft guild chat.
Though I'm starting to suspect a Night elf who joined recently might be FBI.

Re:WOW (0)

Calydor (739835) | more than 2 years ago | (#37030706)

Especially if it's a Horde guild.

I recall this comic of an agency (maybe FBI) monitoring guild chat when a raid was being set up and freaking out about the need for 'priests' etc. Tried searching for it but can't find it now, unfortunately.

Re:WOW (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37030736)

Osama Bin Laden should start using LOLcat images...

I can haz bomb?

Re:WOW (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37031122)

except he's kinda dead...

Re:WOW (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37031094)

Apparently CounterStrike servers are the best place for informants to gather tips. OMG! A bomb has been planted!

Re:I hope you don't mind (1)

WrongSizeGlass (838941) | more than 2 years ago | (#37030978)

me asking: Is there anything that terrorists can't use?

Hmm, let us think about it and we'll get back to you. If you're kind enough to provide us with your contact list we'll be more than happy to deliver the our decision to everyone for you ... in person ... with extreme prejudice.

Not much to do with terrorism (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37031612)

More to do with monitoring dissent. Because very few terrorists are going to be dumb enough to carry out obvious conversations. At least obvious enough to let the incompetent Indian agencies notice (who can't seem to notice things in plain sight until after the fact, because the poor sobs are busy protecting the 'important' people). But when it comes to monitoring peaceful protesters and conducting bogus investigations on activists and imprisoning, they are in top form.

PS: I feel sad when I see Indians getting defensive about such reports. I am an Indian living in the US. Just look at what is happening in the central st of Chhattisgarh.

Terrorism is just the excuse (1)

EnergyScholar (801915) | more than 2 years ago | (#37032828)

Governments just pretend this is about terrorism. Actually, terrorism is just the excuse used to justify gathering information.

Also, before we criticize India, remember that the MOST intrusive government spying is done by the USA, along with Canada, Australia, New Zealand and the United Kingdom. See Project Echelon [wikipedia.org] for details. This author wishes to further assert that AUSCANNZUKUS has operated a production quantum computer system since about 1996, a system capable of cracking data transmission encrypted with PKI [wikipedia.org] as well as other useful Signal Intelligence tricks. Technically, this system runs something similar to Shor's Algorithm [wikipedia.org] on a quantum VM [wikipedia.org] running atop an entanglement [wikipedia.org] /teleportation [wikipedia.org] based winner-take-all style [wikipedia.org] quantum neural network [wikipedia.org] . This approach exploits the well known fact that a generalized neural network is Turing Complete [wikipedia.org] . When proof of this claim (which this author does not have) becomes available, it will lead to realization that privileged intelligence agencies have been slurping up PKI-encrypted data for 16 years, and doing a darn good job of hiding the fact. This author further asserts that both China and Russia each have their own operational quantum neural networks, which may or may not already be pwned by the AUSCANNZUKUS neural network. This author further asserts that a division of the NSA supercomputing system is actually a front feeding to a quantum PKI cracker. This author strongly suspects that evidence of the above will eventually be forthcoming - probably sooner if someone is stupid enough to trigger insurance.aes256. Finally, this author asserts that the inventors of said quantum neural network will probably win their second Nobel Prize (first was in Physics more than 10 years ago), a Peace Prize this time, in 2011, and their third Nobel Prize (plus a Turing Award [wikipedia.org] ) a few years later, once the scope of their activities are fully known. There is one heck of a story here, which some folks at Slashdot (e.g. the cowboys and cowgirls) will especially appreciate.

Contact this author (include the phrase "hunting snarks") if you wish to receive a preview of the forthcoming book. Figuring out how to contact the author is the prerequisite intelligence test. The most relevant scientific topic is Mathematical Biology [wikipedia.org] as it applies to artificial intelligence, given that the QNN described above came about via solving the Morphogenesis [wikipedia.org] problem. Given that Morphogenesis was Alan Turing's primary project after Bletchley Park, that ought to qualify for the grand slam extra-special Turing Award.

Oh terrorists... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37030046)

Most likely outcome: Dodgy regex being used on large (unoptimized and inefficient) datasets with no real way to check whether any tangible results will be produced. Also hundreds, if not thousands of false positives will pop up. Best result? You nab a few terrorists. If you spend the resources and time however, on a different, more verifiable and tried-and-tested goal (like education and women's rights) you stop many, many more terrorists from ever existing.

Re:Oh terrorists... (1)

Z00L00K (682162) | more than 2 years ago | (#37030130)

And you forgot a programme where you get yourself castrated and get paid in 42 goats.

Terrorists will always find new paths for their information.

Yes we need that kind of law everywhere after Lond (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37030048)

Yes we need that kind of law everywhere .... specially what we saw recently in London .. how the heartless assholes mobbed up through twitter and facebook to put innocent lives in dangers and destroy properties without any thought for others.....

Re:Yes we need that kind of law everywhere after L (2)

morgaen (1896818) | more than 2 years ago | (#37030468)

I really hope that that isn't the lesson that you're learning from London.

Hmmmm (1)

Mystery00 (1100379) | more than 2 years ago | (#37030066)

Wouldn't it be smarter to use IRC or any other instant messenger rather than two of some of the most popular and heavily monitored social sites on th--

Hold on, someone's knocking on the door....

Who answers in their phone centers? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37030072)

Do they outsource to Bangladesh?

Correction: Monitor "Opposition political parties" (0)

joesteeve (2002048) | more than 2 years ago | (#37030080)

Coz thats where most of the Indian Intelligence Agencies spend their time on :-/

Congress Party = One Party State (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37030132)

True enough - thanks to the Congress Party of India, which aspires to a One Party State

Passwords? (3, Insightful)

rtb61 (674572) | more than 2 years ago | (#37030112)

Exactly what is your ISP internet password going to provide except for some professional paranoid agent to cheat on your internet account and, to put false entries into your account. The only passwords your ISP should have are the ones to need to access their network and of course your email account. The email account is of course completely arbitrary as it is not encrypted. There is also web server accounts but are the government going to hack these.

This sounds like the professionally paranoid are expecting ISPs to harvest all the passwords you use on the internet or they intent to plant false information to ensure political and promotional successes.

The whole idea of warrants is to protect citizens from out of control law enforcement, from investigator who will corrupt cases for revenge, for promotion or even for payment. Which country now claims perfect police officers, those saintly individuals who never lie cheat or steal, keeping in mind that includes 100% of the police force or other investigatory agencies, including political appointees and of course the politicians that control them.

Warrants were never about gaining access to a citizens private information they are all about protecting citizens from criminal access to private information, from accessing for personal advantage, to distorting it by selective editing it and especially from planting false information. The courts must prove that law enforcement did not tamper with the evidence, the I say so defence is not good enough for us and it should not be good enough for them.

Re:Passwords? (1)

rbrausse (1319883) | more than 2 years ago | (#37030590)

The only passwords your ISP should have are the ones to need to access their network and of course your email account

nah, I believe the objective is slightly more distracting. The combination of two sentences in the article ("service providers in India provide facilities for [..] monitoring of [..] communications from social networking websites such as Facebook and Twitter" and "service providers are required to provide government security agencies with information [..] including passwords") sounds suspiciously like a permanent DPI with tapping of all user/password combinations.

Re:Passwords? (1)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 2 years ago | (#37030876)

example [illinoistimes.com]

Support the Innocence Project [wikipedia.org] . Now incarcerated former Illinois Governor George Ryan stopped executions in Illinois when it was found that half of the men on Illinois' death row were innocent. The legislature has since abolished the death penalty here for the same reason, but there are still folks in prison who have been framed.

Citizens need to keep governments on tight leashes, rather than the other way around.

Laugh at India all you want but... (5, Insightful)

file_reaper (1290016) | more than 2 years ago | (#37030128)

Doesn't the NSA or whatever intelligence agency in the Western world monitor all of you traffic? USA's the most paranoid about terrorism.

How much of your social activity is monitored by intelligence agencies? Does your democratic process expose any of it?

I know /. likes to mock and laugh at India, this happened before with the Blackberry encryption case.

As an Indian citizen living abroad I know about this now, what's your congress doing behind closed doors?

Re:Laugh at India all you want but... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37030408)

Do not get defensive dude. It is ok to call a spade a spade. Indian government is one of the most repressive regimes in the world. Secret prisons, torture and custodial death are very common. Would you trust the same watchmen with policing online?

I am glad these articles come up discussing something or the other about India. It raises awareness at the least. Remeber that may Indians are around here and Indian government != Indian people.
 

Re:Laugh at India all you want but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37030598)

"Secret prisons, torture and custodial death are very common..."

You should be from Pakistan and you deserve it.

Re:Laugh at India all you want but... (2)

dkf (304284) | more than 2 years ago | (#37030608)

Indian government is one of the most repressive regimes in the world.

Unfortunately, you're wrong. There are plenty of places that are even worse; a current example is Syria, where the government has been shelling its own people for dissent, and where that well-known Bastion of Freedom, Saudi Arabia, has been protesting the actions loudly. You really don't much more repressive than that.

Not that this says anything very much about India, but rather that too many governments are simply completely awful. Tone down the hyperbole; the shameful facts don't need it.

Re:Laugh at India all you want but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37034964)

Which part of the "most oppresive regimes" do you not understand? Syria, Libia and Saudi Arabia may be the 7th circle of hell, but India is up there as well.

Re:Laugh at India all you want but... (1)

trojjan (994851) | more than 2 years ago | (#37030686)

If the American government does it then it's not a very ridiculous thing for India? I'm sorry I totally don't get your point. Take care of your own shit, I don't give a rat's ass about what America's policies are on privacy of citizens(not completely true but you get the point).

Re:Laugh at India all you want but... (2)

SomePgmr (2021234) | more than 2 years ago | (#37030986)

Not to worry, we spend most of our time here whining about the good ol' US.

But to answer some of your questions... yes, there's all sorts of domestic spying. Yes, some of cloak-and-dagger stuff gets exposed. Some of it happens quite openly.

And I don't think anyone is laughing at India. It's more like, "we feel your pain."

Re:Laugh at India all you want but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37030990)

A couple counter-points:
1) What Trojjan said, another child comment to your post, just because the US does it doesn't mean it is okay not to mock it elsewhere. It is wrong in both places.
2) Either your country is a saint in a world of demons in terms of world governments by keeping this all in the open, or you have to wonder what they are doing behind back doors themselves if this is what they consider alright to leave in the open.

i dont like to mock or laugh at india (4, Insightful)

decora (1710862) | more than 2 years ago | (#37031322)

only the indian government, and then it has nothing to do with being 'indian', but rather because it is 'government'.

Re:i dont like to mock or laugh at india (1)

seven of five (578993) | more than 2 years ago | (#37031646)

... so you're saying some bad non-Indians are electing your politicians for you? Or you elect good Indians which transform into bad ones? Or what?

it has nothing to do with india (1)

decora (1710862) | more than 2 years ago | (#37033418)

it is about governments, all governments, which seem to have some sort of natural tendency to act like this.

it is inevitably how rotten democracy gets (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37034006)

No they elect them the same way that we the good people of the US elect absolute rotten politicians!!!!! (debt deal anyone ha? warrant-less wiretaps? wmd's in iraq yada yada.......)

Re:it is inevitably how rotten democracy gets (1)

SomePgmr (2021234) | more than 2 years ago | (#37034386)

There's no such thing as a good person in national politics.

Anywhere.

There! I just covered everything in one hit. Let's move on. ;)

histleblower+Says+NSA+Monitors+Everybody+Targets+R (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37033350)

I think the average slashdot reader loves to believe they have the right to privacy - though they find out multiple times that they have none as the articles below mention.

The only difference ? US has super gag orders which dont let the parties even talk about the orders ... other countries are still learning these cool new ways to transcend free speach

1. Whistleblower+Says+NSA+Monitors+Everybody+Targets+Reporters+and+Dissidents
      - NSA melds financial information with all other information available online social media etc.
      - All information ( phone calls, text, web, emails, of every american are collected analyzed and possibly stored!)

2. Other countries are just asking GOOG and Blackberry to start complying - whereas in the US, I would not be surprised if the NSA already had it's own closet of electronics in every large ISP, and internet company (a la ATT).
    - https://www.eff.org/nsa/faq

So maybe it is time to stop laughing at the rest of the world. It took 9/11 for everyone to realize that US only pays lip service to human rights and privacy. Most countries like India, UK, & Israel have been suffering from terrorism for a long time - and usually from parties that Americans love to support ( Remember - US did not realize Pakistan supports terrorism until US got its ass spanked ... Pakistan has been doing this since mid 1980s!)

Re:Laugh at India all you want but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37034844)

I don't like it as much as the next guy, but it feels worse when it's another government spying on me. It's one thing if my own government is spying on me. They might have a good reason too (although I doubt it.. i'm boring) But, there is absolutely no reason a foreign government has to spy on me unless i live there or am helping bad people do things IN THEIR COUNTRY.

I don't think every government in the world should have access to all social networking data in the world. That's just stupid. That means Libya, Iran, ...

I think most people realize a company located in a country is going to get asked to spy for them if they have a popular service. I avoid russian services for this reason and avoid international security software when possible.

Every 'IT act' in India provides some serious LOLs (1)

trojjan (994851) | more than 2 years ago | (#37030162)

I live in India and I've witnessed a lot of this asshattery by the clueless so called 'IT/ cybercrime' department of the goverment. Last month they were asking RIM to provide them access to any communication on BlackBerry phones(messenger and browsing) in India, I simply have no idea why they think 'terrorists' will use a particular medium when they have announced they are watching it. Almost all 'terrorist' communication is carried out on phones registered with fake IDs or encrypted email, nothing which they can control. Just sounds to me like a scam for saying 'we put Rs xxxxxxxxx into this effort' and pay .00000001% of it to some barely qualified programmer to write a few regexes on a single server which never is able to process the whole data of whatever they plan on monitoring.

Re:Every 'IT act' in India provides some serious L (1)

AHuxley (892839) | more than 2 years ago | (#37030270)

See if you can find a video called "India - Who Killed The Sikhs" ~35 mins.
Its strange what "data" human rights groups can turn up.
Your right, why any state actor, supporter would let any "group" ever use any IT is strange.
Italy was able to put together the trail of a rendition operation in court http://articles.latimes.com/2008/may/29/world/fg-rendition29 [latimes.com] using telco logs.

Re:Every 'IT act' in India provides some serious L (1)

zget (2395308) | more than 2 years ago | (#37030290)

I simply have no idea why they think 'terrorists' will use a particular medium when they have announced they are watching it.

Well, that's the thing. People usually laught and think "oh they're so stupid" while not knowing the reasoning or background behind it. I think it's more like IT people thinking they're so much wiser and better and ignoring the fact that there might be an actual reason behind what they want to do. I'm not saying they have such for the Facebook, but the BlackBerry phones does make more sense and it could very well had been the most used phone by malicious persons especially when RIM was advertising it as secure, encrypted medium.

Re:Every 'IT act' in India provides some serious L (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37030324)

but the BlackBerry phones does make more sense and it could very well had been the most used phone.

Emphasis mine.

Good (0)

sauge (930823) | more than 2 years ago | (#37030186)

Sounds like a good reason to bring IT jobs back home (whether European or Americas) to me. Otherwise just let India read your emails and web based applications on demand. That'll be good for proprietary information I am sure.

Really ? (2)

parallel_prankster (1455313) | more than 2 years ago | (#37030188)

Given that the Indian government has a tough time doing what it should be doing, why add stuff to their list ? I dont think they are ever going to have any one monitoring the way it is supposed to be done. Maybe they use it for illegitimate reasons like against political enemies etc. But in the end nothing ever happens to the bad guys in India and the remaining folks in India just dont care about the government anymore. So keep piling on those rules!!

Re:Really ? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37030394)

Sounds alot like the US to me. (and unfortunatly creeping it's way into other western covernments)

Re:Really ? (1)

Pieroxy (222434) | more than 2 years ago | (#37030552)

Not mentionning that I have a hard time figuring out how they're going to make sense of these billions tweets every day. The signal/noise ratio must be very low on twitter...

Yeah and that's what our major problems are (2)

monzie (729782) | more than 2 years ago | (#37030198)

This is just a waste of time and money by our government. There are people who dont get to eat , who get denied basic human rights and who dont get safe water to drink. None of them have the time, the energy or the means to come on Facebook and Twitter and crib/complain about it. This is just Indian politicians and bureaucrats trying to sound "cool"

Not buying it.. (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37030218)

Seriously, is anyone else still buying the "terrorist" card any more.

The only thing those social network sites have been used for in the past year is to organise lots and lots of protests against corrupt governments around the world.

Nice try.

Re:Not buying it.. (1)

gbjbaanb (229885) | more than 2 years ago | (#37030788)

ah, sh*t. I guess that means the UK government is corrupt too.

Well, either that or there's a mass surge of people who want new, free, electrical goods.

Re:Not buying it.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37030934)

ah, sh*t. I guess that means the UK government is corrupt too.

Is there any government that isn't?

Facebook Blacklist (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37030228)

Facebook Blacklist
66.249.64.0/19
67.192.35.191
69.63.176.10
69.63.176.11
69.63.176.0/20
69.63.181.12
69.63.181.0/20
69.63.184.11
69.63.189.11
69.63.189.0/20
204.15.20.80
204.15.20.0/20

I haven't blocked twitter yet, but I avoid it like the plague

Websites too (1)

pmontra (738736) | more than 2 years ago | (#37030250)

All the comments have been about ISPs but the request to disclose passwords applies to websites as well. Indians will say goodbye to storing hashed passwords, they must be clear text or encrypted with a password stored on the server, which is a little more inconvenient for an attacker. So this is a request that enforces a bad practice and lowers security for everybody, even for people outside India as it increases the global pool of crackable accounts which can be used to do nasty things.

Cool - more external monitoring (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37030266)

The more monitoring - the faster Facebook/Google/etc can be notified of server outages. Sounds like a good thing to me.

don't see much the point of a public annoucement (1)

marmotte (857974) | more than 2 years ago | (#37030272)

can't they do it discretely and write at gouv@facebook.com like everybody else ?

Proof that the courts don't mean shit. (1)

SquirrelDeth (1972694) | more than 2 years ago | (#37030274)

Almost every law enforcement agency in the world can do what ever the hell they want without a court order legally. The only thing the courts do is bring in money for the government.

Re:Proof that the courts don't mean shit. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37030344)

hear hear...

Privacy, not Security (1)

slb (72208) | more than 2 years ago | (#37030294)

Shouldn't the appropriate icon for this submission be Privacy rather than Security ?

Obvious! (2)

xenobyte (446878) | more than 2 years ago | (#37030296)

Because the real terrorists communicate using twitter and are careful to include #terrorinindia in their tweets... or using the wall in a group called "Terror attack against India" on Facebook...

Re:Obvious! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37030520)

Nobody cares about terrorists. They are just a buzzword, a scapegoat. Governments want to prevent ordinary citizens to organise against corrupt and immoral governments.

These measures are put in place so corrupt officials can protect themselves against the people.

They wrote the wrong law long ago (1)

holophrastic (221104) | more than 2 years ago | (#37030304)

The law was supposed to say: "any service/medium/product used by more than 10-25% of a given population/market/industry must be monitored/regulated/tapped". But instead they said mail/telephone. So now everyone says "broadening to include" a though anyone ever wanted a country where law enforcement can't monitor any communications of any kind. Since mail/telephone is virtually gone as a method of coordinated communication, of course governments and law enforcement in general are going to start monitoring modern communication paths. Why would anyone be surprised? That's actually what we want.

If people stopped attacking each other in the street, and instead, pushed a button that immediately caused pain to someone else in another part of the city via super death ray, would you not want police to start having jurisdiction over such matters?

gucci shoes (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37030318)

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www.clheeledshoes.com
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wwww.selljuicybag.com
www.goodsalewatch.com

Its a terrorist activation! (1)

Chrisq (894406) | more than 2 years ago | (#37030374)

www.shopmaccosmetics.com
www.shopmaccomestics.com
www.donfljerseys.com
www.alijewelry.com
www.clheeledshoes.com
www.goodcoachshop.com
www.guccilvshoes.com
www.greatpumashoes.com
wwww.selljuicybag.com
www.goodsalewatch.com

Each combination of spam URL encodes a different message to terrorists. Track him down and drag him to gitmo

Re:Its a terrorist activation! (1)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 2 years ago | (#37031290)

I was just writing a post about that... but I was referring to those other badly-written almost-english spam messages.

But you may also be right. Who would try to spam with those links and not even make them clickable? The duplication of the first link is also weird.

Re:Its a terrorist activation! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37031330)

I was just writing a post about that... but I was referring to those other badly-written almost-english spam messages.

Which ones, the ones that are spams, or the ones that teepeeleaks/babys whackjob? (I'm still not sure if he's schizo or stego). He went away for a few weeks and then came back.

The Indian Government doesn't do precautions (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37030386)

Ummm... The Indian Government doesn't do precautions (EVER) be it security or broken roads, except when they think, they are about to lose their majority in the parliament, be it in the middle of one (Prime Minister's) term or an election year. This might be one of those cases...

Re:The Indian Government doesn't do precautions (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37030516)

This is exactly what I tell my non-Indian friends here.

London calling (3, Insightful)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 2 years ago | (#37030404)

Terrorism... yeah, sure.

Somehow I have the feeling someone's afraid of getting a riot at his hands, and that protesters could use social networking as a means to coordinate it.

In case someone didn't follow the news and hence does not get the subject line, riots broke out in London, organized and coordinated through social networks.

But of course, this is not the reason for this idea, and the timing is purely coincidental. They just want to make sure that the people are safe from terrorism. Sure.

Re:London calling (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37031336)

+1

Appearances matter more than result (1)

neither_geek_nor_ner (1002460) | more than 2 years ago | (#37030530)

Monitoring Twitter and Facebook is akin to putting police check-posts on the major highways but not on the back roads which are generally used by the not-so-innocent public for carrying on their activities. The regular users get inconvenienced but the bad guys get through!!

Not a totally bad idea (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37030542)

So people who work in these government departments can be on their own Facebook & Twitter accounts all day long, play Farmville and claim to anybody that they're monitoring terror activities. I don't fault the government, since a lot of jihadi groups do use Facebook, and there have been plenty of cases of Facebook pages being created to promote such activity. But this was a stupid move - the Indian home ministry should have simply monitored it itself, or asked India's Intelligence Agency to do it for them. I doubt that knowing Facebook IPs would be of any use to them, but they could collect what they could from these pages. There are also a whole bunch of terror websites (in languages like Arabic, Urdu, etc) that they need to find out about and monitor. At any rate, I'd think the Indian home ministry is being more alert than the FBI - Famous But Incompetent, when it comes to tracking Jihadi activity.

another clueless measure (1)

gprasad82 (987958) | more than 2 years ago | (#37030646)

Of the many clueless measure India takes against terrorism this will go down in history and will soon be forgotten, like the countless others. What India needs is to get its game together and make a focused long time plan. India is too busy with internal politics and trying very hard not to do the obvious correct thing, and so it is likely to hit very widely off the mark, in countering terrorism. Pathetic and hopeless.

Correction (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37030774)

>suggests that the Indian government is trying to broaden the scope of its online surveillance

... suggests India is governed by morons and imbeciles.

email+PGP (2)

VincenzoRomano (881055) | more than 2 years ago | (#37030784)

... and now what are you going to monitor?
And even when GMail/Yahoomay/Whatevermail will provide you with access to my mailbox, what do you think you are going to get?
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING MEANINGFUL.

Re:email+PGP (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37031892)

Yeah.. nothing but who you're talking to and when you're talking to them. All PGP does is protect what you said.

Nobody here cares about these things.. (1)

Rexdude (747457) | more than 2 years ago | (#37030880)

It's telling that an Australian website is reporting this news rather than any of the Indian mainstream media.

Re:Nobody here cares about these things.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37030958)

Exactly. An Indian here, and i find this attitude appalling (but people like me are a tiny minority) - "as long as i do not have anything to hide, why should i care?".
Indians' notions of privacy and individual rights are ripe for exploitation.

Targetting India Against Corruption (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37031096)

The intention of the Central government is clear - they want to control Anna Hazare [facebook.com] and the India Against Corruption [indiaagain...uption.org] movement.

So much in the name of terrorism yet... (1)

Quantum_Infinity (2038086) | more than 2 years ago | (#37032294)

It's funny how India tries to show off that it is so damn serious about cracking down on terrorism and yet they don't have the balls to hang the sole terrorist convicted in Mumbai attacks. He has been sentenced to death, however, for some reason which is beyond me, he is allowed to appeal to president of India who has the power to reverse the death penalty. And the president is considering it. WTF?

holy molly (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37032638)

The masses are waking up. get them scary and chicken from posting the NWO scam. quick.

Like they are just now starting to monitor the nets. It's been on from a long time.

Threotically.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37032780)

I can see any website as a potential starting point to plotting any scheme (terrorism included). A link here, a complex message there is all one needs to begin to get to the final communication medium. Now, given the popularity of Facebook or Twitter - they would serve as perfect easy access starting points. I'm pretty sure the Indian intelligence agencies aren't looking for #terrorindia, but something more subtle however isn't at all unlikely. Most intelligence 'tips' are due to some communication form or the other, why not social media?

Of course, people' rights is a totally sad side-effect of this, but its done all over the world by pretty much every country

One reason the government wants to do this.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37033024)

.. is probably so that they can keep an eye on coordinated protests. There has been a huge hue and cry against corruption in India recently and people have come to the streets to protest against the government's mockery of a bill to curb corruption. People are trying to get a bill passed (Jan Lok Pal) to make an independent body that'll fight corruption. The government, on the other hand, has proposed another draft which is a joke. (see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR6fmPWnUDE [youtube.com] )

Social media has been used quite a bit in co-ordinating meetings and spreading the message. The government is afraid of an Egypt style uprising against corruption. There have been attempts in the past to ask the government to curb corruption, but they have failed. (eg. search for fight against corruption baba ramdev midnight arrest [google.com] )

Oh, and by the way, if you still haven't got it - I think the reason why the government is shirking responsibility from passing a strong bill is because the government itself has been tainted with numerous allegations of corruption.

PS: A link to Indian Against Corruption's [facebook.com] (never thought I'd give a link to an FB page!)

Mod Parent Up! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37034036)

Somebody please mod parent up and make it visible - this is the most plausible reason why they are trying this. Terrorism is complete BS (and the Indian govt. knows that). The August 16 deadline is coming close.

Indians has been repeated victims of attacks (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37034142)

Seriously, people have an issue with this and not with the US? there was a sum total of one terrorist attack on the US soil, (10 years ago) and the US ripped apart internal protections for citizens and invaded 2 countries (one of them not involved in the attack), the US continues to become more oppressive (TSA, warrant less searches and not the act to force ISP's to retain logs).

wikipedia lists over 35 attacks since then on india, can you even imagine what you would be allowing the US government to do right now (we perhaps would never reach there because bush would have fired of nukes after the 4th attack)

Not that I agree with this stupidity going on in either country. Feeling terrorized and making your citizenry feel "terrorized" is the worst response to "terrorists".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronology_of_major_terrorist_incidents_in_India

Only in India (1)

dontmakemethink (1186169) | more than 2 years ago | (#37034476)

And in the US [time.com] . The Pentagon has budgeted $42M for the expressed purposes of monitoring and influencing social media for the following:
"1. Detect, classify, measure and track the (a) formation, development and spread of ideas and concepts (memes), and
(b) purposeful or deceptive messaging and misinformation.
2. Recognize persuasion campaign structures and influence operations across social mediasites and communities.
3. Identify participants and intent, and measure effects of persuasion campaigns.
4. Counter messaging of detected adversary influence operations.
"

I submitted this story last week, apparently India's privacy is a big deal but not so much for the "land of the free".

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