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Ask Slashdot: Info On Upcoming Handhelds?

timothy posted more than 3 years ago | from the what's-small-and-upcoming dept.

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FullBandwidth writes "Seems like some intrepid Slashdotters are always getting scoops on the soon-to-be-released handhelds (phones, tablets). What's the best way to get technical information and release dates? Apparently in the U.S., the vendors have to submit a certain amount of documentation that then gets published on the fcc.gov website, but I'm not sure if many of us have time to pore over that site. Are there reliable sites or RSS feeds dedicated to what's the bleeding edge of mobile computing?" I glance at Liliputing more days than I don't, partly because of frequent links to new handhelds and tablets as they hit the FCC. Where else should people look?

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Hah (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37062764)

>I'm not sure if many of us have time to pore over that site

You want information, but you're too lazy to find it yourself.

Re:Hah (1)

ozmanjusri (601766) | more than 3 years ago | (#37063336)

You want information, but you're too lazy to find it yourself.

Why the fake dismay? This IS Slashdot, after all.

For the lazy people, if you're heterosexual go here:
http://www.androidtablets.net/forum/ [androidtablets.net]

Otherwise go here:
http://www.macrumors.com/ [macrumors.com]

Re:Hah (1)

Daetrin (576516) | more than 3 years ago | (#37064834)

Hey! That is completely unfair and uncalled for!

I'm given to understand that a lot of straight women prefer macs. (Although i have no information on whether the corollary that homosexual women prefer androids is true or not.)

Re:Hah (1)

Dr Max (1696200) | more than 3 years ago | (#37065592)

Aren't all women a little gay (maybe its just wishful thinking). Something to do with the difference in relationship between mother daughter and father son.

Slashdot, of course! (0)

rodrigoandrade (713371) | more than 3 years ago | (#37062778)

I used to come to /. for the latest news on mobile gadgets, but lately all I've been able to find is news about inisibility cloaks, vaporware electric cars, and Bitcoin.

Re:Slashdot, of course! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37062804)

And politics

your rights online (2)

decora (1710862) | more than 3 years ago | (#37063194)

has been part of slashdot since the beginning.

most of the great scientists did not pretend their field of endeavor was separated from society by some kind of impermeable wall, where they didn't have to care about things like freedom of speech or the uses that governents and military had for their creations.

im not talking about lunatics ranting and raving in the asylum, im talking about Albert Einstein, Carl Sagan, Andrei Sakharov - the Galileos and Copernicuses of our day.

Re:Slashdot, of course! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37063318)

I was thinking that the OP is about ready for a purchase, so places like Engadget might be more suitable, instead of catching The Next Wave/Next Big Thing on /.

Sites (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37062828)

I use these two sites which give a fair heads up on the mobile world.
They both follow the fcc and their postings.

mobile.engadget.com
BGR.com

Re:Sites (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37063502)

OF course there's not much point, since we're all stuck in 2-year contracts.

Re:Sites (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37065236)

If there's one thing to be learned from london rioters, it's pay as you go blackberries.....

Re:Sites (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37166216)

Both of those are great, but I'be found gottabemobile.com has some inside track info...
Also androidpolice.com is pretty reliable also.

Remaining anonymous obviously, but... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37062838)

I work for a rather large specialized company who's name you would instantly recognize. (I'm posting through several proxies)
Anyhow, the R&D group does quite a few "lunch and learns" about upcoming products and ideas and there are certainly some amazing things on the 2-3 year horizon. COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT Tablets! Like a thick piece of glass with a nub on/off switch at the top... the display colors are washed out, but that will get fixed before release. Also phones with built-in wifi access points will become more popular so as long as you have a phone, you can tether your laptop off it.

Re:Remaining anonymous obviously, but... (1)

interkin3tic (1469267) | more than 3 years ago | (#37063152)

COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT Tablets! Like a thick piece of glass with a nub on/off switch at the top...

So you're saying there will soon be a lucrative market for a case which is opaque black or white, so that you can actually get contrast and read what is on the screen? I get annoyed trying to read on my smartphones' reflective screen in sunlight, can't imagine how annoying it will be when I also have to worry about light -under- the tablet.

Re:Remaining anonymous obviously, but... (1)

danlip (737336) | more than 3 years ago | (#37063808)

Yeah, even never understood the appeal of the transparent terminal window, it's the first thing I turn off. I transparent tablet is a cool SciFi gimmick but not something I would want.
 

Re:Remaining anonymous obviously, but... (2)

Grizzley9 (1407005) | more than 3 years ago | (#37063228)

I'm gonna go out on a short limb and say your post is fake or you work for a pretty crappy company if worthless changes to tablets and MOAR wifi in phones is all you got. I don't think multiple proxies were needed.

Re:Remaining anonymous obviously, but... (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 3 years ago | (#37063268)

Yeah. Pretty much any phone with wifi can act as a wifi access point. A transparent tablet is just so much vaporware. First you need transparent wires, batteries and antennas.

Re:Remaining anonymous obviously, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37064312)

Samsung demonstrated a mockup of a laptop with a transparent display:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/samsungs-14-inch-transparent-oled-laptop-video/

if you can fit the electronics for a tablet in the border around the display you're set

Re:Remaining anonymous obviously, but... (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 3 years ago | (#37068066)

Then the tablet is not totally transparent. Then it has an opaque border.

Re:Remaining anonymous obviously, but... (1)

DQKennard (1573143) | more than 3 years ago | (#37073434)

That makes it harder to lose when you put it down. Damn it! where did I put that tablet?? Hey, dude, Skype my tablet so I can see the alert glow.

Uh yes (4, Informative)

jon3k (691256) | more than 3 years ago | (#37062852)

Boy Genius Report [bgr.com] and/or Engadget [engadget.com] .

Re:Uh yes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37063110)

This is my next... [thisismynext.com] , soon to be The Verge [theverge.com] . From most of the old staff of Engadget who left en masse in April.

macrumors.com (-1, Flamebait)

jmcbain (1233044) | more than 3 years ago | (#37062856)

There is only two handheld devices that educated, affluent people should care about, and those are the iPhone and the iPad. To get information on those, visit Macrumors.com.

On the other hand, if you are one of the following, you can get an Android, Windows Phone, or Symbian devices:

  • uneducated
  • not affluent
  • unwashed
  • wearing a ponytail
  • under 21
  • writing a manifesto about being fed up being among the dregs of society

Re:macrumors.com (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37062890)

There is only two handheld devices that educated, affluent people should care about, and those are the iPhone and the iPad. To get information on those, visit Macrumors.com.

On the other hand, if you are one of the following, you can get an Android, Windows Phone, or Symbian devices:

  • uneducated
  • not affluent
  • unwashed
  • wearing a ponytail
  • under 21
  • writing a manifesto about being fed up being among the dregs of society

There _is_ only two... ...educated...

*sigh*

Re:macrumors.com (1)

YodasEvilTwin (2014446) | more than 3 years ago | (#37062938)

You win an internet, good sir.

Re:macrumors.com (0)

jmcbain (1233044) | more than 3 years ago | (#37062992)

Good catch. I started off writing "There is only one..." but then too quickly decided to change it to "There are only two..." without fixing the verb.

Re:macrumors.com (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37063184)

So you're saying there was no excuse for that then.... since you *do* know that rule?

Who cares how smart you are if you fail to actually apply the intellect to real problems....

Also see: People who die of gunshot wounds with fully loaded guns on their person. Death from not wearing a helmet. People who get ran over by trains despite all the flashing lights and bells.

Re:macrumors.com (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37062958)

South Park S10E02.

Re:macrumors.com (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37062986)

Oh, man, reading through your history has me in stitches. Only advice I'd give is that you need to be a little more subtle in your trolling.

Re:macrumors.com (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#37063010)

And guess what: "not affluent" describes most of the public.

Re:macrumors.com (1)

cforciea (1926392) | more than 3 years ago | (#37063166)

But 80% of the population all thinks that they will be in the top 1% someday, so that has to be worth something!

Re:macrumors.com (1)

aztracker1 (702135) | more than 3 years ago | (#37063294)

I'd be happy to make it to the top10%

Re:macrumors.com (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37066650)

Fuck it, top 50% would be great...

Re:macrumors.com (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37066480)

(Shrug) Fine. A market of 20 million people is good enough for me to make a lot of money in. Screw the rest.

Re:macrumors.com (1)

interkin3tic (1469267) | more than 3 years ago | (#37063170)

On the other hand, if you are one of the following, you can get an Android, Windows Phone, or Symbian devices: uneducated not affluent unwashed wearing a ponytail under 21 writing a manifesto about being fed up being among the dregs of society

I remember when many of those applied to if you were a mac user...

Waitaminute, that's still the case!

Re:macrumors.com (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37063248)

Thank you. Now please have some respect to people not willing to sell a kidney every time a new Apple device comes out. Not everyone has piles of money to burn.

Re:macrumors.com (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37065628)

Especially for something that worse than the competition.

Engadget (2)

JStyle (833234) | more than 3 years ago | (#37062934)

Engadget. They reliably stay current on all new tech, review newly released portables (and sometimes before release), and filter out the crazy rumors that other sites seem to thrive on. They have a specifically mobile site as well: http://mobile.engadget.com/ [engadget.com]

They have RSS, and RSS via tag, I use google reader to capture everything android. Subscribe to: http://www.engadget.com/tag/android/rss.xml [engadget.com] ... and this is available for any tag on the site. I believe you can filter tags out of the main site as well, handy for those Apple keynote days if you're not interested.

Re:Engadget (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37065530)

Only the dead wood is left at Engadget. The good folks all left for ThisIsMyNext.com

Sorry, no more new handelds! (2)

ctrl-alt-canc (977108) | more than 3 years ago | (#37062990)

The new patent war involving Apple vs. [Samsung | Motorola | Google | Nokia | Blackberry | The rest of the puny world] is going to keep consumers away from the market, as well as to force companies to be very cautious developing new devices, due to litigation costs. I am not happy with idea of blasting up patent system, since creativity and innovation should be properly rewarded, but what is happening is plain insane. I had some interest into handelds, but I decided I will be happy with my old paper books and my cellphone: I don't want to take the risk of buying a costly device that becomes obsolete due to a patent war.

Re:Sorry, no more new handelds! (3, Insightful)

mcl630 (1839996) | more than 3 years ago | (#37063274)

The new patent war involving Apple vs. [Samsung | Motorola | Google | Nokia | Blackberry | The rest of the puny world] is going to keep consumers away from the market

While I agree the number of patent lawsuits going on, as well as these companies buying up patents to "arm" themselves against each other is quite disconcerting, the sales numbers for smartphones and tablets suggest they're not "keeping consumers away from the market." The typical smartphone buyer is probably unaware of or only vaguely aware of the patent fighting.

Re:Sorry, no more new handelds! (2)

Dr Max (1696200) | more than 3 years ago | (#37065646)

Samsung, Motorola, Google and Nokia should team up combine patents, then block all apple's products and see how they like it.

Mobile Nations (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37063160)

I troll the Mobile Nations line of websites. All pretty standard blogs (rumors, inside scoops, podcasts, etc.) that specialize in the news for each mobile platform.

www.precentral.net
www.wpcentral.com
www.androidcentral.com
crackberry.com
www.tipb.com

Engadget will pick up a story from one of them every once in a while.

FCC doesn't post everything. (1)

Anonymous Freak (16973) | more than 3 years ago | (#37063174)

Companies can request that the FCC not publish their requests until after a certain date. Apple does this all the time, usually to have the information unpublished until the day AFTER release. So FCC posts alone aren't enough.

But, yeah, plenty of websites out there that track these things.

Phandroid (1)

mcl630 (1839996) | more than 3 years ago | (#37063178)

In addition to mobile.engadget.com as others have suggested, there's www.phandroid.com [phandroid.com] . As the name suggests, it's Android specific, but has lots of good previews/reviews of upcoming/new phones and tablets. They do have an RSS feed.

Phone Feature Wishlist (1)

eepok (545733) | more than 3 years ago | (#37063242)

I build the desktops I want. I found the tablet I've always wanted. I'm yet to find the phone of my dreams.

Do Note Want:
*** Smartphone
*** Internet Connectivity - Not even the option for it. It's a (fee) trap!
*** Touchscreen - Buttons just work.

Want:
1) Phone
2) Address book and speed dial
3) Text-messaging
4) QWERTY Keyboard
5) Simple MP3 player (along the capabilities of bare-bones WinAmp)
6) Video and Still Camera with flash
7) MicroSD card slot
8) 3.5mm headphone jack
9) Micro-USB jack (for charging and data transfer)
10) Bluetooth
11) Two separate batteries in the phone (both charged at the same time). One feeds the phone and texting, the other feeds the camera and MP3 player. Because I want to have my phone in an emergency regardless of my listening to music.

Bonus points: Full user control of text font, color, background, and ring tones both in-phone and through a simple desktop application.

I'll pay $150 for this phone before 2-year contract discounts.

only multiple batteries are problematic (1)

Chirs (87576) | more than 3 years ago | (#37063692)

Pretty much everything else is already available, except for the multiple batteries. Why not have one battery and have the option for the system to disallow anything but phone/text once it drops past a certain level?

Re:Phone Feature Wishlist (1)

nadamucho (1063238) | more than 3 years ago | (#37063718)

I can give you a list of about a dozen phones which fit the bill, other than number 11. You'd be better off with an external Li-Ion battery like Energizer/XPAL. They come in many sizes, the smallest of which holds enough juice to charge an average smartphone to full at least once, in my use usually twice. You may also look into the inductive mats. The battery capacity is reduced a bit, but if you are typically listening to your music in your car or at your desk, you can leave the phone on the mat and it will stay juiced up.

Re:Phone Feature Wishlist (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37064286)

Nokia E5.
Relatively new, and nokia is still pushing updates to it.

Close in price at $180, unlocked at amazon.
GSM, world phone, will even work in Asia and Japan.

Automatic direct to pc sync over Bluetooth WITHOUT having to send your data through a third-party server for TSA-level groping by marketers desperate to data-mine your every last contact.

Everything on your list, except for the 2 batteries. And with the 2 apps, pc suite or OVI suite, you have control over the phone.
The only reason to use pc-suite is if you want one-way sync to your calendar and contacts. If two-way sync only is ok, then OVI suite.

Linked up to my pop account at my isp with no issues, so I can check my mail when I need to as well.

For this price, it'll keep you going until android or iphone catch up to symbian, or Windows phone 7 catches up to Windows Mobile 6.5.5 .

Re:Phone Feature Wishlist (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37064592)

So you want complete smartphone hardware (PLUS an extra power system for the secondary battery) with a special OS midway between smartphones and feature phones?

And for that, you're willing to pay a WHOPPING $150, except you expect to sign a two-year contract and have someone hand it to you for free or $50? When similar, but simpler, hardware running a commodity OS costs about $300?

Are you trolling, or just delusional? ...wait, aren't you the same guy who told me my U820 [engadget.com] is a smartphone? Sorry, I guess you said it's "an smartphone"! [slashdot.org]
Which still doesn't answer whether you're trolling or insane, but whichever, you've definitely taken it to 11.

Re:Phone Feature Wishlist (1)

eepok (545733) | more than 3 years ago | (#37069552)

Nice of you to respond to that in a completely different thread. You said it was an "u820". So I looked up u820 and found: http://reviews.cnet.com/cell-phones/samsung-reality-sch-u820/4505-6454_7-34078840.html [cnet.com] which is a smartphone.

And I don't want a smartphone. I want a combination of devices (Camera, Phone, MP3 player, Text Messager) that would use the same processor with a double power system to protect the most important function-- communication. That doesn't make a smartphone.

In fact, those things are standard on all "feature phones" except feature phones also come with game (demos) and are constantly trying to convince you to go their crippled versions of "the internet" to complete unnecessary tasks.

Re:Phone Feature Wishlist (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37066152)

For 11, you could, you know, look at the battery meter icon. Stop using the camera/mp3 when it drops to a low %, and use the rest as your "emergency phone and texting" battery. /facepalm

Re:Phone Feature Wishlist (1)

eepok (545733) | more than 3 years ago | (#37069666)

Of course! Why didn't anyone in the world think of that? I must be a complete fool... look at the battery icon. Jeez.

Or I could just use my separate MP3 player and not have any problem to begin with! Well, wait. Then that's more pocket clutter. So I'll get a phone with an MP3 player!

But what if I'm caught up in music walking down the road and kill my phone because I've listened to too much music (the device being kept in my pocket and not in front of my face). Oh, carry a spare battery? Good idea! Wait... pocket clutter...

You see what I'm getting at?

Imagine a phone/camera/mp3 device that just does what you want, doesn't have power-sucking graphics that you don't want, and doesn't try to up-sell you to a dozen different net-based costs! Imagine if all the engineering effort was just focused on providing great reception, great audio quality, great photo capabilities, and great battery life while preserving the most important function!

Re:Phone Feature Wishlist (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37067756)

Just get an Intercept android phone on Virgin Mobile (has real kb buttons) - 300 min / unlimited* data & text for $35/month. It's often on sale for $150. And get an external battery backup pack for 11. No contract. No data overages. No flash for the camera, but the advantages of having a GPS in your pocket outweigh that imho.

* After 2.5 GB they'll throttle your speed, but you'll still have data. Streaming videos may not work, but email will be fine.

Re:Phone Feature Wishlist (1)

eepok (545733) | more than 3 years ago | (#37069878)

While I understand that you mean the best, it's just not what I want. I specifically don't want web access. At the risk of being cliche, here's a car analogy:

Imagine you want a car with more cargo space than your 2-door commuter has and but still have sufficient power to zip around gleefully. The dealer says, "I know what you need- A Chevy Tahoe!..."
--It has a massive engine for great acceleration
--A HUGE rear cargo area
--Fits 5 very fat people, 3 kids, and a dog.
--The headrests are massive and you can install televisions in them and on the dash
--There are 12 cup holders and 4 eating trays
--And you can tow a boat!

But you don't want to tow a boat. You don't like boating. You don't want to ferry around fat people as a hobby. You don't want a massive SUV to clog up your garage or the streets. You don't want the extra expense or distraction that comes with being able to watch TV in the car. You don't want to consume all your meals in your car.

You want something small and focused. You want something that doesn't try to do everything "okay", but something that does the essentials very, very well.

Instead, you want a 4-door hatchback. It has the cargo space you need. It's zippy on the road because there's not much weight to it. It fits neatly in your garage. It gets over 30 miles to the gallon. It fits 4 adults comfortably. If you need to move house, you can rent a truck for a day.

Wireless Goodness (1)

bradlinder (2435584) | more than 3 years ago | (#37063270)

While I'll second the vote for Liliputing for completely selfish reasons (thanks Tim!), one of my favorite sites for FCC listings is http://www.wirelessgoodness.com/ [wirelessgoodness.com] . It's a tech blog that posts nothing but discoveries found on the FCC website. They often catch things the rest of us miss.

Boy Genius Report (1)

Nato2k (656189) | more than 3 years ago | (#37063596)

www.bgr.com. They cover all things handheld. www.gizmodo.com is another really good site. Both include rumors and current news on everything from hardware to software to patent trolling.

Re:Boy Genius Report (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37069528)

Problem is gizmodo is incredibly biased pro apple, even after the swat incident, the banning and lawsuit.

For the Canadians out there... (1)

AmbushBug (71207) | more than 3 years ago | (#37063670)

I mostly just follow Engadget as mentioned above and (since I'm Canadian) http://mobilesyrup.com/ [mobilesyrup.com] which covers mobile news/releases releases in Canada.

GSMArena (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37063874)

Also GSMArena

MobilityBeat Aggregator (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37064214)

The site MobilityBeat.com is a good mobile tech aggregator. It combines a number of the top mobile tech sites into one newsstream.

http://mobilitybeat.com

consume, consume, consume (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37064268)

such a good little consumer you are!

just a pawn in the game of capitalism.

Re:consume, consume, consume (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37065434)

Reads more like a set-up for a slashvertisement, to me.

Work for them (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37064534)

Just get a job at apple and you will know when all the new products come out like the rest of us. :)

jkkmobile (1)

jones_supa (887896) | more than 3 years ago | (#37066340)

I don't know if YouTube is full of these, but here is a nice mobile gadget channel [youtube.com] .

For cell phones, (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37066886)

I use the forums at
http://www.howardforums.com/forum.php
http://forums.androidcentral.com/

Several posters on these forums work for the bit phone manufacturers or wireless carriers and the speculation is that they are coached on what and when to leak info. Don't know if that's true, but they, and others, have been fairly good at getting facts before the "official" announcements.

If you're bored, take a look at the ongoing Bionic threads. You'll laugh, you'll cry, you'll wish you didn't waste all that time for so little reward.

tom

Phonescoop.com (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37067106)

Phonescoop.com provides what you're looking for and more. It details information on devices once they are posted to the FCC and then also provides demos on reviews on devices prior to release dates. It is used as a reference by wireless carrier employees on a daily basis.

Google news (1)

Dr Max (1696200) | more than 3 years ago | (#37067238)

Its not as straight forward as go to this x site and read, but if you go to Google news and type in stuff that is inevitable, you can get a good idea what each manufacture is up to. It takes a bit of guess and work and substitution, for example you know the latest smartphones now are dual core 1 ghz so if you want a next gen phone a Google news search for dual core 1.2ghz up to X ghz, smartphone, os of choice; or maybe quad core phones and it will bring back many results.

Its also helpful to search the manufactures of the parts involved in the phones. For example Nvidia have a road map for their next 4 socs (system on a chip), by looking up the next product code name you can substitute that in front of 'smartphone', and Google news will bring back information from all kinds of sources on all kinds of phones. This can be repeated for Qualcomm, Intel, Texas instruments, Samsung or screen and communication manufactures.

I highly recommend GSMArena.com (1)

ryzvonusef (1151717) | more than 3 years ago | (#37070120)

It has very through and more importantly, unbiased reviews on cellphones. I like the fact they provide rather scientific tests for audio and camera analysis of a device, as well 360 view.

Also, as site focusing solely on reviewing cellphones, they also tend to have the latest scoop.

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