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Faint Praise From WSJ For a Linux Touchscreen PC For Seniors

timothy posted more than 3 years ago | from the nicer-way-to-say-euphemism dept.

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quarterbuck writes "The Wall Street Journal has a review of the Telikin, an all-in-one desktop, with a touch screen, that starts at $699 and comes from a small Philadelphia-area start-up called Venture 3 Systems. It is much simplified (e.g., no PowerPoint editing), and the hardware is thought through (two microphones), but the review claims that the software is still buggy." I only wish it was based on a revenue stream derived from a cancellable subscription.

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Thought through? (2, Insightful)

hawguy (1600213) | more than 3 years ago | (#37077366)

I don't understand why having two microphones means that the hardware is "thought through"? Wouldn't hardware that was really "thought through" have only a single high quality microphone (or maybe an array of noise cancelling mics) instead of "an odd little add-on microphone poking out from the bottom"being necessary because "[the company] wasn't satisfied with the quality of the internal one."

And why does omitting Powerpoint Editing make for a simplified interface? Is the ability to edit Powerpoint presentations what makes other computers so complicated?

BREAKING NEWS (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37077380)

Summary of TFA is useless and misleading. More after a word from our sponsors.

Re:Thought through? (3, Funny)

Brett Buck (811747) | more than 3 years ago | (#37077730)

No, Powerpoint editing is what makes other computers EVIL!

Re:Thought through? (1)

sjwt (161428) | more than 3 years ago | (#37077874)

No, that would be Powerpoint displaying.

Edit all you want, just dont inflict that on others!

Re:Thought through? (1)

Blaskowicz (634489) | more than 3 years ago | (#37078148)

This obviously is some rebranded hardware built by a taiwanese/chinese company-with-a-thousand-names, you can bet the same hardware is old under other brands (such as acer, asus or another altogether)

It fits the bill but the microphone doesn't, because it's a physical device that needs quality and doesn't benefit from Moore's law. it makes the most sense for old people as they wish to hear and be heard when talking over it

it's a MSI computer :) (3, Informative)

Blaskowicz (634489) | more than 3 years ago | (#37078268)

there are pictures from many angles on the website, and a big "msi" brand is to be seen on the back. specs also tell implicitly it's a dual core 1.8GHz Atom.

Re:Thought through? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37079948)

And why does omitting Powerpoint Editing make for a simplified interface? Is the ability to edit Powerpoint presentations what makes other computers so complicated?

Yes. Yes, it is.

Re:Thought through? (1)

Darinbob (1142669) | more than 3 years ago | (#37082690)

Because computers designed for seniors needs powerpoint! How else are they going to do their high power presentations?

Subtlest axe job yet (3, Insightful)

symbolset (646467) | more than 3 years ago | (#37077386)

This author has promise. He doesn't go the Evangelist route. He starts by praising the system, explains his lengthy experience, and then goes on to explain that it might be good "but for" some plausible reasons that matter to the target audience - but pointing out that improvements are promised before warning that promises are often unfulfilled. The author is biased we know, but this is an awesome hatchet job. I'll give it 8 of 10. Poor placement by the vendor.

Or - which seems more likely - the product is not quite satisfactory, and a software rev would put it in the green.

Re:Subtlest axe job yet (1)

artor3 (1344997) | more than 3 years ago | (#37077484)

That's what the phrase faint praise (or more completely, "damning with faint praise") means. It's from a poem which also includes the line, "without sneering, teach the rest to sneer". It's a great way to make something or someone look bad without yourself being dismissed as biased, except by particularly astute readers. Of course, you don't see it as much these days, as the media has found even more insidious ways to say without saying, such as FUD and JAQing off.

Re:Subtlest axe job yet (1)

symbolset (646467) | more than 3 years ago | (#37077626)

I wasn't complaining that this author isn't artful. He is. Nor was I complaining about the quality of the summary, which was moderately done. I was just giving my opinion about what TFA meant. I know what faint praise is - I use it often. The author of the article is well known to have biases, but to also be most often correct even when that seems improbable. He has a rich and respectable history. I have a long history and a deep reservoir of knowledge in the field too, but when I enter his domain I respect his local knowledge and experience because he is most often right. He is the lighthouse there.

I'm typing this now wondering what your point is if you have one.

Re:Subtlest axe job yet (1)

drolli (522659) | more than 3 years ago | (#37077600)

Well to me it seems (sssuming he does not lie) a fair description.

From what he says i gather: use it for web-surfing and simple email and it works ok. But the same would be probably true for any system with a slightly revamped ui for firefox and thunderbird.

What i dont understand why he does not comment that a computer like this probably would better have a 32G flash drive that a 500G hard drive. A beginner not doing many photos, downloading/editing movies, installing several virtual machines, or having the 1000CD-collection in lossless on the harddrive wont use this space and it may be more susceptible to movements and slower.

Re:Subtlest axe job yet (2)

symbolset (646467) | more than 3 years ago | (#37077682)

Walt Mossberg is a relic to a byegone era. He doesn't lie. It's not in him. He doesn't warp the truth the slightest bit. He's quite careful to avoid the lingo of astroturfers and shills, which makes his job considerably harder. He tells the truth as he sees it. I don't always agree with him, but I always respect his opinion even when I disagree with his conclusions. His job is getting easier these days.

In an environment where every press agent, reporter and editor is a wholly owned agent of somebody, a reporter like Walt Mossberg who can't be bought is a precious gem. This environment brings us a whirlwind of ephemeral technologies, just for Walt to say "waitaminit".

Walt's not down here in the trenches with me, defending the choice of this vendor's 10GbE NIC over the other one's two years later, or calling the ball on the exact moment that we move from interested in FCoE to recommending it. But I respect his opinion enough to subscribe to his blog. If he says something's going to happen sometime in the future, I'll look at it as a prospect and investigate and make up my own mind. That's going to happen until he's wronger than he's right, which looks to be quite a while out. I don't give most prophets that much respect.

Re:Subtlest axe job yet (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37078192)

You sure are fond of this guy. Do you swallow when he asks you to?

Price point (2)

qxcv (2422318) | more than 3 years ago | (#37077390)

I can't understand what makes companies believe that they can offer a device for $699 that offers half the functionality of a (Android|Windows|Linux|Mac|WebOS) box and still have it sell. Why do companies insist on making *everything* from scratch except the kernel (the entire UX looks totally alien to me) and then release it - bugs-n-all - for review?
 
Get cheap touchscreen ARM hardware, throw Android/MeeGo/whatever on there, make your own look-and-feel changes and RELEASE IT WHEN IT'S READY. PLEASE. Customers DON'T need more market fragmentation in software and customers DON'T need a $700 paper weight running a neutered desktop OS.

Re:Price point (3, Insightful)

Gaygirlie (1657131) | more than 3 years ago | (#37077714)

Where else do you get a desktop PC with a touch-screen, stylus, and 24/7 support willing to help you with setting up Facebook account or holding your hand through writing an email? What, can you repeat that a bit louder, I can't hear you. Yes, that's right: nowhere!

This device is aimed at people who want/need a VERY simplified computing experience, so just slapping Android/MeeGo/whatever on there is not and will not be enough.

Re:Price point (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37077918)

If it were available in Spanish, I would immediately buy one for my mom. Also, please 22'' or 24'' screen: my mom's sight is not as good as it used to be.

Oh, and no need to strive to sell it cheap. If it makes Facebook, e-mail, videoconferencing and browsing the web easy, I would pay twice the price they are asking now. Old people think more about quality than about price.

Re:Price point (2)

qxcv (2422318) | more than 3 years ago | (#37078608)

Equivalent (if not better) hardware ~US$100 cheaper here [amazon.co.uk] , though admittedly I wouldn't expect anything more than palm-off from Lenovo tech support if you asked them how to set up anything more than a dialup modem on M$ Windows. OTOH I've never been a fan of purchasing products on the premise that you will receive support when/if you need it, because you USUALLY (though I could be wrong with this particular company) don't get it.</disgruntled former M$ customer>
Also their website seems to say that $699 is $100 below RRP (inferring that the cost could increase), but that's probably just something a marketoid threw in

This device is aimed at people who want/need a VERY simplified computing experience, so just slapping Android/MeeGo/whatever on there is not and will not be enough.

My point is not that Android/MeeGo/whatever necessarily has a better UX for the elderly, but I just don't see why it was necessary to cause more fragmentation in the desktop Linux marketplace. Is saying "There is a large and able developer/user base for <platform(s)>, but we're going to throw it all out and more-or-less start again from scratch" REALLY sound business practise? Is it that hard to change around the landing screen a little and add some accessibility features? Now they've (presumably) created YET ANOTHER set of widget toolkits/platform integration APIs.

Re:Price point (1)

Lennie (16154) | more than 3 years ago | (#37078756)

I think the use of Android/ARM could potentionally bring down the price a lot more than what they produced.

Re:Price point (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37080316)

They're not selling it as a true home computer. They don't want you to develop for it. They want a little sandbox that you can view pictures of the grandkids on. You are not the target market.

Re:Price point (1)

Linuxmonger (921470) | more than 3 years ago | (#37085474)

Buttons on the front isn't the same as a touch screen - this isn't equivalent hardware.

Re:Price point (1)

qxcv (2422318) | more than 3 years ago | (#37092584)

Sorry, this [amazon.co.uk] is closer (but $80 dearer as it has twice the memory and a much faster chip). I thought the one I linked to was a touchscreen, but it wasn't.

Re:Price point (1)

Dynedain (141758) | more than 3 years ago | (#37081118)

$699 to spend to give an older person their first computing experience? Give them an iPad.

We did that for my grandmother on her 80th birthday. She wanted to use email and the web, but couldn't figure out the old PC with WinXP that had been setup for her. Plus she hated waiting for the thing to turn on.

I bought an iPad, loaded it up with a decade or so of family photos, setup a Gmail account and put a few home videos on there. She loves it and even takes it along to her favorite sandwich shop.

Re:Price point (1)

murdocj (543661) | more than 3 years ago | (#37079338)

Try reading the article and maybe you'll understand.

Wow, an endorsement from Rachael Ray! (2)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | more than 3 years ago | (#37077402)

What more could you want? But seriously, folks...

I'm curious why they don't seem to list the resolution of that 18.6" screen anywhere... And why "photo viewing through Facebook"? That's a rather odd feature to list.

I'm also unclear why the submitter is apparently puzzled that the Mossberg's review says the Telikin is buggy - Mossberg is pretty specific what exact buggy behaviors and odd limitations he ran into (frequent freezes, backups don't work, can't attach photos to emails, can't "reply all" or forward email, no refresh button on the browser).

Re:Wow, an endorsement from Rachael Ray! (3, Insightful)

whoever57 (658626) | more than 3 years ago | (#37077434)

can't "reply all" or forward email

I am willing to bet that most /. readers know someone that they wish did not have access to forward and reply all buttons!

But seriously, it's a review by Walt Mossberg and it's not a Mac or an iPhone/Pod/etc. What did anyone expect?

Re:Wow, an endorsement from Rachael Ray! (1)

or-switch (1118153) | more than 3 years ago | (#37077570)

Yeah, I saw the lack of forward/reply-all and thought, "Oooh, someone on that team has a sense of humor." Of course they'll put it back in, but it's tempting to go as is and call it a real feature.

Re:Wow, an endorsement from Rachael Ray! (1)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | more than 3 years ago | (#37077598)

But seriously, it's a review by Walt Mossberg and it's not a Mac or an iPhone/Pod/etc. What did anyone expect?

Yeah, those comments he made about frequent freezes, backups that don't work, and missing functionality - what an obvious shill!

Re:Wow, an endorsement from Rachael Ray! (3)

dotancohen (1015143) | more than 3 years ago | (#37077660)

What more could you want? But seriously, folks...

I'm curious why they don't seem to list the resolution of that 18.6" screen anywhere... And why "photo viewing through Facebook"? That's a rather odd feature to list.

Because people don't want a computer, or a browser, or Linux or Windows. They want to view photos on Facebook. This gets right to the point.

Re:Wow, an endorsement from Rachael Ray! (1)

murdocj (543661) | more than 3 years ago | (#37079358)

Sigh.... if ONLY I could mod the parent up. It hits the nail on the head and drives it through the board in one blow. Well said.

Re:Wow, an endorsement from Rachael Ray! (1)

jedidiah (1196) | more than 3 years ago | (#37078428)

The fact that he thought there was no refresh button on the browser might have just been an artifact of current design trends.

Re:Wow, an endorsement from Rachael Ray! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37080172)

I'm curious why they don't seem to list the resolution of that 18.6" screen anywhere...

It's targeted at seniors. Like a former co-worker of mine who, upon upgrading from a 17" CRT at 1024x768 to a 21" CRT (capable of 1600x1200), immediately set it to 1024x768. "Because now the icons are bigger and I can read the text."

Don't you mean... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37077514)

"I only wish I could get this hardware below cost by exploiting a poorly thought-out business model"?

And who doesn't? We all like cheap hardware, and there's nothing unethical about availing yourself of someone's stupid-but-deliberate offer.

But those mistakes are infrequent to start with, and only become more rare with each new example, as people hear about it and don't repeat that mistake themselves. So why are you blathering about it?

Much simplified? (1)

BenJCarter (902199) | more than 3 years ago | (#37077590)

No cancellable subscription?
Has someone built a ninja old folks iPad?

What's the meaning of that? (1)

gmpassos (1193401) | more than 3 years ago | (#37077636)

People really want a product that says, "I'm dumb, so I need this limited thing"? iPad is much more powerful and is easy to use, for a similar price. I can't see why a "limited" computer for common tasks can compete in this market. If you buy a Netbook you still can browse, have skype and share some photos, and is cheaper. You don't need a different hardware if you want to do less things in a computer, you just need to install less softwares. Specially if this limited computer is more expensive! Some LOL will lose money with that! Buy a Netbook and remove Office, bingo, you have it. Or buy some Android/iPad tablet if you think that touchscreen is better for you, is cheaper. People that says that computers are complicated, are just people that don't want to learn new things, no matter how easy a OS was made for them.

Re:What's the meaning of that? (1)

Blaskowicz (634489) | more than 3 years ago | (#37078204)

ipad is more proprietary, less powerful and has no flash plugin. a netbook has small keys and is fragile. this thing has a dual core x86, 2GB ram, and is basically a bigger tablet with a stand built-in, USB ports and keyb/mouse included. what's your point exactly?

Re:What's the meaning of that? (1)

gnasher719 (869701) | more than 3 years ago | (#37079958)

It has a vertical touch screen. Grandma's arms will be falling off after ten minutes of use.

Linux systems need more reviews like this (2)

petes_PoV (912422) | more than 3 years ago | (#37077752)

As a community, we are far too lenient on poorly designed and buggy Linux software. What this guy has done is write a reasonably balanced and fair review of a product that appears to have been rushed out with some very visible shortcomings. That the supplier puts their hand up and acknowledges that a lot of the problems noted "will be fixed" or are known, supports this view.

This is very obviously a "version 1" product. Give it a few years and software revisions and it could be a worthwhile offering. Though personally I doubt that many of my frail, elderly relatives would find using a vertically mounted touchscreen to be in any way practical as the amount of strength needed to hold your hand up to the screen (try it) for extended periods of time is more than most of them can muster.

Re:Linux systems need more reviews like this (1)

jedidiah (1196) | more than 3 years ago | (#37078414)

"Critics" in general have no clue what a non-geek needs out of a computing experience. This includes all manner of platform partisans and isn't just limited to Linux users.

Sadly enough this also includes most "professional" designers.

Re:Linux systems need more reviews like this (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37078552)

"Critics" in general have no clue what a non-geek needs out of a computing experience.

I'd say those "critics" have a better understanding of those needs that a Linux zealot like you. You have almost zero understand of not only what non-geeks want, but also what they are willing to do with a computer.

Re:Linux systems need more reviews like this (1)

SomePgmr (2021234) | more than 3 years ago | (#37079324)

Which brings up an interesting question... is there such a thing as a computing experience that serves "non-geek needs"? It seems like such a varied thing.

It would be hard enough to design a computing experience that's very usable for, say, my mother. But assuming you could, it would have to change quite a bit for my dad. Too simplistic, and the user is aggravated. Too complicated... well, we know how that ends.

Maybe trying to make a universal user experience that works well for all non-geeks is a fools errand. I know some would say Apple has gotten as close as anyone ever has with IOS... they might be right. And yet there are times when it doesn't do what my folks would expect.

I dunno. It's a noble pursuit, but I'm not sure there's a working, universal spectrum of right and wrong to be found there.

Re:Linux systems need more reviews like this (2)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 3 years ago | (#37079768)

.. is there such a thing as a computing experience that serves "non-geek needs"? It seems like such a varied thing.

Yes. It's called an iPad. Which is why they're selling like mad and why the general Slashdot HiveMind(TM)(C)(Patent Pending) can't make any sense of it.

Re:Linux systems need more reviews like this (1)

jedidiah (1196) | more than 3 years ago | (#37080138)

The iPad is little more than a crippled Mac. The aspects of the iPad that are crippled don't have anything to do with usability.

We can make plenty sense of it. Fanboys just don't like what we come up with.

iPad apps are toys relative to what's available for other modern GUIs. Many are just ensapsulating websites that no longer work well because you're not using the form factor and types inputs that those websites were designed for. "apps" have to be simple because it's hard for the controls to keep up.

Re:Linux systems need more reviews like this (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37079032)

Actually, if you read the comments on the article, one of the engineers for the company commented and said all of the bugs from the article have been fixed already.

Re:Linux systems need more reviews like this (1)

westlake (615356) | more than 3 years ago | (#37080552)

This is very obviously a "version 1" product. Give it a few years and software revisions and it could be a worthwhile offering.

Perhaps.

But if you are 71 today, you were 41 when the IBM PC was released and 61 when Windows 95 took the world by storm.

Which means we are close to the point where ownership of a Mac or Windows PC or tablet or both can be considered a given for anyone who retires with a middle class income ---

and make no mistake about it, the $700 "net appliance" is and always has been middle class.

A product looking for a market.

VICTORY! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37078172)

Thank you everyone. It took us a long time to get to this moment.

Finally, giving people what they want! (2)

Blaskowicz (634489) | more than 3 years ago | (#37078306)

Many people have longed forever for a clean, easy, task oriented interface. Either for themselves or for a familiy member. This looks like the best design to date, and is reminiscent of the Amstrad PCW, a successful task oriented all-in-one of the eighties. Or keyboard based monochrome PDAs, or even an Apple II or PC/XT, $favorite_computer where you just insert a floppy disk and run simple, straightforward software.

Notice the lack of translucency, dock, animation and all that crap. Not including these goes toward reducing the cognitive and visual load, I guess.

Missing is a tab for audio/video playback, CD audio ripping and the like. A commenter said, why doesn't it use 32GB flash instead? don't misunderestimate a grandma, they might well fill it up with 12 megapixel photos, CD rips or even record old audio cassettes, you never know. As were speaking, a secretary somewhere that has trouble finding the start menu pwns you at using Word no matter how good your debugging and compiling skills are.

Lastly here's a good showing for Linux, it's refreshing, after the firefox debacle ruling it out in business, on top of the desktops debacle and Open/Libre Office confusion.

Re:Finally, giving people what they want! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37079122)

This is a smart concept. As the smartphone/iPad boom shows, most people are not us and only need a computer to run a half dozen tasks over and over again. A lot of those tasks are Internet based services too.

Agreed. They nailed the requirements on this (2)

presidenteloco (659168) | more than 3 years ago | (#37079484)

It's exactly the set of features that my approaching elderly parents use their computer for.

Hope the execution improves slightly, if the WSJ article's criticisms are correct, but overall I give it an A for requirements fit and usability design for the
target actor role.

Re:Finally, giving people what they want! (0)

ToasterMonkey (467067) | more than 3 years ago | (#37079678)

Lastly here's a good showing for Linux, it's refreshing, after the firefox debacle ruling it out in business, on top of the desktops debacle and Open/Libre Office confusion.

Foolish pride. This could have Windows, Solaris, [insert modern OS], etc. beneath the covers and it wouldn't affect the core functionality of a product like this. They won't have to pay per unit royalties for an OS kernel by using Linux, and that doesn't even mean they won't be paying royalties for whatever else they used to accelerate developing this thing. Hip hip hooray go team or whatever. Give credit where it is actually due.

I'm sorry man, but this Linux pride stuff just kills me. I wonder how much better software we would have today without it. The first iOS device should have made everyone look back on a decade and a half of Linux pride and wonder what it was all for. Free, not free, whatever, we need leaders, innovators, and good old entrepreneurialism, not... an OS kernel with bunch of second rate UNIX software. I don't even know why I use that four letter word, how often do y'all pipe text INTO a program designed in the last decade? Though so. Hell, most of you don't pipe text out of such a thing...

These folks are on the right track, designing software for common people, to meet specific needs. That is what we need more of, free or not. Give credit where it is due.

Re:Finally, giving people what they want! (1)

jedidiah (1196) | more than 3 years ago | (#37080166)

Any time someone does something really exotic in the Unix world, it is immediately criticized for being different. It will be criticized by exactly the same people that would elevate it as genius if done by Microsoft or Apple. The ideological case against Flash is the perfect example of this.

If I pipe text into a program designed before you were born, it's usually to deal with the failings of GUIs and commercially developed software.

This includes the shell script I used to have for my iPhone.

1998 called they want their crap back? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37078464)

1998 called they want their crap back? .... this thing, tablets, internet enabled console... this is all a conspiracy to make computers that are actually owned by the users a minority. Trusted computing didn't work and now they're trying to razzle dazzle the userbase.

What I want to know is... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37078804)

how come the elderly couple in the screen shot are pointing Wii-motes at the thing while video chatting?

Yet another kiosk vender. (1)

sgt scrub (869860) | more than 3 years ago | (#37079526)

This is another kiosk type appliance based on GNULinux. I'll give them this. Its cool to see they are up front about everything. GNU/FOSS is like a game everyone likes. They start making Mods. Then they graduate to full conversions.

Is this the year of linux (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37080100)

..on your grandma's desktop?

and will she drop to terminal and h4x0r y0r b0x3n?

Ok? So it's Eldy but.. (1)

danielpublic (1920630) | more than 3 years ago | (#37080134)

... in some probably unnecessarily fancy/expensive hardware?

Eldy [www.eldy.eu] , runs on most hardware [www.eldy.eu] , it's about a 13MB download [www.eldy.eu] free as in Gratis/Freeware and packs a Developers Network [eldy.net] for bugs, translations and so forth.

In other words: Go ahead and recycle some hardware! Get a sturdy desktop or better yet, build a frame around it if needed be or hook it to a bigger (flat)TV.

I'm sure there exists some keyboards with bigger keys today if that is a requirement. Anyhow, it would be cool with a free as in Freedom oshw keyboard [google.com] that was easy to build for the average /.-readers [slashdot.org] . Molding the keys or heck better yet, printing [reprap.org] (im sure someone would help on the forums) a mold and molding with some silicone/rubbery material.

Also known as Touchtown, circa 2001. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37081018)

I worked for this startup called ElderVision, and we offered something very much like this back in 2001 [archive.org] . It never caught on. Neither will this.

Telikin Clarifications (1)

FredAllegrezza (2437582) | more than 3 years ago | (#37090504)

I think Walt did a very through review. Unfortunately he hit a few bugs. I am not happy about this. Most are fixed or in the process of being fixed. We do have a number of users that are very happy with Telikin. We are working hard to make sure all customers have a great experience. 1) We do have a "Forward" button. We will add a "Reply All." Surprisingly I do not think any of our customers missed this or asked for this. 2) The screen resolution is 1366 x 768. I think the reason a number of people prefer Telikin over the iPad is that it is much larger (4X) and easier to read. It is also easier to use. The iPad is a great product. I do not think we will sell as many as Apple :) , but I think we have a market. 3) The Telikin comes with a keyboard and mouse so you do not have to keep your arm raised for an extended period of time. We initially had two versions, one touch one non touch. In focus group testing almost everyone preferred the touch version so we dropped the non touch. We also have folks that like the stylus. There is value in focus group testing. 4) The internal microphone was picking up too much noise from the fan. We added the external microphone to give better quality for integrated Skype Video Chat. We are working with MSI to fix the problem. In the mean time units ship with an external microphone. 5) We are adding Spreadsheets now. Powerpoint editing will be further in the future. Our customers guide our product planning. 6) The Photo app accesses Facebook photos and puts them in a very easy to user Album view. Full Facebook is accessible through the Web Browser with Flash support. 7) We do put a lot of effort into support. Our customers need it. It is part of the value proposition. Try to get that from Microsoft. Thanks for you comments. Fred Allegrezza CEO Venture 3 Systems / Telikin.

A clone? (1)

A Jew (1176261) | more than 3 years ago | (#37100628)

I watched the video on their site, and afterwards YouTube showed a video for this:
mywowcomputer.com

They look identical except for the logo. Is one of them a clone?

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