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What If Aliens Came To Save the Galaxy From Mankind?

Unknown Lamer posted more than 3 years ago | from the captain-alien's-gonna-kill-humanity dept.

Sci-Fi 534

astroengine writes with an amusing piece in Discovery. From the article: "In a study carried out by NASA and Pennsylvania State University scientists, several intelligent extraterrestrial encounter scenarios are examined. One of the scenarios is a sci-fi favorite: what if we encounter an alien race hellbent on destroying us? However, there's a twist. This isn't mindless thuggery on behalf of the aliens, and they're not killing us to get at our natural resources; they have a cause. They want to exterminate us for the greater good of the Milky Way."

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It's our own damn fault (4, Funny)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 3 years ago | (#37139780)

We could always have voiced our objections against the interstellar express route.

Re:It's our own damn fault (1)

Noughmad (1044096) | more than 3 years ago | (#37139790)

But we'd need manned space flight for that. NASA isn't doing much to help us here, our best hope is SETI finding Beeblebrox in time.

Re:It's our own damn fault (2)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 3 years ago | (#37139958)

Hey, I didn't make the rules, bureaucracy applies to everyone equally. If humankind can't be assed to leave its planet, it's not the fault of the intergalactic bureaucratic agency.

Re:It's our own damn fault (1)

iamhassi (659463) | more than 3 years ago | (#37140120)

You do know there's other countries on this planet that could be exploring space. When your credit score drops it is not a good time to be buying shiney new cars and speeding around in them.

Re:It's our own damn fault (1)

bjourne (1034822) | more than 3 years ago | (#37139952)

But Sir, the plans have been available in the local planning office for the last nine months!

We're no danger to the Galaxy... (5, Insightful)

Mage66 (732291) | more than 3 years ago | (#37139786)

At our technological level, we pose no danger to anything off this planet.

It would be like saying you'll sterilize a grain of sand to protect the planet.

Such a silly scenario...

If we ever develop interstellar travel that is fast, cheap and practical, maybe then this scenario starts to have legs.

Re:We're no danger to the Galaxy... (1)

Jarik C-Bol (894741) | more than 3 years ago | (#37139826)

exactly. My first thought reading this is 'Someone seriously thinks we are tearing shit up THAT bad?'

Re:We're no danger to the Galaxy... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37139910)

We have the Greenpeace idiots, which seem to care more about the planet than our species and individuals. Adding aliens to the mix won't change things.
But having aliens coming from light years away because they're of an environmental bent seems unlikely, but they're aliens, so who knows.

What they should be afraid is territory wars. When the Americas were discovered the natives were swiftly removed. And they were human. What do you think our great*n-grand-children will do when they live on an overpopulated planet and find one with just a handful of natives?

Re:We're no danger to the Galaxy... (1)

pinfall (2430412) | more than 3 years ago | (#37140024)

Of course you agree that aliens are like ninjas. Also
Aliens have seen many futures.
Aliens don't like republicans or southern folks (hence probing)
Aliens post in /

Therefor we are totally screwed.

Re:We're no danger to the Galaxy... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37140170)

My first thought reading this is 'Someone seriously thinks we are tearing shit up THAT bad?'

Deforestation, strip mining, depleting the fisheries, poisoning the air and water, paving over huge tracts of land, expanding to inhabit every corner of the globe?

Wake up. This is an absolutely pathological pattern of behavior for a species to exhibit.

Re:We're no danger to the Galaxy... (1)

iamhassi (659463) | more than 3 years ago | (#37140184)

That was my first thought too, then I thought WTF could we do to stop them? Seriously who knows what technology they'd have, could be nearly invincible like independence day or die from a simple virus like War of the Worlds. And we can't even figure out how to stop using our US Govt credit card, if aliens do come to destroy us it's probably because they were tired us hearing us ask for a loan.

Re:We're no danger to the Galaxy... (1)

SecurityGuy (217807) | more than 3 years ago | (#37140234)

Nah, somebody watched "The Day the Earth Stood Still" when they were a kid. So I figure if they show up, we just say Klaatu barado nikto and all will be fine.

Re:We're no danger to the Galaxy... (1)

secretsquirel (805445) | more than 3 years ago | (#37139834)

"It would be like saying you'll sterilize a grain of sand to protect the planet."

plausible scenario

Re:We're no danger to the Galaxy... (2)

Gideon Wells (1412675) | more than 3 years ago | (#37139892)

Spoken like a true primative unaware @Ffnnllij$##*!. The environmental damage you are causing to @Ffnnllij$##*! is atrocious beyond imagining. Just because you are a developing planet does not excuse your crimes against sentience, non-sentience living and even common quarks. Human, you disgust me worse than the acts of Grivaloud the Liatonajikirous.

Re:We're no danger to the Galaxy... (0)

Mage66 (732291) | more than 3 years ago | (#37139966)

I hear your planet exiles it's Enviro-wackos to interstellar space.

In fact, we got this guy who adopted the Earth name
"Al Gore" who is from your planet. Can you take him with you on your way out?

And don't let the asteroid belt hit you in your thrusters as you accelerate to a significant portion of C!

Re:We're no danger to the Galaxy... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37140096)

More current to the thrusters! More Coulombs! Post haste!

That would be a lowercase c by the way.

Re:We're no danger to the Galaxy... (1)

Eraesr (1629799) | more than 3 years ago | (#37139900)

What about those massive black holes that will suck up the entire universe, caused by the LHC? The Daily Mail promised us they would be there.

LHC micro black holes (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#37140148)

What about those massive black holes that will suck up the entire universe, caused by the LHC?

Micro black holes created by the LHC may be "massive" in that they have rest mass, but they're not "massive" in the sense of sticking around very long before evaporating into Hawking radiation. See the scientific consensus [wikipedia.org] .

Re:We're no danger to the Galaxy... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37139992)

If we ever develop that technology and this scenario happens, it will be after diplomatic relations fail. It's just stupid to go plowing into a space-faring civilization without learning to communicate first.

Re:We're no danger to the Galaxy... (2)

Gaygirlie (1657131) | more than 3 years ago | (#37140048)

At our technological level, we pose no danger to anything off this planet.

Not now, no. But once we advance enough technologically and can actually move around in space with relative easy...well, mankind has shown extraordinary talent for selfishness and greed and wanton destruction of even our own planet just to please our short-term interests. If we do this to our OWN planet then what do you think we would do to something where we do not live?

I'd actually be pretty sympathetic with the aliens and wouldn't mind them annihilating the human race completely.

Re:We're no danger to the Galaxy... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37140176)

I'd be sympathetic if they just went after you.

Re:We're no danger to the Galaxy... (2)

Mindcontrolled (1388007) | more than 3 years ago | (#37140050)

In case that grain of sand was contaminated with, say, a fast-spreading, airborne Ebola variant, I'd consider sterilizing it indeed. And rather before I'd have to sterilize a whole city the thermonuclear way...

Re:We're no danger to the Galaxy... (1)

Leslie43 (1592315) | more than 3 years ago | (#37140052)

We already put a bunch of stuff into physical space, crashed probes into comets, and put a bunch of junk on the moon and mars. It only takes a few microbes to ruin an ecosystem. Nasa has implemented safeguards (after having put some into space), but will those safeguards be taken into account when privateers start heading out?

And what happens once we do colonize Mars or the moon, both of which we could technically do now if we wanted. We could be seen as spreading like a virus at that point, some already see us as such. Take a look at what we have done to this planet so far. You don't think if we had interstellar travel that we wouldn't exploit/trash any planet we came across?

All those movies like Independence Day where they come for our resources, we're it.

Re:We're no danger to the Galaxy... (1)

Stargoat (658863) | more than 3 years ago | (#37140274)

Privateers? You mean private enterprises, right?

'Cause I think we could use privateers in space. Arrrr. With me letters of reprisals and letters of marque, I shall cruise the interstellar shipping routes of my nation's enemies in search of plundar.

Re:We're no danger to the Galaxy... (2)

Joe Tie. (567096) | more than 3 years ago | (#37140110)

On one hand I agree, but on the other I think that's also extrapolating a bit too much of our way of thinking onto an alien species. To us, that kind of future might feel very distant and not in any way written in stone. But a species with a far longer lifespan, or one which doesn't even experience age related death anymore, might not look at things within the same timeframe. And what seems like free will and complex choices in social development to us might seem like little more than easily predictable blind instinct to them.

That said, I do agree the concept is pretty silly. I think it's pretty certain that if aliens were able to get here in the first place, that shows a level of technology we couldn't do anything against even if it was an enemy we understood. I suspect the main motivation was people wondering if they could get paid for sitting around and talking scifi for the day. Can't say I blame them if that's the case.

Re:We're no danger to the Galaxy... (1)

Z00L00K (682162) | more than 3 years ago | (#37140124)

They are worried about all the bugs that we send out into space on our probes. The bugs arriving at a different planet will have no natural enemies and can procreate freely and outcompete local life.

Re:We're no danger to the Galaxy... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37140152)

Any technology that can cross interstellar distances in whatever span of our civilization you care to measure, can obliterate all life on Earth.

Re:We're no danger to the Galaxy... (2)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 3 years ago | (#37140232)

Depends on what you mean by danger. Physical threat, probably not, but what about ideas? Religions, for example, are self-replicating ideas that can spread throughout human populations. It's (barely) plausible that we may be broadcasting something that has a similar effect on non-human minds.

Re:We're no danger to the Galaxy... (1)

iamhassi (659463) | more than 3 years ago | (#37140282)

At our technological level, we pose no danger to anything off this planet.

It would be like saying you'll sterilize a grain of sand to protect the planet.

Such a silly scenario...

If we ever develop interstellar travel that is fast, cheap and practical, maybe then this scenario starts to have legs.

We've made huge strides in the past hundred years, going from first flight to the moon, and we could have gone to mars already if we had the financial means. When you look at the 200,000 year timeline of humans 100 years is just the last little speck, so if I was an alien race looking at man I'd be thinking "WTF they already made it to their nearest moon?! Ok we better do something, no telling where they'll be in another speck or two."

Priorities. (-1, Offtopic)

Xest (935314) | more than 3 years ago | (#37139788)

I like how it's been known for at least 4 hours now that HP, the biggest producer of PCs in the world is dropping it's PC and tablet division and moving to focus entirely on software.

Yet, rather than post that news, Slashdot has posted this.

Thank you editors, obviously your ability to ensure Slashdot is a relevant source of IT news goes well beyond anything anyone else could imagine.

It's okay though, at least we'll be prepared if aliens attack I guess.

Re:Priorities. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37139818)

What If Aliens Came To Save the Galaxy From Mankind? ... Friday August 19, @08:18PM

HP Spinning Off WebOS and Exiting Hardware Business .... Friday August 19, @06:02AM

STFU [slashdot.org]

Re:Priorities. (1)

Sparrow1492 (1962256) | more than 3 years ago | (#37139824)

You must be new here . . .

Re:Priorities. (1)

Z00L00K (682162) | more than 3 years ago | (#37140146)

You must have flown in from 4chan...

(hides from flamethrower)

Re:Priorities. (1)

benjamindees (441808) | more than 3 years ago | (#37139888)

Any Slashdotter worth his salt has known for years that HP computers suck. It's not news.

Re:Priorities. (1)

MindCrusher (1249502) | more than 3 years ago | (#37139904)

you must be OLD here!

Been done (2)

Nursie (632944) | more than 3 years ago | (#37139792)

Alastair Reynolds explores this scenario in his Revelation Space series. The inhibitors come to eat anyone that progresses too far to keep a greater threat in check (IIRC).

Fantastic space opera, if you haven't read them yet.

Re:Been done (1)

Noughmad (1044096) | more than 3 years ago | (#37139810)

Also many times in Star Trek, especially in Enterprise when both Xindi and Romulans try to prevent the forming of the Federation.

More hubris (1)

chronosan (1109639) | more than 3 years ago | (#37139794)

The galaxy is freakin' huge. Unless the aliens are from the systems closest to Earth, there's no reason they'd give a damn.

Re:More hubris (1)

Tukz (664339) | more than 3 years ago | (#37139870)

And how the hell can we affect the entire Milky Way?

Unless the "aliens" are sick of our TV and Radio broadcasts.
Though, that would require the aliens planet to be within 100 light years, which is improbable.

Re:More hubris (1)

c0lo (1497653) | more than 3 years ago | (#37139912)

And how the hell can we affect the entire Milky Way?

Unless the "aliens" are sick of our TV and Radio broadcasts. Though, that would require the aliens planet to be within 100 light years, which is improbable.

Well, I think is too late already.
TFS:

Of course, ETI might just be an aggressive race, so like Stephen Hawking's recent warning, the authors of the study suggest that perhaps we shouldn't transmit too much information into space.

As I said, is too late; even FBI can't help itself to keep quiet [slashdot.org]

On the "bright side": with such a scenario, who the hell will need terrorists to keep the populace in check?

Re:More hubris (1)

maxwell demon (590494) | more than 3 years ago | (#37140054)

Well, maybe we are soon to find some yet unknown to us law of physics which allows to travel through the galaxy (via hyperspace, warp drive, star gate, whatever). Given our current state of science, they know we will soon find it (maybe traces of it can be found in the energy range of the LHC). An alien attack already assumes that such a way to travel has to exist (otherwise, how would the aliens get to here in order to destroy us?). So they destroy us before we find it, because they know that afterwards the won't be able to any more.

Re:More hubris (1)

maxwell demon (590494) | more than 3 years ago | (#37140012)

Well, maybe the aliens already have been at most 1.5 light years from us. Why? Well, in 1974 we sent a message. [wikipedia.org] In 1977, we received a signal which could have been a message. [wikipedia.org] Isn't it likely that it was meant as an answer to our message? This also explains why we never received another signal: We didn't answer to this one, so the aliens concluded we are no longer interested.

OK, the Wow! signal came from the wrong direction (i.e. not the one we sent into), but that's easily explained: It was a lesser space ship which got the message. They told their master ship about the signal, and that master ship then sent the answer. Which implies that they have been even closer, because you have to factor in the time the message to the master ship needed.

OK, I admit the more likely explanation is that both signals are completely unrelated to each other, and the Wow! signal was just from a natural cause. But at least, it would be a nice theory for a science fiction plot.

Re:More hubris (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37140060)

Religion is the reason. The same reason some Gaia zealots want to get rid of modern civilization so that the earth can exist in a pre-human state.

twist? (2)

gbjbaanb (229885) | more than 3 years ago | (#37139802)

I thought that was a staple scenario in its entirety. I saw The Day the Earth Stood Still [imdb.com] (both of them [imdb.com] ) where the aliens come to say "yo, we've come to save the earth. From you losers".

One twist is where the aliens think they need to save the earth from us, but really we're the good guys in a galactic conspiracy (or bureaucracy), like David Brin's Uplift trilogy [wikipedia.org] .

Re:twist? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37139916)

I was thinking something similar, this idea has been around for a while, see Have Spacesuit - Will Travel by Robert Heinlein (1958).

Re:twist? (1)

Cornwallis (1188489) | more than 3 years ago | (#37140026)

Great book. Read it in elementary school almost 50 years ago and just re-read it. It still holds its own.

Re:twist? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37140074)

> like David Brin's Uplift trilogy [wikipedia.org].

And Mass Effect.

Arthur C Clarke's more interesting scenario (1)

Beautyon (214567) | more than 3 years ago | (#37139814)

'Childhood's End' is a book with a superb scenario, without the imagination-less superimposing of human ideas, methods and motivations onto ETs, who, by the way, absolutely must exist, and who do come here regularly.

After decades of writing, speculation, insights and research devoted to this subject, the usual suspects keep coming up with the same tired ideas and human centered dogma. There is a reason for this; they are all paid no matter what the quality of their ideas is, because none of them can be implemented, and the State is paying no matter what they come up with.

Re:Arthur C Clarke's more interesting scenario (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37140238)

ETs...who do come here regularly.

No, they don't.

Oh, sorry, did you want some evidence? After you.

Trent did it too. (1)

Skye X (2441552) | more than 3 years ago | (#37139820)

This is 100% the plot of the story told by the concept album Year Zero.

Re:Trent did it too. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37139878)

Funny. Thought there was no plot there, just brain dead, alcohol & drug induced, run of the mill leftardianism. And yes, I do own the album.

Plan 9 (1)

sourcerror (1718066) | more than 3 years ago | (#37140132)

And of Plan 9 From Outerspace, and The Day The Earth Stood Still.

aliens exterminating us... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37139854)

i say what a waist of money to let ppl come up with that stuff.... i could had told them straight away that that will not happen, because we will already be our own downfall, we will not advance enough in time on spacetravel, before we destroy our own planet, by means over over population and depleting our natural resources.

What if? (1)

Andtalath (1074376) | more than 3 years ago | (#37139874)

Aliens where popsicles?

Ffs.

Stuff that matters?

Lost cause? (1)

Forget4it (530598) | more than 3 years ago | (#37139882)

It already happened - God arrived ...
but humanity lately is turning out to be a bit of a lost cause!

Re:Lost cause? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37139940)

Spaghetti Monster is gonna save us all!

Re:Lost cause? (1)

c0lo (1497653) | more than 3 years ago | (#37139950)

It already happened - God arrived ... but humanity lately is turning out to be a bit of a lost cause!

Indeed [venganza.org] .

With MAFIAA so dead-set on pirates, no wonder the global warming [wikipedia.org] . But I think FSM still loves us.

Re:Lost cause? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37139956)

It already happened - God arrived ...
but humanity lately is turning out to be a bit of a lost cause!

Do you mean a real god or the one the pope uses as an excuse to cover up the sexual abuse of small boys?

Re:Lost cause? (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#37140220)

Jesus M. Christ, the Son of God, apparently took office in heaven sometime last century (Jehovah's Witnesses claim 1914, but other evidence points to 1934) and deported Satan from heaven. The result: world war on Earth, and your planet's next.

I've seen this before (1)

UDChris (242204) | more than 3 years ago | (#37139890)

I believe this was done in of Titan A.E. They just weren't very thorough about it.

I think aliens would be intelligent enough (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37139896)

not to eat us, kill us, us, but they would share knowledge with us, free energy(e=mc2) and teach us to live in harmony with the Universe.

Re:I think aliens would be intelligent enough (1)

maxwell demon (590494) | more than 3 years ago | (#37140064)

No, the aliens are intelligent enough not to share knowledge with us.

So long, and thank for all the.... (1)

E.I.A (2303368) | more than 3 years ago | (#37139898)

Will they take the dolphins with them?

Re:So long, and thank for all the.... (1)

Z00L00K (682162) | more than 3 years ago | (#37140186)

They are the dolphins.

Re:So long, and thank for all the.... (1)

stealth_finger (1809752) | more than 3 years ago | (#37140222)

Will they take the dolphins with them?

So long, and thanks for all the fish.

what's pollution to them? (1)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 3 years ago | (#37139914)

what's pollution to them? maybe they'd think were actually terraforming since human population is on the rise and will remain at high levels even if all borders were closed and all hell broke loose - as information on how to make food is spread now to every corner of the earth, even if things went bad we would have that know how and steel to make instruments out of, better than ever before.

the article takes the assumption that the human race is sinful and presents that as not just global but as an universal truth.
anyhow, this is something explored a lot in sci-fi, from fifties to today.

but, their reaction would largely depend on the contrast our civilization has against the other civilizations they'd have encountered before. if ours were the first, they wouldn't even know what they're going to do. maybe they'd run into an ideological chaos period in their own civilization, which pretty much happened in europe when the new world was found and the slave business was booming.

Re:what's pollution to them? (1)

Z00L00K (682162) | more than 3 years ago | (#37140196)

What we are to aliens is what ants are to us. We can study, occassionally put a stick or a bait into the stack and watch what happens.

What a load of bull. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37139924)

First of all if aliens visited us with the intention of extinguishing us to save the galaxy it is likely that they would have become more advanced and would have expanded further into the galaxy than we have.

Second of all, the fact that they simply want to destroy us would mean that they would automatically be a more destructive race than us and therefore are hypocrites.

Third, unless they could travel faster than the speed of light they would have to have started travelling to us a long time ago in order to somehow know we are a threat. This emphasizes my first point.

And they did this... why? (1)

demonlapin (527802) | more than 3 years ago | (#37139970)

If a species has managed to conquer interstellar travel in reasonable time spans, I'm pretty sure they have developed energy sources that are powerful enough to wipe us out before we even know what hit us. A gentle nudge on a few asteroids, and BOOM. No more life above microscopic size.

Re:And they did this... why? (1)

RivenAleem (1590553) | more than 3 years ago | (#37140090)

Forget that. Go to the Ender books and see what happens when an alien species decides to terraform with a virus. Or look at Fallen Dragon, and Gamma Soak. But what we really should be considering is what cultural model would an alien race _have_ to be in order to achieve interstellar travel.

The only reason we haven't got colony ships and space stations is because of money, and the desire to do it. Remove money/funding from the equation, and give a suitable motivation and you can 'bootstrap' yourself like in the Time/Space books. There's so much in the way of resources available, so easy to obtain either A) on the moon where 1/6th gravity would allow easy re-launch, or B) farther out at asteroid belts (remember that asteroids are the remains of planet-type things) and you really have no reliance on Earth.

Thus we must consider whether we meet up with Vulcans who are 'peaceful' or Klingons who are 'warlike'. What motivation will the alien race we meet have for having gone to space. Friendly exploration (and uplift) or Conquest and eradication.

Many cultural changes will have to happen on Earth before we advance to space. I find it very unlikely that a corporation will independently expand to space for mining/manufacturing. The barrier to entry is too great. The cost to do it will have to be removed, either by it being a global/governmental initiative, or money, as er know it, will already be gone, people preferring to work for the greater good.

Re:And they did this... why? (1)

ccguy (1116865) | more than 3 years ago | (#37140200)

Go to the Ender books and see what happens when an alien species decides to terraform with a virus

If that Ender sent us history books from the future I think we have nothing to worry about, we've got a nice dude on our side

Radio Allergy (1)

jlebrech (810586) | more than 3 years ago | (#37139976)

What if Aliens were allergic to the radio signals coming from earth, and they wanted to "switch it off"

Re:Radio Allergy (1)

RivenAleem (1590553) | more than 3 years ago | (#37140108)

I for one welcome our Snooki eradicating overlords.

Re:Radio Allergy (1)

Z00L00K (682162) | more than 3 years ago | (#37140212)

Read the Conqueror [amazon.com] trilogy.

Re:Radio Allergy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37140316)

You mean, like this [qntm.org] ?

Gone straight to plaid, right past ludicrous (2, Insightful)

Shivetya (243324) | more than 3 years ago | (#37139986)

really, the global warming scare factory blew right past hyperactive speed and went straight to plaid.

It is crap like this that makes it hard for many to believe there are is any seriousness in the global warming let alone man causing it or making it worse. I cringed while reading this article. I am not sure if its more of a creepy cringe or just offensive to real thinking

Its time to get the zealots out of the lead roles, they are no more than Bible thumping tent preachers, whats next, snakes?

Re:Gone straight to plaid, right past ludicrous (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37140134)

Have you married your cousin yet?

Matter (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37140018)

What about the conservation law? Matter cannot be created or destroyed.. nothing can be made from nothing... humans are not even destroying earth. all these plastic bottles have been here for millions of years in a different state of matter. the sun has had way more activity in the past few years than before causing many solar storms. even CO2 emissions.. people always say cars and power plants are destroying earth.. but that's wrong.. Plants use CO2 to make oxygen which we need. all this global warming and doom scenario stuff is to cause ignorant people to give greedy people more money.. i heard also they were trying to warn about global cooling in the 70s and an upcoming ice age. so.. if we were to go harvest 99% of mars to make a new whatever then perhaps an alien race would see us as a parasite.

Easy peasy... (1)

MrWeelson (948337) | more than 3 years ago | (#37140022)

Just have the Slim Whitman records on standby.

Simples.

Can they take all Muslims off our planet... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37140044)

... and relocate them to Venus? Or some other planet in some other galaxy?

Re:Can they take all Muslims off our planet... (1)

mcarp (409487) | more than 3 years ago | (#37140162)

How about all theists?

What bilge (3, Insightful)

medcalf (68293) | more than 3 years ago | (#37140080)

The perfect storm of magical thinking and self hatred.

Aliens have no free will (3, Interesting)

swehack (975617) | more than 3 years ago | (#37140082)

I think it's unlikely, and not just because the Universe is huge and travelling at the speed of light is a paradox. (not a scientist) Simple social observations, we have free will, our free will creates great works of art, science, invention, engineering, we think outside the box because we have unique perspectives on life. Just like all things, this comes with a downside. The downside is of course that not all of us think about art when we think outside the box, some think about murdering people and exploiting them for their resources. So to assume that an alien race where they have achieved the goals of intergalactic space travel through free thought and innovation, the idea that this alien race would think we were more evil than them because we wage wars and kill each other is laughable. Because if they have the same free will, the same free innovation and free thinking free spirited individuals as we do then they would by that logic have the same evil, the same murders and the same exploitation.

We fight, of course (1)

jlar (584848) | more than 3 years ago | (#37140092)

"We must meet this threat with our courage, our valor, indeed with our very lives to ensure that human civilization, not insect, dominates this galaxy *now and always*!"

- Sky Marshal Dienes

A 50's Movie (1)

nullhero (2983) | more than 3 years ago | (#37140098)

Same scenario as the movie "The Day The Earth Stood Still" sans Keanu Reeves. We win, why? I don't remember but I do remember that we are on borrowed time. Surprised that Hollywood as tried to do a sequel of the Aliens coming back after 60 years and saying:

"You know what Earth? We screwed up last time. Say goodbye to all of this...and hello to oblivion."

"Hello Oblivion, how's the wife and kids."

Remember what the term "scientist" used to mean? (1, Insightful)

Attila Dimedici (1036002) | more than 3 years ago | (#37140122)

Do you remember when the term "scientist" applied to people who did science? We used to reserve the title "scientist" for people who did repeatable experiments. People like the ones referred to in this article were called "science fiction writers" with the key word being "fiction".

Re:Remember what the term "scientist" used to mean (1)

Karellen (104380) | more than 3 years ago | (#37140154)

Ahem [wikimedia.org] .

and nothing of value would be lost (2)

rbrausse (1319883) | more than 3 years ago | (#37140138)

the paper describes plenty of contact scenarios, but I like the cherry-picking: only doomsday references are TFS-worthy

Maybe they simply destroy our economy (1)

gatkinso (15975) | more than 3 years ago | (#37140166)

Just enough to make space travel impractical.

After all, if they are bent on saving the galaxy, this would imply they are peaceful. So rather than nuke us or harvest us for our brains, they simply cause the market to crash.

Seems like a more "humane" course of action to me.

Re:Maybe they simply destroy our economy (1)

ccguy (1116865) | more than 3 years ago | (#37140214)

Re:Maybe they simply destroy our economy

..by lending us a few trillion dollars and then stopping new loans completely plus demanding payments for the old ones?
Nasty bastards those aliens.

Foretold by Ed Wood (1)

qwertyatwork (668720) | more than 3 years ago | (#37140172)

Soon we will discover Solarbonite. The aliens in their round space ships that look like square houses in the ground when landed must stop us!

No need to worry really ... (1)

jopet (538074) | more than 3 years ago | (#37140244)

we will have exterminated most of ourselves long before we will find find (if at all) the technical ability to get even close to harming any planet other than our own.
If there are aliens and if they are intelligent they probably know that already.

So the only threat we could face is aliens who want to exterminate us for the sheer fun of doing it.

Unless the aliens... (1)

codegremlin (1615705) | more than 3 years ago | (#37140246)

Unless the aliens plan to travel to earth on flying carpets powered by groovy love and destroy us by throwing their hippie sandals at us, then surely they must also possess advanced technology and some kind industry and would't see our industrial and technological civilization (and reject all industry/technology in general) as "pollution" and "earth destroying".

Believe it or not... (1)

bhunachchicken (834243) | more than 3 years ago | (#37140260)

This is actually the plot of Plan 9 From Outerspace!

IIRC, the aliens are trying to eliminate the human race because they have developed a weapon of ultimate destruction and threaten the entire galaxy.

Or it might just be an example of bad film... :)

Greg Egan: Quarantine (1)

dbIII (701233) | more than 3 years ago | (#37140264)

Greg Egan's "Quarantine" has a nice twist on this. By observing the universe we collapse a lot of possible quantum states dooming billions so the earth is enclosed by aliens in an opaque sphere. Like all Greg Egan novels that's just one of many plot points and it gets even weirder from there and that story becomes a sort of cyberpunk novel.

This is why people don't give NASA enough support. (1)

bhartman34 (886109) | more than 3 years ago | (#37140278)

The reason NASA is facing the problems it is with the public is because of ridiculous things like this. The idea that a civilization from another planet would consider us a threat to our galaxy is preposterous, and the article doesn't even begin to make a case for it.

Let's just get them at the table (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37140280)

Couldn't we just sit down and talk to them? I'm sure we could reason with them, just like we have done with Iran.

Do they need help? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37140322)

I'd help!

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