×

Welcome to the Slashdot Beta site -- learn more here. Use the link in the footer or click here to return to the Classic version of Slashdot.

Thank you!

Before you choose to head back to the Classic look of the site, we'd appreciate it if you share your thoughts on the Beta; your feedback is what drives our ongoing development.

Beta is different and we value you taking the time to try it out. Please take a look at the changes we've made in Beta and  learn more about it. Thanks for reading, and for making the site better!

Twitter To Meet With UK Government About Riots

timothy posted more than 2 years ago | from the paper-and-whistle-makers-too-I-hope dept.

Twitter 186

conner_bw writes "Twitter has confirmed that it will meet with the UK Home Secretary on Thursday, after being called in for discussions over the role it played in the recent UK riots. Twitter will send a representative to the meeting scheduled for August 25. Both Facebook and RIM will also send representatives to the meeting in regards to their effects on the riots."

cancel ×
This is a preview of your comment

No Comment Title Entered

Anonymous Coward 1 minute ago

No Comment Entered

186 comments

Other representatives (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37172822)

Will there be representatives from the telephone company, and the postal services, to answer for the roles they played in the riots? What about mainstream print, radio, and television media who made others aware of the riots, and carried the idea of unrest to others, who then joined in?

The communication medium is but the messenger.

Re:Other representatives (5, Insightful)

bennomatic (691188) | more than 2 years ago | (#37172872)

I heard most of those rioters wore shoes. Maybe shoe companies should be taken to task for all the malfeasance they enable.

Re:Other representatives (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37173268)

Actually, with the cooperation of the shoe companies, shoe stores, and facial recognition technology, maybe Scotland Yard can make casts of the myriad shoe impressions at some of the scenes, and it would be possible to link certain particular shoe impressions to surveillance footage of the people purchasing the shoes at local retail chains.

Why, the convergence of digital DNA and cutting edge technology like this could spark a revolution in shoe-based criminal justice!

Re:Other representatives (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37173604)

The shoe company can't add software that automatically scans for riotousness talk and tag those users for investigation.

Re:Other representatives (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37174744)

Of course not, but that's only because we don't talk with our feet (unless of course one is deaf and armless, and practices sign language...).

But perhaps if shoe companies learn from this missed opportunity, the footware industry will be willing to join with law enforcement in a collaborative effort to surrepititiously insert a tiny chip, no larger than a grain of rice, in shoes likely to be purchased by military-aged-males, which integrates a 3G wireless transmitter, RFID, and an accelerometer, so the the authorities can analyze the data for riotous gaits, and follow up on THOSE leads with additional investigation.

Of course this would also demand a sister team of analysts keeping tabs on popular footware trends, in case styles shift toward feminine footware, indicating a growing awareness or full-blown discovery of this secret surveillance program...

Re:Other representatives (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37173914)

Yes, but both the freedom fighters and the looters were wearing shoes and using phones. Obviously we need to prevent the bad guys from getting phones and shoes while letting freedom fighters get phones and shoes, and I'm sure that politicians will promise us that they have a reliable way to it, and commercial businesses will tell the politicians it is technically possible, if only we would give them sufficient power to do so.

[Hint: think about what the people in power want, and it all starts to make sense]

Re:Other representatives (2)

AthanasiusKircher (1333179) | more than 2 years ago | (#37174362)

I heard most of those rioters wore shoes.

I heard most of those rioters had feet. Maybe we should look into those parents who have been plotting for years to enable the riots, by raising those ambulatory children... teaching them to stand erect, to walk, even to run and evade capture.

Re:Other representatives (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37172962)

This story needed only one comment, and that was it. Fuck me, this actually seems worse than Blair. I figured to top him the next leader would have to run around a primary school with an erection, yet somehow Cameron manages something equally repulsive while keeping his little soldier safe from draughts.

Re:Other representatives (1)

jenningsthecat (1525947) | more than 2 years ago | (#37173242)

Mod parent up! I was just about to say the same thing, but you said it better.

And when did it become OK to shift responsibility and blame to anywhere and everywhere except the people who actually committed the crimes?

Re:Other representatives (3, Insightful)

PopeRatzo (965947) | more than 2 years ago | (#37173958)

And when did it become OK to shift responsibility and blame to anywhere and everywhere except the people who actually committed the crimes?

When a small group of banksters committed fraud to crash the world economy, ruining lives and pushing hundreds of millions of people into poverty or economic uncertainty.

Don't fool yourself. The biggest crimes are the ones where it's " OK to shift responsibility and blame to anywhere and everywhere except the people who actually committed the crimes". And the same people who paid for those crimes are going to pay for the crimes that occur when social contracts break down and civil violence occurs: everyone but the ones responsible.

Re:Other representatives (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37174584)

Citation? And hopefully not the National Enquirer. Who are these masked bankmen?

Re:Other representatives (1)

techsoldaten (309296) | more than 2 years ago | (#37173352)

Speaking with a cab driver here in London this morning, he claimed there have been 1,900 arrests in London over the riots. 1,900 would seem a remarkably high number, and I challenged him on it. He said it was information he gathered from some sort of official who was a fare the previous day.

If they did arrest this number of people, it's remarkable and I would strongly suspect collusion from social media outlets as part of the roundup effort. GPS on your phone, anyone?

Re:Other representatives (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37173412)

Why go that far? 1900 arrests seems reasonable if the police resort to the simple expedient of going to a riot and arresting rioters.

Not everything calls for CSI-level sleuthing.

Re:Other representatives (1)

techsoldaten (309296) | more than 2 years ago | (#37174382)

He was claiming 1,900 people were arrested since the riots, not at them. Not sure how that gets done efficiently without some technological assistance.

Re:Other representatives (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37173414)

I love how the gov'ts love to go blah blah blah blah instead of helping to fix the causes that caused people to want to riot in the first place. Plenty of $$$$$$ to flap gums but not actualy fix things

Re:Other representatives (2)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 2 years ago | (#37173422)

Dear Sirs, Downing Street Hacks, and assorted Parliamentarians: We simply convey the tweets. Your nasty little island produced the twits tweeting them.

Yours sincerely,
A useless, but harmless, web startup from somewhere that hasn't had any rioting issues lately.

Re:Other representatives (1)

Ol Olsoc (1175323) | more than 2 years ago | (#37173504)

GB has to be the most reactionary country in the world. Twitter's part in the riots?

Looks like the country is going to go into lockdown mode for the next civil disorder. Hit the Killswitch on the internet, mates!

Don't forget religion (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37174028)

Obviously they will be questioning their respective gods as to why the human race was created to allow this to happen.

Re:Other representatives (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37174288)

Is that dirty cop who murdered Mark Duggan and started it all in custody yet? Not enough people seem demand to address the root cause, only the effects.

ANARCHY IN THE UK !! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37172836)

Go queeen, Go !!

Double Standard (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37172864)

When it happens in Egypt and Libya, its an amazing tool for freedom of speech and the spread of democracy.

When it happens in your own back yard, its a problem.

Re:Double Standard (3, Insightful)

MakinBacon (1476701) | more than 2 years ago | (#37172888)

There's a fine line between staging a revolution and looting an electronics store, my friend.

Re:Double Standard (4, Insightful)

no-body (127863) | more than 2 years ago | (#37173048)

Any social problems in that area - like high unemployment, low standard of living, educational/career dead-end. other types of violence/repression, possibly from government agencies?

And - if so, what are the solutions of the local governments?

One person protesting there was interviewed and stated that news media would not care unless fuss would be created.
 
A fine line.... right.

Re:Double Standard (2)

digitig (1056110) | more than 2 years ago | (#37173438)

Any social problems in that area - like high unemployment, low standard of living, educational/career dead-end. other types of violence/repression, possibly from government agencies?

In some of the areas where there were riots and looting. Not in others. And the rioters seem to come from across the social spectrum (the teenage daughter of a millionaire has been arrested, although she has pleaded not guilty). The rioters, and their reasons for rioting, were so diverse that every pundit can find cases to support their political or social agenda, and the opponents of every pundit can find cases that disprove it. If anybody (eg, David Cameron) says that the causes were simple then they are cherry-picking cases to fit their agenda.

Re:Double Standard (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37173456)

The people are from the UK (my original home). 'social' problems you describe appear to be economic problems.

These folks were stealing Hi-Def TV's and IPads, not food or medical supplies.

I've lived in areas of south east Asia where a week's worth of income support from the UK is, in real terms, more than two months of wages for someone lucky enough to have a job (90%+ unemployment). I'm sure that there are other, far worse off places than that!

The punishment should be to send them to work on community projects in the developing world. Supplying fresh drinking water, building schools. Not only would they realize the insignificance of their hardships, they'd have character building experiences, working in teams making amazing differences to peoples lives with all the personal benefits that go with it.

Still, back on topic, they should have the right to organize peaceful protest, via any means they like. However, inciting riot and looting is a different matter.

Re:Double Standard (2)

MightyYar (622222) | more than 2 years ago | (#37174022)

One person protesting there was interviewed and stated that news media would not care unless fuss would be created.

Right, because they tried peacefully protesting first, and that didn't work.</sarcasm>

Re:Double Standard (1)

Sheik Yerbouti (96423) | more than 2 years ago | (#37174572)

One person said they were "gettin their taxes back" as they ran off with a flat screen TV. The reporter asked what does that even mean? They had no response. Let's not forget these lovelies http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14458424

Puhlease, who are you trying to bullshit?

Re:Double Standard (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37173074)

There is a fine line. Also, I do believe plenty of looting occurred in these other countries as well.

Re:Double Standard (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37173172)

The UK riots were ONLY looting. Do you think more than about 10 people cared about the police shooting some armed dealer? really?

Re:Double Standard (2)

digitig (1056110) | more than 2 years ago | (#37173488)

The UK riots were ONLY looting. Do you think more than about 10 people cared about the police shooting some armed dealer? really?

No they weren't. In some places if was just trashing stuff, with no looting. In others, one gang would come along and smash all of the windows, and a while later others would come along and loot. In some places and in some groups there was clear protest going on, in others the riots seem to have been just for the hell of it. Even those who were not bothered by the police killing of a suspected criminal were bothered that they misled the public about what had happened (forensics showed that the shot the police said he fired at them actually came from a police gun), and a lot more are bothered by increasingly heavy-handed policing. But yes, plenty were bothered by the fact that others were getting free stuff and they weren't, and set out to change that.

Re:Double Standard (0)

khallow (566160) | more than 2 years ago | (#37173864)

Even those who were not bothered by the police killing of a suspected criminal were bothered that they misled the public about what had happened (forensics showed that the shot the police said he fired at them actually came from a police gun)

So where's the evidence that the police misled anyone? Instead we see that the police came through and admitted a fact which runs counter to their interests. The thing that is missed here is that witnesses, even trained ones like police, can make big mistakes of perception, especially in a sudden violent encounter like this one.

I wonder instead why the presumption is that the police lied even though in this case they came through with the truth even when it cast them in a poor light.

Re:Double Standard (2)

Riceballsan (816702) | more than 2 years ago | (#37173102)

aye, while I agree there is little defense for what the rioters do, there is something important about them having the technology to have either option. You can't ban talking to each-other, or even saying specific things (even if it is down with big brother). The right to say things the government dosn't want you to say should be fought for, regardless of the consequences, and banning twitter etc... just gives the rioters/looters something to justify their actions with.

Re:Double Standard (4, Insightful)

AngryDeuce (2205124) | more than 2 years ago | (#37173228)

With the speed with the government can clamp down on the citizenry with it's resources, it's only fair that the population have access to the same level of coordination. I think we would all agree that all societies have the right of self-determination, and if self-determination takes the form of open rebellion and revolution, that's the price we pay for democracy.

These days, freedom to communicate via the internet and text messaging is almost as important as the right to assemble, and definitely as vital. The powers that be are using their authority in order to force it's agenda on the citizenry. Whether they agree or not, if the citizenry decides to rise up against them and defy their authority, is immaterial. Government exists at the will of the people, not the other way around.

Re:Double Standard (1)

bronney (638318) | more than 2 years ago | (#37174204)

Would you keep it down bro? If "they" block slashdot I wouldn't know what to do in my basement :(

Re:Double Standard (1)

gmhowell (26755) | more than 2 years ago | (#37174264)

Would you keep it down bro? If "they" block slashdot I wouldn't know what to do in my basement :(

Judging by the state of your palms, you find plenty to do in the basement.

Re:Double Standard (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37173110)

No, thats not a fine line. thats a wide tipped permanent marker pen line.

Re:Double Standard (1)

RobertLTux (260313) | more than 2 years ago | (#37173542)

actually i would say that it is a Rail Marker line between protesting against the government and being a foul thieving GIT

Re:Double Standard (1)

Hatta (162192) | more than 2 years ago | (#37173164)

Problem is, you can't enable governments to stop one without enabling them to stop the other.

Re:Double Standard (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37173240)

Yes, the key difference is whether NATO supports it by shooting at the police and dropping weaponry on the looters or not.

Twitter enables (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37173284)

people to coordinate. The ability to coordinate helps both revolutions and store-robbing riots. Same as weapons can be used in revolutions, self-defence, and armed robberies. That is why the US Bill of Rights Second Amendment is right near the First Amendment: they enshrine very similar natural rights that can both be very severely misused, and yet should not be infringed as a matter of principle.

Now, the UK chose to erode both of these rights for its citizens, in the name of public good, peace or whatever. Enjoy the fine line, then.

 

Re:Double Standard (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37173324)

There's a fine line between staging a revolution and looting an electronics store, my friend.

Hm, let's see... both fit the category of "doing things that can hurt some entity bigger than me", so as far as Teh Intarnetz0rz are concerned, both actions are identical. Plus the added bonus of a herd mentality that provides an illusion of invulnerability and freedom from responsibility, the kids love that these days. Doesn't matter that one is against a tyrannical despot and his cronies and the other is against small shops trying to stay in business, rioting and looting are perfectly justified and Right(tm).

Re:Double Standard (3, Insightful)

mywhitewolf (1923488) | more than 2 years ago | (#37174374)

I'm disappointing you aren't willing to put your name against that comment Mr AC. Because IMO you're at least partially right. The kids can try and play the society game that we have laid out to them, or they can make their own rules and fight to have them apply instead. we like our rules so we apply them with force and fight back, but that doesn't make our society rules "right" any more then they are "wrong". there are winners and losers in any social contract, when the losers are sick of losing they stop playing by the rules, and the winners get angry because "but, we said that wasn't ok to do!". but pretending there is some "rules" to life that "everyone should follow" and those that don't are "evil scum" is ignorant to the complexity of even a basic animal let alone one as complicated as the exceptionally resourceful, extremely opportunistic naked ape.

if you've never had to rely on government handouts to eat, you're not in a position to condemn the actions of the less fortunate, its completely disheartening to have your survival reliant on a faceless entity who is willing and able to throw you to the dogs at a moments notice.

the riots may have occurred because people are selfish, but you can't stop people from being selfish, IMO social policy is what is wrong and what caused this issue. people are just people doing what they do to give them selves an advantage at life.

you're expected to pay into this society to help make things "better for everyone", and yet when you need help, then what? Imo this won't be the last high profile riot in western cultural hubs until the government gets a lot more social in their spending to offset the hardships that the financial crisis induces on the population.

Re:Double Standard (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37173656)

Do you honestly think looting did not go on during those revolutions? Do you honestly think the majority of those riots where due to people just wanting free shit? Way to buy into someone's straw man argument.

We had this in the states, too. When Katrina hit New Orleans, it wasn't that all those poor black people where starving and dehydrating to death, no. They just wanted to steal TVs and sneakers. You see, once you find a few people that are superficially similar that are, or are doing something you don't like, you can justify using them as scapegoats to demonize the entire group and avoid having to actually come to terms with your conscience. Because, you know, actually considering that some of those people might have something of a point and might actually be somewhat justified is too mentally disruptive to consider.

The government and people that feel like they have to support it do not like admitting when there is a bloody fuck-up that costs lives, much less actually do something constructive about it. And, it is so much easier to let people suffer and die when you don't consider them to be people. Oh, noes, they want to live and be free! Those arseholes! How dare they! Why can't they just take it like the rest of us!?! Do those pampered sons-of-bitches think they are too good for it or something!?! The nerve!

(...)

The overwhelming majority of the population, yes, including the ones you don't like, is not willing to risk their lives for a TV you wanker.

Re:Double Standard (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37173838)

Looting makes those people happy, which keeps a possible revolution in check. At least for a little while.

Re:Double Standard (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37174136)

There's a fine line between staging a revolution and looting an electronics store, my friend.

Should I stay thirsty?

Re:Double Standard (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37174178)

Sure there is, as long as NATO is doing the looting, err, obliterating by bombing. I am referring to the hooray, yay victory for Libiyans by a lots of Brits in the Guardian comments.

You are saying it is OK to bomb a country (I am not a fan of Qaddafi) and the collateral damages are not equivalent, if not more than, looting a few stores. Very wise, you are.

Re:Double Standard (2)

timeOday (582209) | more than 2 years ago | (#37174760)

There's a fine line between staging a revolution and looting an electronics store, my friend.

But not that much. Most political political discontent (beyond a few radicals like Noam Chomsky) is really just about pain in the pocketbook. (Perhaps you've hard of the Boston Tea Party, or have even noticed that "it's the economy, stupid" in US presidential politics lately.) When people's quality of life goes down, they get angry. When enough people can no longer afford food, it's game over. That's what happened in the Middle East. In the US the system failed more gracefully, and morphed into modern Big Government (the New Deal).

Don't get me wrong, the poor in Britain are relatively well off. But not as well as they used to be, and, more importantly, their prospects of a life beyond being kept like a house pet are shrinking fast. None of which justifies what they did. Let's just not confuse righteous disapproval with actual solutions.

Re:Double Standard (1)

cheekyjohnson (1873388) | more than 2 years ago | (#37174430)

Shut up. I disagree with the looting and protests in the UK. Therefore, no one participating wanted to change anything. And "no one" means "not many people" (which, of course, makes complete sense).

Allowing Freedom of Speech? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37172874)

Yeah, a terrible role to play.

It'd be nice... (0)

AngryDeuce (2205124) | more than 2 years ago | (#37172886)

It'd be nice if they just told the government to go fuck itself if they try to interrupt service, but that probably won't happen. Then again, if they do, the government will just use it as an excuse to just kill the internet for "security reasons" next time so we're pretty much fucked either way, it seems.

I agree, entirely.. (1)

intellitech (1912116) | more than 2 years ago | (#37172984)

When I first read the summary, I was surprised they even dignified the UK government with a response, much less an actual representative.

But then, I thought to myself, if they didn't, the government would have likely used that alone as an excuse. It really does seem the UK is fucked, either way.

Personally, though, I blame my government for the UK's attitude here. The United States government has pretty much shown the world that a powerful governmental body can get away with anything to a certain degree, unless the people do something about it. Hell, I doubt anything but a freaking revolution, either civil or congressional, could change government views of the effect of internet communication platforms on keeping the peace.

Re:I agree, entirely.. (1)

siddesu (698447) | more than 2 years ago | (#37173298)

a freaking [congressional] revolution ... could change government views

I am not sure why you think the government would be opposing itself. What would be the motivation of Congress to revolt? Most of the views of the government on the effects of internet communication platforms are formed within the Congress (and the legislative branch elsewhere). Sometimes the executive government nudges the legislative, sometimes it is the other way around, but overall the two branches are pretty much sharing the same views.

Re:I agree, entirely.. (3, Funny)

jd2112 (1535857) | more than 2 years ago | (#37173378)

I am not sure why you think the government would be opposing itself. What would be the motivation of Congress to revolt?

Congress is already revolting.

Re:I agree, entirely.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37174220)

You left out the Senate, bro!

Re:It'd be nice... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37172994)

Then again, if they do, the government will just use it as an excuse to just kill the internet for "security reasons" next time so we're pretty much fucked either way, it seems.

not necessarily, in a proper functioning democracy, the electorate would kick the gov's ass if they tried blocking twitter cos' they allowed the riots, etc.

Re:It'd be nice... (1)

AngryDeuce (2205124) | more than 2 years ago | (#37173264)

not necessarily, in a proper functioning democracy, the electorate would kick the gov's ass if they tried blocking twitter cos' they allowed the riots, etc.

Thus why they are working on making it impossible for the citizenry to communicate quickly enough to outmaneuver the government who will most definitely still have their radios while the electorate is stuck with useless cell phones and internet connections with no idea which direction the troops are rolling in from.

Re:It'd be nice... (1)

digitig (1056110) | more than 2 years ago | (#37173522)

not necessarily, in a proper functioning democracy, the electorate would kick the gov's ass if they tried blocking twitter cos' they allowed the riots, etc.

No, in a properly functioning democracy the electorate would decide whether they prefer bread and circuses to an uninterrupted Twitter feed and might well choose the former.

dunno about uk.. (2)

gale the simple (1931540) | more than 2 years ago | (#37172906)

but in the us all the gvmt institution has to do is to issue subpoena and pretty much all the information is up for grabs.. be it financial institutions, your m$ sexbox profile.. not to mention facebook which is basically founded on selling information of its users. I have to assume that UK wants somewhat quicker access to twitter, fb and RIM... less paperwork, more trees saved. because ya know.. they do care about the environment.

In essence, gvmt backdoor coming to all communication services. How long till that is broken and abused by evil hackers which will require even more draconian surveillance?

Hand over the logs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37172970)

This is not a freedom of speech issue.
Planning crimes on facebook, twitter and RIM (public + persistent + 3rd party corporate), is infinity stupid, and the chav hordes have made it extremely easy to catch.

Oh and next time, use IRC over SSL.

Facebook, twitter, RIM, etc did nothing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37173046)

Had nothing to do with it. Nor the "flash mob" 7-11 robbery. This is pure hype and scapegoating at its best.

The government now locks down social media, for your safety.

They should meet with a car manufacturer... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37173056)

...every time somebody runs in to the front of a shopping mall. Why blame the user when you can blame the tool?

BT? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37173068)

Is British Telecom invited?

Sigh (1)

Timmmm (636430) | more than 2 years ago | (#37173072)

I think this is probably the most stupid thing the Tories have done so far.

Re:Sigh (1)

IonOtter (629215) | more than 2 years ago | (#37173122)

Key phrase being "so far".

Don't worry, there's more than enough time for them to REALLY cock things up.

Re:Sigh (1)

0123456 (636235) | more than 2 years ago | (#37173214)

I think this is probably the most stupid thing the Tories have done so far.

It doesn't even come close to being visibile on the list of stupid things the current government have done so far.

Re:Sigh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37174654)

Although it's nowhere close to the stupid things that the last government did. At least not yet.

Yeah, I'm sure UK is not the only one (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37173100)

I'm sure the governments of China, Egypt, Syria, and (har) Libya will also be meeting them, if they haven't already long ago.

Apparently the UK government hasn't been keeping up on the news [cnn.com].

yes momma government. (1)

StandardAI (1988770) | more than 2 years ago | (#37173128)

Is this really how all countries end up? Take away the ability for people to defend their freedoms, play on their fears, take away their voice. Then rape them through taxation, banking and consumption.

Re:yes momma government. (1)

turtledawn (149719) | more than 2 years ago | (#37173338)

typically, yes. Most govs seem to last about 250 years or so at best. Of course, past experience is not necessarily indicative of future performance, blah blah.

It wasn't twitter, morons, it was Blackberry msgr (2)

WillAffleckUW (858324) | more than 2 years ago | (#37173146)

How dumb can they get.

Twitter only was used by peeps like me in other countries to rebroadcast the pics and vids they tried to pretend weren't happening.

It was Blackberry messenger that was being used to coordinate things.

Total insanity.

Btw, I used to do counter-terrorism ops, and right now high-end automobiles are being burnt in record numbers in Germany.

You can't put the genie back in the bottle - either create jobs for youth and stop subsidizing the rich, or watch your country burn.

Re:It wasn't twitter, morons, it was Blackberry ms (1)

lgw (121541) | more than 2 years ago | (#37173340)

I used to do counter-terrorism ops, and right now high-end automobiles are being burnt in record numbers in Germany.

That's a bizarre non-sequitur in the middle of a sentence!

either create jobs for youth and stop subsidizing the rich, or watch your country burn.

England has socialism up to its eyebrows. They've created a nearly-unemployable class of young people by removing any need to work (for the basics). The jobs are there, yet most low-skilled jobs are filled by immigrants (I was in London recently, and it seemed everyone in a service role had a French accent; it was very strange). Jobs programs have been tried, and people would simply not show up, or be so lacking in basic literacy, numeracy, or work ethic that there was no useful way to employ them.

I believe firmly that whoever can find a way to usefully employ all the chavs, neds, and yobs of the world will have invented the post-capitalist economy. MMOs and Farmville have shown that people will do menial, repetitive work for long hours and little compensation - and train themselves on the job to do it! There must be a way to build an economic system around that.

Re:It wasn't twitter, morons, it was Blackberry ms (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37173486)

"England has socialism up to its eyebrows. They've created a nearly-unemployable class of young people by removing any need to work (for the basics)."

You, sir, are an idiot.

Re:It wasn't twitter, morons, it was Blackberry ms (1)

couchslug (175151) | more than 2 years ago | (#37173572)

"You, sir, are an idiot."

You, sir, presented nothing to counter his argument.

Re:It wasn't twitter, morons, it was Blackberry ms (1)

WillAffleckUW (858324) | more than 2 years ago | (#37173534)

I play FrontierVille, not Farmville. Farmville is for neocons.

Besides, I'm working on the next gen Kthulhu Kitchen (tm), the eldritch cooking game, and that runs on an iPad in standalone with networked "gifting".

Re:It wasn't twitter, morons, it was Blackberry ms (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37174434)

Asian gold farming services: do menial task for lazy Westerns in exchange for real gold. Let the very uneven cost-of-living profits keep them fed for weeks without the need for real jobs.
Anyway, here's 56c/hour rates and other info: http://www.1up.com/features/wage-slaves-mmo-goldfarming
Even Korean presidents are using it: http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2011/08/08/kim-jong-ils-latest-cash-source-is-mmo-gold-farming/

First they came for the... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37173148)

Whose idea was it to make buildings out of bricks? Didn't they stop to think that their buildings could be dismantled and converted into missiles? And what is the idea of putting flammable liquids in automobiles? Did no one consider that someone might try to set a car on fire?

Perfidious Albion strikes again (1)

noshellswill (598066) | more than 2 years ago | (#37173302)

Might as well have Henry-8th meet with Gutenberg - Perfidious Albion writ their own prayerbook they did .... or Stalin meet with Marconi. If your cultures imports or raises Neolithic savages for **vote-herding** , machine-gun fodder or mud-hut GREEN purposes then you will get everything you ask for.

Protection racket! (1)

conner_bw (120497) | more than 2 years ago | (#37173476)

Protection racket! I knew Twitter had to have an ace in the hole monetization scheme in there somewhere...

If only. (2)

v(*_*)vvvv (233078) | more than 2 years ago | (#37173832)

The UK government were friends with their citizens and followed them on twitter, they'd have a clue what all the commotion was about...

pumaccat (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37174466)

http://www.puma-ferrari-cat.com est une bonne site en google.fr

Just a spoon full of sugar... (1)

JustinFreid (1723716) | more than 2 years ago | (#37174510)

I'm imagining the meeting of Twitter and the UK Government will look a lot like the animated scenes from Mary Poppins.

May not be so bad (2)

Sarten-X (1102295) | more than 2 years ago | (#37174588)

I know it's terribly unpopular to be the voice of reason in a "GOVERNMENT IS BAD" discussion, but this meeting may not be a bad thing. Perhaps the government just wants insight into how they can get advance notice of violent trends. Perhaps Twitter can provide easy access to its data, to find people bragging about the loot they took. Perhaps whatever socioeconomic factors (if any) that led to the riots could be derived from other posts by the rioters, and the government could better understand the problems it faces.

But hey... never mind me. Let's all continue jumping to conclusions anyway. Up next, Linux Torvalds looks at Windows 8. Could this mean Microsoft secretly controls Linux development?

Load More Comments
Slashdot Account

Need an Account?

Forgot your password?

Don't worry, we never post anything without your permission.

Submission Text Formatting Tips

We support a small subset of HTML, namely these tags:

  • b
  • i
  • p
  • br
  • a
  • ol
  • ul
  • li
  • dl
  • dt
  • dd
  • em
  • strong
  • tt
  • blockquote
  • div
  • quote
  • ecode

"ecode" can be used for code snippets, for example:

<ecode>    while(1) { do_something(); } </ecode>
Sign up for Slashdot Newsletters
Create a Slashdot Account

Loading...