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Hurricane Irene Prompts Unprecedented Evacuation of NYC

timothy posted about 3 years ago | from the this-sounds-exciting dept.

Earth 395

oxide7 links this bit of sobering news, as reported by the International Business Times: "For the first time, New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg has ordered a mandatory evacuation of 300,000 residents of the cities coastal areas as Hurricane Irene barrels up the East Coast. Buses and subways prepared to shut on Saturday as Hurricane Irene approaches as well. All New Jersey rail service will be suspended from noon Saturday, while the Metropolitan Transportation Authority (MTA) will institute a shutdown of trains and buses starting at the same time. The suspension will include subways, buses, the Long Island Rail Road, Metro-North Railroad and Access-A-Ride. The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey will suspend PATH train service at noon as well. 'This is a mandatory evacuation,' Bloomberg said. 'By five o'clock tomorrow you have to be out. Waiting for the last minute is not a smart thing to do. This is life threatening.'" Good luck to everyone in the storm's path: Irene is big. (Hat tip to Matt Lord.) What, if anything, are you doing to prepare? Having spent more than an hour in worse-than-usual D.C. traffic after Tuesday's earthquake, I shudder to think of leaving New York in a rush. Update: 08/27 06:43 GMT by T : An anonymous reader points out the official evacuation map (PDF), on the swamped NYC server, and suggests "Lets mirror this file anywhere we can ... put it on all social media. Make these systems do what they were supposed to — help us. I'm in Long Island City ~100 yards from the East River in the orange (highest risk) area."

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DC Traffic sucks... (0, Offtopic)

mooingyak (720677) | about 3 years ago | (#37225032)

I've lived in or near NYC my entire life, and seen all kinds of NYC and LI traffic. Having said that, nothing I've been stuck in here has ever been worse than the times I've driven on I-95 between DC and Richmond during daylight hours.

Re:DC Traffic sucks... (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37225056)

Earthquakes, hurricanes. It is abundantly clear god has chosen sides in the New York gay marriage debate.

Re:DC Traffic sucks... (4, Funny)

mooingyak (720677) | about 3 years ago | (#37225062)

Yeah he gets a little carried away with the whole happy dance thing.

EMERGENCY QUESTION! (0)

kdawson (3715) (1344097) | about 3 years ago | (#37225182)

ok this is what happening, my parents are out with family friends, and theyll be back any minute so i need your help see, i volunteer on my sister's softball team (im 22 the girls are 15) and whatever, i met this girl, her name is Alison, and were going out for a while. We have a lot in common, and sometimes i help her with homework. i helped her with her english essay and she still got a D... this is because her teacher is a prick... anywayz so she came over like an hour ago, and i really want to lose my virginity, so i ask her to have sex "no no i cant, its not right" she said, but i told her "dont worry, i know what im doing, ill be done in like 10 seconds, plus ill give you 2 n64 games if you say yes." So then I gave her Diddy Kong Racing and Ken Griffy Jr. Baseball and we went up to my room. she is a bit confused and scared. then i think to myself- yo i need lube, right? cuz i heard other people saying you need to lube up her clit otherwise it wont fit in properly. ok so i have no lube, but i really want to lose my virginity, so i grab some butter from the fridge, but its cold and it wont melt, so i microwaved it for 8 minutes and i put it in a glass and poured it on her cooter, and now shes saying i burned it. i dont know what to do, my parents are going to be back any minute and shes crying in the bathroom plz help you guys are really smart please help me. any idea how to shut her up? should i give her another n64 game?

Re:EMERGENCY QUESTION! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37225214)

Keith, just call the cops already. It will be better for you, Allison, and Slashdot.

Re:DC Traffic sucks... (5, Informative)

niktemadur (793971) | about 3 years ago | (#37225386)

"The Days of Prayer for Rain in the State of Texas refers to a designated three-day period from Friday, April 22, 2011, to Sunday, April 24, 2011, during which Texas governor Rick Perry asked that Texans pray for "the healing of our land [Texas]" and for an end to the drought."

You know, Texas. Pious, tea bagging Red State. No gays allowed.

"The drought became worse after the Days of Prayer. While only 15-17% of the state was undergoing exceptional drought during the Days of Prayer, the percentage grew to 50% a month later, and by late June, more than 70% of the state was experiencing exceptional drought conditions, a level at which it has stayed up to August 18, 2011."

How you like them apples?

Re:DC Traffic sucks... (3, Insightful)

Pseudonym Authority (1591027) | about 3 years ago | (#37225452)

I blame those Keep Austin Weird "people".

Re:DC Traffic sucks... (0)

Clsid (564627) | about 3 years ago | (#37225154)

It's all the people going to Ikea/Potomac Mills that are to blame :P

Re:DC Traffic sucks... (0)

Dachannien (617929) | about 3 years ago | (#37225368)

nothing I've been stuck in here has ever been worse than the times I've driven on I-95 between DC and Richmond during daylight hours.

And "daylight hours" includes the weekends.

But they don't have cars. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37225034)

How can they get far enough to leave? Where will they stay? Why did the mayor wait so long?

And will looters be running around with the theft equivalent of a Japanese fishing trawler? I mean, you can't take all your stuff with you. You could strip whole buildings.

Re:But they don't have cars. (2)

pyro_dude (15885) | about 3 years ago | (#37225070)

NYC.gov [nyc.gov] specifies those areas of the city that are near enough to water to be in danger of serious floods.

Mayor Bloomberg has stated in press conferences those in affected areas should move to higher ground; ie, non-affected areas, staying with friends and/or relatives in the boroughs or outside.

There likely won't be lawlessness, the waters will recede and there will just be a lot of property damage. They are deploying a lot of police units to keep order in the city and crews are coming from out of state and those local to the area being lined up in teams to repair and clear damage and restore power to the affected areas.

I'm still scared-- stockpiling on water and going to bunker down in my basement, as the projected path of the 'cane brings the eye with a near-direct hit over my residence. Just gotta tough it out and hope they can restore power in a reasonable period of time and damage to life and proprety is minimal.

But don't pray for me.

Re:But they don't have cars. (2)

Inner_Child (946194) | about 3 years ago | (#37225266)

I'm still scared-- stockpiling on water and going to bunker down in my basement, as the projected path of the 'cane brings the eye with a near-direct hit over my residence. Just gotta tough it out and hope they can restore power in a reasonable period of time and damage to life and proprety is minimal.

I know what you mean; I'm in the same boat. I plan to stay safe in the basement until the worst of this storm is over. Of course it's not likely to help much, since I'm in Iowa. Still, better safe than sorry, right?

Seriously though, I don't mean to make light of your predicament, and here's hoping the thing dissipates at least some before pounding the city.

Reminder (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37225044)

Reminder: Please save the hurricane jokes until people are mostly safe and/or completely fucked.

Re:Reminder (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37225346)

Meh. Irene's already been downgraded to a cat 2.

Yesterday, forecasts said it would be a cat 3 right now, and still be a cat 3 tomorrow. Current forecasts show it a cat 2 now, a cat 1 tomorrow, and a Tropical Storm when it hits Long Island.

Tempest in a teapot, if you ask me.

Some aren't leaving (1)

Vinegar Joe (998110) | about 3 years ago | (#37225046)

My brother is running a mainframe in northern New Jersey. He's staying.

Re:Some aren't leaving (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37225094)

I tried to buy a generator today...they were all sold out everywhere. I did manage to buy a chain saw.

I've already volunteered to help with communications once the phones go down. (I'm a ham radio operator, and am charging up radios right now.) Any hams who are available, I heartily suggest you contact your local Emergency Coordinator with days/times available. Also let him know if your emergency comms experience. If you don't know who your EC is, go to the ARRL website. http://www.arrl.org/news/arrl-hq-emergency-response-team-gears-up-for-hurricane-irene

Re:Some aren't leaving (3, Interesting)

anagama (611277) | about 3 years ago | (#37225262)

I remember when I was kid, the power would go out for days at a time in the winter occasionally. Granted, rural area in the Pacific NW (70s), and we just cooked on our woodstove (*), and I realize not everyone can have that sort of setup, but I sort of cringe at all the people going out and buying generators and such as if they'd die should the TV or computer not function. Honestly, power outages always seemed kind of fun, and I miss them. The grid seems much less likely to have outages, and those we have rarely last more than 10 minutes, at least here in town rather than out in the county.

(*) While I realize that one can consider a woodstove to be an energy generator akin to an electricity generator, the big difference is that people pile up enough wood for winter, but (hopefully) people don't store enough gas for winter. So even with a generator, you're going to be running out for gas in any long term outage.

Re:Some aren't leaving (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37225396)

I remember when I was a kid, dad bought a freaking chainsaw a little sooner than hours before the storm, they have been strongly predicting this for a week or more, and you wait for today to try and buy a generator?

good luck buddy

Re:Some aren't leaving (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37225128)

What the fuck is he going to do when the rains come in and his precious System/370 goes floating right out the fucking door and down the Hudson?

Re:Some aren't leaving (3, Informative)

Vinegar Joe (998110) | about 3 years ago | (#37225196)

Counting the 5 grand bonus he's getting for staying?

Re:Some aren't leaving (1)

DigiShaman (671371) | about 3 years ago | (#37225302)

Ya, I'd stay too for that payout. Hazard pay can be nice.

firearms (1, Insightful)

niko9 (315647) | about 3 years ago | (#37225048)

One thing (of many) I am doing that most public officials, the media and emergency management officials always fail to talk about: cleaning and inspecting my firearms.

Re:firearms (5, Funny)

Kenja (541830) | about 3 years ago | (#37225074)

So... you're going to shoot the hurricane?

Re:firearms (5, Funny)

The Dawn Of Time (2115350) | about 3 years ago | (#37225088)

Hopefully he aims for the eye. That's the weak spot.

Re:firearms (3, Funny)

GaryOlson (737642) | about 3 years ago | (#37225264)

Just like they do in Texas -- sit on the porch and shoot anything that moves.

Re:firearms (0, Troll)

Bing Tsher E (943915) | about 3 years ago | (#37225284)

They don't actually do that in Texas.

Now, panicked limousine liberals might have their hired armed security dudes do that for them, though.

Re:firearms (1)

qzjul (944600) | about 3 years ago | (#37225314)

Probably to shoot down any trees that try flying at his house...

Re:firearms (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37225408)

So... you're going to shoot the hurricane?

I'm going to assume you're being facetious but in case you're not or (inevitably) someone else doesn't get it: It's for looters.

Remember Katrina/New Orleans?

Re:firearms (4, Insightful)

arkane1234 (457605) | about 3 years ago | (#37225180)

ummm you don't clean and inspect them on a regular basis?
I'm being serious...

Re:firearms (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37225226)

Is that a metaphor for "masturbating"?

Re:firearms (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37225306)

Right, because what we need after a disaster is a peckerwood who wants to shoot anyone that looks at him funny.
 
Lord, the Second Amendment was WRITTEN for jerks like you. You should be forced to choose 'twixt them shootin' irons, and being enrolled in "a well-regulated militia".

Re:firearms (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37225398)

That would do you a lot of good in NYC and DC. Have fun dropping the soap. And get off my rooftop.

lol (1)

serkit (2358056) | about 3 years ago | (#37225050)

lol

Send some to TX! (1)

thebra (707939) | about 3 years ago | (#37225060)

Man I could go for some hurricane rain here in DFW. But seriously stay safe, don't end up a darwin award. Don't be stupid. [gizmodo.com]

Mandatory? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37225076)

So, what happens if someone stays behind? And what about those who are in jail?

(Thankfully I don't live on the East coast.)

Re:Mandatory? (1)

Vinegar Joe (998110) | about 3 years ago | (#37225224)

And what about those who are in jail?

It's one way of using Climate Change to save the taxpayers' hard earned money.

Was a mandatory evacuation of Slashdot ordered? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37225078)

cause this place is dead....

I'm in NYC. My plan is to tie some things down on my roof and order some more alcohol.

A continent away, but on edge (1)

StefanJ (88986) | about 3 years ago | (#37225080)

It's sunny and beautiful in Oregon, but I'm checking the news regularly.

My sister lives on Long Island full time, my brother weekdays; they live on either side of Irene's current projected path through Nassau County. It's odd and disquieting to see the line going through familiar places like Hempstead and Muttontown.

Two cousins live in NYC, one far enough south in Manhattan to be in the "B" Zone.

Batten down the hatches, folks. Don't do anything stupid.

And remember: Creamed Eels, Wadded Beef and Corn Nog don't keep without refrigeration!

Why of why (1, Funny)

Vinegar Joe (998110) | about 3 years ago | (#37225082)

Isn't Bush sending troops to rescue the poor black people of New Orleans from certain death? He's a redneck Texas cowboy racist is why!

Wait! It's 2011? And this is New York and Bush is gone?

Never mind........past the hummus and pita chips.

It's a CAT-2 storm, for god's sake... (5, Informative)

CrimsonAvenger (580665) | about 3 years ago | (#37225086)

Title says it all. Cat-2.

It has a slim chance of being a hurricane still when it gets to New York.

It has a slightly better chance of 50 knot wind-speeds by then.

And it has a decent chance of being a weak tropical storm.

In other words, not even worth evacuating for....

For reference, I live in the Big Easy - I've sat out Cat-2 storms before, more than once.

But from the looks of it, this storm is being blown all out of proportion....

Re:It's a CAT-2 storm, for god's sake... (1)

Vinegar Joe (998110) | about 3 years ago | (#37225112)

And you've got Abita Beer to ease your fears......:^)

Re:It's a CAT-2 storm, for god's sake... (1)

CrimsonAvenger (580665) | about 3 years ago | (#37225130)

And you've got Abita Beer to ease your fears......:^)

Matter of fact, just picked up a sixpack of Turbodog yesterday....

Re:It's a CAT-2 storm, for god's sake... (1)

arkane1234 (457605) | about 3 years ago | (#37225144)

You're thinking about previous hurricanes, and you would be right about those. This one is sustaining it's energy, and probably keeping it alive with water temps.
It's size is bigger than most as well.

You live in an area that has seen more than one hurricane head-on. New York city on the other hand built their very infrastructure on the basis which if the wind blows they have to fix something. I'm of course being figurative, but they're right up against the water, have stuff underground that is electric, and pack more people per square inch than nearly any place in America. It's just begging for a beating... and for the last 250+ years things have been moderately quiet...

Re:It's a CAT-2 storm, for god's sake... (1)

siride (974284) | about 3 years ago | (#37225160)

New York has nor'easters, which can be gusty and have storm surge and flooding. Granted, they are often worse further north than NYC, but they aren't rare in NYC either.

Re:It's a CAT-2 storm, for god's sake... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37225146)

Pretty standard overhyped response for anything to do with New York City.

Re:It's a CAT-2 storm, for god's sake... (4, Informative)

siride (974284) | about 3 years ago | (#37225152)

Flood is a big concern still, as is storm surge. Due to interaction with a trough in SE Canada, a large area of heavy rain will spread out ahead of the storm and keep raining over areas for potentially as long as 24 hours. Many of these areas have already had significant rains during the summer, leading to saturated ground before the storm even gets there. Some gusty winds can thus easily knock down trees and powerlines (for the areas where that's a concern). Flooding is definitely going to be a problem.

Media hype is...well, very disappointing. They focus on the wrong problems in the wrong area and in their zeal for ratings, they completely distort reality.

Re:It's a CAT-2 storm, for god's sake... (2)

Alien Being (18488) | about 3 years ago | (#37225296)

OTOH, NYC is about 100 years overdue for an enema.

Re:It's a CAT-2 storm, for god's sake... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37225166)

Category is a poor measure of storm surge, which is the actual danger here.

People love to categorize things. Something about the way our brains work makes us want to fit everything into a neat little box -- this thing is rock, that's R&B, that's dieselpunk.

But the world doesn't work that way, so unless you're an actual technical expert in the field, leave the analysis alone and pay attention to e.g. the NOAA Watch and Warning products, which are meant to inform the layperson about the actual danger presents. Because Category is a measure of a single attribute of a complex system, and doesn't represent the full reality of the situation.

Re:It's a CAT-2 storm, for god's sake... (1)

MightyMartian (840721) | about 3 years ago | (#37225256)

Mod parent up. The asswipe who says "It's only a Category 2" is the guy clinging to his roof the next day waiting for someone to rescue him.

Re:It's a CAT-2 storm, for god's sake... (1)

O('_')O_Bush (1162487) | about 3 years ago | (#37225280)

More sensationalist bullshit. Storm surge is caused by low pressure and primarily wind speed. Hurricane categories are measures of windspeed, and are directly related to storm surge as well.

No matter how "large" this hurricane is, it isn't pushing much air or creating a large storm surge. The biggest worry is that it will rain a lot because it isn't moving terribly fast, but coastal areas are typically good at handling rain, and most all of these areas have been hit by far worse storms than this.

This hurricane is going to be a spit and nothing more. The media ran out of Libya and earthquake to hype, so they're moving on to the next "big" thing, this hurricane.

Its really pathetic. I heard on the radio this morning that this Cat 2 storm is the "storm of a generation" or some bullshit. My generation has seen 3 Cat 5 hurricanes make directly landfall over my house, and more Cat 2's and 3's than I care to remember. Bunch. Of. Bullshit.

Re:It's a CAT-2 storm, for god's sake... (5, Insightful)

artor3 (1344997) | about 3 years ago | (#37225204)

NYC isn't quite as accustomed to hurricanes as NOLA. Imagine how NOLA would handle a noreaster dumping four feet of snow on you, and you'll get a better feel for the severity.

Re:It's a CAT-2 storm, for god's sake... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37225216)

It's not the storm itself that will cause damage, it's the rise in sea level. New Orleans has, when it isn't failing in the worst of conditions, a pretty good levy system. There's a lot of people along the southern coast of Long Island that haven't been around long enough to remember the last time their town or peninsula was under water during a storm, and probably wouldn't do a very good job of dealing with it. And Manhattan residents... Jesus, they're ready to riot if a Starbucks locks its doors.

Re:It's a CAT-2 storm, for god's sake... (1)

cultiv8 (1660093) | about 3 years ago | (#37225320)

You forget how everyone from DC to NYC reacted to the earthquake...

Re:It's a CAT-2 storm, for god's sake... (1, Troll)

DigiShaman (671371) | about 3 years ago | (#37225356)

Oh come on! Let's just say what everyone else knows. No one has, so I'll just say it. It's political, period. Pure and simple. We have DC and NY along with other eastern coast cities that generally vote Democrat. And guess the types of media that is in the tank for them? Wild guess anyone? This is nothing more than a hype so at the end of the day, the politicians come out as heros for putting their own neck on the line and getting their hands dirty.

If we can ride out Ike, i'm sure the rest of you should have less trouble with Irene. Good luck, and be safe.

Re:It's a CAT-2 storm, for god's sake... (1)

CPNABEND (742114) | about 3 years ago | (#37225364)

Yup, the eye is collapsing, and the wind speed is dropping,,,, But it is still 951MB

Re:It's a CAT-2 storm, for god's sake... (1)

jjoelc (1589361) | about 3 years ago | (#37225406)

While I have family on the outer banks in NC, and I wish everyone the best... I can't help but think that poor Irene doesn't have a chance of living up to the media coverage... The sad part isn't that the media has latched onto it and is hyping it to no end. (We're used to that, after all...) But that it really is a prime example of "The Little Boy Who Cried Wolf". Hype it up and it fails to meet expectations, and nobody will believe you next time... When it IS that bad.

Unprecedented? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37225090)

Isn't it Category 2? (Ooo. 100 MPH winds.) And that's when it hits North Carolina. It will be 1 by the time it gets to NYC.

And what unprecedented? You guys already evacuated everything for a weak earthquake that was 350 miles away.

What is this? Overreact to distant disasters week?

Re:Unprecedented? (1)

the eric conspiracy (20178) | about 3 years ago | (#37225142)

> Overreact to distant disasters week?

Only a very small percentage of anything is getting evacuated.

God bless America! (1)

Max_W (812974) | about 3 years ago | (#37225092)

We wish you well! Courage!

PUSSYIES !! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37225100)

A bunch of pussyies !! Ugly to boot !! Snookie anyone ?? Is that Weehawken's answer to ugly or what ??

Keep perspective (4, Informative)

Sierran (155611) | about 3 years ago | (#37225110)

300,000 people and the 'affected areas' are a relatively small percentage of New York City. The vast majority of New Yorkers are doing what we normally do when doom is predicted - snark, ignore, and stock up on liquor and cigarettes.

Seriously, though, there's no way New York City itself could be evacuated without something on the scale of Dunkirk. The thought of 8 million people trying to escape over a mere 4 or 5 Interstate-class roads makes a lot of us laugh at the idea of the 'go bag' that the authorities and preparedness obsessives keep talking about. If anything happened that was big enough to force a major evac on NYC, we'd be going nowhere so fast due to traffic we'd end up using all three changes of clothes just sitting in cars or in train stations or airports. So unless the 'crisis' is fairly personal, I plan on having lots of time to pack whatever's needed - or to make sure I have the requisite amount of booze and books to see me through the forting up!

KEEP CALM
AND
CARRY ON

Re:Keep perspective (1)

dcollins (135727) | about 3 years ago | (#37225288)

And this is why my partner & I got bicycles.

Re:Keep perspective (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37225444)

Depends on the need - if things got bad enough you could throw people on freight cars and cart them off. That said, I imagine that gasoline supplies are probably more of an issue for an evac than the interstates.

First Agfanistan... (0)

gmuslera (3436) | about 3 years ago | (#37225116)

.. then Iraq, the next target will be South Africa. The war on terror will take good care of those damn butterflies.

According to wunderground... (3, Insightful)

SvnLyrBrto (62138) | about 3 years ago | (#37225122)

... it's only supposed to be a category 1 by the time it reaches land, and down to tropical storm strength by the time it reached New York. When I lived in Florida, we didn't even lower the awnings for a cat 1.

After this, and the hullabaloo over that 5.9 earthquake (I live in California now, and we laughed at the big deal they made out of it.), I think the east coast are being a massive bunch of drama queens.

Re:According to wunderground... (4, Insightful)

siride (974284) | about 3 years ago | (#37225168)

Or the media, rather. They love this. Hurricane headed for one of the biggest markets in the country. Even if it ends up being a dud, they can still spend a day going after the meteorologists who correctly predicted it, even when the media did not, and get their ratings fill. It's a win-win for them.

Storm Surge (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | about 3 years ago | (#37225190)

Because the storm is so massive, there is expected to be a storm surge about one category higher than the storm actually arrives at.

One analysis I read rated the chances of topping the manhattan flood wall at 20%. So not huge, but good enough odds that it warrants not killing people if you guess wrong.

Re:According to wunderground... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37225208)

After this, and the hullabaloo over that 5.9 earthquake (I live in California now, and we laughed at the big deal they made out of it.), I think the east coast are being a massive bunch of drama queens.

Buildings on the east coast aren't built to withstand strong earthquakes, so it's a more than a little more serious over here. I'm sure you'd get a good guffaw if someone had died in a building collapse.

Re:According to wunderground... (1)

Clsid (564627) | about 3 years ago | (#37225212)

It's just that nothing happens on the East coast, so people make a big deal out of this events :)

Re:According to wunderground... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37225286)

Is it possible the over the top media coverage, evacuation orders, and city shutdowns is a part of keeping the populace under control? I don't mean keep the idiots off the levees or breaker walls type control, I mean keep people in fear of and reliance on state/fed agencies to tell them what to do. The super-hyped "you're in big danger unless you do what we say" is..... eh... hard to believe at times.

Re:According to wunderground... (5, Insightful)

slimjim8094 (941042) | about 3 years ago | (#37225334)

Good for you. We'll come and dump 4 feet of snow on you overnight, and "laugh at the big deal you make out of it" as you try desperately to dig yourselves out with no/not enough plows, shovels, snowblowers, and tire chains.

Look. Different regions get different types of weather. How'd your last ice storm go? Because ours gave us a day or two of trouble. Same with the blizzard we had this winter - 4 feet of snow in one day, and cleared out the next. But that's because we plan for snow, ice, and harsh winters in general. Oh your car won't start? Should have used a block heater, how stupid of you. But you'll only need it once? Drama queen...

In the Northeast, we don't get hurricanes, tornadoes, or earthquakes. In California, you don't get much snow or ice, or sub-zero temperatures (or tornadoes). So you have building codes that handle earthquakes, and we have plows and snowblowers. We plan for typical events, and don't waste our limited resources on highly unusual events. Neither of us would be very prepared for an F3 blowing through town, but are you going to call yourself a drama queen for being bummed that your house is a half-mile in the air?

I think people do this to feel superior. I don't get it. But New Englanders were doing the same thing when DC shut down over 3 inches of snow, so it's not just you.

Re:According to wunderground... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37225394)

You hit it square on the head. People like SvnLyrBrto are arrogant and want to feed their egos by putting other people down.

Re:According to wunderground... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37225352)

the newscasters are the only people who cared about the earthquake. of course, us normal folk spoke about it over here but otherwise carried on with our lives as usual.

Re:According to wunderground... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37225366)

There is a bit of drama, perhaps too much, and yeah, the media does love to get all breathless over these things. The thing to keep in mind, though, is that 24 or 36 hours ago, it wasn't at all clear that the eyewall was going to disappear and the storm was going to weaken. Wunderground (which I read too) was talking about 15 foot storm surges and the worst storm to impact the New York City/Long Island region since the 1930s. People in positions of power paid attention, for once, and made an effort to get across to all the media-jaded people that no, really, maybe we should be paying some attention. I think that, generally speaking, everybody's handling this reasonably well.

Re:According to wunderground... (3, Insightful)

hrvatska (790627) | about 3 years ago | (#37225384)

It's all relative. One area's once a century calamity is another area's semi-regular event. It all depends on what the local buildings and infrastructure are designed to handle.

Hello from the front lines in Brooklyn (3, Interesting)

vmxeo (173325) | about 3 years ago | (#37225136)

I'm writing this from the foot of the Brooklyn Bridge, right near the edge of the evacuation zone 'C'. A good portion of the people here in the neighborhood of Dumbo near the water have either followed mandatory evacuation or have opted to leave on their own . Nearby low-lying Fulton Ferry and the much better situated Brooklyn Heights are ready to ride the storm out.

I also happen to have the weekend on-call network emergency duty for a group of offices here in the neighborhood (trade into it weeks ago. Oops). We ran through a checklist today, including testing backup generators and going over contingency plans for flooding. In front of me is a cell phone, radio and keys to everything. Meanwhile, the city is doing a massive amount of prep work on its own. Talked to a number of friends and neighbors today and everyone who will be here is hunkered down.

This is my first hurricane. Not sure how this is going to turn out, but everyone here is ready.

Bring it Irene.

Re:Hello from the front lines in Brooklyn (4, Funny)

dcollins (135727) | about 3 years ago | (#37225300)

"Bring it Irene."

Rule #1: Do Not Taunt.

Re:Hello from the front lines in Brooklyn (5, Funny)

mellon (7048) | about 3 years ago | (#37225330)

Also, once you have Irene cornered, no monologueing.

There's your damned nanny state... (-1, Flamebait)

damn_registrars (1103043) | about 3 years ago | (#37225138)

Telling people who have a high probability of being killed by a large storm with a moderately predictable trajectory to get out. How dare the government interfere with their right to die of their own free will.

Re:There's your damned nanny state... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37225250)

Actually, yes, how dare they disallowing them to die?
It's harming natural selection, and thereby harming all of our gene pool with retard garbage. Because it gives the dumb a unfair advantage of surviving despite not being able to sustain their own life.
A baaaad idea.

I think we should pull the warning labels off of everything, and let the problem solve itself.
That would fix overpopulation too.
(Yes, of course this can be abused just as well. So we can't just think it will magically go well and nobody will try to use it for his advantage. As a German, I can tell you a story about such abuse. ;)

Re:There's your damned nanny state... (2)

bky1701 (979071) | about 3 years ago | (#37225448)

Large storm? It will be a tropical storm by the time it gets there, assuming it doesn't turn away. High probability of being killed? By what, exactly?

Forcing people to evacuate for something that doesn't even qualify as alarming in most of the country is indeed a nanny state. But I can see you're so afraid of your own shadow, you don't mind armed men forcing people into the streets. There are counties you can go to where that is the norm, why don't you try them on for size.

Where's Snake Plissken (1)

Vinegar Joe (998110) | about 3 years ago | (#37225140)

When you need him?

Re:Where's Snake Plissken (1)

macshit (157376) | about 3 years ago | (#37225318)

He's escapin' !

Kisses (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37225164)

Hurricanes are just God blowing kisses.

Hi, Philadelphia here (1)

cultiv8 (1660093) | about 3 years ago | (#37225174)

Florida must be making fun of us the same way that Californians were making fun of us earlier this week. I don't care, we got better cheesesteaks than you. Whiz, wit. Represent.

Trees comin' down (4, Insightful)

Bayoudegradeable (1003768) | about 3 years ago | (#37225184)

This is going to be the first sustained wind even for most areas north of NC. MANY dead and weak branches and trees will be knocked down by Irene. I suspect a mess of power lines are gonna be knocked down. I doubt anyone is in grave peril here (it's too perilous!). But millions of folks will spend the weekend and longer without power. Trust a bayou dweller; get the stinky stuff out'cha freezer and fridge. After 3 days it gets nasty. Good luck.

Re:Trees comin' down (1)

siride (974284) | about 3 years ago | (#37225210)

Did you forget about Isabel in 2003?

poloshirts (-1)

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Getting a clue (4, Interesting)

stox (131684) | about 3 years ago | (#37225206)

What Category the storm is when it hits NYC is NOT the big issue. Wind damage is not what they are worried about. The size of the storm surge is the issue. NYC has an enormous amount of underground infrastructure. If water starts spilling into the subway system in quantity, the results would be catastrophic. See Chicago Flood, multiply by 1000.

AS LONG AS IT KILLS SOME RATS, WHATS A FEW PEPS !! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37225370)

Goddamm NYC is home to so many rats you'd think it was, uh, New York City OF RATS !! If it can drown even one tenth of one percent of a tenth of a percent of one percent, a few homeless, too, who can say it's a bad thing ?? Besides, this way you can suck out some more moolah from John Q. Taxpayer to pay off the corrupt office holders.

DC Earthquake (2, Funny)

rudy_wayne (414635) | about 3 years ago | (#37225240)

Here's a photo of the devastation [bestweekever.tv] resulting from Tuesday's earthquake in Washington DC

subject (4, Insightful)

Legion303 (97901) | about 3 years ago | (#37225246)

"the cities coastal areas"

This is what journalism has come to. Writers who can't fucking write.

Re:subject (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37225338)

retransmitting it verbatim with no editorial pride is what slashdot has come to.

slashdot = stagnated

Re:subject (1)

Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) | about 3 years ago | (#37225382)

"the cities coastal areas"

This is what journalism has come to. Writers who can't fucking write.

What, are you 12? Anyone can make a typo, especially one that passes spell-check. You want to blame anyone, blame the editors it's their job to catch those things.

Re:subject (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37225434)

It comes fine through the spell checker. Weather or not to write area or areas doesn't matter, their both correct.

Water (1)

pyro_dude (15885) | about 3 years ago | (#37225254)

Surprisingly, at this point, in Nassau county, NY, which borders NYC, and which the forecasts predict the eye of the storm will pass directly through/over, the stores are still stocked with water and supplies, and not completely mobbed. I've convinced my parents with whom I live to take some precaution and do some last minute buying and stockpiling of water and other assorted necessities tomorrow.

But it's not like the stores are packed, things are relatively calm.

I plan on turning my computer off once the winds and rain start and bunkering down in the underground basement with my laptop and iPhone (and battery-doubler) although power and cell lines are likely to go down for days, possibly more worst-case. Hopefully things will go smoothly and damage will be kept to a minimum. Still, something scary about the eye of a hurricane passing right over your neighborhood. I'm just hoping the top won't be blown off the house.

Evacuation (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37225350)

I'm from Staten Island and the block directly across the street from me is in hurricane "Zone A". I'm in Zone B, there's a Zone C, and the rest of the middle of the island isn't zoned at all.

Bloomberg is evacuating all of Zone A, and they can either leave the island, or go to any friend or relatives house not in Zone A, or 5 designated evacuation centers. (5 public high schools, one of which I went to.)

Here's a map for anyone in NYC to determine what zone you live in if you aren't aware:
http://www.nyc.gov/html/oem/downloads/pdf/hurricane_map_english.pdf

Working during Nor'Easter at the WTC (4, Interesting)

wandazulu (265281) | about 3 years ago | (#37225392)

I was working in World Trade Center #1, on the 95th floor, during the nor'easter of 1992, which if I recall was the remains of a hurricane. It was quite an intense experience; we had the space-saving "rolling file cabinets" that were rolling back and forth on their own, with one finally derailing and spilling files onto the floor (guess who had the job of cleaning it up). Bathroom stall doors were opening and closing by themselves, you could hear a definite creaking from inside the walls, and they were always shutting down the express elevator due to flex.

The thing that was really wild, though, and sadly not to be seen again, was looking out the window and being able to easily make out the other tower swaying as well. I had to keep telling myself "the buildings are designed for this...it's okay!" until it was time to go home.

What are we doing (seriously) (1)

Sierran (155611) | about 3 years ago | (#37225412)

I can't speak for most. I can speak for the ten or twelve of us who compared notes at work today over the snark. Sure, we're being flip. But there's no sense being stupid. Things I'm doing which we all thought seemed like a good plan:

1) Remembering that the winds aren't a big deal.
2) Being happy I live in a high spot, so rather than evacuating:
3) Stockpiling water (1-liter thermoplastic seltzer bottles ftw)
4) Freezing some of those (thermal inertia ftw if we lose power, plus, tasty cold water)
5) Making sure we have a week of food in the house for peeps *and* cats (check, I usually do, could prob. go 2 on what we have)
6) Making sure I have cash in the house (ATMs might die if net/power goes)
7) Making sure I have candles and lighters/matches
8) Making sure I have adequate whisky!

DONE.

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