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Another Unreleased iPhone Lost by Employee In a Bar

samzenpus posted more than 3 years ago | from the I-think-I-saw-this-episode-already dept.

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First time accepted submitter MightyMait writes "Looks like another Apple employee left an iPhone prototype in a bar. From the article: 'The errant iPhone, which went missing in San Francisco's Mission district in late July, sparked a scramble by Apple security to recover the device over the next few days, according to a source familiar with the investigation. Last year, an iPhone 4 prototype was bought by a gadget blog that paid $5,000 in cash. This year's lost phone seems to have taken a more mundane path: it was taken from a Mexican restaurant and bar and may have been sold on Craigslist for $200. Still unclear are details about the device, what version of the iOS operating system it was running, and what it looks like.' Once might be an accident, but two unreleased iPhones lost in bars starts to look like a strategy."

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nobody cares (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37269718)

Slashdot in decline with the loss of Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda. Samzenpus's initiative to reimagine Slashdot as reddit still on the table until pizza gets delivered to the FatLab.

Re:nobody cares (0)

ElectricTurtle (1171201) | more than 3 years ago | (#37269752)

See now that could have been funnier if you had just gone the extra step to s/FatLab/FatCave

Lost iPhone prototype? (0, Flamebait)

heptapod (243146) | more than 3 years ago | (#37269730)

Sounds like more viral marketing on Apple's part.

Did they find it at the Velvet Spike or Cruisy Pete's Sailor Retreat in the Castro?

Re:Lost iPhone prototype? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37269792)

If they find an iPad3 full of ironic 70's mustache porn in the unisex bathroom next, I'd say yer on to something.

Re:Lost iPhone prototype? (1)

_KiTA_ (241027) | more than 3 years ago | (#37270222)

If this is Viral Marketing, they owe Jason Chen [gsmarena.com] a very, VERY big apology and probably a rather hefty settlement check,

Re:Lost iPhone prototype? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37270688)

He actually might have been part of the marketing campaign.

It's a double-reverse (4, Insightful)

Slur (61510) | more than 3 years ago | (#37269734)

Once might be an accident, but two unreleased iPhones lost in bars starts to look like a strategy.

No, it actually makes it look more like an accident.

Re:It's a double-reverse (1)

drpimp (900837) | more than 3 years ago | (#37269794)

How many people lose their phones due to drunken bar attendance? So I second the accident and add that they are drunks.

Re:It's a double-reverse (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37269836)

How many? Well, based on a sample size of two, all of them.

Re:It's a double-reverse (1)

jhoegl (638955) | more than 3 years ago | (#37270480)

They work at Apple, they have a lot to drink about.

Re:It's a double-reverse (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37269820)

"Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action."
  -- attributed to Ian Fleming, among others

Re:It's a double-reverse (2, Insightful)

rutabagaman (120913) | more than 3 years ago | (#37269880)

To quote my friend Auric Goldfinger: "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times, it's enemy action."

Re:It's a double-reverse (4, Funny)

uniquename72 (1169497) | more than 3 years ago | (#37269970)

Maybe they were just holding it wrong.

Re:It's a double-reverse (1, Funny)

Reverand Dave (1959652) | more than 3 years ago | (#37270058)

Hey, that's not a bug, its a feature. BTW they may or may not be coming out with a stylish new case which prevents you from accidentally forgetting your phone at the tequila bar by not letting you take your hand off of it.

Re:It's a double-reverse (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37270076)

Once might be an accident, but two unreleased iPhones lost in bars starts to look like a strategy.

No, it actually makes it look more like an accident.

Happening in almost the exact same fashion? After all the hoopla and tomfoolery that happened LAST time? With Apple freaking out, suing people, and sending out SWAT members to one guy's house to harass him over it? I think not. I strongly think Apple would rethink their entire testing strategy at that point, or at least put far, far stronger checkin/checkout policies with their testers to ensure they (Apple) have a paper trail to make sure the testers know where the prototypes are at all times.

No, I'm chalking this up to Apple doing this as a marketing tactic. The only other possibility is severe incompetence in their security department.

Here's the real strategy (2)

billstewart (78916) | more than 3 years ago | (#37270340)

Apple knows they're going to lose more prototypes of iPhones, iPods, or whatever other new shiny things they make over the next few years, because that just happens sometimes. Employees accidentally take the wrong devices out of buildings, go to bars, whatever. They try to keep stuff under wraps, but can't stop all the accidental leaks.

So Apple's now having their art department make fake prototype devices and leave them around in bars on purpose. They don't all have to work perfectly, the amazingly cool features can be simulations, the battery life doesn't have to be as long as they'd like, the parts can be more expensive than the real manufactured product, the cases can be entirely different shapes, the phone number in the speed-dial list is for Fake Steve Jobs, and in general you'll see stuff that's at best quirky and interesting, but won't find out anything about the real products. And if those Android folks get one, it's going to take them forever to reverse engineer the product or application because it's fake.

Re:It's a double-reverse (1, Funny)

MightyMait (787428) | more than 3 years ago | (#37270498)

No, it actually makes it look more like an accident.

Cut me some slack. When I saw that the story was only 23 minutes old, I almost peed my pants and rushed to submit it to Slashdot. I had to think of *something* to say along with the headline and URL, and that was the best I could do. Apparently it was good enough.

It's been years since I'd even bothered to submit anything (and, as you can gather from TFS, none of my previous submissions were accepted). The fact that I'm strutting around right now as if I'd won the Superbowl must give you a sense of how rich and full my life is.

Re:It's a double-reverse (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37270550)

Cut me some slack.

No.

When I saw that the story was only 23 minutes old, I almost peed my pants and rushed to submit it to Slashdot. I had to think of *something* to say along with the headline and URL, and that was the best I could do. Apparently it was good enough.

This is why Slashdot sucks.

Strategy? (4, Insightful)

MrEricSir (398214) | more than 3 years ago | (#37269738)

I have friends who lose their phones in bars every month. I had no idea they were strategic geniuses, I assumed they were just clumsy and drunk. Silly me!

Interesting job interviews ... (2)

perpenso (1613749) | more than 3 years ago | (#37269838)

I have friends who lose their phones in bars every month. I had no idea they were strategic geniuses, I assumed they were just clumsy and drunk. Silly me!

The job interviews for marketing at mobile phone vendors must be fun. How many beers does it take before you begin to have trouble keeping track of items on the counter or table.

Re:Interesting job interviews ... (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 3 years ago | (#37270180)

Judging from the people I know who are in marketing, I do actually believe this being part of the interview. Well, at least the "how much can you drink before you pass out" part.

Re:Strategy? (2)

PCM2 (4486) | more than 3 years ago | (#37269924)

Phones, wallets full of money, 15" laptops... it's ridiculous the stuff people leave at San Francisco bars. Sometimes they don't come looking for it for a month.

Re:Strategy? (1)

The Grim Reefer2 (1195989) | more than 3 years ago | (#37269928)

I have friends who lose their phones in bars every month. I had no idea they were strategic geniuses, I assumed they were just clumsy and drunk. Silly me!

There's a bit of a difference when you lose your own production version phone vs. an unreleased version of an upcoming phone the company you work for is going to be marketing/selling in the near future. It makes me wonder just how many drunken clumsy incompetent idiots work in the iPhone department at Apple.

Re:Strategy? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37270196)

It makes me wonder just how many drunken clumsy incompetent idiots work in the iPhone department at Apple.

Based on the quality of their product... most of them. /runs

Re:Strategy? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37270198)

And is there room for one more?

Re:Strategy? (1)

blind monkey 3 (773904) | more than 3 years ago | (#37270460)

I have friends who lose their phones in bars every month. I had no idea they were strategic geniuses, I assumed they were just clumsy and drunk. Silly me!

There's a bit of a difference when you lose your own production version phone vs. an unreleased version of an upcoming phone the company you work for is going to be marketing/selling in the near future. It makes me wonder just how many drunken clumsy incompetent idiots work in the iPhone department at Apple.

I'm more curious what happens to the employees that lose "top secret" products. Surely if a person is given a phone that is not even released it would be paramount that the person is trustworthy enough to not lose it. At the very least a demotion, I would rate it as a sackable offence.
If nothing is done about it (especially considering how hard Apple works at "protecting their IP" ), something is rotten in the state of Denmark....

Re:Strategy? (1)

TexNA55 (1338761) | more than 3 years ago | (#37270086)

I have friends who lose their phones in bars every month. I had no idea they were strategic geniuses, I assumed they were just clumsy and drunk. Silly me!

..... Or they work for Apple (tm).

Re:Strategy? (1)

MrEricSir (398214) | more than 3 years ago | (#37270188)

Actually, some of them do.

BS Marketing... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37269740)

Even just once was suspicious... but twice? Yeah right. A regular iPhone is expensive enough that it would be silly to leave it somewhere. As for a prototype of their next generation hardware? Good luck. If this really was an accident, the idiot who did this should be fired.

So what? (5, Insightful)

Mensa Babe (675349) | more than 3 years ago | (#37269742)

Do you really need to know what it looks like? I'm sure it has rectangular design with rounded corners, I mean Apple has invented [slashdot.org] rounded rectangles so I'm sure they wouldn't waste their greatest contribution to the world of computing. Seriously, this whole secrecy reminds me about Harry Potter. No one would read it if it wasn't the greatest secret on Earth. People, it's just a freaking phone! Who cares if it was lost or not, how it looks like or what OS version is it running. It could run Window$ Mobile for what it's worth and people would still line up to buy them because it's Apple. There, I said it. What I am more concerned about is not the OS version, the design or whether it finally has a real keyboard or not, but more important issues that have real impact on Web developers. Does it finally understand Mobile Web sites? Does it render XHTML Mobile Profile? Or even WAP for god's sake? ActionScript anyone? What about MMS? Let's face it - no matter how badly does it do all of those things that you expect from a $29 Nokia, people will still buy them and love them and the Mobile Web developers will have to live with all of their limitations. XHTML MP, cHTML, WML, AS, MMS, SMS - the level of support of those technologies that in the pre-iOS era we used to take for granted is what we should be interested about, not the shape or color of the new iPhone.

Re:So what? (1)

diamondmagic (877411) | more than 3 years ago | (#37269882)

Actually, Apple literally did invent the rounded rectangle UI element: http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?story=Round_Rects_Are_Everywhere.txt [folklore.org]

Re:So what? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37270274)

The rounded corner is a character in the standard PETSCII charset and was used in plenty of user interfaces long before the 68000 was used in home computers.
Apple invented pretty much everything, but only if you live in Apple-world.

Re:So what? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37270308)

Actually, Apple literally didn't -- just because they did have an implementation (and had an amusing anecdote about it) doesn't make them the first.

The Commodore 128 (and AFAIK all other Commodore PCs until the Amiga) used PETSCII, which included a set of box-drawing characters, like the VT-100, IBM PC, and most other micros. However, in addition to the usual square corners, rounded corner pieces were present, allowing creation of roundrects all over the place. And they were indeed used as UI elements. Since PETSCII was in fact named for the PET (1977) on which it was first employed, I think it's safe to say your Apple anecdote dated 1981 does not represent the "invention" you think it does.

Re:So what? (2)

exomondo (1725132) | more than 3 years ago | (#37270372)

Actually, Apple literally did invent the rounded rectangle UI element: http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?story=Round_Rects_Are_Everywhere.txt [folklore.org]

I think you'll find that is just showing an algorithm for fast drawing of rounded rectangles, not an invention of any shape or UI element at all.

Re:So what? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37269944)

why would you need to understant mobile web sites when websites build a css custom version specifically for iOS?

And actionscript is basically Flash. and iOS don't like Flash cuz it is buggy. You can argue that apple should give the choice to customers whether or not to shoot themselves in the foot but if Apple doesnt want to support flash, its not the end of the internet. It's just Flash man.

All those technologies you listed are pretty deprecated. What are you, living in the 90s?

Re:So what? (2)

Dr Herbert West (1357769) | more than 3 years ago | (#37270260)

It's not Actionscript that's buggy, genius-- it's the set of actionscript developers that can't write stable code. Guns don't kill people, it's car analogies being driven by guns that kill.... ah, forget it.

Re:So what? (1)

exomondo (1725132) | more than 3 years ago | (#37270446)

why would you need to understant mobile web sites when websites build a css custom version specifically for iOS?

yeah why would you need standards when web developers can just build custom versions for specific browsers, seemed to work great for IE6, it's so good it's still sticking around.

Re:So what? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37270732)

why would you need to understant mobile web sites when websites build a css custom version specifically for iOS?

You may have noticed he was speaking as a web developer feeling somewhat put-upon that he has to "build a css custom version specifically for iOS" (note: websites don't build a damn thing, web developers do). Telling him that iOS doesn't need to support any of the other versions he's already producing (for other phones), because he's now making a custom version for iOS is circular reasoning and no doubt rather infuriating to him.

Telling him that the people he supports with those other versions are "llving in the 90s" doesn't really help either, particularly when in one case (XHTML MP) it's a plain lie. Even if it were true -- would it change anything? Even if he were a full-bore Flavor Aid-chugging, Jobs-blowing, cult-of-the-nibbled-fruit fanboy, it's his freaking job -- he still has to support the unenlightened folks who haven't bought iPhones, because his employer wants their business.

Re:So what? (2)

fredan (54788) | more than 3 years ago | (#37270152)

People, it's just a freaking phone!

Hey now!

It's Apple so it's not just a phone!

This is a Apple product, soon to come, so we need to know, right now, because we can't wait any further, goddammit!

Re:So what? (1)

Moridineas (213502) | more than 3 years ago | (#37270506)

I'm not sure you're thinking in the right direction. I personally can't STAND it when I get linked to a site and I get redirected to a mobile site and lose the link. Or the mobile site is severely functionally limited in comparison with the normal site. Or the "back" button doesn't work properly on mobile sites. Or the viewport is set so that I can't zoom in. This covers almost all the "mobile" sites out there. I almost always try to just browse on the regular site, but zealous webmasters often don't make that easy. Why on earth would I want to view a WAP page?! By ActionScript I assume you mean Flash? Over than really terrible restaurant websites [slate.com] , I don't miss Flash.

And yes, the iPhone does support MMS and has for ... 2 years? 1.5 years? Sure they lagged in support, but it seems a strange criticism today.

roflcoptor (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37269746)

Wonder if it gets any service.

Re:roflcoptor (1)

The Grim Reefer2 (1195989) | more than 3 years ago | (#37269958)

Wonder if it gets any service.

Only if you hold it correctly. ;-)

Missing source mention (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37269754)

Almost all of this text was taken vertatim from a CNET article posted earlier today: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20099899-37/apple-loses-another-unreleased-iphone-exclusive/

Re:Missing source mention (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37269772)

That would be why that exact link is in the summary.

New feature! All calls must be approved by Apple. (1, Troll)

Kenja (541830) | more than 3 years ago | (#37269782)

In order to make calls on the new iPhone you must select the phone number you wish to contact from the iPhone Marketplace (only $0.99 per number!). To get your number listed in the Marketplace you must pay the $300 per year development license price and submit your information from a Macintosh computer. Apple reserves the right to pull already released numbers from the Marketplace thereby erasing them from everyones phones.

Re:New feature! All calls must be approved by Appl (0)

Duradin (1261418) | more than 3 years ago | (#37270036)

Apple may reserve the right but Google exercises it.

Re:New feature! All calls must be approved by Appl (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37270126)

On the bright side you only have to list your phone number in one store and it works with all flavors^D^D^D^D^D^D versions.

Re:New feature! All calls must be approved by Appl (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 3 years ago | (#37270206)

Could you patent that before Apple does?

First we need to know ... (1)

perpenso (1613749) | more than 3 years ago | (#37269790)

Once might be an accident, but two unreleased iPhones lost in bars starts to look like a strategy

First we need to know how many unreleased iPhones are out there and for how long this field testing goes on. iPhones get lost/stolen in bars all the time, the pre-release loss rate may be comparable to the post-release loss rate. Personally I think it looks like drunk guys are not very good at keeping track of the expensive gadget they leave laying on the counter or table.

Re:First we need to know ... (1)

jd (1658) | more than 3 years ago | (#37269832)

Two iPhones walk into a bar...

Re:First we need to know ... (1)

fotoguzzi (230256) | more than 3 years ago | (#37270090)

Thank you, jd! Maybe the phone's owner saw therecent article about how the new CEO favored printers.

Can't those employees get bungee cords? (1)

Glooko_Archive (1034144) | more than 3 years ago | (#37269800)

I mean if they dummy corded the phones to them with like a coiled bungee cord I'm sure the phones are very less likely to get lost unless someone cut the cord on them.

Re:Can't those employees get bungee cords? (1)

SnarfQuest (469614) | more than 3 years ago | (#37270218)

I mean if they dummy corded the phones to them with like a coiled bungee cord I'm sure the phones are very less likely to get lost unless someone cut the cord on them.

If they did that, then they would have to buy back their employees on Craigs list.

Re:Can't those employees get bungee cords? (1)

jd (1658) | more than 3 years ago | (#37270376)

A better idea would seem to be to produce a set of fake iPhone prototypes fitted with ghost peppers and an electric heater. If the phone "wanders", the area gets peppered.

Hey.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37269812)

Michael Bay should make a movie about the process of Apple getting iPhone prototypes back.

Strategy (4, Insightful)

Kittenman (971447) | more than 3 years ago | (#37269822)

1: Create media interest in new product

2: Deny all access to new product for rank-and-file

3: When attention starts to wane, "accidentally" leave product somewhere it can be found and analyzed

4: Watch media hype increase

5: Release new product

6: Profit!!

Re:Strategy (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 3 years ago | (#37270220)

It's not like Apple is the only company that uses hype, is this Google-Facebook thingamajig still invite-only?

Now that Jobs is gone... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37269824)

Tell me that it has a 3.5" disk drive. I really miss them.

Not again... (2)

geogob (569250) | more than 3 years ago | (#37269826)

It was neither funny nor subtle the first time. Now a second time? I was going to say that someone at marketing lost his original touch, but then I remembered the whole never ending "I'm a mac vs. I'm a PC" campaign... and that was that.

Who losses a phone in a bar anyway?!

Re:Not again... (2, Informative)

geekoid (135745) | more than 3 years ago | (#37269916)

Thousands of users..

Re:Not again... (1)

BlackTriangle (581416) | more than 3 years ago | (#37269922)

I`ve known people to leave their phones in their coats, their coats at coat check, forget the coat, and that`s that, no more phone. Also, girls are really bad about leaving their purses or super-sized "wallets" (what the heck are those things called anyways?) lying around while they dance...

Re:Not again... (1)

The Grim Reefer2 (1195989) | more than 3 years ago | (#37269982)

Who losses a phone in a bar anyway?!

Apparently Apple employees.

Re:Not again... (1)

whisper_jeff (680366) | more than 3 years ago | (#37270216)

Who losses a phone in a bar anyway?!

Drunk people?

Drunkards? (1)

a_nonamiss (743253) | more than 3 years ago | (#37269892)

Either Apple encourages their employees to have fun on the job, or they need to offer alcohol treatment for their employees.

radio radio... (1)

neurocutie (677249) | more than 3 years ago | (#37269898)

It would be nice to know what radios this thing has... CDMA? GSM? AWS? LTE?

how many more before we address the (5, Insightful)

nimbius (983462) | more than 3 years ago | (#37269912)

real issue. Apple has a drinking problem.

Re:how many more before we address the (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37269988)

Exactly. It's high time they open a bar inside their offices so that any prototypes lost while the employee was in a drunken stupor can easily be recovered.

Re:how many more before we address the (1)

SnarfQuest (469614) | more than 3 years ago | (#37270266)

Is it just one employee who gets drunk and keeps losing the phones, or is it a company wide issue? They could just not give Jobs an experimental phone to play with when he goes bar hopping.

Re:how many more before we address the (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37270748)

Apple has a problem with bars

Fool me once... (1)

MoldySpore (1280634) | more than 3 years ago | (#37269918)

Wouldn't you think that Apple would have immediately made it against policy to leave Apple grounds with a prototype if they were serious about preventing them from being lost? Unless Apple announces that in accordance with their policy set in place last year, WHEN THE EXACT SAME THING HAPPENED, the employee who lost the phone this time is fired, and then ask the public for assistance in returning of the phone, it is a marketing strategy in my opinion.

Re:Fool me once... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37269962)

Kind of hard to do real-world testing if you don't take it off company property.

Re:Fool me once... (2)

MoldySpore (1280634) | more than 3 years ago | (#37270046)

But "real world testing" can be done BEFORE going out to the bar and getting wasted enough to leave your phone there...especially if it's a prototype.

Re:Fool me once... (1)

PCM2 (4486) | more than 3 years ago | (#37270604)

Really? Judging from what I've seen, real people use their phones a lot more at bars than they do at the supermarket. In my book, "real world testing" doesn't mean "take it home and fiddle around with it as if you're using it."

Re:Fool me once... (1)

darth dickinson (169021) | more than 3 years ago | (#37270052)

You are assuming said real-world testing. Where people hold the phone wrong.

Re:Fool me twice... can't get fooled again! (1)

Kylon99 (2430624) | more than 3 years ago | (#37269968)

What does seem strange is that they would use the exact same leak 'method.' i.e. once again leaving a phone at the bar. Do they actually *want* people to suspect they're leaking the phone on purpose?

How about some different venues, like... a public toilet? At the desk of some Apple journalist? At a White House briefing?

Re:Fool me twice... can't get fooled again! (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 3 years ago | (#37270228)

Hey, are we talking about it or are we not? It worked.

Re:Fool me twice... can't get fooled again! (1)

Rockoon (1252108) | more than 3 years ago | (#37270408)

Do they actually *want* people to suspect they're leaking the phone on purpose?

What precisely is the downside to people thinking, or even knowing, that these phones are fake-leaked?

Do you now think less of Apple than you previously did?

The fact of the matter is that regardless of how you feel about Apple, the details about upcoming products are welcome by many.

Re:Fool me twice... can't get fooled again! (1)

Kylon99 (2430624) | more than 3 years ago | (#37270500)

Hello! Why the personal attack? Nothing about how I feel about Apple matters to the intial discussion. It is simply that when one wants to be sneaky, one should obviously not re-use the same method. This applies to anyone in the world.

How does this translate into being disappointed in Apple? Or do you have something in mind here which you are reading into other people's replies?

Re:Fool me once... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37270022)

My thoughts exactly.
If it's such a hush hush don't let anyone see big deal why is someone allowed to take one on a bar hopping night?
Either the iSecurity are really bad at their job or someone has a hidden agenda. Well only hidden to the members of the iCult that is.

Well.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37269972)

It looks like Apple marketdroids spend too much time getting drunk in bars.

Re:Well.. (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 3 years ago | (#37270240)

Hmmm... considering the ideas that usually come out of the marketing department of the companies I worked for so far, I guess getting drunk regularly is a job requirement.

And now... (1)

kakyoin01 (2040114) | more than 3 years ago | (#37270020)

And now I bet someone stole it, and will sell it to some unsuspecting everyperson for $60. I smell another interesting stolen goods story!

from the self-destruct button needed department... (2)

fotoguzzi (230256) | more than 3 years ago | (#37270044)

Okay, everyone call Apple and say you found this funny looking iPhone in a bar....

Response from cops to Apple (4, Insightful)

manekineko2 (1052430) | more than 3 years ago | (#37270112)

I find most interesting from this episode the following:

Apple electronically traced the phone to a two-floor, single-family home in San Francisco's Bernal Heights neighborhood, according to the source.
When San Francisco police and Apple's investigators visited the house, they spoke with a man in his twenties who acknowledged being at Cava 22 on the night the device went missing. But he denied knowing anything about the phone. The man gave police permission to search the house, and they found nothing, the source said.

When you or I go to the police and tell them our phone/computer was stolen, but we can track it via GPS from any computer and can even use the built-in camera to take pictures of the perpetrator, they tell us to take a hike and go read up on vigilante justice.

When Apple goes to the police with a missing phone, the police go with them, stick around to search a person's house, and in the last case:

Last year's prototype iPhone went missing when Robert Gray Powell, an Apple computer engineer who was 28 years old at the time, left it in a German beer garden in Redwood City, Calif.
In early August, San Mateo County prosecutors filed misdemeanor criminal charges against two men, Brian Hogan and Sage Wallower, for allegedly selling Powell's iPhone 4 prototype to Gawker Media's Gizmodo blog. An arraignment is scheduled for tomorrow.
Prosecutors obtained a warrant to search the home of Gizmodo editor Jason Chen, and indicated they might prosecute Gizmodo, but eventually decided not to file charges.

Re:Response from cops to Apple (1)

ScottyLad (44798) | more than 3 years ago | (#37270650)

When you or I go to the police and tell them our phone/computer was stolen, but we can track it via GPS from any computer and can even use the built-in camera to take pictures of the perpetrator, they tell us to take a hike and go read up on vigilante justice.

When Apple goes to the police with a missing phone, the police go with them, stick around to search a person's house, and in the last case...

That's because there's a difference between the value of an individual's retail handset and an industrial prototype.

In the Gizmodo instance, the cost of the loss wasn't a few hundred bucks for a handset - it was a few hundred thousand, or maybe even a few million bucks as potential customers abruptly stopped purchasing the current product line in the shops at the time.

If you or I contributed as many tax dollars to the US as Apple, we could probably expect a pretty darn attentive service from the police as well.

Cnet Comments (2)

mkiwi (585287) | more than 3 years ago | (#37270116)

As some people have already said in the comments on CNet, this entire story may be made up, as the only citation for the phone being lost–and searched for–is an unknown source. The SFPD never received a request from Apple to get the phone, as is noted in the article; however, the unknown source tells us that SFPD did search a house in the SF area. I have a hard time believing this story because of a lack of specific information about the phone itself.

The conclusion? CNet page views. Mission Accomplished.

Tell me if you've heard this one. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37270132)

An Apple employee walked into a bar...

In other news: 3G MacBook, Apple wants it back (2)

QuasiSteve (2042606) | more than 3 years ago | (#37270144)

Remember that prototype MacBook with what appeared to be a SIM card clot and antenna popping up on e-bay?
http://news.cnet.com/8301-27076_3-20092180-248/3g-equipped-macbook-prototype-pops-up-on-ebay/ [cnet.com]
( I'd link to a Slashdot article but Google's failing to find it. Or maybe /. never covered it. )

Welp, they want it back. Rather suddenly, coinciding with cnet's requests for comments from Apple.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-27076_3-20099494-248/apple-wants-its-3g-macbook-prototype-back/ [cnet.com]

I had actually been talking to Cnet all week, since the writer found the full backstory (especially the small claims part) interesting. He asked me if he could publish it, and I asked him to wait until I had heard something from Apple. Despite all my attempts I never did, so I finally said sure go ahead.

Then did Apple contact me . . . . directly, by phone. Quite possibly because Cnet contacted Apple PR to ask for comment before publishing. Their representative was very pleasant and polite actually, and we chatted for a while. He promised to call me back an hour later with a resolution. When he did they wanted to send an agent from Charlotte directly to me to recover the laptop immediately, tonight, and I didn't feel comfortable with that. Not based only on a phone call, with nothing at all in writing, and in the middle of the night (by the time they would reach Raleigh).

I said I needed to consult my lawyer, since I had promised I would do so before taking any action regarding the machine, and that we will take the matter back up first thing in the morning. I'll let him handle the matter from here rather than dealing with Apple directly, and hopefully everyone will be happy with the outcome. I actually rather like Apple and their products, so try not to bash too much guys! They haven't really done anything wrong at this point.

source: http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=13272429&postcount=38 [macrumors.com]

You'd have a drinking problem too (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37270636)

If your (ex)CEO wore that many turtle necks!

Reminds Me of a Joke (1)

NicknamesAreStupid (1040118) | more than 3 years ago | (#37270170)

Guy walks up to a discarded iPhone on a bar.

Guy: Hey, you're new here.
iPhone: Yeah, that's right.
Guy: Could I sell you to iGadget for a million dollars?
iPhone: Oh, well, yes!
Guy: How about ten dollars.
iPhone: How dare you! What kind of iPhone do you think I am?
Guy: We already established that, now we're just talkin' price.

An Apple employee walks into a bar... (1)

sootman (158191) | more than 3 years ago | (#37270178)

Wait, stop me if you've heard this one before.

iPhone walks into a bar... (2)

seven of five (578993) | more than 3 years ago | (#37270254)

Bartender says, hey, buddy... you look lost.

Now it's obvious . . . (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37270354)

. . . it's a cheesy marketing ploy.

I think I know more than TFA does. (1)

icannotthinkofaname (1480543) | more than 3 years ago | (#37270356)

Still unclear are details about the device, what version of the iOS operating system it was running, and what it looks like.

(Emphasis mine)

Having never owned an Apple product in my life, I just googled images of iphone original, iphone 3g, iphone 3gs, and iphone 4. After carefully comparing the changes over the years, I think I have a pretty good guess about what the iphone 5 prototype probably looks like.

Oooook. come tell me that this is not a marketing (1)

unity100 (970058) | more than 3 years ago | (#37270438)

ploy. same thing, happening twice eh. in the SAME fashion to boot. aaalright.

Obligatory Hunt for Red October Reference (0)

HellYeahAutomaton (815542) | more than 3 years ago | (#37270492)

Ambassador Andrei Lysenko: There is another matter... one I'm reluctant to...
Dr. Jeffrey Pelt: Please.
Ambassador Andrei Lysenko: One of our submarines, an Alfa, was last reported in the area of the Grand Banks. We have not heard from her for some time.
Dr. Jeffrey Pelt: Andrei... you've lost another submarine?

Re:Obligatory Hunt for Red October Reference (0)

PCM2 (4486) | more than 3 years ago | (#37270630)

Ambassador Lysenko: It seems that the initial reports that one of our submarines was missing were not completely accurate. The submarine in question... is commanded by Captain Marko Ramius. Apparently he's suffered a kind of mental or nervous break down. Just before he sailed, he posted a letter to Admiral Yuri Padorin, in which he announced his intention to ... to fire his missiles on the United States.
Dr. Jeffrey Pelt: But of course.
Ambassador Andrei Lysenko: You... you expected this?
Dr. Jeffrey Pelt: Naturally, Ambassador. For you see... in Soviet Russia, lost submarine hunts us!

Hmmmmmmm... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37270568)

So, an iPhone walks into a bar...

So an iPhone walks into a bar... (1)

RubberDogBone (851604) | more than 3 years ago | (#37270690)

And finds out the warranty won't cover that kind of damage.

looks like a strategy... (1)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 3 years ago | (#37270698)

Well, if it works...

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