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Drunkeness and Sexual Harassment Alleged At Microsoft UK

Unknown Lamer posted more than 2 years ago | from the vps-just-wanna-have-fun-man dept.

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rtfa-troll writes "A picture of vodka fountains, indefinite amounts of Jaegermeister, and sexual harassment is emerging from Microsoft. The former second in command at Microsoft UK was accused of sexual misconduct involving at least five separate women. A Microsoft internal investigation was unable to prove the allegations but decided to fire Simon Negus for having 'behaved dishonestly, and thereby acted in a manner calculated or likely to destroy trust and confidence between him and Microsoft' and sue him £75k. Now Negus, who already has a new job as COO at Upstream Systems has struck back with a £10 million false dismissal suit alleging a culture of drunken parties and claiming that other (Male) management at Microsoft were so drunk they followed a female Microsoft UK manager into the ladies' lavatories. I guess we can now guess why senior managers go away to Microsoft vowing never to buy anything and come back with signed contracts; presumably it was just lying there next to them in the morning and they were too afraid to ask what happened."

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What's so bad about little partying? (-1, Offtopic)

ge7 (2194648) | more than 2 years ago | (#37275180)

The women joined the party and my god, the guy had the nerves to flirt with them. I mean come on, where is the world heading to when we see misconduct like that. Maybe any of us shouldn't even talk to each other so people don't get wrong ideas. At the same time the women of course weared sexy short skirts and shirts that highlights their boobs. I wonder why it's allowed for women to do that and show some leg too while if a man would show around part of his penis like that all women would label him as a pervert.

Do women hate sex? They do, but do you know why? Is it because of some kind of woman-guilt from an outdated puritan societal dogma? Or perhaps a stigma of guilt or a fear of abandonment? No. None of these things are it. Women hate sex simply because they are lousy at it.

This can be proved in a quick stroll down the checkout aisle at your local market of groceries — a place thick to the rafters with women. Take a look at some of their magazines and you will no doubt see a running theme: ‘Ten Ways to not suck in bed’, ‘Six Things to do to Your Man that aren’t Lay There Like a Futon’, and ‘Honestly who gives half a fuck about socks being on or off? Jesus Christ that’s pathetic’.

Also, much in the same way that a wall probably doesn’t like or doesn’t care about playing tennis with you, it’s definitely not your fault. Don’t let your sympathetic male compassion get the better of you. You could be dancing around like a maniac and pulling stunts out of your figurative ass like Johnny Magic the Wicked Awesome — maybe some whirl-arounds and in your face spikes from across the court — it’s really up to you as the man — but no matter what, the wall will remain unfazed. It just sits there doing nothing like a lump on a log probably thinking that it wants a new expensive coat of paint.

This same theory can be applied to many other things as well. For example: that women hate problems.

In Chinese, the symbol for crisis is the same as opportunity. I haven’t looked that up, but I heard it from a man so it’s probably true because us men have something called integrity. This means that in a time of crisis, we men are at our show stopping best. Take a flat tire on a moonless night for instance. While a man is out changing nuts and bolts and doing all manner of screwing on the side of the road, will a woman so much as think to grab a flashlight and help? No.

That’s because women hate holding flashlights, because they are complete rubbish at it. Force a woman to hold a flashlight when it matters and you’re likely to catch her aiming it into the sky for absolutely no goddamn reason. You’re better off just duct taping it to a mailbox and catapulting it into space.

Re:What's so bad about little partying? (1)

jhoegl (638955) | more than 2 years ago | (#37275224)

Are.... are you Dr. Bob's "alt"?

Re:What's so bad about little partying? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37275356)

It was sounding great, but I could have used a little more subluxation.

"Simon Negus" (1)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | more than 2 years ago | (#37276420)

Isn't that the name of the Evil Necromancer from some supernatural pot-boiler?

Either that, or the Jewish Aleister Crowley.

Re:What's so bad about little partying? (1)

NeutronCowboy (896098) | more than 2 years ago | (#37275288)

Pretty weak troll. You should have stopped after paragraph one. About a 3 on a scale of 1-10. For the record, Dr. Bob sits at a solid 10.

Re:What's so bad about little partying? (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 2 years ago | (#37275456)

I thought it was hilarious and it made me feel better about myself for not being a bitter woman-hater.

Re:What's so bad about little partying? (0)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 2 years ago | (#37275566)

Or a fucking moron.

Re:What's so bad about little partying? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37276372)

Yeah... but having dated a girl who had a "problem car", the part about the flashlight made me laugh out loud.

That's Just Like Women, Alright! (2)

eldavojohn (898314) | more than 2 years ago | (#37275290)

Take a flat tire on a moonless night for instance. While a man is out changing nuts and bolts and doing all manner of screwing on the side of the road, will a woman so much as think to grab a flashlight and help? No.

Let me guess, everything you learned about women you learned on TV [youtube.com] ? And you're still single you say? Marvelous, simply marvelous.

Bruce Molholland, is that you [theonion.com] ?

Re:That's Just Like Women, Alright! (1)

Gilmoure (18428) | more than 2 years ago | (#37276036)

But if there's a zombie attack, people seem to skip the chainsaws, shotguns, cricket bats and flamethrowers and go straight for the flash light. Weird!

Re:What's so bad about little partying? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37275328)

Do women hate sex? They do, but do you know why? Is it because of some kind of woman-guilt from an outdated puritan societal dogma? Or perhaps a stigma of guilt or a fear of abandonment? No. None of these things are it. Women hate sex simply because they are lousy at it.

I seriously get the impression it's you that is doing something wrong there mate. From what I can tell, women don't hate sex, certainly not the women I've been with, they just think there's much more to life than just that. And they'd be right.

By the way, it is entirely possible to take flirting too far. There's absolutely nothing wrong with flirting, but no means no and alcohol is not an excuse.

Re:What's so bad about little partying? (1, Insightful)

ZeroExistenZ (721849) | more than 2 years ago | (#37275438)

women don't hate sex ... they just think there's much more to life than just that

It depends. There are plenty of women who enjoy sex. But they are easily painted off as whores.

Or there are women who confuse sex with love and get hurt all the time after someone just "played them", so they choose not to get burned anymore.

Then there are the women who fuse sex with love and don't give their body unless they're in a loving relationship and feel a connection.

For men sex is a whole different kind of thing. And flirting and such serves another purpose or goal for each sex.

Re:What's so bad about little partying? (3, Insightful)

geekoid (135745) | more than 2 years ago | (#37275346)

IT's a work function, you don't flirt. It' puts pressure on people because they are afraid to loose their job. And why are you overlooking the part where he kept touching them inappropriately?

"course weared sexy short skirts and shirts that highlights their boobs.
ah. You are blaming victims so yu can not feel guilt about seeing women as sex objects.

Why would you company a women leg to a penis...I mean my penis* could be confused with a leg, but not most others.

"Do women hate sex?"
Just with you.

"They do, but do you know why? "
no, they don't.

" Women hate sex simply because they are lousy at it."
ah, the blaming of women for your own sexual inadequacy.

You are a sociopath. A dangerous one.

*ob. lrg penis joke.

Re:What's so bad about little partying? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37275634)

"course weared sexy short skirts and shirts that highlights their boobs.
ah. You are blaming victims so yu can not feel guilt about seeing women as sex objects.

You sir are a dipshit. There's this thing called "dressing appropriately". Wearing a short skirt is not appropriate, it makes men uncomfortable too. The door swings in both directions.

Re:What's so bad about little partying? (1)

Your.Master (1088569) | more than 2 years ago | (#37277068)

Wearing a short skirt is so much less inappropriate than repeatedly touching somebody who doesn't want to be touched, that it doesn't really deserve to be discussed at the same time.

And even if it was on the same level, person A doing something wrong doesn't excuse person B doing something wrong.

...do you seriously get uncomfortable around women wearing short skirts? What the fuck is up with that?

Re:What's so bad about little partying? (1)

hawkinspeter (831501) | more than 2 years ago | (#37275430)

Where's Dr Bob when you need him?

Re:What's so bad about little partying? (1)

DeathToBill (601486) | more than 2 years ago | (#37275504)

Why can't a woman be more like a man?

Men are so honest, so thoroughly square;

Eternally noble, historic'ly fair;

Who, when you win, will always give your back a pat.

Well, why can't a woman be like that?

Why does ev'ryone do what the others do?

Can't a woman learn to use her head?

Why do they do ev'rything their mothers do?

Why don't they grow up- well, like their father instead?

Why can't a woman take after a man?

Men are so pleasant, so easy to please;

Whenever you are with them, you're always at ease.
 

And so on.

Re:What's so bad about little partying? (1)

Runaway1956 (1322357) | more than 2 years ago | (#37275730)

Poor baby. Sucks to be you, huh? Not once in your life, has a (actually, more than ten in my lifetime) woman grabbed you in a bar, and told you, "You're going home with me tonight!" Nor, have you ever experienced a (different) woman dragging you to the bedroom, saying "Gotta make hay while the sun shines", totally ignoring your protests that you need a shower. You can't find a woman who DEMANDS to have your baby? Damn. Sometimes I think life sucks but it would REALLY suck to be you! Everyone has their highs and lows - except you. All you know, is lows!!

I could recommend that you go see a shrink - but the shrink won't get you laid or anything. All he can do is make you feel better about not getting laid.

Re:What's so bad about little partying? (1)

Registered Coward v2 (447531) | more than 2 years ago | (#37275834)

Take a flat tire on a moonless night for instance. While a man is out changing nuts and bolts and doing all manner of screwing on the side of the road, will a woman so much as think to grab a flashlight and help? No.

If he's already doing all manner of screwing on the side of a road, having a women grab a flashlight and do whatever with it would not be necessary or helpful; in fact it could be very painful.

Re:What's so bad about little partying? (0)

Gilmoure (18428) | more than 2 years ago | (#37275988)

Wait, shirts that highlights their boobs.; you think boobs are sexually attractive? You do know that they're just modified sweat glands that are used for feeding baby primates, right? And you want to color on them with fluorescent markers?

Your weird!

Re:What's so bad about little partying? (1)

Tsingi (870990) | more than 2 years ago | (#37276790)

Wait, shirts that highlights their boobs.;

you think boobs are sexually attractive? You do know that they're just modified sweat glands that are used for feeding baby primates, right? And you want to color on them with fluorescent markers?

Your weird!

That would be "you're wierd", not "your wierd". Learn to spell.

Boobs are sex organs. To fulfil their part time function as mammary glands they have no need to be as large or as sensitive.

Re:What's so bad about little partying? (1)

LC Trucido (1934100) | more than 2 years ago | (#37277050)

That would be "you're wierd", not "your wierd". Learn to spell.

Oh, the ironey...

Re:What's so bad about little partying? (2)

greghodg (1453715) | more than 2 years ago | (#37276012)

I thought that was hilarious, but as I was reading it, it seemed rather unlikely that someone could come up with that entire thing in time to be the first post. And of course, he didn't. Everything after the first paragraph is copied from someone named Dick Masterson, "the most chauvinistic man alive". http://www.menarebetterthanwomen.com/why-women-hate-sex/ [menarebett...nwomen.com]

Re:What's so bad about little partying? (1)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | more than 2 years ago | (#37276444)

Thanks for your insight. It's always nice to get a view of how others might see things from the outside of a situation.

In this case, I believe the class of "others" in question is that of the closeted homosexual.

Meh (2)

d.the.duck (2100600) | more than 2 years ago | (#37275190)

This happens at every company.....until someone reports it.

Re:Meh (1)

jhoegl (638955) | more than 2 years ago | (#37275246)

This is true. I worked for a company that did a lot of partying. It was fun times when we went out, a lot of dating, etc.

This wasnt the craziest part, the sexism was prevalent, including pay differences.
So I left.

Re:Meh (0)

cayenne8 (626475) | more than 2 years ago | (#37275562)

I remember when some companies I worked at...had food and parties for us on campus...with free drinks. Man, that was fun...

Unfortunately, everywhere is so "PC" these days, and afraid of any kind of problems from sue happy people.

Kinda sux that some people looking to make a buck out of suing ruin it for us all.

Hell, the open bar Xmas party now is becoming a thing of the past....in some ways, the old days WERE better...at least more fun.

Re:Meh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37275722)

"The minister's cat is a WORRISOME cat!"
"The minister's cat is... oh bother..."

Political Correctness at Startups (1)

billstewart (78916) | more than 2 years ago | (#37276732)

One thing that consistently seems to happen at startups is that once they have more than a dozen or so people, there's a Friday afternoon beer party, and when the company gets up to 100-200 people they hire a professional HR department, whose first move is to kill the beer party.

But also, this is the UK Microsoft, and apparently it's more socially acceptable to get ripping drunk in the UK than it is in the US.

Re:Meh (1)

tripleevenfall (1990004) | more than 2 years ago | (#37277342)

You can still have social functions, they just have to be stupid, like everyone riding go-karts or playing laser tag in the hopes that this will make our product better.

Re:Meh (1)

azalin (67640) | more than 2 years ago | (#37275334)

At least ERGO had the courtesy to supply hookers in addition to the booze.

Re:Meh (1)

capnkr (1153623) | more than 2 years ago | (#37275348)

Well, MS UK could hire Douglas Reynholm [wikipedia.org] to replace Negus...

Re:Meh (0)

1s44c (552956) | more than 2 years ago | (#37275360)

This happens at every company.....until someone reports it.

I'm a pretty big Microsoft hater but I have to say I totally agree with you.

People with any kind of power will abuse it and men often abuse their position to get female attention. The women who flirt with the boss get good reviews, the women that sleep with the boss get big pay raises, the ones that have their kids get jobs for life on pay they could not otherwise justify. It happens everywhere just like fiddling expenses and booking extra flights to collect air miles. It's not seen as wrong until someone starts complaining.

Reminds me of a quote (1)

Moraelin (679338) | more than 2 years ago | (#37277040)

âoeThe measure of a man is what he does with power.â -- Plato

(And to keep with times, I'd say it goes for women too.)

Re:Meh (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37275452)

Speaking of "reporting", anyone find it odd that a search for Simon Negus on MSNBC [msnbc.com] returns no results? The Bing [bing.com] page shows mostly non-scandal related links (only two "negative" articles on the first two pages). Filtering results maybe?

Mij

Re:Meh (1)

vux984 (928602) | more than 2 years ago | (#37276886)

The bing results are very similiar to the google results. The only difference is the bloomberg article which is link 1 on google is link 12 on bing.

I think we're just seeing a difference in the ranking algorithms... google is pushing "news" harder than the facebook, linked in, etc stuff.

As for not finding it on msnbc... its not on CNN either, or Fox News, or CBS News... so I don't read much into that at all either.

Re:Meh (3, Insightful)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 2 years ago | (#37275586)

Why doesn't this ever happen at companies I work at? The places I've worked suck the sex drive out, along with motivation, sense of self-preservation and sometimes even the desire to breathe.

Bad summary (4, Informative)

Moraelin (679338) | more than 2 years ago | (#37275822)

Well, actually the first article says that it was an annual sales conference, and generally you'd notice everyone even mentioned is a manager or HR consultant or such. E.g., the woman he asked to flutter her eyelashes is apparently a HR consultant, at a quick googling.

What? Did you think they had parties with unlimited vodka and JÃgermeister for the peons?

So unless you were some sales manager or such, yeah, probably you wouldn't see that happening at any company you worked for, or even at MS. They're not going to do that for the likes of YOU, of course.

Re:Bad summary (1)

houghi (78078) | more than 2 years ago | (#37276368)

I have been to company parties where there was almost unlimited amounts of alcohol available. Paid by the company and.or by partners.

I am talking renting a disco and asking all to come (about 500 people). 3 day holiday for all with partner. Yes, this included all the peons.

Many 'short term relations' were happening during those times.

At all companies I have been there were always smaller or larger events where there was almost unlimited amounts of alcohol available for free. The managers almost always went home early, specifically so they would NOT see what was going on and nobody was to be held accountable, because the boss saw stuff.

Several companies have monthly drinks for all. One company even told that if you came, you could leave half an hour earlier to encourage ALL to come. All company paid for several hours.

Nothing more fun as a peon to have too much to drink with a CEO.

But then I live in Belgium.

Re:Meh (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37276008)

It's not the place you work, so much as it's just you. You don't have the drive and social skills necessary to get to a position where you get to party like this. This is why every place you work at "suck the sex drive out, along with motivation, sense of self-preservation and sometimes even the desire to breathe."

Fag.

Re:Meh (1)

ObsessiveMathsFreak (773371) | more than 2 years ago | (#37276566)

Why doesn't this ever happen at companies I work at?

To hazard a guess, everyone where you work is probably not that attractive.

Re:Meh (1)

Just Some Guy (3352) | more than 2 years ago | (#37277060)

Why doesn't this ever happen at companies I work at?

Everyone was too busy making stuff?

Sexual Harassment...Panda! (2)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 2 years ago | (#37275778)

When one programmer panda touches another programmer panda in a private place without permission, that makes me a saaaad panda :-(

sounds annoying (5, Insightful)

Trepidity (597) | more than 2 years ago | (#37275214)

Unless it's a small startup formed with people you're friends with, there's not much worse than a corporate culture of socially coerced "fun". Let's party with the boss!

Re:sounds annoying (4, Insightful)

PPH (736903) | more than 2 years ago | (#37275342)

Its either "party with the boss" or you're the one who has to stay sober and get the work done.

So the boss' idiot son-in-law can take credit for it.

Re:sounds annoying (1)

brainboyz (114458) | more than 2 years ago | (#37276300)

I was that guy once. Worked many 30+ hour overnights to correct problems created by the adopted idiot son and the son's best friend, lead coder and project manager with no experience, respectively.

I was fired 9 months in for not getting enough done.

Re:sounds annoying (1)

Xest (935314) | more than 2 years ago | (#37275380)

It's not just internal. When I went on a trip to Reading in a previous job where they were showing off new server technologies they had hired good time girls there too to basically act as eye candy for all the people they were trying to tie in to a future with Microsoft tech.

But let's also be honest, Microsoft is far from unique here, it's not fair to single them out over it, really, it's a problem with corporate sales and marketing culture across many industries.

Re:sounds annoying (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37276352)

... When I went on a trip to Reading in a previous job...

I am so sorry for you. I am glad that you survived the trip

Re:sounds annoying (1)

DrgnDancer (137700) | more than 2 years ago | (#37276526)

Microsoft and Intel have thrown some legendary parties at Supercomputing. In 2006, they rented an entire Mall in Tampa. Free food and drink (Pretty much anything you wanted, They wouldn't hand out 20 year old scotch I'm sure, but I specifically remember having a Bombay Sapphire martini), live music, probably more than a thousand people. It was an amazing time, but I'm told that it paled in comparison to some previous years. There's no doubt Redmond knows how to throw a party.

This is exactly the problem with the higher ups. (3)

JustAnotherIdiot (1980292) | more than 2 years ago | (#37275230)

Now Negus, who already as a new job as COO at Upstream Systems

If you get high enough up in a company, you can do whatever you want, get in whatever trouble you want, and some smaller company will always hire you.
Another recent(ish?) example I can think of is Mark Hurd from HP, Oracle immediately gave him a job.

Re:This is exactly the problem with the higher ups (1)

Robert Zenz (1680268) | more than 2 years ago | (#37275274)

That's even true for politicians.

Re:This is exactly the problem with the higher ups (2)

1s44c (552956) | more than 2 years ago | (#37275382)

If you get high enough up in a company, you can do whatever you want, get in whatever trouble you want, and some smaller company will always hire you.
Another recent(ish?) example I can think of is Mark Hurd from HP, Oracle immediately gave him a job.

The old boys club. It's killing industry worldwide.

Re:This is exactly the problem with the higher ups (4, Insightful)

wondafucka (621502) | more than 2 years ago | (#37275532)

If you get high enough up in a company, you can do whatever you want, get in whatever trouble you want, and some smaller company will always hire you. Another recent(ish?) example I can think of is Mark Hurd from HP, Oracle immediately gave him a job.

The old boys club. It's killing industry worldwide.

Nope, it's the reward for building a ladder of other people's bodies to climb your way to the top.

Not the best example (2)

Kupfernigk (1190345) | more than 2 years ago | (#37275512)

Hurd's misdemeanours seem to have been very minor. Outsiders might speculate that he trod on toes and was forced out. His successor has managed to wipe billions off the share price and royally piss off the distributors way ahead of any spin off, which might be seen as very much worse.

Now Oracle has acquired a man who knows HP and probably would like nothing better than to move into the president's office after the cheap Oracle takeover and start firing some people. It is a terrible way to run business, but it makes a lot of sense.

well damn (5, Funny)

geekoid (135745) | more than 2 years ago | (#37275236)

now I want to work at MS.

Re:well damn (1)

Xacid (560407) | more than 2 years ago | (#37275476)

Beats the hell out of the ping pong tables at google. At least MS knows to use them for beer pong.

Re:well damn (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37275536)

Yea, but it's in the UK.

OK, maybe there isn't a down-side here. Perhaps the dental plan?

Proof (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37275250)

Pictures or it didn't happen.

Re:Proof (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37275840)

Here you go! [flickr.com]

Oh, wait, you wanted pictures of Negus.

Obligatory XKCD (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37275268)

Trying for another Windows ME [xkcd.com] , I see.

Re:Obligatory XKCD (1)

Osgeld (1900440) | more than 2 years ago | (#37275308)

yea ME that wasn't a decade ago and is still funny! I wanna know where the xkcd is for MSDOS 4 that would be a fucking barrel roll

Didn't he get the memo? (1)

nani popoki (594111) | more than 2 years ago | (#37275280)

Microsoft has deprecated sex. We're supposed to use the master bait now instead.

Re:Didn't he get the memo? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37275406)

Microsoft has deprecated sex. We're supposed to use the master bait now instead.

i lol'd

Re:Didn't he get the memo? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37275544)

That would be just like Microsoft though...

Re:Didn't he get the memo? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37276454)

Or you can use the new SexEx function, or query for the ISex2 interface.

Now we also know.. (1)

rainer_d (115765) | more than 2 years ago | (#37275304)

...why MSFT is always in the top three of the "top employers" rankings. And it looks like they only ask men in these surveys.

Re:Now we also know.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37275392)

What makes you think there aren't women who enjoy sexual harassment?

Re:Now we also know.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37275576)

Because it's not sexual harassment if all parties involved welcome it. And we all know that when women make sexual advances, it is almost always welcomed by the involved parties. Geez, didn't you even listed to the training video?

What about the robot hand? (1)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | more than 2 years ago | (#37275310)

No mention of him having his hand removed and replaced with a robotic one?

If the boss is paying.... (1)

sandytaru (1158959) | more than 2 years ago | (#37275404)

I'm not aware of many IT employees that turn down free alcohol. I can count one part-time guy in my entire career of the top of my head, and he was the one who was planning to go into the seminary when he finished his undergraduate degree.

Re:If the boss is paying.... (1)

Kjella (173770) | more than 2 years ago | (#37276024)

I'm not aware of many IT employees that turn down free alcohol

In short, it's not many people. There's a few practical declines (designated driver, pregnancy), a few muslims who don't drink out of religious convictions and a few others, but the vast majority of people in all walks of like will have a few free beers or glasses of wine. Not everyone is looking to get drunk on the company's bill though, but there's usually someone who does. They don't all try to flirt, and most do it in a way that's not sexual harassment. But does it happen? Yes, probably.

The problem is that everything the company touches, that's the company's problem. If they'd all gone to a local club and she was sexually harassed there, it wouldn't normally be the club's problem. But if it's a company party, even if it's not more than providing a place for people to socialize then it almost certainly will be the company's problem. Next thing you know lawsuits are flying and everybody must stay at arm's length from members of the opposite sex (and these days, probably the same sex).

Okay, so maybe some companies have a really horrible attitude to this but I've not run into one. Most of the time the problem is with that one employee that doesn't know boundaries and probably doesn't know boundaries in other places either. But in those places you can't sue the company for millions.

Re:If the boss is paying.... (1)

billstewart (78916) | more than 2 years ago | (#37276650)

At a previous job, we had a guy in our group who didn't drink, and was always convenient as a designated driver. There are enough techies around who aren't neurotypical or otherwise don't drink because they don't like having their heads messed with, or who don't drink because they had alcoholics in their family and don't want to go there. There are also people who don't drink because they used to be alcoholics, though I ran into that more often with sales people and cops than with techies. Also, when I got older than about 30, I found that I couldn't have a beer at lunch and still get anything done in the afternoon, and I'll seldom have a second drink these days.

On the other hand, a few years ago the department I was in had a guy who made wine, and we'd occasionally have wine-tasting after work. His belief was that if you don't have at least two different wines, it's not wine-tasting, it's just drinking :-) And I was commuting by train back then, so it worked out just fine.

Were they drinking unkownlamer's beer (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37275418)

Were they?!?

No case (2)

ktappe (747125) | more than 2 years ago | (#37275436)

Negus...has struck back with a £10 million false dismissal suit alleging a culture of drunken parties and claiming that other (Male) management at Microsoft were so drunk they followed a female Microsoft UK manager into the ladies' lavatories.

So because someone else acted improperly, he thinks it was OK for him to do so too? I hope he gets laughed out of court.

Re:No case (5, Informative)

LateArthurDent (1403947) | more than 2 years ago | (#37275640)

Negus...has struck back with a £10 million false dismissal suit alleging a culture of drunken parties and claiming that other (Male) management at Microsoft were so drunk they followed a female Microsoft UK manager into the ladies' lavatories.

So because someone else acted improperly, he thinks it was OK for him to do so too? I hope he gets laughed out of court.

Did you miss the part of the article where he denied the accusations against him? Or the one where the investigation turned out no proof of the allegations?

He's not saying, "everybody else was acting improperly, so it was ok for me to do it." He's saying, "I was acting properly amidst massive impropriety. If anything, they fired me because I wasn't playing along."

Whether you believe him or not is moot. The question is, can he prove his allegations while Microsoft can't prove theirs? If that's the case, not only should this not be dismissed, but he should win.

Re:No case (2)

Rogerborg (306625) | more than 2 years ago | (#37276174)

In short: the jocks and cheerleaders picked on him for being a nerd. Wow, Microsoft. Wow.

Re:No case (1)

ImprovOmega (744717) | more than 2 years ago | (#37277374)

If he's high up enough, then what his subordinates do *is* his problem. More likely though he's just a sociopath (like many higher ups in major companies) so he's just lying through his teeth to save credibility for future victims.

This will continue until he becomes convinced of his own invincibility and cocks it up royally enough to get the attention of the police and thrown in jail.

Re:No case (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37275766)

he will probably get it being the exteremelly socialist UK -

The Office (1)

Akira Norimaki (2266222) | more than 2 years ago | (#37275480)

Where's Davide Brent? LOL.

They're actually working (5, Funny)

jcronen (325664) | more than 2 years ago | (#37275522)

They're just trying to achieve the Ballmer peak! http://xkcd.com/323/ [xkcd.com]

Re:They're actually working (1)

Chayak (925733) | more than 2 years ago | (#37277276)

I hope none of those guys are working on Windows 8. The story sounds like they have a years supply of whiskey on hand.

level 69 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37275606)

FTFA:

"Mr Negus, who claims he left a more senior position at Dell because of assurances he would eventually succeed Mr Frazer at Microsoft, was ranked as the top performing “level 69” partner at the company worldwide, posing a potential threat to his superior."

Unlikely (1)

ego centrik (1971902) | more than 2 years ago | (#37275616)

Unlikely_ look at the products of MICROsoft. No sex in it at all.

Re:Unlikely (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37276082)

Their name does not evoke an image of virility, no.

First World Problems of the corporate elite (2)

sl4shd0rk (755837) | more than 2 years ago | (#37275622)

Even though knowing this isn't an uncommon practice at the corporate level it still makes me a little sick to read about the shameless expense fund. The harassment allegations almost seem like a secondary grievance.

Now I understand why... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37275624)

...they kept telling me that Microsoft Office is such a fuc*ing piece of crap

Microsoft @ Charlotte, NC (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37275642)

This happens at the Charlotte Campus as well in the United States.
They've had one engineer use the conference room and its equipment to try and pick up an underage girl.
They have also had people screwing in the stairwells.

There are numerous stories....

I'm posting AC for a reason ;-)

Charlotte Campus in the U.S. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37275756)

Microsoft's Campus in Charlotte has had many issues in the past.
Sexual harassment claims like crazy such as this one.

They've caught people having sex in the stairwell.
Female employees harasses on numerous occasions only for the reports to be suppressed because of superiors.

One engineer was trying to lure underage girls using the teleconference room.

I won't even talk about the pill popping SQL Team :-O

The cluster team likes uppers... (meth heads)

The list goes on and on... and on some more.

party with taxpayers money (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37275904)

This kind of behaviour is typical in non competitive organizations which live on taxpayers money.

Re:party with taxpayers money (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37276412)

WTF?

How is this news? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37276010)

Of course the Negus is going to get drunk and harass females.

The more important question is, what are hyoo-mahn females doing with clothes on in the first place?

Someone ought to be thrown off the Tower of Commerce for this.

Re:How is this news? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37276332)

Thank you for not disappointing me on my search through the thread for an oblig. Ferengi reference.

Sounds to me like a disgruntled ex-employee... (1)

idbeholda (2405958) | more than 2 years ago | (#37276018)

I'm willing to bet the real reason he's filing the suit is because he was rejected by Debra. Like a baus.

MS and the Catholic church. (1)

Noughmad (1044096) | more than 2 years ago | (#37276316)

They are becoming more and more alike. It seems the GNU guys were right all along. Microsoft Church [gnu.org]

Microsoft UK the new Renholm Industries? (1)

erroneus (253617) | more than 2 years ago | (#37276336)

http://www.reynholm.co.uk/ [reynholm.co.uk]

Maybe some of you are not familiar with this iconic corporation, but it is well known to have such problems in its offices.

Re:Microsoft UK the new Renholm Industries? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37276776)

Lol,

Didn't know they had a site. I just booked some leave on their intranet :)

Longing for the old days (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37276398)

If women would stay at home making babies, cleaning house, and cooking dinner the way God intended, this problem of "sexual harassment" in the workplace wouldn't be a problem. Women don't belong in the workplace. It's a scourge.

Re:Longing for the old days (1)

Osgeld (1900440) | more than 2 years ago | (#37276916)

so you liked it better when you could only be sexually harassed by men in the workplace.

good to know

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