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Ask Slashdot: Can You Identify This UAV?

timothy posted more than 3 years ago | from the it's-from-the-fuuuuuture dept.

Robotics 232

garymortimer writes "It's not as sexy as the Beast of Kandahar RQ 170 Sentinel, or as well known as a Predator. But we think the bird-shaped drone that crashed in Pakistan last week might be a U.S. special forces tool. At first it was thought to be a homemade job, but packs with FMC (which means 'Fully Mission Capable') written on them, and an American date style as well, really points to something else. sUAS News is not AvWeek or Flight International so getting scoops is tricky whilst holding down a day job. Our exclusive pictures of the damaged C130 that struck an RQ170 was pretty good for us. We would love to identify this drone. Maybe it is just a homebrew job, maybe it's not. It's not a Festo Smartbird, though, the most popular choice of pundits."

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Its a... (5, Funny)

TWX (665546) | more than 3 years ago | (#37280702)

This is an espresso machine. No, no wait. It's a snow cone maker...

Re:Its a... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37280720)

Is it a water heater?

Re:Its a... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37280826)

This is a Soviet MIRV-Six, from an SS-22N launch vehicle. The warhead contains 14.5 kilos of enriched uranium, with a plutonium trigger. The nominal yield is 10 kilotons.

I love that movie.

Re:Its a... (4, Funny)

Anrego (830717) | more than 3 years ago | (#37280930)

I love that movie.. but damn... If you quoted that from memory, please help yourself to a free internet on the way out the door!

Re:Its a... (3, Funny)

smitty97 (995791) | more than 3 years ago | (#37281254)

Do you know what those things can do? Suck the paint off your house and give your family a permanent orange afro.

wait, wrong movie...

Re:Its a... (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37280734)

Obviously it's a swamp-gas weather balloon manufactured by ACME.

Re:Its a... (3, Informative)

cobrausn (1915176) | more than 3 years ago | (#37280778)

To the guy/gal that modded this Troll, it's a quote from True Lies. Cut TWX a break.

Re:Its a... (4, Funny)

gnapster (1401889) | more than 3 years ago | (#37280902)

Heck, I thought it was hilarious without knowing it was a film reference.

Re:Its a... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37281880)

It Is Balloon! old TV ref.

Re:Its a... (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37281572)

You're a troll! I'm a troll! The whole forum is a troll!

Re:Its a... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37281882)

To the guy/gal that modded this Troll, it's a quote from True Lies. Cut TWX a break.

They'd really have egg on their faces if it turned out to be an Espresso machine.

Re:Its a... (2)

JamesP (688957) | more than 3 years ago | (#37280900)

No, it's swamp gas, or a weather balloon.

Or maybe a common brushtail opossum

Re:Its a... (1)

Urza9814 (883915) | more than 3 years ago | (#37281886)

In related news, the US government's recently released report has proven that the mysterious UAV is, in fact, merely swamp gas.

Yes I can (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37280704)

I am an alleged expert in UAVs and UAV identification.

This is a first post.

really? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37280750)

it was always good reading this website. So sad it's going to be shut down for this post:(

Re:really? (1)

ElectricTurtle (1171201) | more than 3 years ago | (#37281604)

This isn't China... yet.

There was a TED talk about robot birds that size (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37280756)

http://www.ted.com/talks/a_robot_that_flies_like_a_bird.html

Re:There was a TED talk about robot birds that siz (1)

SomePgmr (2021234) | more than 3 years ago | (#37280808)

I thought of this first too, though by the looks of it, it'd have to have gone through about a billion revs to get to this guy if its flight characteristics were the same.

I'd guess it's just a wing-like profile... it looks like a fixed shape. Though I loved the video on the original site... who decided to co-opt the original Airwolf theme music for their report.

Re:There was a TED talk about robot birds that siz (2)

tronicum (617382) | more than 3 years ago | (#37281144)

Yes. the TED Video is a demonstration of the FESTO Smartbird [festo.com] , see also Youtube Video [youtube.com] . This Video is a stupid mash-up. They seem to have found an small video drone, bird shaped, with fixed wings. Any of intelligence agency or a good RC plane builder can build those. But Smartbid is entirely different. As you can see in the above TED Video it has many organic build internal conjunction. The above shown picture and open body is much simpler. So maybe the found a RC Plane that looks like a bird. Maybe it was even used by a foreign power in an Arabic country. But that video does not give you any clues beside some shaky videos and pictures....

Re:There was a TED talk about robot birds that siz (3, Informative)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 3 years ago | (#37281364)

Interestingly featured in this Pakastani military [defence.pk] website.

Took about 45 seconds to find on Google. Most of the time was spent opening the beer can.

Bah! old news (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37280758)

No, It's a weather balloon !

pshaw! (1)

Thud457 (234763) | more than 3 years ago | (#37280886)

It's obviously a pelican illuminated by the reflected glow of swamp gas.

Re:pshaw! (2)

schmidt349 (690948) | more than 3 years ago | (#37281122)

Don't be ridiculous. What you have there is the Bolivian Navy on maneuvers in the South Pacific.

Shopped (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 3 years ago | (#37280774)

and I've seen a lot of shops~

Seriously, it looks like the UAV the send out with recon groups.

FMC? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37280782)

You sure that's not Flight Management Computer?

Re:FMC? (1)

amicusNYCL (1538833) | more than 3 years ago | (#37281006)

Military ineptness jokes aside, I'm pretty sure they don't go around labeling and dating parts of their vehicles with masking tape.

Re:FMC? (2, Interesting)

couchslug (175151) | more than 3 years ago | (#37281130)

Grease pencil on weapons placards was common (the Navy may still use it).

When we deployed to Al Dhafra, grease pencils were even used for nose art:

http://www.f-16.net/interviews_article33.html [f-16.net]

Note the old-school white placard on this O-2:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/54/432712455_fda36d0f7d.jpg [flickr.com]

Tape is available and produces the required contrast. There is no functional reason not to use tape and marker.

Re:FMC? (1)

amicusNYCL (1538833) | more than 3 years ago | (#37281286)

I understand nose art, and labeling an aircraft to described what it's armed with, but would you stick a piece of masking tape on a missile and write "missile" on it?

Re:FMC? (3, Informative)

C0R1D4N (970153) | more than 3 years ago | (#37281636)

Claymores have "Face Toward Enemy" written on them. Nothing would surprise me.

Re:FMC? (1)

Ambvai (1106941) | more than 3 years ago | (#37281796)

Seriously? I came across that in manga and thought it was a silly joke.

Re:FMC? (1)

networkBoy (774728) | more than 3 years ago | (#37281900)

Sadly, it is true...

Re:FMC? (2)

couchslug (175151) | more than 3 years ago | (#37281032)

FMC is the usual term for Fully Mission Capable, and while I've never seen masking tape used to mark aircraft it is light enough to provide a good background for magic marker. (When marking light-colored surfaces, grease pencil was common in the Air Force years ago.)

There is obviously no place for a "781" forms binder in such a small machine. :)

Re:FMC? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37281336)

flight management computer in this case.

test (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37280790)

****

Wait! I know it! (1)

R3d M3rcury (871886) | more than 3 years ago | (#37280818)

It's a hs1fa@*ldk NO CARRIER

The US has lost enough tech to know (1)

Rooked_One (591287) | more than 3 years ago | (#37280824)

to install self destruct devices into "secret" new tech.

Re:The US has lost enough tech to know (1)

chispito (1870390) | more than 3 years ago | (#37280838)

It's just an RC airplane painted vaguely like a seagull. I don't see what the big deal is.

Re:The US has lost enough tech to know (4, Informative)

mapsjanhere (1130359) | more than 3 years ago | (#37281100)

It's a badly put together Rumpler Taube model, you can even see the wooden interior in one of the pictures.

Re:The US has lost enough tech to know (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37281264)

It's a badly put together Rumpler Taube model, you can even see the wooden interior in one of the pictures.

I agree with this guy. Looks like a crude Taube 90

Re:The US has lost enough tech to know (1)

Nimey (114278) | more than 3 years ago | (#37281872)

I don't think so. The tailplane looks a lot like a Taube, but the wing shape is wrong.

Re:The US has lost enough tech to know (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37280854)

to install self destruct devices into "secret" new tech.

And the people in the field just LOVE prepping stuff with active self-destruct mechanisms, don't they?

There is no problem in the world that can't be solved by either enough duct tape or a big enough hammer.

Re:The US has lost enough tech to know (1)

failedlogic (627314) | more than 3 years ago | (#37280978)

Except then someone gets killed when it blows up. Wether or not they are military / intelligence or public, the country owning the device is in a heap of bad PR and diplomatic pressure.

Not saying right or wrong, the information or the tech might very well be life/death to protect .... just that you can NEVER win.

Re:The US has lost enough tech to know (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 3 years ago | (#37281198)

A small price to pay to keep the top secret 'RC plane' tech from landing in the hands of the terrorist! What would happen if the started flying these into building~

Re:The US has lost enough tech to know (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37281526)

With luck, it could land into the office of someone you really don't like. Otherwise, it could make for an eventful work day, or if you have a very bad luck, mild injury. You can't really put enough explosives on a RC plane that is small enough not to show on radar.

Re:The US has lost enough tech to know (5, Interesting)

wierd_w (1375923) | more than 3 years ago | (#37281072)

This does not look like a top secret device. No, really, it doesn't.

It looks like a low cost "expendable" craft intended to fly over restricted air spaces.

I say that because the wing and airframe profile appear to have been modeled on the "gliding" look and behavior of a large goose. It would be exremely wasteful of military ordinance to shoot down everything that looks like a goose 100ft in the air that flies over a restricted area.

If I were to design such a craft, it would 1) be very slow and as near to silent as possible. 2) contain absolutely no stealth technologies that might give enemy engineers clues about our radar abilities, and 3) implement an FPGA based one time pad data encryption system to transmit recon data to the nearby recon team.

Ths way if the craft crashes, gets shot down, or captured the expense of replacement is 1) very low due to nearly 100% plastic construction and cheap electronics. 2) data forensically uninteresting from either an engineering pov or from a data espianage point of view. 3) cannot be used to break mission critical data encryption technologies, due to 1:1 one time pad pairings, with quite possibly cheap commercial encryption methods. (256AES, etc.) By the time it is recovered and studied, that pad is black listed as belonging to an mia drone.

This thing has "field recon" practically painted all over it. Lightweight plastic airframe, electronic only propulsion, small battery... all add up to being a disposable device with very short range, low airspeed, and short active runtimes.

Whoever deployed this device was close by. (Unlike a predator which uses petrolium fuel and has a rigid metal airframe that can handle a reasonably fast cruise speed and can perform long mission flighttime, this device has none of those features, and as such cannot realistically be launched from miles away like a predator can.) This looks like it could well be a "backpack" type kit, that folds up for storage and portability. (That's how I would commision such a device anyway.)

All that said, this kind of setup would lend itself well to commercial mass production, since nearly the entire airframe could be injection molded on the cheap. For similar reasons the design would lend itself well to hobby enthusiasts with access to fab labs. Having access to aviation grade CAD equipment, I would *LOVE* to get some detailed photos of every inch of the airframe (with a mm scale metric ruler in the shots) and of the internal cavities.

I really would like to make some community models of this vehicle.

Re:The US has lost enough tech to know (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37281304)

I agree, it looks like a RC plane, not a UAV of any sort.

It's possible that thing might be somewhat more sophisticated than it looks (quick, send it to ifixit for a teardown!) but offhand it looks like any other RC plane that CFIT.

Re:The US has lost enough tech to know (3, Informative)

wierd_w (1375923) | more than 3 years ago | (#37281588)

I watched the video, which has additional views of the interior.

The part mark plate on the component marked "fmc" and the few metal components of the fuselage of the airframe look suspiciously like lockheed martin's work.

(Disclaimer: I work in aerospace. This looks like their engineering in the metal bulkhead design. If not them, a subsidiary. Do not know the model. The part mark placcard stinks of LM. BOEING uses inkjet partmarking, as did raytheon aero before hawker beech bought them.)

Re:The US has lost enough tech to know (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37281516)

FTFY: ...aviation grade CAM equipment.... Manufacturing, not Drafting

Re:The US has lost enough tech to know (1)

fotbr (855184) | more than 3 years ago | (#37281616)

Guy's wanting photos with a mm ruler in them for scale reference....I suspect he means CAD like he said, because he wants to make drawings.

Re:The US has lost enough tech to know (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37281874)

cannot be used to break mission critical data encryption technologies, due to 1:1 one time pad pairings, with quite possibly cheap commercial encryption methods. (256AES, etc.)

Not entirely sure what you mean by that (OTP and AES?), but if the drone was transmitting something sensitive using a one time pad and the encrypted transmission was recorded by the enemy, they can decrypt it later with the one time pad aboard your drone once it has crashed.

Re:The US has lost enough tech to know (1)

wierd_w (1375923) | more than 3 years ago | (#37281920)

Aes needs a keypair, iirc. The otp satisfies one of these keys, is specific for that mission and that data stream. (This opposed to reusing keys.)

For weight, and intelligence reasons the device should not have any more onboard storage than a few mb of ram for the flight computer and for the camera to store the image data prior to encryption and broadcast, and some flight control software in nand. This won't need to do complicated vector math like a stealth fighter, so a sophisticated flight computer would be unnecessary.

The design implies short range base stations which should be in direct transmission range. This means the feed should be live to avoid exactly the same problem you just described. (They capture the drone and playback what it was lookinng at. No storage, no local playback. Only a otp, for that one drone. The most they could glean is the encrypt type and the discriminator freq used for data. True random otps would make it computationally unsensible to use captured pads for forensic intelligence purposes.)

It looks like any of the oodles of R/C planes ... (3, Insightful)

dougmc (70836) | more than 3 years ago | (#37280844)

To my (somewhat) trained eye, this looks like any other R/C airplane run by amateurs who fly them strictly within line of sight (though many have been putting FPV equipment so they can fly them with a first person view, often a few miles away.)

From time to time our R/C planes do malfunction and will fly off out of our control, or something will go wrong and they'll crash and we won't be able to find and recover them. Perhaps it's just some hobbyist's plane that got away from him? It certainly looks like something a hobbyist made rather than an expensive commercial/military model.

Though I guess this does bode poorly for the hobby -- ham radio operators don't bring their radios with them when they go to many countries because people often equate radios with spies ... I guess the next step is to equate people flying R/C planes with spies?

Re:It looks like any of the oodles of R/C planes . (2)

mbone (558574) | more than 3 years ago | (#37281204)

You don't generally get too many hobbyists in war zones.

Re:It looks like any of the oodles of R/C planes . (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37281290)

If Gary Faulkner in town?

Re:It looks like any of the oodles of R/C planes . (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37281878)

You don't generally get too many hobbyists in war zones.

That sounds like crazy talk to me. Of course you get hobbyists in war zones - they're called the "inhabitants" of the newly-created "war zone". Right before it was a "war zone" is was a "place to live" where people probably did have hobbies.

Re:It looks like any of the oodles of R/C planes . (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37281924)

In Pakistan, hobbies include rape, female genital mutilation, sex with boys, and beating women.

Airwolf! and dirty video (2)

Foo2rama (755806) | more than 3 years ago | (#37280874)

I think Bellisario should sue... They totally ripped off the Airwolf intro music.


On a side note I love how they took the festo smart bird video and dirtied it up to look military lol...

http://www.festo.com/cms/en_corp/11369_11439.htm#id_11439 [festo.com]

I can identify that UAV for you ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37280876)

... but then I'd have to kill you!

It's a Streetlight. (0)

captjc (453680) | more than 3 years ago | (#37280882)

Seriously, It's a Streetlight [fark.com]

I Want To Believe

One word, Roswell! (1)

rstanley (758673) | more than 3 years ago | (#37280884)

Obviously is is part of an alien spaceship! Where are the remains of the pilots??? ;^)

When will the Air Force show us samples of a weather balloon??? ;^)

Yes (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37280906)

I could tell you. But then I would have to kill you.

The Good Guys Always Win - Even in the 80s (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37280908)

Don't know what the bird-thing is, but the background music to the (pakistani?) news video is definitely from the 1980s tv show Airwolf. lol.

http://www.kalam.tv/ur/video/87696/index.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr_CJL1YQRc

I know what that UAV is, or rather who made it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37280960)

http://www.ted.com/talks/a_robot_that_flies_like_a_bird.html

Have a look at that one

Ingenuous! (2)

aglider (2435074) | more than 3 years ago | (#37280972)

Do you really think that anyone who could identify that UAV, provided that it's a UAV, would respond to your question?
Let's reason.
Those who really can do it would be among:
- people from the company who built it
- people from the DoD who required/bought it
- people from the army/company who operated it
- spies from a dozen of countries.
Now check one by one these categories. None will answer here as a comment. And not even as a private message, as Slashdot has none and because online stuff is traceable.
I would also exclude the email (gary@yyyyyyyyyy) and the phone (0778 6666666) for the same reason.
I would expect a few fake money request into your post box in the Somerset.

Alien Birds (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37280974)

I for one would like to welcome our Alien Bird Overlords.

It might be an American style date (1)

chemosh6969 (632048) | more than 3 years ago | (#37281000)

...whatever that means but it's not a military style date.

Re:It might be an American style date (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37281172)

As opposed to some European dates, where the date comes before the month in dd/mm/yy format.

Re:It might be an American style date (1)

black3d (1648913) | more than 3 years ago | (#37281292)

Where "some European" = "Almost every other country in the world." :)

Re:It might be an American style date (1)

mug funky (910186) | more than 3 years ago | (#37281418)

i tend to use yyyy-mm-dd for easier sorting.

Re:It might be an American style date (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37281746)

That's ISO-8601 standard date format. The choice of sensible people for decades now.

I use it not just because it sorts properly; it is clearly neither the ambiguous European or American way, so there's no doubt what it means.

For similar reasons I write the digit "7" the European way (with a stroke) but the digit "1" the American way (vertical line).

Re:It might be an American style date (1)

black3d (1648913) | more than 3 years ago | (#37281782)

Likewise, I use YYYYMMDD for all files/folders/anything where I can enter a date, for precisely the sorting reason. :)

Re:It might be an American style date (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37281398)

...whatever that means

I assume this simply means that the dates were formatted month/day/year.

Most likely (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37281034)

Non military. NSA, CIA or some other TLA group.
they're just keeping an eye on things with those billions we give them every year..

Non military non 'official' us goverment drone. Nothing to see here citizen. move along before we shoot you.

Re:Most likely (1)

cavreader (1903280) | more than 3 years ago | (#37281252)

These days the CIA is more "military" than the real military. They are the ones orchestrating the drone missions in that area.

Who's That Pokemon? (1)

kakyoin01 (2040114) | more than 3 years ago | (#37281126)

It's Skarmory. *cerealguy.jpg*

Good luck (2)

DarkOx (621550) | more than 3 years ago | (#37281132)

In the world of unacknowledged weapons and surveillance systems pretty much anything could be anything. Just because someone slapped some US military lingo and American formatted dates does not mean anything. Maybe it was built by someone who had been in the States and thought nothing of it but is not connected with the US officially, maybe someone else made it and used surplus American components, maybe someone wanted to try and embarrass the US by making it look American, maybe someone else is spying and does not want it know so just made the thing to look American encase it was captured.

Just off the top of my head it could be:
ISI
CIA
Israel
Some engineering students who have been recruited by extremists
A hobbyist

Whoops. (1)

L1B3R4710N (2081304) | more than 3 years ago | (#37281134)

Time to don the tin hats, people.

It's the next Apple product (5, Funny)

Megahard (1053072) | more than 3 years ago | (#37281138)

Somebody lost it in a bar.

Re:It's the next Apple product (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37281710)

You know it's one hell of a night when you wake up in Pakistan...

One thing's for sure (1)

GodfatherofSoul (174979) | more than 3 years ago | (#37281162)

Whoever built it was intent on convincing people on the ground that it's nothing more than a vulture circling overhead for the past 3 days.

Re:One thing's for sure (1)

Thing 1 (178996) | more than 3 years ago | (#37281902)

Yeah, reminds me of that scene from Rango where the bats grouped together and emulated a hawk to scare Rattlesnake Jake. Briefly. :)

Bird UAV (3, Interesting)

EEPROMS (889169) | more than 3 years ago | (#37281234)

Re:Bird UAV (1)

Frederic54 (3788) | more than 3 years ago | (#37281424)

Not bad, you may have win a cookie!

Re:Bird UAV (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37281476)

yup.
http://www.theissaviation.com/AFRL%20Bird.html

have you considered a rc hobby kit? (1)

blackcoot (124938) | more than 3 years ago | (#37281300)

they are surprisingly inexpensive ($500 plus some labor w/ analog video downlink). they are also likely to have been repaired quite frequently (that is if you're lucky and didn't leave a pile of kindle your last encounter with gravity).

on an unrelated note, it's fun to watch confirmation bias in the wild.

its a theiss bird. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37281368)

http://www.theissaviation.com/AOL.html
we have a bunch of these.

clearly (1)

roman_mir (125474) | more than 3 years ago | (#37281404)

Clearly it's a weather balloon. [wordpress.com]

Backpack recon drone (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37281414)

This is a small form factor compact local-recon drone deployable in the field from a mobile infantry company probably for the purpose of $#&ff*@!!Ycarrier lost

It's a banana (2)

rlp (11898) | more than 3 years ago | (#37281452)

or a red and blue striped golfing umbrella.

Re:It's a banana (1)

wierd_w (1375923) | more than 3 years ago | (#37281838)

No, its a small, off-duty chzecloslovakian traffic warden.

Thats not a UAV (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37281466)

Its a BAV

It's Superman! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37281614)

sUAS News: Is it a bird?
The internet: No.
sUAS News: Is it an airplane?
The internet: Clearly not.
sUAS News: It is Superman!
The internet: Obviously.

obvious (1)

Vokoder (2282360) | more than 3 years ago | (#37281682)

clearly the next stage in evolution of cylon birds

It's Mine! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37281700)

There it is! I've been looking all over for it! Thanks. I'll be right over to pick it up.

Who gives a fuck? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37281706)

As long as it's helping to kill those faggot Mooslims I don't give a fuck who made it.
 
FUCK MOOHAMMAD!!! FUCK ALLAH!!!! FUCK ISLAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tally Hawk (2)

hort_wort (1401963) | more than 3 years ago | (#37281726)

This is clearly a marketing ruse to encourage us to buy SilverHawks on DVD, which has a cyber-bird named Tally Hawk.
Hmmmm it appears to only be $10 now....

I know what it is. (1)

McDrewbie (530348) | more than 3 years ago | (#37281734)

I think it is that paper airplane I threw over the cube wall.

the background track (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37281824)

did anyone notice the background track? was that the theme song to Airwolf?

Possible Identity of the Drone (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37281856)

This website: http://defensetech.org/2011/08/29/mystery-drone-crash-in-pakistan/#more-14195

Notes that this Drone is likely a modified Lockheed Martin Desert Hawk. From the looks of it, it very well could be.

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