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Google Patents Glove For "Seeing With Your Hand"

samzenpus posted more than 2 years ago | from the touching-is-believing dept.

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theodp writes "Is Google Couch Search about to go Beta? GeekWire reports that Google co-founder Sergey Brin is among the inventors listed on a patent issued to the search giant this week for 'Seeing With Your Hand', using a glove with sensors for viewing a room or controlling a computer with gestures. From the patent: 'When a small object is lost, for example, underneath a couch, humans naturally put their hands under the couch to locate the lost object by touch. While gathering information by touch is in some cases an acceptable substitute for seeing, in many situations it may be desirable to 'see' the inaccessible environment to better gather information.'"

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No one is going to wear a glove to control a PC (3, Informative)

assemblerex (1275164) | more than 2 years ago | (#37302016)

Imagine people waving their single gloved hand, like so many Michael Jacksons.

This is about patenting and limiting gestural control competition.

Re:No one is going to wear a glove to control a PC (3, Funny)

game kid (805301) | more than 2 years ago | (#37302066)

Imagine people waving their single gloved hand, like so many Michael Jacksons.

Between that and the inevitable Power Glove comparisons, you could say that...it's so bad.

Re:No one is going to wear a glove to control a PC (1)

game kid (805301) | more than 2 years ago | (#37302074)

(OK, actually looking at the patent's pic now, it's not so inevitable. Less massive-looking [google.com] , for one. But still. :) )

Re:No one is going to wear a glove to control a PC (1)

DJRumpy (1345787) | more than 2 years ago | (#37302668)

Wouldn't prior art on this be the control interface in Minority Report? They used all natural gestures to navigate, discard, collect, etc.

Re:No one is going to wear a glove to control a PC (3, Informative)

zill (1690130) | more than 2 years ago | (#37303118)

This patents is for the algorithm and the hardware that actually makes it possible. Minority Report contained neither of those things.

Re:No one is going to wear a glove to control a PC (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37308586)

This patents is for the algorithm and the hardware that actually makes it possible. Minority Report contained neither of those things.

The technology depicted in Minority Report is very real. It was designed and developed by MIT's John Underkoffler and is called G-Speak. See MIT article [mit.edu] , videos
here [singularityhub.com] and here [weareorganizedchaos.com] .

Re:No one is going to wear a glove to control a PC (1)

hedwards (940851) | more than 2 years ago | (#37302388)

The irony there is that the Power Glove was indeed, bad, so bad that it was more or less a flop.

Re:No one is going to wear a glove to control a PC (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37302460)

The irony there is that the Power Glove was indeed, bad, so bad that it was more or less a flop.

But was it really, *really* bad?

Re:No one is going to wear a glove to control a PC (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37302160)

i don't understand that guy. was he a nigger or not? even in 80s he had a light shit tone to his skin. not like most knee grows at all.

Re:No one is going to wear a glove to control a PC (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37303078)

Google has never used a patent offensively, and has very publicly complained about the broken patent system. This, like their other recent patent moves, is defensive.

Didn't Someone Already Make This? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37307646)

What about the "Wired Glove" that has been around forever? How can they patent this now?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wired_glove

Prior Art (2)

Netshroud (1856624) | more than 2 years ago | (#37302082)

Anyone else read Emily Eyefinger [duncanball.com.au] as a kid??

Re:Prior Art (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37302262)

Yes, good book, but completely irrelevant.

Early XXth century prior art (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37303250)

"Traité sur la vision dermo-optique", Jules Romain, 1920s, France (english translation : Treatise on dermo-optical sight).

Used to be pinpointed in para-psychology labs; sad it never made it mainstream for the blind people (it's a touch-related color distinction, while Google's thing a remote vision).

For the stupid biology folks who'll say 'can not exist, since I don't know of its possible mechanism', one can scream 'consciousness' at them, whose basis they still can not explain.

If you pretend to be a scientist, please first acknowledge that whichever field you may think about is generally not a closed book, but an ongoing endeavour.

Please don't be evil (2)

ehud42 (314607) | more than 2 years ago | (#37302104)

Sparkfun just posted an article about a clever device for visually impaired people to use to navigate with their hand [sparkfun.com] . Google better leave them alone!

Re:Please don't be evil (1)

Osgeld (1900440) | more than 2 years ago | (#37302364)

sparkfun did not invent that

"This project, by Steve Hoefer of Grathio Labs,"

so why would google go after them for publishing an article that has appeared on a few websites already just to drag ass to sparkfun weeks later? And would we really be that worse off without them anyway. All they do is gouge noobies and slap a copyright on preexisting designs, often direct from the datasheet.

Re:Please don't be evil (2)

Riceballsan (816702) | more than 2 years ago | (#37303758)

Well lets list all of the companies google has sued for patent infringement in the past. Pretty much all I've ever seen google sue is patent trolls.

Great, just great! (2)

reboot246 (623534) | more than 2 years ago | (#37302146)

Now the TSA can see your naughty bits when they stick their grubby little hands down your pants.

Re:Great, just great! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37302194)

They put their hands *down your pants?*

Er, they are not meant to do that, you do know this don't you?

Are you a prettyboy?

Re:Great, just great! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37302556)

Or, if you're playing pocket pool; You'll go blind.

Re:Great, just great! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37302654)

So that's what the nuns meant?!?

Google Patents Glove For (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37302150)

Google Patents Glove For "Sleeping With Your Friend"

what I REALLY would like to see with my hands (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37302180)

I really would like to see Miss February with my hands...

Re:what I REALLY would like to see with my hands (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37302404)

I hang out with Miss Michigan daily. From what I hear though, she gets around.

Looks Familliar (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37302226)

Nintendo should sue.

Already described before that (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37302242)

In the tech-thriller Daemon by Daniel Suarez (or it's second chapter, Freedom), there is a suit which gives the user feedback to his/her skin depending on what it "sees". Kind of the same thing I suppsoe.

Patent This Gesture (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37302244)

I'm sure one of the typical Slashdot readers has just submitted a patent application for a gesture where one surrounds a round object with the forefinger and thumb touching while oscillating the hand vertically.

Re:Patent This Gesture (1)

Snarky McButtface (1542357) | more than 2 years ago | (#37302308)

I would but I discovered this gesture 25 years ago. If some does file a patent for this gesture, I have proof of prior art.

Re:Patent This Gesture (1)

mwvdlee (775178) | more than 2 years ago | (#37302446)

I would but I discovered this gesture 25 years ago. If some does file a patent for this gesture, I have proof of prior art.

Really? You have proof of that? I'm (morbidly) curious... what does this proof consist of?

8) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37302370)

http://images.usatoday.com/life/_photos/2007/01/03/pans-labyrinth-topper.jpg

New Streetview (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37302398)

Lets all hope they don't use the imagery to make maps of houses. what does my gps say about the fastest route to my beer? has it been updated for the kid's mess in the living room?

Absurd (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37302440)

Or they can just buy any of the dozens of "tiny cameras on a stalk with screen" that are out there. Oh but it's a Google guy patenting the obvious? It's GENIUS I tell you! NO ONE has ever thought of this! Shower the man with gold and diamonds so he can start a private rocket roller coaster! Am I doing it right?

We Already Have Sensors On Our Fingertips (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37302484)

Don't we all already have sensors on our fingertips? Why is this glove an improvement? ;-) ITWARZ

Prior art (1)

50000BTU_barbecue (588132) | more than 2 years ago | (#37302490)

Everything technological can be traced back to the 1960s*, the greatest period in history. There were no limits, everything was possible.

It's called the Optacon. [wikipedia.org]

Some video. [youtube.com]

*Go ahead, try me. :)

Re:Prior art (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37302882)

There is nothing new under the sun. Including this comment:

What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun.

-- Ecclesiastes 1:9

There's an appropriately older quote by Buddha, but I can't find it as quickly.

(Ideas weren't new in the 60s either.)

Wrong date (1)

gmuslera (3436) | more than 2 years ago | (#37302496)

Looks like the typical April 1st google joke. In fact, if is true, could be pushed to 11 to make the next year's one.

idle hands (1)

PopeRatzo (965947) | more than 2 years ago | (#37302720)

Why do I get the feeling that one way or another, the real purpose of this technology will involve putting the gloved hand down one's pants?

Re:idle hands (1)

Taty'sEyes (2373326) | more than 2 years ago | (#37303536)

Why do I get the feeling that one way or another, the real purpose of this technology will involve putting the gloved hand down one's pants?

I had a nearly similar thought, difference being changing the word "one's" to "another's".

Hands on control (1)

jovius (974690) | more than 2 years ago | (#37303108)

Once upon a time I took apart a Tac-2 [wikipedia.org] and wired it into a pair of wool gloves, The joystick didn't have microswitches but contacts, so the functionality was easy to modify. The contacts were strategically placed on fingertips of the both hands. The gloves worked quite well actually and felt intuitive.

Commuting (1)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 2 years ago | (#37303222)

I'd like to try this during my morning commute. My usual "traffic gestures" would be more than just gestures this time. Cut me off, and you'll go up a few octaves!

Prior Art (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37303280)

Doesn't Pan's Labyrinth have prior art on this? http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-vf0_cTLKKVI/TkmV-NMr-QI/AAAAAAAAA_w/qEgNL4zha_w/s1600/pans_labyrinth_05_large.jpg

Combine it with speech recognition ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37304642)

and you have Speak to The Hand (tm)

Pan's Labyrinth (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37306072)

A glove? pfft... Guillermo Del Toro's Pale Man clearly has a far superior implementation of this technology...

Counter terrorism (1)

Custard Horse (1527495) | more than 2 years ago | (#37307094)

It will look less impressive when a member of SWAT gets his hand stuck under a door immediatley before setting off a breaching charge. Perhaps the regular spy cam would suffice after all?

I read it as 'sleeping' (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37307616)

Pretty sure that's considered prior art unless they've come up with a new technique.

Prior Art? (1)

iinventstuff (1888700) | more than 2 years ago | (#37309102)

In 1995, I built systems for the USAF / AFRL based on data gloves and Polhemus trackers and I was not the 1st. We used this for 3D environment interactions and had many types of gesture recognition. Reading Google's patent claims, Google positioned the sensor on the finger tip (ours was on the back of the hand) and then applied all prior art to that minor and obvious 'novelty'. This is a minor departure from prior art, but is inline with how the US patent system works: you get a patent in exchange for full disclosure, then others get the opportunity to improve upon your invention and then patent their improvements. As a technologist, I look at this as a cheap copy, but from a patent perspective, they took prior art and built in a new way. If this spawns innovation, then cool, and if not, then it doesn't matter. I predict that, if successful, Google will see a few patent challenges.

great potential (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37382730)

Wow, I kind of wish I were one of the listed inventors on this patent [generalpatent.com] . Although it may seem a bit goofy as presented, I think this technology has the potential for many significant and groundbreaking uses.

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