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Wicked Lasers Introduces Handheld One-Watt Green Laser

timothy posted more than 3 years ago | from the I-want-a-dozen-mounted-on-my-car dept.

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First time accepted submitter (and Slashdot coder) cogent writes "Wicked Lasers, famous for last year's 1000mW handheld blue laser, and infamous for its handling of six-month-long backorders, is now selling a green version. There are three power levels, each priced at $1/mW (300mW, 500mW, 1000mW). Since the eye is far more sensitive to green than to blue, this is pretty much the state of the art in putting-dots-on-stuff technology. Wicked Lasers sent out an email promising to handle backorders much better this time." Adds reader whitedsepdivine: "There is currently no disclaimer that this is not a lightsaber on their site, so we can only assume that this version is."

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I see your schwartz is as big as mine. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37317870)

I see your schwartz is as big as mine.

Re:I see your schwartz is as big as mine. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37317924)

Sorry bro, mine is way bigger.

Re:I see your schwartz is as big as mine. (1)

Mike Hock (249988) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318456)

your mom does not agree :|

Re:I see your schwartz is as big as mine. (1)

drwho (4190) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318740)

You spelled it wrong, it is 'Schwanz'

Re:I see your schwartz is as big as mine. (1)

Reverand Dave (1959652) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318922)

I see you've never seen spaceballs...

We will be right back (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37317894)

We will be right back, after this commercial for a $1000 laser submission from one of our sponsors

Re:We will be right back (1)

cayenne8 (626475) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318748)

Hmm...the green ones are about $1K...the blue one, same power...bargain for $300.

Aside from color...they'll both do the same amount of damage, right?

Is it powerful enough? (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#37317916)

Do these things come with a stun setting?

Re:Is it powerful enough? (1)

xxxJonBoyxxx (565205) | more than 3 years ago | (#37317974)

Do these things come with a stun setting?

Only if you're a pilot.

Re:Is it powerful enough? (1)

davester666 (731373) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318114)

Yes. All pilots of a predisposition to stare into the light...

Might add a warning... (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37317944)

Might add a warning that at 1W (1000mW) your eye is 'sensitive' to just about anything in terms of damage from them, whatever color.
Be sure you get good laser protective glasses with one of these things, and whatever you do *do not* aim it or reflect it into anyone's (or any animal's) eyes... its not a "toy".

Re:Might add a warning... (4, Informative)

n5vb (587569) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318450)

I would add avoiding *scattered* light to the list of warnings. (It has a BRH Class 4 warning label, which does include that wording.) A bit safer perhaps than other wavelengths because your eye responds with very high sensitivity to 532nm green (so you're not in *quite* as much danger as you would be from short-wavelength blue or, far worse, UV), but you definitely want to be wearing 532nm notch filter glasses with side shields as even looking at the beam spot on a white (and non-specularly-reflecting) surface could give cause fairly rapid eye damage. (And you can't control who's staring at the beam spot in most cases.) Note: The beam spot of my 40mW DPSS laser is significantly brighter than I'm comfortable looking at for long..

(Wicked also has pretty emphatic warnings in the manual [wickedlasers.com] about never aiming it at satellites. Me, I wouldn't want to be the guy who gets sued by or faces criminal charges from the operators of a commercial or government LEO satellite whose sensors are damaged by one of these. Goes at least double for whoever tries to show off to the ISS crew .. not a good idea.)

Re:Might add a warning... (3, Interesting)

mrops (927562) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318586)

As power levels of these lasers are getting higher up, it takes a dumb kid living 200 yards away shining this stupid thing on my eye and causing injury.

IMO, there should be licensing similar to guns. Maybe even training on how to handle these as opposed to Tom the fat wallet idiot ordering it off the internet.

Re:Might add a warning... (2)

Rhywden (1940872) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318766)

Old physicist's jokes: "Do not look into laser with remaining eye."
"You can only test a laser's functionality twice."

well okay... (1, Flamebait)

bmo (77928) | more than 3 years ago | (#37317954)

At least it costs a kilobuck, so that the idiots who buy these things can also lose a bit of dosh while losing an eye.

And since green also shows up in the atmosphere better, the cops can better locate you when you shine it on their helicopter.

"Do not look into laser aperture with remaining good eye"

--
BMO

Cool... but at the same time pointless (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37317956)

Cool... but at the same time pointless. Seriously what is the point of this laser? If its not safe to use as a pointer etc whats the point? Only a matter of time before some dumb idiot shines it at an airplane or into a person or animals eye.

Re:Cool... but at the same time pointless (1)

ae1294 (1547521) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318168)

Cool... but at the same time pointless. Seriously what is the point of this laser?

It'll keep those damn kids off of my lawn and in the ER where they belong.

Re:Cool... but at the same time pointless (1)

kakyoin01 (2040114) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318180)

Cool... but at the same time pointless.

A pointless pointer? Hmm...

Only a matter of time before some dumb idiot shines it at an airplane or into a person or animals eye.

If you shine me down, I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine!

Re:Cool... but at the same time pointless (1)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318306)

You can combine it with a rotating mirror and a DLP and make monochrome pictures on a wall a long way away? You can fire it at a spinning screen and make Star Wars Holonet-style images?

Re:Cool... but at the same time pointless (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318414)

You can combine it with a rotating mirror and a DLP and make monochrome pictures on a wall a long way away? You can fire it at a spinning screen and make Star Wars Holonet-style images?

A sixty foot image of Princess Lea in the middle of the park?

What's not to like?

Re:Cool... but at the same time pointless (1)

TheCRAIGGERS (909877) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318462)

A sixty foot image of Princess Lea in the middle of the park?

What's not to like?

I've heard her beauty can blind a man.

Re:Cool... but at the same time pointless (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37318470)

Oooh, like they did in 1967! How amazing!

Stepped up their game (1)

chill (34294) | more than 3 years ago | (#37317958)

Warning: This laser's brightness is potentially hazardous to pilots' vision and satellite sensors. NEVER point it at an aircraft or a satellite.

Wow. Nothing like fucking with the guys on the ISS for lulz. Maybe spot that new Air Force mini spy shuttle, or whatever it is.

Re:Stepped up their game (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37318074)

Better yet, time to start blinding those spy sats!

Re:Stepped up their game (1)

djdanlib (732853) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318544)

Yes! Let us amateurs attempt to damage a satellite that was specifically designed to provide fast high-resolution mapping and targeting, and was probably designed to withstand "enemy" sabotage attempts! What could possibly go wrong? :)

I have a blue one (1, Informative)

kurt555gs (309278) | more than 3 years ago | (#37317976)

It took forever to get. Then the charger didn't work, I emailed and got one in 3 days. (The repair department is much better than the order department where you wait and wait)

Anyway, it's awesome. It burns things, It's fun. I love it.

I also bought a Torch flashlight from them and waited months, actually given up ever seeing it, then it finally arrived. It's cool too.

Re:I have a blue one (1)

scorp1us (235526) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318234)

Burns things how? Pics or it didn't happen. Video is even better.

Can I use this to kill bugs on my ceiling. Will it work on asian stink bugs?

you don't want this (5, Insightful)

vijayiyer (728590) | more than 3 years ago | (#37317980)

As cool as this is, you really don't want one. Specular reflections off other surfaces can blind you instantly. There's no way to actually hand hold it with it powered in any remotely safe manner. If it doesn't terrify you, you don't know what you're dealing with, and if it does, you probably don't want one.

Re:you don't want this (1)

Tim524 (2455290) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318034)

Agreed +++ Sadder than the idiots that foolishly blind themselves, will be the idiots that blind innocents. :/

Re:you don't want this (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37318078)

Anyone still thinking of light sabers deserves whatever happens. Honestly, Star Wars went to shit with ROTJ. Anyone still a fan after that needs a complete psychiatric evaluation.

Re:you don't want this (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318086)

No worries, anyone that stupid will have long ago blinded themselves with cheap moonshine anyway.

Re:you don't want this (2, Informative)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318142)

The goggles they do something. I am pretty sure they come with proper eye protection.

Re:you don't want this (1)

Have Brain Will Rent (1031664) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318318)

Proper eye protection would include goggles for all persons within the maximum dangerous range of the laser as drunken idiots and teenagers (and drunken teenage idiots) will be waving them around and bouncing them off shiny surfaces.

Re:you don't want this (1)

will381796 (1219674) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318398)

Given the technical specifications provided by the manufacturer, the NOHD for the 1W 532nm laser is 149 meters (~488 feet). Anyone that is closer than 488 feet from you, if they were to have intrabeam viewing of the beam or a specular reflection would exceed the MPE for this laser and would experience a very severe retinal burn. There's absolutely no reason for anyone other than a researcher to own a laser like this. If you were foolish enough to purchase this laser, make sure whatever goggles you purchase have an OD of at least 4.

Re:you don't want this (1)

djdanlib (732853) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318572)

At that distance in a populated area, you can't be reasonably sure that you won't have reflected beams hit something that refocuses them. So there's really no safe way to use this other than in a controlled laboratory, where you should probably be purchasing different lasers anyway.

Re:you don't want this (0)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318664)

So no one would ever want to use one as part of a hobby?
No one would ever find a use you do not know of?

I am glad you are not in charge of what free people can purchase. I bet amazon would have half its stock removed.

Re:you don't want this (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318600)

So use it indoors.
Seems pretty simple.

I own a gun, that could kill people. So far I manage to use that responsibly, no reason a laser could not be used in the same controller manner.

Re:you don't want this (1)

LordLimecat (1103839) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318694)

A gun is pretty limited by the noise it makes, and by the fact that you have to aim it. Aim the laser at a prism (or basically anything semi-reflective-- white paint on the side of a house?) and watch as everyone around you gets eye damage, silently, immediately. Guns also have a very limited range at which they are effective-- handguns are well under a kilometer i believe. Im sure this laser is effective at well over a mile.

And unlike gunshot wounds, im pretty sure eye damage from lasers is generally permenant.

Re:you don't want this (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37318894)

No.. I think gunshot wounds to your eye are also permanent.

Re:you don't want this (2)

QuasiSteve (2042606) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318384)

The goggles they do something. I am pretty sure they come with proper eye protection

I didn't realize they came with a pair for everybody else that might get hit by the same beam. Does the laser pointer come with a 30 second advance warning, too?

Or should we all just start wearing them by default - http://www.stltoday.com/suburban-journals/stcharles/news/article_1e221000-e502-56f6-b5e5-90530677a8c2.html [stltoday.com] - just because some people are irresponsible and some companies are irresponsible enough to sell to irresponsible people?
( yes, I am suggesting that Wicked Lasers, and other companies making a mint on their main market of people abusing lasers for teh lulz, are acting irresponsibly no matter how many warning labels they put up, disclaimers they list, and safety products they sell. )

The general public has no use case for a 1W laser - or even many energy levels well below that. Those who do can go fill in paperwork and registration forms - no different from guns (not that that is working out particularly well in a market that's flooded with the things).

Re:you don't want this (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318632)

The vendor is not responsible anymore than a hammer maker is responsible when someone kills his spouse with a hammer.

I don't have to fill out registration forms for guns. All I needed was a drivers license and a simple call to the police. Only handguns have those restrictions.

Re:you don't want this (1)

LordLimecat (1103839) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318708)

Its significantly harder and messier to kill someone with a hammer than it is to blind someone with a laser.

Re:you don't want this (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37318836)

to kill someone with a hammer, all i have to do is spend an hour working a minimum wage job and then take a quick trip to home depot (assuming my code of ethics prevents me from just grabbing one off the shelf).
to blind someone with this laser, i have to spend a week or two working full time and then wait six months for them to ship me one.
i'd argue that the hammer route is much easier.

Re:you don't want this (1)

mr1911 (1942298) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318838)

Not even handguns are registered, if you live in one of the few states that is still almost free. Yes, they do run a background check, but that doesn't usually take more than a few minutes. Some states even bypass the fed background check if you have a concealed carry permit.

But none of that is registration yet. The FFL still retains the form with the s/n recorded, so a database of owners isn't too far off.

The longest part of buying a gun is waiting on the dealer to complete the 4473. Most are overly cautious, since the BATFE has nothing better to do than go after dealers when a customer fills in the state as TX instead of TEXAS. Oh yeah, that and encouraging thousands of illegal purchases to stream into Mexico, in an attempt to turn the political tide such that there are enough votes for more infringements on the 2nd Amendment. Never mind that those guns turn up at places where a border patrol officer was murdered. That is government bureaucracy keeping you safe right there, folks.

Re:you don't want this (1)

SecurityGuy (217807) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318730)

I really hate things like this. Nitwits at a local beach vacation spot buy the lower powered versions ($30-$130, don't recall the wattage) and shine them EVERYWHERE. I know kids who have had them shined in their eyes, though briefly and without any damage. At night stretches of hotels are nothing but roaming green dots.

The difference between these and guns is that guns go BOOM, kick, and are well known to produce devastating damage to humans. Laser pointers are silent, have no recoil, and just make bright spots on things. So yeah, somebody's going to end up blinded by this, held by some moron a football field away, lost in a crowd of similar idiots waving less dangerous lasers at buildings full of people.

Re:you don't want this (5, Insightful)

Amouth (879122) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318772)

Those who do can go fill in paperwork and registration forms - no different from guns (not that that is working out particularly well in a market that's flooded with the things).

i think the part that is different here is that the average Joe views a gun as a dangerous weapon - one that if i pull the trigger i have the chance to alter someones life and i'm responsible for it.

the average Joe views a laser pointer as a toy.

this product is anything but a toy - and anyone who teats it as such will pay the consequences (along with the people around them).

While i'm against laws preventing me from owning something like this (or a gun, which i don't currently), I'm all for mandatory safety training & certification. If there was a machine that had something like this on it in Industry - there would be safety training, and that is for people who deal with them on a daily basis (same as cops and guns). The fact that we let the average Joe with no training go wild with it is just irresponsible, and sadly it is more likely the people around this person who will pay for it.

Re:you don't want this (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37318464)

The comment about proper eye protection is naive. Eye protection for a 1W green laser would only protect against attenuated reflections. Such a laser should only be operated inside an appropriate enclosure, or in a closed room while mounted in a fixed position below eye level with now reflective surfaces in the room. There would need to be appropriate signage on the doors to the room.

No one who cannot calculate Nominal Hazard Zones should be making decisions about operating the laser.

Re:you don't want this (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37318204)

There's no way to actually hand hold it with it powered in any remotely safe manner. If it doesn't terrify you, you don't know what you're dealing with, and if it does, you probably don't want one.

I would say you're the one who doesn't know what we're dealing with here. You buy safety goggles to protect your eyes, they make goggles that can protect you against much stronger lasers than this. Yes, it is not a toy, and if you use it like a toy and without adequate safety measures, you will hurt yourself or someone else. But to say it's impossible to use a 1W laser safely is ridiculous.

Re:you don't want this (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37318238)

"If it doesn't terrify you, you don't know what you're dealing with, and if it does, you probably don't want one."

Well, I actually have a 2.5W blue laser, but yes - it terrifies me and I treat it with the respect it deserves, wear proper eye protection, keep body parts away from it, and only operate it in a safe/controlled environment with no 'random people' around. The people calling it a 'light saber' scare the bloody crap out of me, as if its some 'cool toy'. A 1W laser is about as much of a 'toy' as an AK47 or a flamethrower, and deserves every bit of proper training and handling as those do.

Re:you don't want this (4, Funny)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318330)

A 1W laser is about as much of a 'toy' as an AK47 or a flamethrower

So, you mean it's not a toy, it's a really fun toy?

Re:you don't want this (1)

Tsingi (870990) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318674)

A 1W laser is about as much of a 'toy' as an AK47 or a flamethrower

So, you mean it's not a toy, it's a really fun toy?

The more I read, the more I agree with you.

I definitely shouldn't have one.

Re:you don't want this (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37318684)

Score 3 what?
Standard Idiot?

Re:you don't want this (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37318484)

The people calling it a 'light saber' scare the bloody crap out of me, as if its some 'cool toy'.

While fictional, a light saber is a lethal weapon and sadly most movies don't show proper handling of lethal weapons.

Re:you don't want this (1)

SoCalChris (573049) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318768)

A 1W laser is about as much of a 'toy' as an AK47 or a flamethrower, and deserves every bit of proper training and handling as those do.

The Wicked Laser 1KW Green Laser, the very best there is. When you absolutely, positively, got to blind every motherfucker in the room; accept no substitutes.

Re:you don't want this (4, Informative)

kimvette (919543) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318250)

I have wanted one for the longest time but have resisted for precisely the reasons you cited. All it takes is one bystander to glance at the reflection even from a distance, and they're injured for life. It's not worth it even for such a fantastically fun toy.

I've been thinking about a 70mW-90mW laser for a while but even that poses a high risk of injury even at a significant distance.

(obligatory WARNING: DO NOT STARE INTO LASER WITH REMAINING EYE.)

Re:you don't want this (2)

Baloroth (2370816) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318410)

Yeah I had a friend that had a 35mW green laser (from Wicked Lasers, IIRC). It was mildly dangerous, but only if you looked at the beam directly (apparently, it could blind, but so long as you were careful the effects wouldn't be permanent). That is the brightest I would ever want a hand-held laser to be. The reflections were almost painfully bright, but not enough to blind, and the beam was very clearly visible. Also, it could light dark objects on fire with some time, making it just about perfect. Oh and it was waterproof. That would be about what I would recommend unless you have a valid reason to get a more powerful one.

Re:you don't want this (4, Informative)

kimvette (919543) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318574)

I've lusted after 1000mW diodes for a long time with the idea of programming beam splitters, mirrors and the like to produce laser shows for parties and family events but it's just too dangerous for close quarters. Kids will insist on playing with them, or if I goof, or anything fails, the idea of blinding someone is scary.

I do need a brighter pointer for astronomy (easier aiming of telescopes and cameras, pointing objects out to others, etc) and 1000mW would be perfect for that (a nice bright clear beam even in low-dust conditions) but the risk of dropping it or a chance reflection off an insect, bat, bird, etc. is just too great because at that level a close range reflection would mean near instant blindness. Even the 70mW-90mW (WL has a 75mW model) is a bit much, but 25mW might not be enough and if you go 50mW, why not go for 75mW for $10 more?

I'd love to play with a 1000mW laser, but since you can't look at the specular reflections, or objects you aim it at without protection, what's the point? What can you safely do with it once you pop a balloon with it, or light a book of matches or burn a wasps' nest? The fun would die out pretty quickly. You can't cut steel with it, you can't weld with it, or really do anything practical with it, and it'd be a boring toy once you've experienced the novelty of popping a balloon or two from across a field using nothing but a beam of light and find there isn't anything you can safely use it for.

Re:you don't want this (1)

LordLimecat (1103839) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318724)

I've lusted after 1000mW diodes for a long time with the idea of programming beam splitters, mirrors and the like to produce laser shows for parties and family events but it's just too dangerous for close quarters. Kids will insist on playing with them, or if I goof, or anything fails, the idea of blinding someone is scary.

Arent laser-light shows-- especially homemade ones-- also spectacularly dangerous?

Re:you don't want this (1)

kimvette (919543) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318900)

Yes, that's kind of my point. There really isn't any purpose to the 1000mW laser unless you want to present a high risk of blinding people. :-(

Re:you don't want this (1)

djdanlib (732853) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318592)

1W is a frightening amount of power for something marketed like this.

Warning: Do not stare at neighboring town with remaining eye.

Re:you don't want this (5, Informative)

Alef (605149) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318302)

I work lasers on a daily basis. At 1000 mW, I would avoid looking even at a diffuse reflex at any reasonably close distance. I would never handle one of those without protective glasses and it mounted towards a beam stop.

Re:you don't want this (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37318660)

I've always dreamed of having a laser on a track that would shoot across the lawn at another track and cut the grass in 10 seconds. What wattage do I need to make that happen?

Re:you don't want this (5, Insightful)

TheLink (130905) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318370)

Yeah it's like an easily concealed fully-automatic machine gun that can fire continuously for one to two hours till the battery runs out, with an "effective range" of up to 149 metres (see NOHD).

AND any idiot/scum with 1000 bucks can buy it and use it, no need for a license or training.

It doesn't actually do direct lethal damage but anyone who thinks this is fine is either stupid or ignorant (or is already blind and has no nonblind entities he/she cares about).

There are already idiots/scum with high powered lasers. In one case, some spectators were shining high powered lasers at the opposing team's players in football match. I'm not sure how high powered they were, but those players certainly noticed and complained. They eventually lost the match, but I don't blame them, I would refuse to play in such conditions. I would actually recommend that the match be called off or boycotted. Not worth permanent eye damage.

Re:you don't want this (1, Insightful)

kevinNCSU (1531307) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318530)

Yeah it's like an easily concealed fully-automatic machine gun that can fire continuously for one to two hours till the battery runs out, with an "effective range" of up to 149 metres....

...It doesn't actually do direct lethal damage

Sooo...not like a machine gun at all then?

Re:you don't want this (1)

vux984 (928602) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318606)

More like a machine gun that only shoots you in the arm or leg. That's would be ok to carry around right?

slashvertisement (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37317992)

Wow, the animated Slashdot ad at the page header shows "Wicked Lasers". How appropriate.

Re:slashvertisement (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37318170)

Wow, the animated Slashdot ad at the page header shows "Wicked Lasers". How appropriate.

You mean "Wicked Lasers 10% off!"

Damn, not powerful enough (3, Funny)

hellfire (86129) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318082)

No popcorn for me :(

Re:Damn, not powerful enough (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37318732)

I'm sure you could do your popcorn one kernel at a time:-) Major geek points for popping a bowl of popcorn this way.

What's the point? (1)

Animats (122034) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318090)

1 watt lasers have been around for years. You can buy the diodes. This is just cute packaging. It's not powerful enough to be a useful weapon or cutting tool, and it's too powerful in a narrow beam to be a useful illumination source.

In the CNC laser cutter world, this is viewed as a very weak laser. [hackaday.com] Commercial laser cutters start around 30 watts (for thin plastic and wood) and go up to about 5KW (sheet steel).

Re:What's the point? (1)

ThorGod (456163) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318314)

So...what's the average price for a 30w commercial laser cutter? How about a comparable 1w laser diode + driver system?

My laser knowledge is probably outdated since I've read old texts on laser experiments. But, last I knew, laser diodes aren't always 'true lasers' like, say, a gas laser. Something about how the waveform varies too much between exiting photons. What I've read, and please inform me, is that diodes can't be used for all experiments.

Re:What's the point? (1)

djdanlib (732853) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318630)

What's a weapon, though? It causes immediate, permanent damage to your opponent's unprotected eyes. That's pretty weapon-like. If you can rob someone of an entire empirical sense, that's worse than chopping off a finger or something, no?

state of the art (1)

StuffMaster (412029) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318132)

Since the eye is far more sensitive to green than to blue, this is pretty much the state of the art in putting-dots-on-stuff technology.

So anything green is state of the art?

Re:state of the art (1)

Abstrackt (609015) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318466)

So anything green is state of the art?

If that's the case, I've got a sandwich that's bleeding edge!

Re:state of the art (1)

Belial6 (794905) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318750)

Eat it, and you might start bleeding from something.

"Green Laser Pointer"...but don't use it as one?? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37318208)

WTF? The title of the page says "Green Laser Pointer" and then in the page itself they have this bit "The S3 Krypton is too powerful to be used as a laser pointer or a gunsight." I'm sure Average Joe is going to still treat this as a powerfule Green Laser pointer to impress and blind his friends with.

I'm very curious to hear about what people actually do with these lasers. Being around Lasers for several years and currently working in the photonics field, I just don't understand what people are using these lasers for in their homes? Funnily enough, this very laser model made it into our EH&S laser safety training material last week.

Re:"Green Laser Pointer"...but don't use it as one (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37318360)

I use a Laser Genetics model on my bow for hog hunting. It is admittedly less powerful than this model, but it is great for illuminating targets.

Honestly, I can't think of a personal use for one like this.

Need Sharks (2, Informative)

cheezitmike (537630) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318212)

Nice friggin' lasers. Now we just need some friggin' sharks to go with them.

Missing the point... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37318286)

What, exactly, can one do with a hand-held laser of this power? By their own admission it's too powerful to be used as a laser pointer. I understand the utility of powerful bench-mounted lasers. This thing just seems like a novelty... an expensive, dangerous, novelty...

Old news (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37318322)

I'm pretty sure wicked has been selling the 1W green lasers for a while now, certainly before the blue one. Looks like another ad made it to the frontpage...

A bit overhyped. Intergalactic? (1)

Dinghy (2233934) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318340)

From TFA: "With it's intergalactic range of 85 miles, the S3 Krypton is the first and only handheld laser visible from outer space." Maybe it's different here but I'd hardly call 85 miles "intergalactic."

Obligitory: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37318362)

Caution! Do not look into laser with remaining eye.

Green Vs Blue Laser questions (1)

JustNiz (692889) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318418)

I understand longer wavelength light (i.e. -> infra red) but blue photons have higher energy than green ones, so would a blue laser be better or worse than a green laser for burning/meltng stuff?

Given we know that exposing your eyes to any laser light is a bad idea, and that blue light has more energy but your eyes are way more sensitive to green, which color laser would potentially be a higher risk for damaging your eyes (say from specular reflections)?

Re:Green Vs Blue Laser questions (1)

stillnotelf (1476907) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318778)

The most important thing would be, what wavelengths does the material you're cutting absorb? Whatever it absorbs best will heat it for cutting the fastest, I would think. The blue is a greater risk for damaging your eyes, both because the photons are higher energy and because your eye sees it less well so you are less likely to say "damn, that's bright" and look away. For vision, the higher-energy photons matter more than absorption, because the damage done to your eyes is not so much heating damage as bleaching damage - chromophores (and DNA and stuff) in your eyes gets destroyed at the micro level, not the macro level.

Laser Microscope (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37318480)

http://www.teravolt.org/microlaser.php

The first time I used this (2)

Lucas123 (935744) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318510)

When I used this laser for my Power Point presentation, the projection screen ended up looking like a kiddy's scissor class had cut it up for a paper doll!

three power level? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37318516)

my power level's always hidden.

1 watt laser that anybody can buy? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37318536)

That's plane-crashingly awesome!

what the heck are these for? (2)

craftycoder (1851452) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318578)

Can any explain why they want one of these exceedingly dangerous "toys" lying around? This seems like the kind of thing that felony reckless depraved indifference assault charges was designed for.

Re:what the heck are these for? (1)

kirkb (158552) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318924)

Second amendment!

- pretend to have weapons around for "protection"
- actually have it because its cool and/or makes you feel like a big shot
- eventually gets used to [accidentally | deliberately] kill or injure self or others.

Red? (1)

lazn (202878) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318594)

So with blue and green 1w handheld lasers... are there Red ones available? With that we could get white!

Not a gunsight laser... (1)

hedgemage (934558) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318624)

The video mentioned several times that this laser is "too powerful to be used as a gun-sight". I'm not a shooter, so I honestly don't know why... Couldn't having a potentially eye-frying, laser-pointer-of-the-gods be a handy thing to attach to a tool that you intend to utilize for inflicting grievous bodily harm or death?

You evil bastard! (1)

Overzeetop (214511) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318864)

No, no, no - blinding an opponent is against the Geneva Convention. You're only allowed to humanely kill them by ripping holes in them with supersonic slugs of heavy metal, or burning them alive and violently dismembering them with incendiary devices dropped gently from aerial craft.

What kind of cruel bastard are you?

Re:Not a gunsight laser... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37318866)

The video mentioned several times that this laser is "too powerful to be used as a gun-sight". I'm not a shooter, so I honestly don't know why... Couldn't having a potentially eye-frying, laser-pointer-of-the-gods be a handy thing to attach to a tool that you intend to utilize for inflicting grievous bodily harm or death?

Nah, no good. As soon as you point it at a deer, say, it goes YOUCH and takes off running. Or it is blinded and freezes, and you get ticketed for "spotlighting" game, even if it is during the daylight!

SB

Re:Not a gunsight laser... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37318880)

I am a shooter. You probably don't want it on a firearm. Run the laser over somebody's shiny belt buckle and blind yourself in the reflection, oops.

Besides which, any time lethal force is justified you wouldn't want to waste time dicking around with the laser (intended to be an aim-assist) trying to shine it in somebody's eyes (like its a less-lethal weapon). If lethal force is not justified... leave the firearm in its holster.

Aaaaaaaaaand... I don't know what kind of housing this thing has, or how hardy its internals are. So they may not be up to the beating a string of fire will inflict. Nor is this thing likely to come in standard weaver or picatinny rail mounts.

Re:Not a gunsight laser... (1)

Ksevio (865461) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318892)

Well that would be in violation of the Geneva convention for one thing, so you won't want to be using it in any wars.

Question (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37318714)

Inquiry: what exactly are these things used for? I gather this is far too powerful to simply use as a pointer during a power point presentation.

So, what are these things used for? Surveying? Interrogating british spies?

Cheaper to fly to China... (1)

nobodynoone (940116) | more than 3 years ago | (#37318720)

I was in China a few months back, and these were being sold for 150RMB for a 500mw ($15) 400-500 RMB (about $70-$80) for a 1000mw version, and about 700 RMB for a 2000mw.

The salesmen in the markets demonstrated them by lighting matches with the 1000mw green ones from several feet away. Amazing. I bought a 100mw blue one for the equivalent of $9, hoping I'd be less likely to blind myself with that.

FDA ban (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37318848)

You can give them Money, but unless the FDA allows them into the country, you would need to buy an airline ticket to get one:

    http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/cms_ia/importalert_254.html

unless they have resolved all the issues, which, I doubt.

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