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German Court Upholds Ban On Samsung Galaxy Tab

Soulskill posted about 3 years ago | from the win-some-lose-some dept.

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With his first posted submission, ctusch writes "It seems Samsung has finally lost the battle against Apple in Germany. Today the district court in Düsseldorf ruled that Samsung must not sell its Galaxy Tab 10.1 in Germany. Furthermore, it has banned Samsung Germany from selling the Galaxy Tab 10.1 anywhere in Europe."

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Apple (5, Funny)

Haedrian (1676506) | about 3 years ago | (#37354434)

Driving innovation in the field of shapes forward.

Re:Apple (0)

Reverand Dave (1959652) | about 3 years ago | (#37354534)

Shiny shapes with shiny pictures and don't forget that they are shiny.

Re:Apple (3, Interesting)

wsxyz (543068) | about 3 years ago | (#37354542)

Obviously the judge didn't bother to read the evidence or he would have realized that the whole case is just Apple trying to patent rectangles.

Re:Apple (5, Funny)

Haedrian (1676506) | about 3 years ago | (#37354586)

Its a ROUNDED rectangle.

I wrote the innovation in allcaps so you wouldn't miss it.

Re:Apple (4, Funny)

wsxyz (543068) | about 3 years ago | (#37354624)

Well it doesn't really matter because it's a well known fact that German judges make their decisions by drinking a few liters of beer and then flipping a coin.
I mean, it's not like anyone who actually considered the evidence and listened to the arguments would find for Apple.

Re:Apple (1)

Haedrian (1676506) | about 3 years ago | (#37354682)

I am still trying to work out what happened in the actual court.

"I think these two pictures look the same"
"Yeah, I think so too"
"Agreed?"
"Court is adjourned"

Surely you hardly need more than a few minutes.

Re:Apple (1)

wsxyz (543068) | about 3 years ago | (#37354802)

That was only the preliminary injunction.

"Still the same picture?"
"Yeah..."
"Injunction confirmed."

What else can you hope for in a place where a "late night before the law exam" refers to a party in the university pub? right?

Re:Apple (5, Funny)

ItsJustAPseudonym (1259172) | about 3 years ago | (#37354706)

The judge probably had the decision written on an iPad.

"I find in favor of Sam^H^H^H...what...uh...oh, here it is: Apple! I could have sworn I wrote something different, earlier."

Easy to fix! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37354638)

Samsung simply needs to stop copying Apple's ideas!

More innovative than samsung (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37354912)

Remember, the samsung tablets used to look like this before the iPad:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cuneiform+tablet

I'd say that, given the prototype, Apple may have a point.

Since when is copying innovation? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37354918)

I'm sorry but the attitude on /. here is that whatever not Apple would do it's ALWAYS wrong. Imagine if tables were reversed and how the reaction would be towards Samsung if there would be a reaction at all!

Re:Since when is copying innovation? (2)

blair1q (305137) | about 3 years ago | (#37355176)

Ever read a patent application? Ever research the long list of cited patents in every one?

Innovation is nothing but copying and adding a dot.

Re:Apple (2)

DurendalMac (736637) | about 3 years ago | (#37354978)

More like Apple: Finding ways to squeeze licensing fees out of Android handset/tablet makers, much like the rest of the industry.

The relevant piece of so-called "IP" (2)

manekineko2 (1052430) | about 3 years ago | (#37355074)

I read about this originally in this Techcrunch article:
http://techcrunch.com/2011/09/09/apple-ftw-german-court-upholds-galaxy-tab-10-1-sales-ban/ [techcrunch.com]

In it, they link to the design in question, Community Design 000181607 for the iPad:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/61944044/Community-Design-000181607-0001 [scribd.com]

Look at it! I mean look at it! It is literally a rounded rectangle with a screen on the front! I'm not even exaggerating. Look at it!

Re:The relevant piece of so-called "IP" (1)

wsxyz (543068) | about 3 years ago | (#37355304)

Wow. I'll bet if the judge had seen that document he would have decided differently!

Re:The relevant piece of so-called "IP" (1)

manekineko2 (1052430) | about 3 years ago | (#37355702)

I realize you're trolling this story making a ton of posts (10 at the time of my post, all trolls) ridiculing anyone that has bad things to say about Apple, but your response is completely nonsensical to mine, making it not even an amusing troll.

The judge obviously did see this document, as it is purported to be the Community Design (what people are calling patents) in question around which this case revolves.

The judge has decided that, "Apple’s minimalistic design isn’t the only technical solution to make a tablet computer." This case establishes that it doesn't matter if the screen's aspect ratio is different, the OS is different, etc. minimalist all-screen tablet is Apple's property.

Re:Apple (1)

blair1q (305137) | about 3 years ago | (#37355114)

Did they say anything about how it feels? Maybe if they'd ignored feel in the first place they'd have put Microsoft out of business in 1994.

I don't understand (1)

Synesthes (1351729) | about 3 years ago | (#37354436)

How does the court in Germany have jurisdiction over all of Europe? Can someone explain this?

Re:I don't understand (3, Informative)

ZigZagJoe (1724868) | about 3 years ago | (#37354468)

It doesn't; they're banning the german branch from exporting them to the rest of europe.

Re:I don't understand (1)

Haedrian (1676506) | about 3 years ago | (#37354472)

", it has banned Samsung Germany from selling the Galaxy Tab 10.1 anywhere in Europe"

I think its just Samsung Germany, other importers/whatever from Europe can still sell it.

Re:I don't understand (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37354480)

Its not preventing OTHER divisions of Samsung from selling the Galaxy Tab in Europe, just Samsung Germany, they have jurisdiction over Samsung Germany because Samsung Germany is located in... GERMANY.

Re:I don't understand (1)

sitkill (893183) | about 3 years ago | (#37354526)

It's not a ban of the Samsung 10.1 tablet from all of Europe, just from Samsung Germany Division from selling it in other parts of Europe. Considering Samsung has divisions in most countries, this is a bit of a moot point.

In addition, Samsung Germany may not sell the device in any other European Union country, although other Samsung divisions may sell into those countries, a spokesman at the court said.

Re:I don't understand (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37354528)

From TFA this only applies to Samsung Germany from selling it to other countries in the EU.

Can anyone tell me... (4, Insightful)

recoiledsnake (879048) | about 3 years ago | (#37354440)

Re:Can anyone tell me... (1)

Haedrian (1676506) | about 3 years ago | (#37354520)

My monitor could be prior art. Its a rectangle with rounded edges so I don't cut my hand against the edge when closing the laptop lid.

Re:Can anyone tell me... (2)

Kenja (541830) | about 3 years ago | (#37354536)

Its not prior art because its not made by Apple, duh.

Re:Can anyone tell me... (2, Insightful)

Telvin_3d (855514) | about 3 years ago | (#37354612)

Because, despite many misleading headlines and voluminous nerdrage, this has never been about tablets in general. Apple didn't sue Samsung for making a tablet. Apple sued Samsung for making a tablet with some very specific features and designs that they claimed were stolen from protected Apple designs. After looking at the case, the courts have agreed that those very specific features were indeed used improperly.

But all the headlines are "Apple claims they own all tablets" and then we get posts like yours.

Re:Can anyone tell me... (2)

Haedrian (1676506) | about 3 years ago | (#37354700)

Care to toss me a link to an article listing these very specific features?

Re:Can anyone tell me... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37355594)

Here's the registered design. Those are the only specific features the whole lawsuit was based on.
http://esearch.oami.europa.eu/copla/design/data/000181607-0001 [slashdot.org]

Re:Can anyone tell me... (1, Informative)

Kenja (541830) | about 3 years ago | (#37354762)

Apple claims to own rectangular tablet computers with rounded corners and cameras on the front that can be used in portrait mode. If that doesn't just about cover all tablets what does?

Re:Can anyone tell me... (1)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | about 3 years ago | (#37354924)

Apple claims to own rectangular tablet computers with rounded corners and cameras on the front that can be used in portrait mode. If that doesn't just about cover all tablets what does?

Everybody had those on Deep Space 9.

Re:Can anyone tell me... (1)

toriver (11308) | about 3 years ago | (#37355626)

Do they? Is that the complete court filings compressed into one sentence? Where did you read the court filings? (And doctored documents posted by bloggers do not count as court filings.) Is it possible Slashdot posters and the judge have different sources?

Re:Can anyone tell me... (2, Informative)

Riceballsan (816702) | about 3 years ago | (#37354832)

Well the patent in question pointed out was more or less just a picture of a rounded rectangular device with a touchscreen, no details on technical implimentations. Evidence itself was more or less just pictures of the layout and shape of the ipad next to the samsung galaxy, with the galaxy's images resized and resolution changed to match the ipad

Re:Can anyone tell me... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37355012)

So next we will get something like, "This Toyota Corolla looks a lot like this Honda Civic - you can't sell this Corolla in Germany".

Re:Can anyone tell me... (0)

ObiWanKenblowme (718510) | about 3 years ago | (#37355220)

If a Corolla looked enough like a Civic as to potentially cause confusion among buyers, then yeah. You'd get something exactly like that.

Re:Can anyone tell me... (2)

Haedrian (1676506) | about 3 years ago | (#37355364)

Yeah, I mean when buying an expensive device you don't check whether the box has "Samsung" or "Apple" on it, you don't check what OS the device runs or anything of that sort, you just pick it up at random and then realise you made a mistake. Whoops.

Re:Can anyone tell me... (0)

ObiWanKenblowme (718510) | about 3 years ago | (#37355698)

So you're argument is that as long as the box is labelled somewhere with the manufacturer's name, it shouldn't matter how closely alike the products look?

Re:Can anyone tell me... (1)

tonywong (96839) | about 3 years ago | (#37355312)

http://www.caradvice.com.au/14583/fiat-panda-chinese-copy-banned-from-europe/

Re:Can anyone tell me... (1)

dogmatixpsych (786818) | about 3 years ago | (#37355320)

It's also because Samsung was involved in manufacturing processes for Apple and then Samsung comes out with tablets (and modifications of Android) that are a lot like the iPad (more so than other tablets).

It shipped after the iPad (1)

Quila (201335) | about 3 years ago | (#37355564)

And from conception it was supposed to be a big iPod Touch anyway, so they're still copying Apple.

Apple! (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37354464)

Too bad Apple can't sell their iDevices on their own merits, rather than snuffing out the competition!

Re:Apple! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37354742)

one needs only to look at the sales numbers of iPads vs absolutely-fucking-anything to realize that they're having no trouble moving them.

Having owned ipad1 iPad 2 galaxy tab 10.1 and moto xoom i can assure you that there isn't any competition to snuff yet...both android tablets were buggy flimsy shit.

I dont understand why everyone is getting so butt hurt about this lawsuit. Samsung makes a tablet that looks like the iPad, with iPad looking icons, an iPad looking dock connector and comes in and iPad looking box...why wouldn't Apple sue them? If anything all this BS is probably getting these me-too kirf tablets more publicity than they would otherwise, who the fuck in their right mind would pay $500 for a kirf iPad when a real one is the same price?

Re:Apple! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37355324)

I dont understand why everyone is getting so butt hurt about this lawsuit. Samsung makes a tablet that looks like the iPad, with iPad looking icons, an iPad looking dock connector and comes in and iPad looking box...why wouldn't Apple sue them?

The judgment has nothing to do with the box, the icons or the connector. It's about the rectangular shape of a mobile computing device.

If anything all this BS is probably getting these me-too kirf tablets more publicity than they would otherwise, who the fuck in their right mind would pay $500 for a kirf iPad when a real one is the same price?

1. It has more RAM (1GB vs 512MB)
2. Both cameras are of better quality.
3. It's thinner and lighter
4. You are not forced to use iTunes to use it
5. You don't need Apple's approval before having the right to install a software on a tablet you own
6. Display resolution is higher
7. In Canada, it's also cheaper.
8. It has a GPS even on the Wifi version. GPS navigation is free
9. The HSPA version is 21 Mbps instead of, I guess, 7.2 Mbps. And there is even an LTE version

So yeah, why would anyone buy a Galaxy Tab 10.1?
Unfortunately, Samsung copied Apple's bad habit of having a proprietary dock connector and no SD card slot. I wish Apple sues Samsung for that.

Re:Apple! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37355388)

So yeah, why would anyone buy a Galaxy Tab 10.1?

Because it's slower. Has worse battery life. Crashes. Used the piece of shit Android operating system. Poor build quality. That's why nobody is buy them.

Re:Apple! (1, Troll)

kanguro (1237830) | about 3 years ago | (#37355514)

No Apps? Cluster*uck malware ridden market? Crap user experience? Worst operating system for a tablet? Pick your choice.

Re:Apple! (1)

rtfa-troll (1340807) | about 3 years ago | (#37355542)

one needs only to look at the sales numbers of iPads vs absolutely-fucking-anything to realize that they're having no trouble moving them.

Nobody's denying that. What the grandparent post is saying is that if the Samsung would have been on sale then Apple would have sold less. And if Apple hadn't been running around the whole phone and touchpad market threatening people then a whole bunch of other devices better than the Samsung would have been on the market earlier. Apple is directly hurting the consumer by stopping the production of any device which is better than their own.

I am SO angry (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37354476)

I am so angry with Germany and Apple, that they do not ratify my personal worldveiw.

That Samsung is just another soulless corporate entity doesn't matter to me, because they use Anroid.

Ridiculous! (1, Troll)

wsxyz (543068) | about 3 years ago | (#37354486)

How is it possible that a judge could be more ignorant of the law than a hoard of anonymous outraged nerds on slashdot?

Re:Ridiculous! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37354600)

Maybe he knows law, yet has no clue about technology. Nerds on Slashdot certainly know tech.

Re:Ridiculous! (1)

wsxyz (543068) | about 3 years ago | (#37354720)

Hey you're probably right. I can just imagine how the judge made this decision:
"... what? ipscreen? 500 mebibibbets..es.. Huh? oh.. my head hurts... Oooh, pretty picture.... I like.... Apple good."

Re:Ridiculous! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37354782)

Or maybe he had a good time when Apple took him to dinner.

Re:Ridiculous! (1)

wsxyz (543068) | about 3 years ago | (#37354860)

Of course! Why didn't I think of that?
A nice meal... a few beers... some after dinner "entertainment"...
German judges are such pushovers.

Re:Ridiculous! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37354658)

The judge may be applying german law correctly. Given that Germany has a lot of stupid laws on the books, that wouldn't be surprising.

Re:Ridiculous! (1)

RightSaidFred99 (874576) | about 3 years ago | (#37354674)

Amazingly, you could make the same inane comment no matter what way the judge ruled! It's a win win for stupidity. If another judge in some other country finds the exact polar opposite in his ruling, I guess it's possible we can have an opinion then, or is that not cool too?

Because Apple lied in court (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37354710)

If you don't recall from previous articles on this, Apple photoshopped the evidence to make it look like the iPad and the Samsung Galaxy Tab were similar. They also customized the screen on the Galaxy Tab to make it look more like an iPad instead of using the default screen.

Here, I'll even give you links:

Flawed Evidence In EU Apple vs. Samsung Case [slashdot.org]
More Photoshopped Evidence In Apple v. Samsung [slashdot.org]

In short: Apple won because they lied to the judge.

Re:Because Apple lied in court (-1)

Tharsman (1364603) | about 3 years ago | (#37354980)

1) That made worldwide rounds. You can bet it was considered and investigated.
2) Imagine Nikey made a lawsuit because some one is using their logo, only the other company stretched it vertically by 10%. The logo is still the same, and a squashed photoshop edit could just be used to display how its exactly the same design, only stretched vertically 10%

Mind you: I don't agree at all with these cases because:
A) For one, these tablets are barely selling as they stand.
B) For the other, I hate patents. I really do.
C) Additionally, this is really just Apple pursuing a proxy fight against Google. It is Google and Android Apple is really angry against (after all, they were a partner involved in the original iPhone providing services between other things.) Apple was really betrayed by Google just like they were betrayed by Microsoft back in the day.
D) And that last point leads to: Sorry Steve, but "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me." You knew they were working on an "old style phone" and yet allow their involvement, same way MS was working on "old style command line OS". Your bad. Live with that and let them live or fail on their own merit.
E) Finally, and again following up: let them live or die on their own merit. Competition is good for everyone. Let android live (unless they stamp a white glowing bitten Orange with a leaf in the back of their devices.)

Re:Because Apple lied in court (2)

Kenja (541830) | about 3 years ago | (#37355046)

So your claim is that a rounded rectangle is now an Apple logo? Thats a stretch by even Jobsian standards. And if its true that Apple owns the rounded rectangle despite it being a standard form factor, what exactly do you suggest other hardware makers do?

Re:Because Apple lied in court (0)

Tharsman (1364603) | about 3 years ago | (#37355240)

There are only two types of people that can simplify the lawsuit so plainly: Apple haters and google Fanbois.

The lawsuit was not just because of the rounded rect proportion around the device. It was about the entire device design, and once you shrink the thing 10% vertically both units are nearly identical. Samsung even goes away from the Android design standards of back/home/menu buttons intentionally to make the device look more like Apple's devices.

Again: I don't really care if Apple was right because I still think the lawsuit is stupid, but I also feel that plagiarism, although not illegal (and hopefully never so), should be publicly called out when its that intentional. And I say this as some one who got his wife a Samsung Gravity phone.

Re:Because Apple lied in court (2)

Kenja (541830) | about 3 years ago | (#37355288)

"once you shrink the thing 10% vertically both units are nearly identical"

Different size, different layout, different aspect ratio, etc. If you're going to claim they are the same, how about you list the similarities other then "rectangular with rounded corners and a camera on the front" which is all I've seen Apple claim so far.

Re:Because Apple lied in court (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37355552)

The problem is that the difference between the Apple tablet and the Samsung tablet is about as big as the difference between the Apple tablet and previous tablets from other companies.
Apple wasn't first with the design they claim that they have a design trademark on.

Have you by the way even looked at Apples design patent that is used in this case? I have and it is so sketchy that it isn't obvious if it is for an iPad or an IBM thinkpad with closed lid.

Re:Because Apple lied in court (1)

Spectre (1685) | about 3 years ago | (#37355340)

So your claim is that a rounded rectangle is now an Apple logo? Thats a stretch by even Jobsian standards. And if its true that Apple owns the rounded rectangle despite it being a standard form factor, what exactly do you suggest other hardware makers do?

Well, there is always the Pear Phone [wikia.com] and it's larger sibling, the Pear Pad.

Re:Because Apple lied in court (-1, Flamebait)

ObiWanKenblowme (718510) | about 3 years ago | (#37355350)

His claim is that the iPad has a unique design - defined by more than just a "rounded rectangle", as you and scores of other outraged internet nerds love to rant over - and that Samsung broke German law by too-closely copying it in their own product(s). Seeing as now German courts have ruled twice in Apple's favor, it would seem to be a reasonable claim at that.

Re:Because Apple lied in court (2, Informative)

Kenja (541830) | about 3 years ago | (#37355402)

If its so unique, then you should have no problems listing its unique features. So far I've not seen any such list. Apples own filings are just a picture of a rectangular touch screen computer with rounded corners and a camera.

Re:Because Apple lied in court (1)

wsxyz (543068) | about 3 years ago | (#37355128)

Sure. A German court found for Apple twice because of some photoshopped pictures.
Right....

Re:Because Apple lied in court (1)

Kenja (541830) | about 3 years ago | (#37355164)

given that the initial ruling was given without Samsung being allowed to defend itself or present evidence, why is that so hard to believe?

Re:Because Apple lied in court (1)

wsxyz (543068) | about 3 years ago | (#37355358)

And when Samsung was there the second time, I'm sure they forgot to mention the eeeeeevvvvil photoshopping.
Too bad Samsung hired a bunch of incompetents as lawyers. Any outraged nerd on slashdot could have done better.

New Dictator in Germany? (1)

MrBGsays (1785394) | about 3 years ago | (#37354508)

sieg heil! Apple

Re:New Dictator in Germany? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37354678)

sieg heil! Apple

No, no, no. Apple über alles!

This case is black and white (1)

chrisj_0 (825246) | about 3 years ago | (#37354518)

Ipad is white galaxy tab is black: how do they look alike?

Re:This case is black and white (1)

Haedrian (1676506) | about 3 years ago | (#37354560)

They're both rounded rectangles. You see Apple invented the rounded rectangle. If you find any textbooks which say otherwise, please return them to the Ministry of Information for corrections.

Nazis..... (1)

Vinegar Joe (998110) | about 3 years ago | (#37354524)

I hate those guys - Indiana Jones

Re:Nazis..... (1)

blair1q (305137) | about 3 years ago | (#37355226)

Illinois Nazis.
-Elwood Blues

I hate Illinois Nazis.
-Jake Blues

Finally? (4, Informative)

SwedishChef (69313) | about 3 years ago | (#37354642)

According to the story Samsung Germany is appealing the decision so it's probably not "final". In addition, the ruling only bans Samsung Germany from selling into the EU marketplace; other Samsung divisions can sell into it.

Re:Finally? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37354898)

According to the story Samsung Germany is appealing the decision so it's probably not "final". In addition, the ruling only bans Samsung Germany from selling into the EU marketplace; other Samsung divisions can sell into it.

But other regions will soon get the German result thrown into the court cases, adding more weight to them on Apple's side. Generally, judges don't like to disagree, so this is a massive "win" for Apple.

Germany (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37354648)

Germany is simply screwed up. Of all the shit that came out of there and all the stuff they stop from being released. Not the first case like this there.

Doomed! (1)

na1led (1030470) | about 3 years ago | (#37354688)

Samsung Tablet is doomed! Samsung is getting punched in the gut by Apple, slapped in the face by HP (touchpads at $99), and soon kicked in the groin by Amazon! Can anyone smell a FireSale?

In other news... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37354738)

I hear Samsung is developing a round tablet with square corners!

boycott Germany? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37354764)

I have German blood & now i have to boycott things German eh? great.. just great.

Re:boycott Germany? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37355244)

Yes. Go for it. Boycott your own blood.

Damn German Capitalists! (1)

Alzheimers (467217) | about 3 years ago | (#37354816)

Who would have thought that, in 2011, we would be complaining about the damn German Capitalists ruining Europe?

I guess the old motto still holds true: if you can't beat 'em, join 'em!

Re:Damn German Capitalists! (1)

blair1q (305137) | about 3 years ago | (#37355264)

I would've thought by now we'd be pissed that the people on Ganymede were running an unobtainium cartel and driving up the price of telekinesis.

But, it's still Germans. And not one flying car.

"Minimalistic Design" (4, Informative)

RightSaidFred99 (874576) | about 3 years ago | (#37354874)

The Apple Defenders are cracking me up defending this.

The judge had the gall to say "The court is of the opinion that Apple's minimalistic design isn't the only technical solution to make a tablet computer". Seriously.

If you don't understand how absolutely ridiculous that is, the idea of a "minimalistic design" (even if you then go into details about silly things like rounded corners, no buttons, etc...) as something you can own, then there's simply no hope for you.

Germany's a bit nutty anyway, so I don't put too much stock in it. Worst case Samsung should just add a little button somewhere, change a few angles here or there, and resell. Then it can continue the slow domination of Apple again.

Re:"Minimalistic Design" (0)

blair1q (305137) | about 3 years ago | (#37355296)

On the other hand, there is such a thing as a Design Patent, and if you make something that looks like someone else's design, you have to honor the patent until it runs out. That's how the patent system works, and the law. Don't like it? Get it changed. There's ways to do that, too.

Re:"Minimalistic Design" (0, Flamebait)

ObiWanKenblowme (718510) | about 3 years ago | (#37355422)

And you anti-Apple posters are cracking me up with your misplaced outrage, so I guess it all evens out. And no, it's not the idea of "a minimalistic design" that the court says Apple can own - just that particular one. The one they used for the iPad. The one that Samsung copied. That one.

Suck it, Android fan-idiots (-1, Flamebait)

jmcbain (1233044) | about 3 years ago | (#37354876)

Apple has done an excellent job here. Most likely all you anti-Apple zealots have never had intellectual property to protect. You probably don't have much property, period, aside from the rubber bands that tie up your ponytails. But those of us who work for a living and make money off our brains understand the importance of protecting intellectual property. I have 1 issued USPTO patent and a dozen others filed (some rejected, some pending). Each patent represents at least 9 months' research and development work. I would be seriously pissed if a competitor stole my ideas and tried to get rich by stealing them. You would be, too, if you actually thought up something new. Enjoy your neckbeards and your lifetime job as keyboard-jockey trolls.

Re:Suck it, Android fan-idiots (1)

Palpatine_li (1547707) | about 3 years ago | (#37354958)

9 months' research for a rounded rectangle. Jobs must really be a sadist to his designers that hard.

Re:Suck it, Android fan-idiots (1)

chrisj_0 (825246) | about 3 years ago | (#37354988)

you mad bro?

Re:Suck it, Android fan-idiots (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37355042)

Hey, "God" called and want his rectangular shape back. No one of the world is allowed to use it.

I really hope your USPTO is very much worthy for a patent. The Galaxy Tab doesn't break anything in common sense that is worth patent.

Re:Suck it, Android fan-idiots (1)

MightyMartian (840721) | about 3 years ago | (#37355208)

Since Apple has done precisely that before, maybe we should ask some of the people Apple nicked designs off of.

NOT "Anywhere in Europe" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37354900)

The summary (and perhaps the article, but I did not RTFA) is wrong:

Het verbod voor de hele Europese Unie werd wel ingetrokken omdat de rechtbank niet bevoegd is om een verbod op te leggen dat de landsgrenzen overstijgt. (source: Flemish (Belgian) public TV/radio [deredactie.be] )

Sorry for the Dutch, here's the translation: The prohibition for all of Europe was suspended because the court is not qualified to prohibit outside the [German] borders.

Prior art (3, Informative)

Solandri (704621) | about 3 years ago | (#37354996)

For those of you who think Samsung copied Apple merely because the Tab and iPad look similar, look again [solandri.com] .

Re:Prior art (1)

blair1q (305137) | about 3 years ago | (#37355322)

Apparently, Samsung's lawyers are not that bright.

Look at more than just the front of that frame (2)

Quila (201335) | about 3 years ago | (#37355684)

From any other angle it looks wildly different than an iPad.

http://photos.appleinsider.com/samsungvsapple.003.082411.jpg [appleinsider.com]

This is why anti-Apple sites only show you the front of the frame, to make you think the whole thing looked like an iPad. The patent does not just concern the front, but the whole design together, which must be copied in order to get an injunction. And that's what Samsung did.

You don't hear them (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37355020)

You don't hear the people who are happing they're just busy playing.

Samsung Innovation (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#37355076)

As much as I like competition, you can't help but look at this before and after pics and conclude that yes, Samsung is copying Apple design and this is after they had to change the first version since it was basically a clone of the iPad. Now whether or not that should be patentable in the first place is another topic: Samsung before and after Apple iPhone [google.com]

Re:Samsung Innovation (1)

hardtofindanick (1105361) | about 3 years ago | (#37355392)

I don't agree with the before/after images. Advances in technology and reduction in tech and hardware prices will be major factor in those designs. Do you really think Samsung made 1 inch tablets because they thought it would look nice? Once you move to touchscreens, guess what, you dont need arrow buttons on the device anymore.

Someones hand is in the cookie jar. (1)

C_Kode (102755) | about 3 years ago | (#37355224)

Based on what the judge wrote, it sounds to me like he has his hand in the Apple's cookie jar.

OS News [osnews.com] has more info on this.

Re:Someones hand is in the cookie jar. (1)

wsxyz (543068) | about 3 years ago | (#37355394)

You must be right.
German judges are so well known for their corruptibility, after all.

Stupid (1)

roman_mir (125474) | about 3 years ago | (#37355298)

This is stupid. All the Germans who want one, will buy one over the Internet or will just buy one on their next trip to the neighboring Switzerland or some other place.

What a stupid thing to do.

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