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Samsung Plans To Block the iPhone 5 In Korea

Soulskill posted more than 2 years ago | from the divvying-up-the-world's-markets dept.

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c0lo writes "In apparent retaliation to its U.S. rival's continual patent challenges in global markets, Samsung Electronics is seeking a complete ban on the sales of the upcoming Apple iPhone 5 in Korea. This is one of Samsung's several recently-opened fronts in the patent world wars: Apple was sued in France on 3 technical patents and counter-sued in Australia over 7 technical patents (after an Apple 'offensive' temporarily blocked Galaxy Tab for the Australian market)."

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Popcorn (1, Redundant)

Tomato42 (2416694) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445226)

Where's the popcorn when I need it?! Ah! Here it is! Now the show may begin!

Re:Popcorn (2)

Commontwist (2452418) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445314)

Where's the popcorn when I need it?! Ah! Here it is! Now the show may begin!

All we need is a real-time simulator showing all the patent lawsuits occurring across the planet. Kinda like the classic Wargames but with patents instead of nukes.

Re:Popcorn (2)

the_other_chewey (1119125) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445456)

You mean something like "Global Intellectual* War"?

*: needed to drop the "property" for pun's sake. Sue me.

Re:Popcorn (1)

0123456 (636235) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445492)

You mean something like "Global Intellectual* War"?

Well, Hollywood are remaking Wargames...

Re:Popcorn (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37445538)

You mean something like "Global Intellectual* War"?

*: needed to drop the "property" for pun's sake. Sue me.

Dropping the "intellectual" in stead of the "property" would have been more apt.

Re:Popcorn (1)

trum4n (982031) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445576)

Oh, the MPAA will sue you, for using the name of a movie they haven't made yet.

Re:Popcorn (4, Informative)

Synerg1y (2169962) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445864)

Currently the patent wars look like this...

http://freshdigital.info/computer/patent-wars-diagram-who-is-actually-suing-who/ [freshdigital.info]
http://www.onlinemarketing-trends.com/2011/08/state-of-techology-patent-warswinners.html [onlinemark...trends.com]

Global map coming soon, then Armageddon.

Re:Popcorn (1)

DurendalMac (736637) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445958)

Popcorn? The time for popcorn is long past. These two kids need to knock it off and just get to the cross-licensing deals already. It's an inevitable conclusion to this whole mess.

Re:Popcorn (1)

Asic Eng (193332) | more than 2 years ago | (#37446802)

Well the CEO of Samsung has already indicated that he'd rather not have lawsuits. "Apple is Samsung's biggest customer. [...] From our perspective, we are not entirely happy (about the litigations)". Looks like Apple could end this if they wanted to.

Unexpected. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37445238)

Not.

Re:Unexpected. (1)

EraserMouseMan (847479) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445778)

Go Samsung!

Landlines coming (5, Insightful)

neonv (803374) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445246)

Soon all cell phones will be banned because of their dangerous IP infringement, and the landline will return as the obviously superior technology

Re:Landlines coming (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37445344)

You can have my landline when you pry it out of my cold, dead hands.

Which, of course, is easy to actualize if you beat me to death with my vintage 1946 phone.

Re:Landlines coming (3, Funny)

nman64 (912054) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445364)

Next:

"They have phones in booths now? Finally! Now I don't have to lug this cell phone around!"

Re:Landlines coming (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37445484)

Careful, phone booths are a well known [wikipedia.org] gateway technology [wikipedia.org] to time travel.

Re:Landlines coming (2)

nman64 (912054) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445518)

Jokes aside, we might soon need time travel to find them.

Re:Landlines coming (1)

hedwards (940851) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445664)

Or worse, movie careers...

Re:Landlines coming (1)

beelsebob (529313) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445702)

Aside –the TARDIS is not a phone booth – it's a police box.

Re:Landlines coming (1)

Missing.Matter (1845576) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445770)

And guess what's inside of that police box.

Re:Landlines coming (2)

Haedrian (1676506) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445818)

A bunch of control circuits within a pocket universe?

Re:Landlines coming (1)

AvitarX (172628) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445936)

Best comment I've ever read, thanks.

Re:Landlines coming (1)

beelsebob (529313) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445888)

That would be... a miniature police station... a telephone, for the use of police officers only is one of many things inside there.

Re:Landlines coming (1)

OffaMyLawn (1885682) | more than 2 years ago | (#37446254)

More than what is on the outside.

Re:Landlines coming (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37446284)

Plus phone booths double as public restrooms! It's a two-fer!

Re:Landlines coming (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37446462)

Remember Gogrilla Mincefriend and patent two tin cans on a string!

Re:Landlines coming (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37446778)

I don't know. There may be a "prior art" issue there as well because of the technology used to transmit the data. While partially land-line, it still goes over the airwaves in the middle. Then it's back to the same morons playing the same games.

Re:Landlines coming (1)

whatme (997566) | more than 2 years ago | (#37447266)

Soon all cell phones will be banned because of their dangerous IP infringement, and the landline will return as the obviously superior technology

And to solve the EV battery problems, we can let the phone cord do double duty as an electric extension cord :D

Sleeping Giant (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37445284)

Looks like apple woke a sleeping giant that actually has real patents.

Re:Sleeping Giant (1)

nospam007 (722110) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445632)

Payback's a female dog.

Re:Sleeping Giant (-1, Troll)

bonch (38532) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445732)

What does this even mean? What "real patents?" Samsung is a known rip-off manufacturer [macenstein.com] .

Re:Sleeping Giant (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37445910)

Obvious troll is obvious.

Now you're being ridiculous (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37446000)

Are you serious? The guy is complaining about a notebook that looks *completely different than Macbooks".

They he's complaining the Windows 7 login screen has a square that he imagines to look like an apple logo. Only no one can see it but him.

But the kicker is the entire webpage looks like it was put together by a bunch of 16 year old, with all the journalistic and critical thinking skills of someone half their age.

If that's what you really think, you're just a confused kid who somehow views apple as "the good guys" and thinks of anyone else as "the bad guys".

I apologies for what I'm about to say if I'm wrong, but you seem pathetic and sad attributing these weird emotions to a huge multi-national corporation and living vicariously through the successes and failures of Apple.

You're a prime candidate for turning off the computer and getting some fresh air outside; you've completely lost your mind.

Re:Now you're being ridiculous (1)

iamhassi (659463) | more than 2 years ago | (#37446294)

Are you serious? The guy is complaining about a notebook that looks *completely different than Macbooks".

Sony is more guilty of ripping off Macbooks. [amazon.com]

Re:Now you're being ridiculous (2)

Meeni (1815694) | more than 2 years ago | (#37447042)

Are you serious? The guy is complaining about a notebook that looks *completely different than Macbooks".

Sony is more guilty of ripping off Macbooks. [amazon.com]

Sony laptops have looked like that for at least 10 years, if not more.

Re:Sleeping Giant (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37445768)

I have a suspicion you should look up F/RAND patents and what they mean.

That said, Samsung might want to look it up too.

How to innovate in a Mexican patent standoff? (4, Insightful)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445288)

You know, I remember as a kid learning about the great inventions and inventors and thinking how cool it would be to come up with the next great idea. Now when I think about coming up with the next great idea, all I can picture is how I would even *begin* to deal with all the patent lawsuits that would inevitably follow.

Maybe there is someone out there who has the grain of insight in his mind that could lead to a radical advance in propulsion that could make a manned mission to Mars practical. But if the first thing that some venture capitalist tells him is "We'd love to fund this, but there is no way we can afford to defend you in the onslaught of patent lawsuits" how is it ever going to materialize? Patent trolls and patent collectors make it harder and harder for anything that isn't mainstream and almost immediately marketable from ever making it past the concept phase.

Re:How to innovate in a Mexican patent standoff? (1)

billcopc (196330) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445450)

Simple:

Invent a method to fix the patent system. (Hint: you'll need guns, lots of guns!)

Re:How to innovate in a Mexican patent standoff? (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445480)

Or I guess you could always start your own country and refuse to recognize anyone else's patents. Of course, that would probably require lots of guns too.

Re:How to innovate in a Mexican patent standoff? (1)

AvitarX (172628) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445578)

But you still couldn't sell somewhere else.

You'd need to have huge internal demand for that to work.

Re:How to innovate in a Mexican patent standoff? (1)

Tomato42 (2416694) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445740)

If you'd make high quality stuff and cheaper than people would come to your country and buy it. (even to later sell it on eBay with an additional fee)

Re:How to innovate in a Mexican patent standoff? (4, Funny)

Nethemas the Great (909900) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445486)

Don't worry, the US has recently passed a patent reform bill. All is solved.

Re:How to innovate in a Mexican patent standoff? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37445734)

Don't worry, the US has recently passed a patent reform bill. All is solved.

Dam trolls, back under your bridge!

Re:How to innovate in a Mexican patent standoff? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37446150)

How can a dam troll get under the bridge? A dam is designed to not let water through, so there's no empty space beneath it...

Re:How to innovate in a Mexican patent standoff? (1)

Bucky24 (1943328) | more than 2 years ago | (#37447448)

I suspect parent is being snarky, not a troll.

Re:How to innovate in a Mexican patent standoff? (1)

Nikker (749551) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445510)

Unfortunately there are only 2 ways to go if you have a good idea.
  1. Get funding / startup your own company based your idea, get sued before your business cards get back from Kinkos
  2. Hire a lawyer, don't make anything but a simple numbered company with no offices or employees and shotgun legal notices to every fortune 500 company to see what sticks

Now all these companies talk about 'innovation' and I ask compared to what?

Re:How to innovate in a Mexican patent standoff? (3, Insightful)

bonch (38532) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445788)

If I only got my news from Slashdot every day, I'd probably have an alarmist worldview too, yet in spite of your dire hypotheticals, the world's technology is totally amazing right now and better than ever.

Slashdot posts so many patent stories because it generates pageviews. Always gotta have something for people to raise their fists over.

Re:How to innovate in a Mexican patent standoff? (0)

Nerdfest (867930) | more than 2 years ago | (#37446514)

technology is totally amazing right

... if you happen to be a large multi-national company.

Risk (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37445296)

does these patent wars seem like the board game Risk to anyone else?

Re:Risk (1)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445612)

No, the game that comes to mind is DefCon.

Re:Risk (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37445882)

No, the game that comes to mind is DefCon.

Is that anything like Def Jam?

Re:Risk (2)

Noughmad (1044096) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445950)

which one is Ukraine?

Let the war happen.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37445298)

.... for hopefully this will bring to light how much technology is limited due to all this patent infringement crap.

Apple Deserves This (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37445316)

That's what you get for using the courts to block your competitors.

Google's acquisition of Motorola will be the final nail Steve Jobs' coffin.

Re:Apple Deserves This (2)

Panaflex (13191) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445638)

Google's acquisition of Motorola will be the final nail Steve Jobs' coffin.

Perhaps literally... ouch!
(I hope not!)

Re:Apple Deserves This (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37445746)

Considering what a tremendous douche Steve is, we can only hope.

Re:Apple Deserves This (-1, Troll)

bonch (38532) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445808)

Yes, how dare Apple protect itself from rip-off artists [macenstein.com] . Google's acquisition of Motorola was nothing but two years of revenue down the toilet in an act of desperation.

Re:Apple Deserves This (1)

Calos (2281322) | more than 2 years ago | (#37446026)

I wish I could believe you were just trolling. But I think you might actually be serious.

You've got a problem, bud. That laptop looks hardly anything like mac books. The login logo looks nothing like an Apple. Companies have been putting their logo on that part of the frame for ages (such as my 7 year old Dell laptop). Black bezels are nothing new or unique to Apple (for example, see Sony Vaios for years).

And to your sig, Google doesn't claim to be about openness. They make some of those claims about Android. Wholly different things.

Apple should be worried (1, Insightful)

kurt555gs (309278) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445346)

I bought a Samsung Galaxy S II GT-I9100. It is superior to the iPhone in any way I could measure. Android Gingerbread is smooth and seamless and has fixed the "chunkyness" of Froyo.

I can see why Apple has gone to the darkside of law suits.

Re:Apple should be worried (0)

IrrepressibleMonkey (1045046) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445626)

I bought a Samsung Galaxy S II GT-I9100. It is superior to the iPhone in any way I could measure. Android Gingerbread is smooth and seamless and has fixed the "chunkyness" of Froyo.

I can see why Apple has gone to the darkside of law suits.

Awesome. I'm sure your comment will be modded up, but how does your insight relate to the posted article?

Re:Apple should be worried (3, Interesting)

rtb61 (674572) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445794)

The implication is when your product and your profit mark up are no longer competitive, companies often seek other legal manipulations, political corruption and, deceitful mass media to keep other products out and of course to continue to artificially inflate their profit margins.

So the big question is who will be the winner in the consumer eyes, who will be seen as the manipulative, conniving, greedy, anti-customer, corporation holding the end user hostage to the greed of corporate executives out of control.

Even if they break even, Apple loses badly, as the fashion conscious technology unconscious product any tarnishing of their marketing image will cost them hugely.

Re:Apple should be worried (1)

larry bagina (561269) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445970)

The implication is when your product and your profit mark up are no longer competitive, companies often seek other legal manipulations, political corruption and, deceitful mass media to keep other products out and of course to continue to artificially inflate their profit margins.

Were you referring to Apple? This article is about Samsung trying to block the iPhone 5.

Re:Apple should be worried (1)

Dan Ost (415913) | more than 2 years ago | (#37447370)

"Just deserts"

Or, if you prefer,

"What goes around, comes around"

The perception is that this move by Samsung is in direct response to Apple's litigation in other countries.

Re:Apple should be worried (1)

IrrepressibleMonkey (1045046) | more than 2 years ago | (#37446220)

I'm genuinely confused. The article is about Samsung's alleged decision to attempt to ban sales of a currently unreleased and unannounced model of iPhone. Kurt555gs posts about how brilliant his Samsung phone is and concludes with the statement that he "can see why Apple has gone to the darkside of law suits." What has that got to do with the article? We've done many articles on Apple's lawsuits. If you want to comment on their relevance to this development - great. But FFS, we can't just go on posting the same generic crap every time an article has the words Samsung, Apple or Android in the summary. Am I the only one who sees this? He's only got one look!

Re:Apple should be worried (1)

splatter (39844) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445658)

I agree.

I have a Iphone v. 2 wife has a Samsung galaxy as well. Once you get over the size of the thing it's very nice. The OS eye candy is very cool & the apps as expected. Long term I don't know how stable it is because I'm not a regular user of her phone, but my wife has yet to complain. Personally I'm about sick of all the browser crashes, lockups, Apple glitches & work arounds needed to make my phone "just work".

Oh and ditto for the Ipad. We got ours as a give away, and it useful & has some fun apps, but just is not ready for the mainstream If we were to buy a new tablet I'd defiantly want to consider the Samsung.

On the other hand our Samsung tv still bows me away! /rant

Re:Apple should be worried (1)

joss (1346) | more than 2 years ago | (#37447306)

My v.2 wife has an HTC desire, I wouldnt let her get an iphone. Dunno what v.1 wife has, kinda lost backwards compatability on communication there when I upgraded..

Re:Apple should be worried (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37445712)

I can see why Apple has gone to the darkside of law suits.

You do realize this is a story about Samsung planning litigation against Apple, not the other way around? But, hey, why let facts get in the way, right?

Re:Apple should be worried (1)

shutdown -p now (807394) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445938)

You do realize this is a story about Samsung planning litigation against Apple, not the other way around?

It is fairly obvious that Samsung is suing Apple in retaliation for Apple suing Samsung, and actually delivering some significant damage to them (blocking sales of their product). SGS2 was one of the phones which Apple claims to be infringing on their iPhone design patents.

Re:Apple should be worried (-1, Troll)

bonch (38532) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445858)

I can see why Apple has gone to the darkside of law suits.

Because Samsung is ripping them off. Why is it so hard for Slashdotters to acknowledge that, yes, there are valid patent lawsuits and, yes, there are Asian companies that do nothing but clone American products [macenstein.com] ?

Is it because Apple is one of Google's competitors? Are we supposed to automatically side with Google on everything?

Re:Apple should be worried (1)

shutdown -p now (807394) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445976)

It is because Samsung's (no idea why you drag Google into this) products are actually better than Apple's on practically all counts, and claims of their similarity are quite exaggerated - no sane person would confuse one for another.

(I own SGS2; my previous phone was iPhone 4)

Re:Apple should be worried (1)

IrrepressibleMonkey (1045046) | more than 2 years ago | (#37446278)

claims of their similarity are quite exaggerated - no sane person would confuse one for another.

No true Scotsman, eh? Bravo.

Re:Apple should be worried (1)

TheTrueScotsman (1191887) | more than 2 years ago | (#37446522)

I have never confused a Samsung product with an Apple product; only a true idiot (or a German judge - same thing) would.

Re:Apple should be worried (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37446978)

Because Samsung is not ripping-off Apple. The fact is, there is a lot of non-Apple prior art for both the Iphone and the Ipad.

The Iphone looks just like the LG Prada (which was winning design awards months before the Iphone was first announced): http://mobile.engadget.com/2006/12/15/the-lg-ke850-touchable-chocolate/ Note that this article is dated before the first Iphone was announced.

The Ipad looks like about a zillion other previous touchscreen (and non-touchscreen) devices. Here's the Knight-Ridder concept tablet from 1994 (16 years before the Ipad): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBEtPQDQNcI

Here's the Crunchpad prototype and final design, from six months before the Ipad was first announced: http://techcrunch.com/2009/06/03/crunchpad-the-launch-prototype/

Here's a photo of the Samsung picture frame from 2006, compared with the Ipad from 2010 (the Ipad appeared four years after the Samsung): http://images.dailytech.com/nimage/21773_Samsung_Picture_Frame_v_iPad.png

So, if anyone is copying anybody, it is Apple who is copying Samsung, Knight-Ridder, Techcrunch, and LG.

Sorry fanboys.

Re:Apple should be worried (1)

toriver (11308) | more than 2 years ago | (#37446888)

So I guess since Samsung sue Apple over the iPhone 5 they know it is superior to the S II as well then? *preorders*

Capitalism is becoming a judged sport (5, Insightful)

timeOday (582209) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445374)

There are sports like running where the rules are simple and determining the winner is simple, perhaps even automated. Then there are judged sports like gymnastics and ice skating where winning boils down to subjectivity.

The world economy is increasingly based on intellectual property, which is not governed by the physical laws of production capacity and unit cost. Instead intellectual property is government by subjective judgements about who deserves how much of the credit. These judgements are formalized in patent and copyright law, but they still come down to interpretation and value judgement. There is no firm ground to stand on.

NOT Capitalism (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37446012)

You are 100% correct, except that you are describing presisely what capitalism is NOT. The first and foremost prerequisite of capitalism is voluntary association. Capitalism is founded on the lack of coercion (i.e. government interference) in the market, not the presence of it.

Remember that we are talking about the most expensive, most powerful government in world history. Again, capitalism is defined by the lack of government, not the presence of it. Theoretically, the purest form of capitalism is anarchy (the complete lack of government and its only tool, the special right to employ coercion as a business model).

Surely, Koreans invented iPhone (1)

lecheiron (2441744) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445380)

Koreans are known to claim [fill in this blank] originates from Korea. http://koreasparkling.wordpress.com/ [wordpress.com]

Korean invented Chinese characters (1)

lecheiron (2441744) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445412)

Re:Korean invented Chinese characters (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37445912)

Why would they care about that? The Korean Alphabet [wikipedia.org] completely pwns the Chinese character system.

Re:Surely, Koreans invented iPhone (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37446344)

At the risk of taking a silly site too seriously, Koreans (well some of them) do at the very least focus on claiming originality about past exploits not current tech.

Re:Surely, Koreans invented iPhone (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37446852)

A 10 minute survey shows that blog to be Chinese anti-Korean propaganda. I'm sure Koreans say nutty stuff, but that's definitely a bad source.

Don't hate the player, hate the game (3, Insightful)

xRelisH (647464) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445462)

Seriously, people are quick to jump on companies that are doing the suing, but the problem at heart is that there needs to be some serious patent reform. Until then, companies will sue for whatever ridiculous reason there might be if it leads to happier shareholders.

Re:Don't hate the player, hate the game (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37445876)

Hey, I'm not trying to say two wrongs make a right, but Apple totally deserves this.

Re:Don't hate the player, hate the game (1)

denis-The-menace (471988) | more than 2 years ago | (#37446034)

It won't happen until this Imaginary Property theatre goes on entertainment news shows [wikipedia.org]

Nobody watches/reads the news. It's all the same filtered stuff.
And anybody who wants real news has to surf for it b/c it's censored.

Re:Don't hate the player, hate the game (1)

Sponge Bath (413667) | more than 2 years ago | (#37446088)

A lot of the major "players" helped make the "game" the nightmare of litigation and stifled innovation that it is today.

Re:Don't hate the player, hate the game (1)

Yvanhoe (564877) | more than 2 years ago | (#37446188)

I'll hate the game and the company that caused the patent cold war to escalate to the global patent war.

Hey... (1)

Haedrian (1676506) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445478)

The only people to suffer are the consumers right...

Who cares about those.

Possible explanation why.. (1)

lefke123 (2446554) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445524)

..Apple is going to great lengths, and why Samsung should bite back harder:
http://betanews.com/2011/09/18/iphone-5-has-a-big-problem [betanews.com]
Spoiler: might be to draw attention from it's late iPhone5 release cycle.

Guaranteed win! (0)

Guidii (686867) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445532)

...for all the lawyers involved.

Real Weapons (1)

Nethemas the Great (909900) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445644)

I'm rather curious as to when sci-fi will become fulfilled prophecy as these companies go to war with real weapons.

Re:Real Weapons (1)

Tomato42 (2416694) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445824)

Showdowns between C*Os and boards of directors? take-all-my-money.jpg

Though I'm quite sure that it will be regular employees only, even not lawyers.

Re:Real Weapons (1)

cmv1087 (2426970) | more than 2 years ago | (#37445826)

This was my first thought. "I wonder how much longer until we have real corporate wars." We're already close enough with the industrial-military complex and the fact that corporations basically buy their own Congressmen (as they have been since the 1800s). I think the only thing that really stops them is that governments still have slightly more power than the major corporations.

Re:Real Weapons (1)

cpscotti (1032676) | more than 2 years ago | (#37446804)

And that "slightly more power than major corporations" is so just because Politicians are treacherous bastards and there's always the other company around the corner to get friends with..

The seed of patent reform with any luck... (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37445652)

Hopefully, with the current thermonuclear melt down going on between the "big boys" over all those bogus patents, the people holding those patents will come to realize that bogus patents cause more trouble than they are worth (literally). Maybe then the big boys will get on the bandwagon to eliminate bogus patents from the system.

By "bogus" I mean patents that are trying to claim that "one click checkout" is a novel, cutting edge technology (or using gestures to unlock a smart phone, or the colors used for an icon, or any of that trivial nonsense that have achieved the status of an 'novel invention' with the patent office).

Of course, in the meantime, the lawyers are laughing all the way to the bank, which is always the problem because now we want to change a legal concept which serves the needs of the owners of the legal system.

Not that big a hit to Apple (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37445654)

In Korea, only old people use the iPhone 5.

Could the patent system collapse under its weight? (2)

excelsior_gr (969383) | more than 2 years ago | (#37446146)

Could it be that the patent system is biting the technology companies, that they themselves brought it into existence and nourished it, in the ass? And, if yes, would they ever realize it?

I work for a fairly large chemical company and we stopped filing for patents. Although the purpose of a patent is to protect the inventor, it inevitably makes the idea accessible by the competition. Since all chemical factories are private grounds protected by fences and guards, we cannot check whether our competitors have actually stolen our patented inventions (and, of course, nor can they). Besides, we have better stuff to do than going through all production facilities in China to check every damn apparatus to see whether we should file a lawsuit or not.

So there you have it. No patents, no trouble. Just a big ol' fence and LOTS of security (both physical and IT). We also stopped publishing our research findings to conferences and journals and we demand a confidentiality agreement from every university that sends students to work for us.

Re:Could the patent system collapse under its weig (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37446260)

Not at all. It's the legal profession, driven by the deluge of annual legal graduates in the USA that's turning this into the mess. The USPO merely rubber stamps forms, and state that any issues have to be dealt with in the court system. Legal people want lots or very highly paid work, so they engineer all these conflicts to server their own needs, not that of the corporation they're supposedly work for.

this is a mess (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37446282)

Mom: what are you going to study at college?
Son: Law
Mom: Why!?
Son: I want to work in IT

Stop Importing Samsung Products To The US (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37446308)

And make Apple start using more U.S. employees to manufacture their products.

To get the U.S. economy back on track, it's going to be necessary to put the brakes on the importation of goods manufactured by companies taking wholly unmoderated advantage of wage disparities between countries to turn profits.

Just as legislation of minimum gasoline efficiency of vehicles sold in the U.S. is needed, so too do we need to legislate minimum percentage of wages paid to domestic manufacturing employees to permit sale of certain goods in the U.S.

Samsung owns mobile telecommunications? (1)

iamhassi (659463) | more than 2 years ago | (#37446406)

FTFA: [koreatimes.co.kr]
``For as long as Apple does not drop mobile telecommunications functions, it would be impossible for it to sell its i-branded products without using our patents. We will stick to a strong stance against Apple during the lingering legal fights.’’

Samsung owns mobile telecommunications? So every cellphone infringes? Wow, how'd they get that patent?

Re:Samsung owns mobile telecommunications? (1)

Ogive17 (691899) | more than 2 years ago | (#37446738)

Probably the same way Apple got one on a rectangular, touchscreen device.
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