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iPhone 4S Pre-Orders Sell Out

timothy posted more than 2 years ago | from the it-was-a-black-friday dept.

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Perhaps to no one's surprise, the just-announced iPhone 4S has been been leaping off the shelves ... in advance of it ever hitting shelves at all. In fact, as reported by numerous sources (here's the WSJ's version), the company's pre-launch inventory has all been sold — and they only started taking the orders on Friday.

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Perhaps to one's surprise? (3, Insightful)

asto21 (1797450) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655296)

WTF are you even talking about? iProducts have been selling out for a while now. How is this news?

Re:Perhaps to one's surprise? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37655346)

Perhaps to one's surprise?

Not "one's" surprise; he's referring to "one one", the famous Slashdot troll who mocked the recently announced iPhone upgrade as "disappointing".

Re:Perhaps to one's surprise? (1)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655392)

well, it is a surprise of sorts that they still haven't figured out how to make enough of them for the launch - being that the launch day is just a day they chose on a calendar at their leisure.

but how much was the pre launch inventory? like, in actual units. I'm sure there's plenty of places taking pre-orders still. and the stack at at&t's product database is maybe different than the one at apple stores..

Re:Perhaps to one's surprise? (1, Insightful)

JustOK (667959) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655474)

well, it is a surprise of sorts that they still haven't figured out how to make enough of them for the launch - being that the launch day is just a day they chose on a calendar at their leisure.

uh, marketing...if they fulfilled everyone's desire at first, there would be no one left. Leaving some wanting will also tend to increase the number of people wanting it, up to a point

Re:Perhaps to one's surprise? (2)

teg (97890) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655634)

well, it is a surprise of sorts that they still haven't figured out how to make enough of them for the launch - being that the launch day is just a day they chose on a calendar at their leisure.

Why is that a surprise? Waiting half a year while building an inventory you may sell (or not, if you release a lemon) makes much less sense than selling them as soon as you make them. Your cashflow is better and your risk smaller. Also, production is likely less optimal now than it will be in 9 months... both for the phone, and its parts.

Re:Perhaps to one's surprise? (4, Insightful)

Macrat (638047) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655524)

It's a surprise to all those people who wrote articles saying that few people would by the silly "upgraded" iPhone 4S and would wait for the "revolutionary" iPhone 5.

Re:Perhaps to one's surprise? (5, Insightful)

Pieroxy (222434) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655622)

These people are stupid, and everyone knows it, maybe except themselves. The iPhone is a good platform and people having one generally like sticking with it. There is such a thing as being "good enough".

My iPhone 3GS is showing signs of fatigue and I'm getting a 4S whenever I'll be able to get my hands on one. Because I like it. Because I like to tinker with stuff and my phone is not one of this stuff - mostly because of a lack of free time.

So I tinker with my desktop, my servers in my 45U bay in my garage. And I have an iPhone. And I like it. Enough to buy a new one.

Re:Perhaps to one's surprise? (0)

donstenk (74880) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655756)

Isn't this the version where they fixed the antenna so it can be used without a bumper case?

Re:Perhaps to one's surprise? (1)

klui (457783) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655698)

My, what short memories people have. I admit it is too early to tell whether the 4S will be a success but many of the coverage I've heard or read expressed what a let down the introduction was.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/05/us-apple-asia-idUSTRE7940JQ20111005 [reuters.com]

Rival smartphone makers could exploit a rare letdown by Apple in the launch of its new iPhone 4S model, which failed to wow fans, and grab a bigger share of the most lucrative part of the phone market.

http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/breakout/apple-iphone-4s-opens-door-competitors-analyst-210516885.html [yahoo.com]

"It's certainly a disappointment given the fact that people were looking for a new iteration to be number 5 in this case," says David Garrity, principal at GVA Research.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204524604576610991978907616.html [wsj.com]

"Underwhelming is the word that hit me," said Endpoint Technologies Associates analyst Roger Kay.

The letdown was echoed in the early performance of Apple's shares, which fell as much as 5% Tuesday and finished down 0.6% at $372.50 at 4 p.m. trading even as the broader market rose.

Re:Perhaps to one's surprise? (5, Insightful)

amiga3D (567632) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655808)

This isn't the first time that industry "analysts" talked down an apple product that promptly flew off the shelves. It's pretty obvious that these guys' articles are not consulted by the customers that want these products. I still remember the dozens of articles I read about how the iPad would never sell. The dozens of articles about how zune would crush the iPod, etc., etc., etc. I read industry pundits' articles because I'm curious and like to hear peoples' opinions but I take them all with a full shaker of salt. Most of them don't really have a clue.

Re:Perhaps to one's surprise? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37656010)

because now Apple iNVENTED the sellout of *pre-orders*!

Not possible (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37655298)

analysts have told us that the iPhone 4S is the beginning of the end and nobody will buy one and that the initial reaction is muted since it's just an iPhone 4 (which is 18 months old!) with slightly better specs.

Re:Not possible (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37655306)

I'm waiting for the limited ed. steve jobs memorial ones.

Consumer Tools (0, Troll)

masternerdguy (2468142) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655324)

I'll buy anything if its shiny and made by apple.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BnLbv6QYcA [youtube.com]

Re:Consumer Tools (1)

shoehornjob (1632387) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655590)

I think you mean Consumer Trolls.

Have mobile providers have faked a sell out ? (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37655334)

I think this is either fake or at the very least exaggerated.
I've spoken to dozens of people in my office and they all say they haven't placed a pre-order and are not interested in the 4S at all.

I wouldn't put it past the carriers to fake a sell out (which would be incredibly easy to do).

Don't get me wrong the 4S has its good points, but its just to little to late.

So yea, i wouldn't put it past apple and/or the carriers to simply fake a sell out. I bet they have done it before too.

Re:Have mobile providers have faked a sell out ? (1, Troll)

somersault (912633) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655354)

Wow.. dozens of people..? Crazy! I agree, there can't be enough other people left in the world to buy a small set of new iPhones..

I love America (2)

xstonedogx (814876) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655602)

You're very clever, young man, very clever. But it's conspiracies all the way down!

Re:Have mobile providers have faked a sell out ? (2, Insightful)

Lunix Nutcase (1092239) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655490)

I've spoken to dozens of people in my office and they all say they haven't placed a pre-order and are not interested in the 4S at all.

Wow...that's like....EVERYONE!

Re:Have mobile providers have faked a sell out ? (1, Funny)

Quiet_Desperation (858215) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655672)

I have spoken to dozens of people...

Translation: "I talked to my buddies XxxGamerDoodxxX and StarCraftStud22389, and we unanimous in our worldly judgement."

Steve Jobs - Marketing Genius (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37655338)

Release iPhone 4S... die the next day

Marketing genius beyond the grave!

Re:Steve Jobs - Marketing Genius (1)

Macrat (638047) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655554)

Release iPhone 4S... die the next day

Well, someone had to fall on their sword for not having the redesigned iPhone 5 with LTE support ready for this year.

Re:Steve Jobs - Marketing Genius (1)

gstrickler (920733) | more than 2 years ago | (#37656064)

As soon as someone releases an LTE chipset that doesn't kill battery life, and LTE becomes widely available, it'll be in the next iPhone. Right now, LTE would raise the cost of the phone, shorten the battery life, and only benefit a small percentage of the buyers.

LTE Deployment map [ltemaps.org] , most of the world doesn't even have any LTE deployment. North America, parts of Europe, southeast Asia, Japan, Saudi Arabia, and Uzebekistan are the only current deployments, and most of those offer only spotty coverage.
AT&T is claiming [att.com] "LTE planned for up to 15 cities by the end of 2011"
Verizon has wider LTE coverage, [verizonwireless.com] but it's nowhere near nationwide and won't be for several more years.
Sprint's LTE coverage [sprint.com] is in a similar situation.

By the time that LTE is actually available to a sizable percentage of buyers, it'll be time to upgrade the phone anyway. And HSDPA+ @ 14.4Mbps is fast enough for most users in the meantime.

One thing Apple understands that most competitors (and critics) don't is that most users care about usability, not about specifications. Battery life is more important to most users than somewhat faster downloads (that are only available to a small percentage of users anyway). Only the small percentage of technically savvy users care about specs (and those users and critics are the same ones who would complain about the lack of 4G coverage if it did include LTE).

Who is "one one"? (4, Insightful)

afabbro (33948) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655352)

Perhaps to one one's surprise

Slashdot, please get rid of rubbish like 'timothy' and hire editors.

Re:Who is "one one"? (3, Insightful)

drmitch (1065012) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655420)

"has been been"

Re:Who is "one one"? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37655434)

I wonder if you're that big of an ass when not hiding behind the anonymity of the Internet.

Re:Who is "one one"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37655468)

Back atcha, Timmy, you old queen.

Re:Who is "one one"? (3, Insightful)

St.Creed (853824) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655486)

Bonus points for ironic use of anonymous cowards anonimity to post this.

Re:Who is "one one"? (-1, Offtopic)

BitHive (578094) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655476)

I made one one in my tu-tu! --timothy

Fuck! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37655356)

GOD DAMN I HATE APPLE!

Fuck! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37655410)

GOD DAMN I HATE HATERBOYS USING ALL CAPS-LOCK!

Obvious troll is obvious.
Go, kill yourself and never come back.

Sense of entitlement (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37655432)

GOD DAMN I HATE APPLE!

Boo Hoo! Sob. I hate Apple too and I have a HUGE sense of entitlement! I am ENTITLED not to ever see any news about Apple and to have everyone else agree with me! Everyone who disagrees is a (*sob* *sob*) fanboi!

Re:Fuck! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37655920)

GOD DAMN I HATE Anonymous Coward because he NEVER says anything worth reading or replying to.

iPhone 4S (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37655358)

iPhone 4S aka (iPhone 4 Suckers...)

They final fixed the "You're holding it wrong" antenna issue (people will pay for the upgrade) and and still no 4G.

"Apple today unveiled the iPhone 4S, which features a modest upgrade over the iPhone 4." http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20115460-37/apple-unveils-iphone-4s/#ixzz1aJKc6lyD [cnet.com]

Maybe on purpose? (3, Insightful)

LynnwoodRooster (966895) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655360)

Has anyone thought that maybe Apple purposefully restricts inventory at release, thereby driving demand faster to "get in first", and also to build hype about how it sells out? Knowing what is coming, and that you'll sell millions per month after initial release, it shouldn't be such a big logistical issue to make 10 million for initial release, versus 7 million. But then, you lose the power of the marketing line "we've sold out already!" to continue driving demand...

Re:Maybe on purpose? (4, Insightful)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655404)

Or maybe is a complicated dance between getting the manufacturer to make x million in a certain time without any significant leakage of the product's specks or design. While Apple kept the idea of a modestly improved iPhone 4 pretty close to the chest (everybody was yapping about the magical iPhone 5 and a 'cheap' iPhone), they can't do it forever. They had to package and ship everything somewhere. They had to organize the event. Maybe they would have liked x + y million but just settled on what they could get.

Don't forget, these are complex little devices and not all that easy to manufacture in quantity.

Really no need to get all wrapped up in your tin foil - it works better without all the creases anyway.

Re:Maybe on purpose? (1, Insightful)

Mashiki (184564) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655498)

Nah. The fastest way to create artificial demand is to restrict the supply in your initial production run. In turn you're creating an artificial demand, and causing people to think that it's a very desirable product. This is marketing and economics 101 stuff.

Re:Maybe on purpose? (3, Insightful)

mrbrown1602 (536940) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655538)

Or you could manufacture hundreds of thousands, or perhaps even millions of them, ship them to stores, and not sell more than a few hundred or thousand (Samsung? HP?).

Re:Maybe on purpose? (1)

iamhassi (659463) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655940)

Nah. The fastest way to create artificial demand is to restrict the supply in your initial production run. In turn you're creating an artificial demand, and causing people to think that it's a very desirable product. This is marketing and economics 101 stuff.

that would be true if a new iPhone didn't come out every year, so some people will hear "OH it sold out? Ok, I'll just wait a few months until the next iPhone"

iPhones usually come out in July, so we're only 9 months away from the iPhone 5.

Re:Maybe on purpose? (1)

peted56 (1842988) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655572)

Hard to manufacture???? Factories churn them out by the million, not so hard if you have a factory me thinks.

Re:Maybe on purpose? (2)

Moridineas (213502) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655626)

While Apple kept the idea of a modestly improved iPhone 4 pretty close to the chest (everybody was yapping about the magical iPhone 5 and a 'cheap' iPhone), they can't do it forever.

That's actually not true in the slightest. The rumor sites had universally nixed the idea of an iPhone5 by the time of the announcements (or at least said, it's possible that there will be an iPhone5, but we have absolutely no evidence for it at all). The 'cheap' iPhone is the 8gb iphone4 (and the 'free' 3gs). Siri/personal assistant feature had been leaked. Upgraded camera had been leaked. I don't think there was a single unanticipated thing in the announcement beyond the odd "mail a postcard" feature and the existence of a "Where are my Friends?" app.

Re:Maybe on purpose? (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655708)

The rumor sites had universally nixed the idea of an iPhone5 by the time of the announcements (or at least said, it's possible that there will be an iPhone5, but we have absolutely no evidence for it at all).

Yep, in the last several weeks of the year long run up to the launch. Before that rumors about the magical iPhone 5 were rampant.

Of course, the whole idea about people getting so wound up about the launch of another cell phone that they would complain about it for an entire year is pretty weird, but that's what happened.

Re:Maybe on purpose? (1)

Moridineas (213502) | more than 2 years ago | (#37656042)

Yeah sure, people can make up rumors all the time. Making up rumors is not the same as leaking or receiving leaked information. I could predict a followup to the Samsung Galaxy SIII and eventually I'll probably be right! Even a broken clock--that old thing.

The point is, Apple did not successfully control leaks of information regarding the phone and software that was actually announced.

Re:Maybe on purpose? (1)

iamhassi (659463) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655982)

I don't think there was a single unanticipated thing in the announcement beyond the odd "mail a postcard" feature and the existence of a "Where are my Friends?" app.

I love how you say "leaked" as if they knew. Many "leaked" larger screens and 4G and that didn't happen. [thetechlabs.com] Many said "no home button" and no 64gb since everything is "in the cloud" [iphonestuffs4u.com] but we still have the home button and a 64gb model. (more no 64gb rumors) [todaysiphone.com]

Rumors are just that, rumors. Nothing was "leaked", reporters just threw cards up in the air and predicted some would land face up... and they were right!

Re:Maybe on purpose? (1)

Moridineas (213502) | more than 2 years ago | (#37656036)

You're reading the wrong sites :-P

The venerable and largely reliable site is macrumors.com. 9to5mac is newer but has a good record as well. They almost always cover the same things.

Reading the reliable sites, just about everything -- including the name 4s! -- was indeed leaked correctly. The only information about the 5 came from 3rd parties--case designers. Information about the 4s allegedy came from closer sources. This includes photographs of chips, ports, wiring, etc. False rumors are what people make up that aren't reliable. Leaks are based on actual information that isn't made up. Is everything that was predicted -- even on macrumors -- correct? Of course not! They would be the first to say that. The point is, there were actual leaks, as opposed to just rampant speculation. Apple did not control any information about the iphone 4s.

Read the macrumors roundup to see what I mean http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1238595 [macrumors.com]

Re:Maybe on purpose? (1)

houghi (78078) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655736)

Or maybe it isn't OR/OR but they do both at the same time.

Re:Maybe on purpose? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37655414)

And why not? Better to sell out than to make so many that you end up dumping off excess inventory in a landfill.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_video_game_burial

Re:Maybe on purpose? (1)

Macrat (638047) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655568)

And why not? Better to sell out than to make so many that you end up dumping off excess inventory in a landfill.

Somewhere there is a new island made of Microsoft Kin and Zune.

Re:Maybe on purpose? (1)

Xugumad (39311) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655444)

I certainly would, given how often anything that doesn't sell out at pre-order is apparently a failure :(

Re:Maybe on purpose? (1)

thetoadwarrior (1268702) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655448)

They certainly wouldn't be the first or last company to that. But until they give all the numbers it will be hard to say. They've only sid AT&T has sold 200,000 in the first 12 hours which isn't too bad especially considering that if you listened to the internet as it made it out the 4S was the worst thing ever and was the end of the iphone.

Re:Maybe on purpose? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37655484)

Gosh. At each and every Apple product release that same baseless nonsense bullshit is repeated over and over again.
Don't forget your tin-foil hat.

Just accept the more logical explanation that Apple stuff just sells well. That's all.
Occam's razor. Ever heard of it?

Re:Maybe on purpose? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37655542)

Absolutely not. Being "sold out" of inventory equates to losing sales. The customer will buy something else instead of the product he came for when he arrived at the store.

Re:Maybe on purpose? (1)

spire3661 (1038968) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655618)

It equates to SOME lost sales, but also generates buzz. Its not zero-sum.

Re:Maybe on purpose? (5, Insightful)

aiken_d (127097) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655582)

Ah, the old "scarcity conspiracy" theory. It wouldn't be Slashdot without it. It's like the flat-earth version of marketing.

Apple may know that they are going to sell out, but I guarantee you there is no way in hell that they are better off selling fewer phones than they would be selling more. Maybe someone, somewhere who wouldn't have otherwise bought an iPhone in January will now do so after remembering a shortage and thinking that signals a superior product. But thousands of times more people (which is to say, thousands of people) will go to a store with the intent of buying an iPhone and end up buying something else when their first choice isn't available. And those are customers Apple will lose for at least a year.

Apple would rather satisfy every drop of demand at launch. Because they've decided to launch knowing they can't doesn't mean they want shortages, it just means they're better off launching today with shortages than in November (or December) with enough stock.

Re:Maybe on purpose? (1)

LucidBeast (601749) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655646)

Why wouldn't they do that if they can?

Re:Maybe on purpose? (1)

gnasher719 (869701) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655838)

Has anyone thought that maybe Apple purposefully restricts inventory at release, thereby driving demand faster to "get in first", and also to build hype about how it sells out?

Yes, there is always a whole bunch of people with conspiracy theories. You sell more buy selling stuff than by not selling stuff.

Re:Maybe on purpose? (1)

Alomex (148003) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655866)

Apple was heavily rumored to have hired people to stand in line during the first releases of the iPhone to increase the hype.

The Beatles and other rock bands have admitted to paying some of the more hysterical screaming fans often shown on TV.

RIP Steve Jobs (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37655362)

The iPhone 4S will remain a tribute to Steve Jobs and the lasting impact he has left on the tech community.

"I wanted to show support and help to knock initial sales out of the ballpark," said David Michael, 46, who stayed up until 2:15 a.m. attempting to order a white iPhone 4S.

Now if that's not a giddy schoolboy of a fan child I don't know what is. Yes, I want to buy this product to show my support for the egotistical jackass known as Steve Jobs, the task master, the guy who claimed he was sterile to disown his daughter, the guy who oversaw Apple's philanthropic efforts of $0/annum. Yes, let's all get a good cry out.

There, I feel better already.David Michael, take that lame iPhone 4S, turn it sideways (carefully avoiding bridging the air gap in the antenna), and shove it right up your asshole.

Re:RIP Steve Jobs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37655500)

Depends which Steve Jobs you are talking about. Steve jobs is like Metallica, where there was an "Awesome" era, and a "turbosuck" era.

Jobs in the Apple // and Mac era was awesome. Jobs in the iMac era was great.

Post iPhone Jobs was "meh". Locked down devices, anti-consumer issues, "innovation through litigation". Not to mention the fact that Apple's primary manufacturing partner has had a lot of controversy.

Oh the fact he and his company donated $0.00 to any cause or charity. Even the robber barons and owners of Standard Oil who treated their employees worse than cockroaches, like Frick and Carnegie left behind concert halls, universities, and other forms of fine arts. What has Jobs left with his immense riches other than his products? From what I know, absolutely nothing.

Do you see an "Apple Hall", or a "Apple University"? Nope. Do you see an Apple Foundation donating for shows on PBS, or offering fine art scholarships? Nope.

Re:RIP Steve Jobs (0)

spire3661 (1038968) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655648)

Do you not understand that corporate philanthropy is a tax dodge or marketing expenditure, NOTHING MORE. Its not done to be nice, but to enhance the bottom line. Anything else and you have shareholders suing you.

Re:RIP Steve Jobs (1)

RocketRabbit (830691) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655546)

Steve Jobs was buried with the first nickel he ever made.

Re:RIP Steve Jobs (1)

peted56 (1842988) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655628)

Yes this does make me somewhat sad.

Re:RIP Steve Jobs (1)

LucidBeast (601749) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655658)

The iPhone 4S will remain a tribute to Steve Jobs and the lasting impact he has left on the tech community.

Lasting impact in tech world? Do we count it in weeks or months?

Re:RIP Steve Jobs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37655740)

I think we count in negatives. The entire me-too iPhone fad placed us years behind schedule software wise.

Re:RIP Steve Jobs (1, Insightful)

xstonedogx (814876) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655662)

As if there weren't enough reasons to not watch G4 they added a black band with "SJ" over their logo.

I'm tired of the pretense. He was a man. He had admirable qualities. He had some not so admirable qualities. He's dead now. You didn't know him. You probably never even met him. He's been dead for days. The time for you to use his death to make yourself look good to others is over. (This is not directed at the parent - I mean the general 'you'.)

Let him rest. Let his family mourn in peace.

Re:RIP Steve Jobs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37655774)

I see only one jackass here : you. The giddy schoolgirl of a hate child.

Shortage vs. Price (3)

Ichijo (607641) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655372)

If they had sold them on eBay, they wouldn't have run out.

No worries....they'll make more (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37655402)

I've never really understood the need to have one on the first day, especially if you already have a handset.

Re:No worries....they'll make more (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37655738)

It is for the emotionally unstable types who need something they can "lord" over someone else like they're still in grade school, Cartman comes to mind when attempting to explain this type of behaviour. We have this 42 year old that works for us that has everything Mac and is always bragging about how much better all his toys are then those the company provides then bitches when he can't get his calendar to sync right with our Exchange server, a problem no one else in the office has, wasn't that shit just supposed to work like all the ads said? The guy also throws temper tantrums and stomps out of meetings when things don't go the way he wants. He's been unanimously voted "most likely to go postal" But on the positive side his cube is fastidiously tidy, insane or not he keeps his working space very clean and organized.

Nice to have a market that will buy anything (-1, Troll)

walterbyrd (182728) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655426)

If Steve Jobs was selling his used toilet paper, Apple fans would have been buying it.

Why not macs? (1)

unixisc (2429386) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655478)

In that case, how come there ain't as many Mac owners as there are iPad, iPhone and iPod owners?

Re:Nice to have a market that will buy anything (1)

vlm (69642) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655518)

If Steve Jobs was selling his used toilet paper, Apple fans would have been buying it.

You may have missed the news, but he's dead now.

His death was the first thing I thought of, that there's gonna be a 4S-2 released momentarily with one of his inspirational quotes or maybe a silhouette laseretched into the back of the phone. Or a pic of SJ as the default background or whatever.

I suspect SJ memorial goods (engraved iphone cases, etc) will flood DX and ebay real soon now...

Re:Nice to have a market that will buy anything (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37655560)

Yeah they'll be able to commercialize on his death for quite awhile. but they did lose their God and the cancer that is apple will pass like steve.

Re:Nice to have a market that will buy anything (1)

Duradin (1261418) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655534)

Same for RMS and what falls out of his beard with the hater crowd.

Re:Nice to have a market that will buy anything (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37655704)

Jobs doesn't use toilet paper. He's dead Jim.

I'd rather overpay for Apple products that get a bunch of garbage free software from clueless hacks who can barely program.

Not Surprised (2)

Pirow (777891) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655440)

I currently work in a call centre for a mobile operator that has around 45% of the UKs iPhone customers (should be easy enough to work out who!), I've been speaking to people on a daily basis for months who have enquired about pre-ordering whatever the next iPhone turned out to be. The stats are a big anti-climax, but since the announcement I've been speaking to plenty of people who are upset that we're not taking pre-orders and are threatening to go to the competition.

Sure the majority of tech savvy people are disappointed with the 4S announcement and were expecting something more, but the majority of iPhone users I've spoken to about it (taking at least 30 calls a day) want one and are returning orders or putting off upgrading in the hopes of getting one, my colleagues have been experiencing the same.

The average slashdot user wont see what the big deal about the 4S is, most of our friends and colleagues wont either, but your average consumer who's been waiting for the latest iGadget is still going to lap it up, it's new, it's shiny, it's expensive and it's Apple so it MUST be the best!

Re:Not Surprised (1)

jimicus (737525) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655496)

I understand O2 stores are officially offering the iPhone "for existing customers" on 14 October. Does this mean new customers will be turned away in store? Or have you guys not been told?

Re:Not Surprised (2)

Pirow (777891) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655598)

Yeah, pretty much although it wont be hard to get around (just find somebody with an unregistered PAYG SIM that's been used at least a month ago). Until stock settles down it'll be for existing customers only, existing customers are called as anybody who has had an O2 phone, dongle or home broadband for at least month before the 4th of October.

Re:Not Surprised (1)

jimicus (737525) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655836)

Heh, I've been a customer for years but I'm really unhappy with my current phone. Assuming the stock's there (does anyone at O2 even have the remotest idea how long stock is likely to last in their average store?), I assume I'll be ok to march in and say "Hi. I'm still on contract and I want to buy that contract out here and now and buy an iPhone 4S"?

Re:Not Surprised (1)

Pirow (777891) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655900)

No clue what the stock will be like to be honest, I'm just glad that I'm mainly in a 2nd line role as I'll be working on Friday which wont be much fun! Assuming there's stock they'll have no issue buying your contract out, taking out a new contract, buying one outright or going for a fast track upgrade (if you're tariff's over £40 you can buy out what's left minus the 20% and minus VAT, if not you can change your tariff and have it come into effect next day if it'll work out cheaper that way).
Unless you already have an iPhone or have a lot of purchases on iTunes I'd save some money and go for the Samsung Galaxy SII which is pretty similar spec.

Re:Not Surprised (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37655832)

I agree. It's kind of a memorial to Steve also. Also it's a tribute to his marketing savvy that this would happen.

If you look at the technical specs it is quite an improvement. The 4g networks have not fully deployed
or stabilized especially, Sprint's conversion to LTE. The wimax chipset is too large for the present phone
and Apple certainly pleased all the accessory case makers with this one.

iCame, iCopied, iCroaked. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37655456)

Not in heaven yet, apparently he wants royalties from St Peter from the shape of the corners of his pearly gates.

No, this is just a big mistake - Apple meant to say "Steve Jobs is dead upset there's no iPhone5" but they were holding it wrong when they called.

Everyone else sees their life flash before them when they die, but Steve Jobs didn't support that.

"The fanbois won't mind getting some half assed update rather than the iPhone5 - I'll bet my life on that."

iZombie - "just one more thing..."

Bill Gates "told you PC would kill all my competion in the end" (pancreatic cancer).

10 years ago we had Steve Jobs, Bob Hope and Johnny Cash. Now we have no Jobs, No Hope and no Cash.

OMG.. That means.. (0)

strobe74 (617588) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655502)

The artificial scarcity will destroy us all.. must.. have.. one.. more than.. ever!

iPhone sells out... (0)

tix6174 (1137029) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655536)

and it's a sign that it's not such a disappointment after all. Yet when RIM sells out of the new Bold 9900 it's all a setup to create "buzz". Maybe RIM is learning from Apple finally. BTW - Try to find a 16Gb Playbook lately? I don't see that posted on Slashdot. Sounds like Slashdot should change the name to applefandot

I call BS (1)

shoehornjob (1632387) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655566)

This is such a slashvertisment. I'd expect this kind of thing from Google news but we should be better than this.

surprise (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37655570)

It should be to someone's surprise--all the tech pundits who whined that it didn't levitate, make toast or have a "5" in its name. I bet those people are surprised. And there sure were a lot of them. Where's their reaction? There's even cases like Ina Fried at all things D who begins a piece by discussing the high demand and concludes it by saying reaction to it is "somewhat muted."

Don't understand the iPhone 4S negativity (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37655584)

I'm a pleased Nexus S owner myself, but I don't understand all the negativity directed toward the iPhone 4S. It has the same simplicity and UI that people seem to love, along with nifty new software like Siri. People have rarely bought iPhone for its gaudy specs anyway, but even if they did, Apple gave it a good state-of-the-art dual-core processor, good GPU, and 1GB of RAM. Sounds very solid and competitive to me - what's bad about that? They didn't change the exterior or the name? So what?

The only glaringly obvious omission seems to be sticking with 3G instead of adding LTE or HSPA+ support. But, that's not really unexpected, given Apple's history of waiting for greater adoption of 3G before making the 3G iPhone, and tendency to favor battery life with their engineering decisions.

So, why so negative? It just sounds like some of the same old "No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame." cynicism. It's a good product. It is not a surprise at all that people like it!

pundits (4, Insightful)

feldsteins (313201) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655614)

Many tech pundits should be surprised. They were so busy writing about what a disappointment iPhone 4S was that they neglected to notice the fact that preorders sold out in one day.

Re:pundits (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37655824)

Beats me why people are surprised. Unless I'm mistaken, isn't the daily sales of the iphone well above 100,000 something? When you then also consider all the built up anticipation (hype, and delay) thats caused some people from holding off a iPhone 4 (regular) purchase - it isn't exactly a surprise. Then theres also the plethora of people coming out of contract with the 3GS, for whom probably can't conveniently switch ecosystem because of all the Apps they've purchased. I actually expected higher numbers than whats been reported.

News feed (1)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655630)

(AP) - Latest iteration of popular phone series sells out! Mythical Slashdot user "one one" expresses shock and surprise!

Update 3:10 EDT (AP) - Former Weezer bassist Mikey Welsh has died. In a prepared statement, the coroners office of Burlington, Vermont stated: "At the present time, there appears to be no causal link with the unavailability of the iPhone 4S - however these results are preliminary."

Who is One One? (0)

FauxReal (653820) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655642)

Who is One One and why are they surprised? Since when haven't iphones sold out when first available for purchase??

Headlines if they did NOT sell out: (3, Insightful)

Sebastopol (189276) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655744)

"Consumers sour on Apple: Unsuccessful launch leads to glut of 4S supply"

"Apple i4S a flop"

"Apple at the end of its line? i4s overstock causes book to bill ratios to drop in Q1'12"

"Apple has lost its spark: failure to sell out like other products proves i4s is a failure: stock down 20% on concerns of apple's future"

And so on...

its a lose lose.

The herd of sheep moves quickly (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37655820)

Too many sheople willing to piss away money on crap, i bet 90% of the preorders are people with an iPhone4 who could have got away with upgrading their existing iphone http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/0-99-Upgrade-Kit-for-iPhone-4-Owners-2.jpg

Interesting (1)

Daetrin (576516) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655828)

So Google and Samsung decided they ought to delay their press conference to announce the Galaxy Nexus Prime (or whatever they're calling it) out of respect for Steve Jobs' death, but Apple went ahead and started doing pre-orders for the iPhone 4s on the day of his funeral.

I'm not sure if Google and Samsung were being overly sensitive or if Apple was being callous.

Re:Interesting (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37655854)

I wager you're a typical fandroid so this will surely be on deaf ears. Maybe the best way to respect Jobs legacy was to keep on doing his work...

Re:Interesting (1)

Daetrin (576516) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655924)

I'd be willing to accept that argument, but if that's the way Apple/Jobs do/would have actually felt it doesn't seem reasonable to me to expect other companies to delay their work out of respect while Apple keeps on doing their work out of respect. If you believe Android is part of his legacy than they should keep on doing that work out of respect too, and if you don't believe Android is part of his legacy then his death doesn't really impact it at all.

Re:Interesting (2)

gnasher719 (869701) | more than 2 years ago | (#37655880)

I'm not sure if Google and Samsung were being overly sensitive or if Apple was being callous.

Call me a cynic, but...

If Apple had asked Steve Jobs whether to delay the release of the iPhone 4S, what would he have said? "No way!". If Google and Samsung had asked Steve Jobs whether to delay the release of their next phone, what would he have said? "Of course, for at least two years!".

Seriously, nobody thinks that Steve Jobs would have wanted them to delay anything, so I don't think anything was delayed out of sensitivity.

Re:Interesting (1)

jimicus (737525) | more than 2 years ago | (#37656026)

For the tail-end of last week, there would have been absolutely no point in announcing a major techie thing like "Fancy New Phone Launch". The media was too busy canonising Jobs.

mod vurp (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37655912)

Apple Always Screws Up the Supply Chain (3, Interesting)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 2 years ago | (#37656006)

Whenever Apple introduces a new model or product, there's never enough to meet demand. To fans, that must look like quite a desirable achievement, and why not? Selling out seems the definition of maximum success.

But why doesn't Apple just make more? They aren't making the maximum amount. They're leaving some customers with money and no satisfaction. What Apple does is underestimate the needs of their customers. And is encouraged by all the PR from the "selling out - maximum success" fallacy.

Since the 1980s Apple has been scaring businesses away from using their products for this very reason. Which business wants to depend on PCs for every one of 150 people quickly hired in Q4, but then those amazing Macs just aren't available? Who cares how good they are when you can't get them? This is not some speculative argument. I worked for Northern Telecom in the mid 1990s, when it was (famously) Apple's biggest customer. I was part of an R&D group that was in the debate there to drop Apple for Microsoft (and, I think, HP) instead. The reason was the undependable Apple supply chain. The risk (that often came true) of no PC on the desks of new hires was a constant roadblock there. And this was a company very well dedicated to Apple, in public and in capital investments. They dropped Apple.

So long as Apple keeps having this problem, and keeps treating it like a triumph, Apple will continue to be ignored by serious businesses.

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