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Google Buzz Buzzing Away

Soulskill posted more than 2 years ago | from the bad-news-for-tens-of-users dept.

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MrCrassic writes "It looks like the glory days of Google Buzz have finally come to an end. Google has formally announced the termination of this service to concentrate their efforts on Google+. From the article: 'In a few weeks we'll shut down Google Buzz and the Buzz API, and focus instead on Google+. While people obviously won't be able to create new posts after that, they will be able to view their existing content on their Google Profile, and download it using Google Takeout.' Other products, such as Code Search, the Google Labs website and Jaiku, will also be on the chopping block.

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Google wave? (2)

goombah99 (560566) | more than 2 years ago | (#37717138)

I really liked google wave. it made a good lab notebook. But wi

Re:Google wave? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37717192)

Goes buzz does, hahahaha!

Re:Google wave? (1)

TechLA (2482532) | more than 2 years ago | (#37717376)

And soon Google+ will get the same treatment, as currently even their own employees think it sucks [slashdot.org]. This is what is so stupid with Google - they put out unfinished products all the time and soon enough cancel them completely. Useless to build stuff upon those.

Re:Google wave? (1)

MichaelKristopeit420 (2018880) | more than 2 years ago | (#37717596)

1 employee =/= employees.

this is what is so stupid with you - you're an idiot.

Re:Google wave? (1)

digitig (1056110) | more than 2 years ago | (#37717866)

And that employee only thinks it sucks because the API isn't capable enough to let Zynga put Farmville on it -- which a lot of G+ users think is actually a strength.

Re:Google wave? (2)

TechLA (2482532) | more than 2 years ago | (#37718170)

And without allowing those games Google+ will never succeed as social network. It will be just another niche social network and that isn't exactly what Google wants. They want to make same kind of social network than what Facebook is.

Besides, he said Facebook offers different things for different people, so it suits everyone. That is a good point.

Re:Google wave? (1)

t2t10 (1909766) | more than 2 years ago | (#37718282)

Forget about the lack of APIs, Google+ has major privacy and usability issues.

I think the fact that a Google employee and geek got confused and accidentally posted a private flame publicly speaks for itself: Google+'s circles and privacy settings are a failure.

Re:Google wave? (1)

Muramas95 (2459776) | more than 2 years ago | (#37718436)

Google wave was really bad when you had a large amount of people posting it because It became laggy and unstable. Nice idea but did not work.

Seriously outraged about labs (2)

i kan reed (749298) | more than 2 years ago | (#37717148)

Half the reason I ever use google, is for esoteric search tools like I can find on labs. Is there anyone who provides these kinds of metadata tools?

Re:Seriously outraged about labs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37717538)

Google appears to be indicating that many of the tools current in Labs will be "graduating" out of them. Others will be discontinued. The main change here seems to be that Google will no longer be making their more loosely experimental projects available to the general public, and will be narrowing their focus for future development. It seems that Google is getting "serious" which probably means focusing more on profit and less on "cool".

http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/07/more-wood-behind-fewer-arrows.html

mew (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37717166)

Well, fufu and geewhillickers. That sure spanks my monkey. BUZZZZZZZZ

And next up... (3, Insightful)

madprof (4723) | more than 2 years ago | (#37717180)

Google+ is next for the chop because the company just don't care about it enough, in my view. Not enough momentum to make it work, Facebook is just too big now and it is not going to succeed, I don't think.

Re:And next up... (1)

tripleevenfall (1990004) | more than 2 years ago | (#37717252)

I actually like Google+. I think it works pretty well. The problem is that there's no one there. Social media isn't much good if all your friends are on another site. It took years for grandma and aunt gertie to get on facebook, they aren't going to switch to a new site - and damned if I'm going to manage two of the infernal things.

And, there's also the matter of Facebook defending against Google+ by stealing all the best ideas.

Re:And next up... (2)

poofmeisterp (650750) | more than 2 years ago | (#37717356)

All G+ has to do is encourage teens and tweens; mission accomplished at that point.

Re:And next up... (1)

TechLA (2482532) | more than 2 years ago | (#37717462)

And that's exactly the crowd it won't encourage. So far it's pretty much just tech people there. And when I say there's nothing happening there, people just suggest following some famous tech guys. That's not what I or teens and casual people want to do, they want to follow and talk with their friends.

And that's aside the fact that as a platform Google+ is seriously unfinished and misses great tons of features people expect and need, like events, pages for bands/happenings/random stuff, API access, games and tons of more.

Re:And next up... (1)

poofmeisterp (650750) | more than 2 years ago | (#37717520)

And that's exactly the crowd it won't encourage. So far it's pretty much just tech people there. And when I say there's nothing happening there, people just suggest following some famous tech guys. That's not what I or teens and casual people want to do, they want to follow and talk with their friends.

I said: "All G+ has to do is..."
Not: "All G+ does is..."

;)

Re:And next up... (1)

wintercolby (1117427) | more than 2 years ago | (#37717760)

Must be your circles are boring, because mine are getting pretty active. It's a different group of people than I know on Facebook, but I'm getting much more interesting content from it. There are practically no dinner plates and nothing about how many sheets of TP that were used that day. People also seem more open to discussion when they don't think the world is seeing and judging what they're saying. Fewer trolls, more well thought out, more like a 6 person conversation than an Internet forum.

Re:And next up... (1)

TechLA (2482532) | more than 2 years ago | (#37718194)

Yeah, and you can't actually join any pages or groups to find those people. For example I follow my favorite games on Facebook, so I get updates about them and also see some discussions. Good example being Team Fortress 2 and Trackmania. Of course, there's no such in Google+, so it's basically dead to me (and many other people).

Re:And next up... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37717254)

You don't think it's NOT going to succeed? Hurrah, I'm glad to hear that you expect it to succeed!

Re:And next up... (1)

alen (225700) | more than 2 years ago | (#37717312)

not they don't care but it seems google engineers love to build something to version .8 or so and then go on to the next cool thing. instead of spending years building a product through different versions and making it better.

Google voice search vs Siri is a perfect example. release it, show how cool it is and go on to the next thing.

Re:And next up... (1)

darth dickinson (169021) | more than 2 years ago | (#37717458)

Yep... Google seems to be infested with what I call "80% Engineers" - they like to work the first 80% of the project, through all the project planning and setting the roadmap, and getting the initial version out the door. Then when it comes to the grind of full implementation, and dealing with the bugs and users, they bail to follow the latest shiny.

Re:And next up... (2)

BadBlood (134525) | more than 2 years ago | (#37718132)

Where I come from, the difference between the 80%-ers and the 100%-ers is like comparing amateurs to professionals.

Re:And next up... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37717348)

What I think hurt Google+ is not being able to have a Google+ account with Google Apps. If I had a presence on Google+ I could potentially have attracted a couple hundred other people to join Google+. Many of those people would have brought many more users too, and it would of snowballed. As many have said Google Apps users are first subscribers, trend setters so to speak, but we were all shut out. We could of, we would of pushed Google's agenda, happily for free.

We could of created another non-Google Apps account, and many of us did, but we didn't want to tell many people about it, because we didn't want that to become our main online profile, we were saving that for our Google Apps account. So we either didn't come to Google+ at all, or were hush-hush about it waiting for Google+ on our Google Apps account.

Google blew the chance, they blew it completely, but his one fatal mistake.

Re:And next up... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37717432)

Do you think Steve Jobs created the Apple Corp of today? No, me created the culture, but Apple fanboys created the Apple of today, and even defined it in the past as well. Who do you think are Google fanboys? What service do you think Google fanboys use? Google Apps!!! How can you get your fanboys to work for you, if you don't even let them use the product you are pushing?

Re:And next up... (1)

madprof (4723) | more than 2 years ago | (#37717686)

Google+ is coming to Google Apps. That is absolutely going to happen. I have this from a friend working at Google. There are very large Apps customers who they want to keep pleased.

Re:And next up... (1)

BitZtream (692029) | more than 2 years ago | (#37718126)

Yea, and a friend of mine who does development at google on one of the services/reasons that its not part of apps told me the same thing about buzz, 2 years ago.

I wouldn't hold your breath waiting.

Re:And next up... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37717806)

Could *have*, would *have*, FFS.

Re:And next up... (1)

IGnatius T Foobar (4328) | more than 2 years ago | (#37717532)

Facebook brings out the worst in people. Somehow, people of all ages from all walks of life suddenly become spoiled, whiny, over-dramatic teenagers when on Facebook. It will fade on its own, just like AOL (which was also supposedly too big to decline) did. Google+ is still building momentum; don't expect it to become huge overnight. These things take years.

Facebook: A wetdream come true for all... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37718726)

... attention-seeking homosexuals.

Re:And next up... (1)

at_slashdot (674436) | more than 2 years ago | (#37717548)

It already has 40 million users, even if it doesn't grow more (which is improbable) I doubt Google will cut it.

Re:And next up... (3, Insightful)

David Gerard (12369) | more than 2 years ago | (#37717682)

Ah. no. It has 40 million signups. They have not given a figure for active users. For comparison, when Facebook says 800M, that's 800M users who use the thing at least slightly. When Twitter says 100M, that's 100M users who use the thing. When Google says 40M, that means 40M accounts created and rotting.

Re:And next up... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37717990)

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if facebook's got less than half of actual real users - active accounts that are not made up or duplicates of something, etc.

The same goes for twitter: people who just get an account and then stop. And so on for every other service: wordpress, tumblr, ...

Re:And next up... (1)

BitZtream (692029) | more than 2 years ago | (#37718156)

Uhm, you could not be more wrong.

Its universally accepted that no where near 800M people use facebook, and its more likely to be somewhere well below 400M actual people have signed up, significantly lower still for people who actually use the site. Their population explosion happened as games started giving bonuses for friends playing and crap.

Re:And next up... (1)

jzuccaro (1234644) | more than 2 years ago | (#37718448)

Of those 800M how many do you think are real? Between the fake accounts created to stalk other people, cats and dogs, fake accounts used for games that reward you if you invite other friends, and so on...
Honest question, I would love to see the real numbers, since most people I know have at least 2 accounts or more.

Re:And next up... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37717552)

Actually there are a lot of reasons to like Google+. I have actually found myself spending more time with it than FB lately. And FB is starting to look an awful lot like the new MySpace...

Re:And next up... (1)

kiwimate (458274) | more than 2 years ago | (#37718458)

FB is starting to look an awful lot like the new MySpace

How so? Facebook started with a very significant paradigm over MySpace. MySpace allowed people a great deal of flexibility over how they laid out their pages, embedded codes, all kinds of things. That led to it becoming a useless buggy unwieldy mess as teenage girls loaded up their profiles with music, videos, flashing graphics, etc.

Facebook said "you will use our template". It's consistent, and keeps the audio-visual messes to a minimum.

Re:And next up... (1)

interval1066 (668936) | more than 2 years ago | (#37717766)

There was a very good blog post by a google employee featured *here* just yesterday wherein the geek rants about badly google neefs to be a platform. Look for it, good reading.

Re:And next up... (1)

lennier1 (264730) | more than 2 years ago | (#37717802)

At least Google+ leads to some kickbacks from game companies instead of only costing them money.

Re:And next up... (2)

Snufu (1049644) | more than 2 years ago | (#37717804)

These are just prototypes in Google's master plan to synergize Wave, Buzz, and Plus into the ultimate social networking platform:
Google Wuzzlepus.

Re:And next up... (1)

bberens (965711) | more than 2 years ago | (#37717826)

Google+ needs APIs so that third party developers can make tons of time wasters so people can spend hours on end playing farmville+ or whatever. The only thing that can save Google+ is to make it horrible.

Re:And next up... (1)

Bucky24 (1943328) | more than 2 years ago | (#37718364)

Hopefully when they do that they include a mechanism to allow people to keep all the horrible out. I really like the idea of circles, and I could see the same thing applied to apps (this app can send me any notification, this app can only send me invites, this app can't talk to me at all).

Actually for all I know Facebook might have this kind of an interface, I've just never been able to find it.

Re:And next up... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37718270)

some communication tools integrations and awesome multi player games will surely help it.

Re:And next up... (1)

CrashNBrn (1143981) | more than 2 years ago | (#37718586)

Yep. Lately, Google reminds me of Network Television: wherein you invest your time and interest in a "new show" only to see it cancelled before the first season has elapsed.
Like that Google Employee plea/rant [slashdot.org] the other day emphasized: Google needs to stop doing things half-assedly.

So will Google+ be around in a year or two if it doesn't dominate it's market? If Google's behaviour with it's other partially successful forays are any indication - then no it wont be. So why should anyone bother investing their time and effort when Google can pull the rug at any time as it sees fit.

Instead of incorporating Wave and Buzz into Google+, they were axed, along with other Google Lab utilities. These actions, diminish Googles reputation, lessen the little trust I still had for the company and make it readily apparent what Google actually is: An Ad-Network that offers decent search as it's lure.

I recall the Google Glory days when they demolished AltaVista and Yahoo, Google was awesome. Now... not so much. It's not that hard to see through the veneer these days.

about time (1)

shentino (1139071) | more than 2 years ago | (#37717212)

I'm glad they're finally amputating the foot they shot themselves in.

I locked it down with the "go private and ban everyone" after their contact list goofup exposed craptons of information.

No way to find a list of people I'd banned made it impossible to reopen with my trusted friends.

Re:about time (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37717292)

I locked it down with the "go private and ban everyone" after their contact list goofup exposed craptons of information.

No way to find a list of people I'd banned made it impossible to reopen with my trusted friends.

Frankly? That sounds like your own fault for being an overreacting spaz.

Re:about time (1)

shentino (1139071) | more than 2 years ago | (#37718168)

I don't consider locking my personal information down pronto spazzing out.

At least Google made such a thing possible.

If I was naive enough to stay with Facebook I never would have had that luxury period.

I'll miss Buzz!!! (1)

Demoknight (66150) | more than 2 years ago | (#37717222)

I liked the way it integrated with GMail in a non-intrusive way. Just was another "folder" for me to click on at my leisure and post something quick if I wanted. I hope G+ takes up that spot in my "folders"

Have a good weekend everyone :)

D

Re:I'll miss Buzz!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37717266)

I also liked it. It was a rarely used anti-social network which, unlike plus, allowed at least semi-anonymity. There was a new post on it about once a week and it made me happy :(

Re:I'll miss Buzz!!! (1)

Archangel Michael (180766) | more than 2 years ago | (#37717514)

I hope they give us the option of integrating/migrating our Google Buzz posts into Google Plus. That would make me happier bout Buzz going bye-bye.

glory days of Google Buzz (1)

discord5 (798235) | more than 2 years ago | (#37717256)

glory days of Google Buzz

What glory days are we speaking of here? Oh, it was intended ironically, my bad.

Aggregation, not creation (1)

PAPPP (546666) | more than 2 years ago | (#37717262)

I'm not surprised, because it is eminently clear that Google wants to concentrate their social features on Plus (in effect, to compete with Facebook by cloning Facebook), but I am still disappointed.
I genuinely like Buzz; it aggregates activity from a whole range of services that I don't care to deal with (personal blogs, google reader, twitter, tumblr, etc.) for easy reading, instead of being another one of those services (Hi Plus!). It was even better because it used an open standard mechanism [microformats.org] for identity management to do what it did.
Apparently the APIs for re-posting into Plus from external sites are starting to come together [readwriteweb.com], so I guess that is the migration plan, even though it isn't as open or convenient. It would be nice if Google would set up rel=me peering behavior for plus to replace the functionality.

Codesearch (5, Informative)

Morth (322218) | more than 2 years ago | (#37717336)

They also announced that they're shutting down codesearch. That's much bigger news as far as I'm concerned. Sad to see a great tool disappear.

Re:Codesearch (2, Interesting)

MrEricSir (398214) | more than 2 years ago | (#37717588)

Which begs the question: will there be a replacement for it? Are there other code search services out there?

Re:Codesearch (1)

jopsen (885607) | more than 2 years ago | (#37718934)

Which begs the question: will there be a replacement for it? Are there other code search services out there?

koders.com, I think... I'm not even sure Google Code Search was the first, so I'm sure there's others out there...

Re:Codesearch (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37717920)

This is bad news to me. I've been using code search more and more as google in its infinite wisdom strips out half the words in my code searches. I've been trying bing for these searches - it does better than google which returns absolutely no related results, but it's still not a replacement for the tools that made google my default search provider to begin with.

Re:Codesearch (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37718566)

Yes this is too bad, I used it infrequently, but I found it to be valuable / helpful when I did use it.

Code Search (5, Insightful)

zlogic (892404) | more than 2 years ago | (#37717380)

Code Search is the part I'll miss the most. Great for searching code samples (such as using threads in Perl etc) with some context (instead of a one-line snippet) and without junk like Experts-Exchange or unanswered forum posts. I also like the ability to search code inside a library along with third-party projects using this library, great for bugfixing.
Google is turning into Bing now. Answering common questions with helper scripts (flight info), and forwarding the user to Wikipedia if there is no predefined script. Except that Bing is doing this because their *real* search engine is a joke.

Re:Code Search (1)

Animats (122034) | more than 2 years ago | (#37718668)

Losing Code Search is a loss. Somebody else, like SourceForge, needs to take that on.

This also raises the question of whether Google Code is a safe place to store open source projects.

Code Search... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37717410)

That was really useful; infinately more usable than many API documentation efforts. That was until they made it some javascript dependant thing. I tend not to have scripting enabled on machines where I'd doing things like compiling (performance) or checking into repositories (security). They killed code search a long time ago as far as I'm concerned.

I'm just left wondering how long before Google web search goes the same way...

Buzzing away (1)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | more than 2 years ago | (#37717430)

Am I the only one who thought it'd died a while ago?

Re:Buzzing away (1)

omnichad (1198475) | more than 2 years ago | (#37717764)

On the contrary, I thought Buzz had BECOME the "wall" in Google+. I guess I was wrong. They were virtually the same thing. Now, I guess I need to find a way to have my Twitter posts automatically post to Google+ instead of Buzz.

Buzz (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37717434)

What is it?

O.o

Google is loosing all credibility. (3, Insightful)

Going_Digital (1485615) | more than 2 years ago | (#37717578)

Apart from their core search Google are beginning to loose face, far to many projects started and thrown out. Who is going to invest time and effort using a google service when there is a good chance that it is going to be pulled? Unlike software installed on a computer you are forced to migrate when google decides to shut things down. It's not as though you can just carry on using the service until it no longer meets your needs. Not just a google problem but a wider problem for the whole software as a service concept.

Re:Google is loosing all credibility. (1)

bberens (965711) | more than 2 years ago | (#37717886)

Not for nothing, but Youtube and Gmail are pretty successful. Google isn't doing too shabby to have 3 huge products, two of which are industry leaders.. not sure where Gmail stands on market share.. Docs is gaining market share in small business (hear all the people complaining that + isn't available for the docs pro customers?), and as they improve the apis and scripting capabilities of docs I'm sure it will continue to grow.. currently they've picked the low hanging fruit. But yes, Google keeps sucking it up on the social side because they don't "get it." And no, I don't "get it" either wrt the social networking side.

Re:Google is loosing all credibility. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37718636)

They bought YouTube after it was already massively "successful" in terms of capturing a market.

Re:Google is loosing all credibility. (1)

NeutronCowboy (896098) | more than 2 years ago | (#37717916)

Would you like your money back? I would suggest that if you really, really like all that functionality, go pay Google to have it stick around. If you don't... well, you can always roll the same thing yourself.

Sheesh, yung uns. So used to getting stuff for free they forgot we used to pay for these same services.

Re:Google is loosing all credibility. (1)

omnichad (1198475) | more than 2 years ago | (#37718218)

Ha, it's your generation that pays for stuff that has ads in it too (cable TV)! Though it's the newer generation that pays for satellite radio instead of listening to ad-supported free radio...

Re:Google is loosing all credibility. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37718516)

I use the Internet to download Old Time Radio, which is usually stripped of ads. So I'm using this generation's technology to listen to the previous-previous's generation radio.

Re:Google is loosing all credibility. (1)

Blymie (231220) | more than 2 years ago | (#37718766)

No, it isn't free. Google has a for-profit motive in you using these services. Google makes money off of information you sign away, when you sign up to these services.

I suppose you think that a piece of fruit was free, if I demanded you give me a fish for it? No cash exchanged != free.

Outside of the whole free/not free argument, is the concept of longevity. Linux distros are "more free" than Google services, but I certainly wouldn't use one that would disappear without security updates on a regular basis. Likewise, Google throwing out lots of 'cool' services, and then canceling them without *years* of notice, means I simply am unable to trust Google with my time, my energy, and in fact, my trust.

So, where does that leave Google? It leaves Google with fewer and fewer people using their services (which they *do* make money from, when you use it).

How is that good for Google? How is that good for the end users?

It isn't, for either...

Google really, really, really needs to get over this adolescent stage, and move on to some form of stability.

dear google (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37717590)

do something good, give it to the community or open the code. buzz is great product, google just fucked it up.

Re:dear google (1)

BitZtream (692029) | more than 2 years ago | (#37718662)

'open the code' is pretty stupid here. The data is what MAKES buzz, not the code. The code is nothing impressive and has been done 9 times over, 15 years ago. Anyone could recreate buzz with trivial effort

The data is easy to export from your Google profile as an XML file with everything in there easy to parse.

It's about Platforms stupid! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37717852)

Dread Pirate Bezos knows this. Why doesn't Google?

Risks of the Cloud (5, Insightful)

DanielRavenNest (107550) | more than 2 years ago | (#37717932)

Today's announcement that Google is shutting down several services highlights one of the risks of the "Cloud". Your service provider can decide to shut down, and you have no control over it. My approach, rather, is to keep the primary copy of my data locally. I use the Cloud for backup, and when I want to share data with other people, or myself when I am mobile. Depending on the Cloud for something critical is very risky unless you have a written contract with your provider to keep the service going.

Re:Risks of the Cloud (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37718088)

Your data is not being lost. You can export it, see the OP. Google is pretty insistent that you should be able to liberate your own data from it's services.

However, it is true that there is no guarantee of serving it up for ever. But maintaining your own webserver has its downsides as well - maintaining software, paying bills, dealing with a co-lo that goes out of business, name service providers who re-sell your name.

Re:Risks of the Cloud (1)

thebian (1218280) | more than 2 years ago | (#37718262)

When I got into trouble with Google while trying to sign up for Google +, I lost all the blog and all the mail. Poof. Just like that. No appeal, no explanation, not even an email to write to for the company to ignore.

I could have gotten the account, and the data, back, but I would have had to acquiesce to Google's notion of privacy as my fee for the service. I didn't.

I didn't care about the mail -- it was most blog mail and some other junk. And I was careful about the blog. I tried to remember to export it every so often, and as it turns out only lost one post that was up less than an hour.

---------------

Unbiased Eye [unbiasedeye.com]

Code search invaluable for busting sw patents (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37718012)

Code Search + Open source is a powerful combination for busting software patents. I've used Code Search to demonstrate to our legal team that many difficult patents have prior art in OSS. With all of the trouble Google's had with software patents, code search is the last thing they should pull.

Dark Side of Cloud Apps (4, Insightful)

monkeythug (875071) | more than 2 years ago | (#37718014)

Google, champion of the browser-based app, is inadvertently showing us the dark side of the 'cloud' concept.

When a installed app is discontinued by the provider you still get to use the last version for as long as you want.

When a cloud app gets discontinued, it's just gone.

"Buzzing Away" = activity in progress (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37718112)

Headline fail, because "buzzing away" means a hive of activity where progress is being made. But the thing is shutting down.

You are screwing it up. (1)

unity100 (970058) | more than 2 years ago | (#37718250)

No developer will get on your ship if you just keep shutting down services. I wont develop for a service that may soon shut down in future.

get your shit straight.

The Problem with Google (4, Insightful)

Angrywhiteshoes (2440876) | more than 2 years ago | (#37718318)

Is that their indefinitely long beta runs and half-assed tools have kinda driven me away from them. The best tools they have are things that they have acquired after already doing well. The only original things I've ever seen them do well are gmail and search engine. Almost everything else seems really janky and thrown together to try to steal some of a market that they're trying to jump into several years too late. I understand the attempt to integrate it into a single sign-on, but I'm just tired of a ton of crappy tools that can't really be used well.

Goodbye (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37718592)

and good riddance.

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