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Another holiday: (5, Insightful)

Hartree (191324) | more than 2 years ago | (#37730850)

I want a Dennis Ritchie day!

Re:Another holiday: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37730886)

No one knows who that is.

Re:Another holiday: (2)

eexaa (1252378) | more than 2 years ago | (#37730918)

He didn't look nor act like a magician, he probably had nothing to do with recent computers...

Actually this whole thing is pretty sad.

Re:Another holiday: (3, Insightful)

hedwards (940851) | more than 2 years ago | (#37730950)

If only Steve Jobs had had that sort of foresight, we might actually get to own the computers we purchase.

Re:Another holiday: (5, Interesting)

tqk (413719) | more than 2 years ago | (#37731116)

He didn't look nor act like a magician ...

That was the best part of his act.

Just think, what, forty years ago he designed a programming language in order to port an operating system that would eventually run on everything from PDP-11's through cell phones, so they could play a computer game on (then) new hardware.

Who but dmr comes up with !@#$ like that? That was a class act.

I still haven't seen any mention of his passing in my newspaper. He's like a ghost in the machine, just as he always intended. Awesome.

Re:Another holiday: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37731340)

Agreed.

What saddens me (even before his death) was that there's very few sources
that cite that it was his desire to run a game. Somehow academia believes that
that was an unholy purpose - even if told, it's generally not accepted. It strikes
home to me 'cause that's how I got my start - trying to write a game (didn't
finish it but it led to everything). When I learned that fact, it gave me a whole
other perspective on myself.

Jobs was an amazing marketer - but nothing more than that.

Written in C (5, Insightful)

SgtChaireBourne (457691) | more than 2 years ago | (#37731408)

Just think, what, forty years ago he designed a programming language in order to port an operating system that would eventually run on everything from PDP-11's through cell phones, so they could play a computer game on (then) new hardware.

It's not just that C is the second most common [gcn.com] programming language: Most of the other languages are actually written in C. That includes Perl, Python, and PHP.

Re:Written in C (4, Informative)

ScrewMaster (602015) | more than 2 years ago | (#37731614)

Just think, what, forty years ago he designed a programming language in order to port an operating system that would eventually run on everything from PDP-11's through cell phones, so they could play a computer game on (then) new hardware.

It's not just that C is the second most common [gcn.com] programming language: Most of the other languages are actually written in C. That includes Perl, Python, and PHP.

Not only that, but realistically you have to count embedded systems, not just personal computing devices. By that measure, C is still by far the most popular programming language on the planet.

Re:Another holiday: (2)

wisnoskij (1206448) | more than 2 years ago | (#37731278)

Everyone should know who that is, at the very very least he is as important at Jobs and many people would say much more.

Re:Another holiday: (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37730890)

I can understand someone who was actually important getting their own day, such as Washington's Birthday/President's Day, but this is ridiculous. If they want to give Steve Jobs a day, then it should be a shared day with other technology giants.

Re:Another holiday: (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37730904)

Why? Did he get filthy rich on other people's back like a true American? I guess not.

Re:Another holiday: (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37731024)

LOL, so funny!

But seriously, what are you wasting all your hatred here for. You should be out occupying Wall St, and certainly not working to earn a living or anything.

Since when? (1)

theolein (316044) | more than 2 years ago | (#37731184)

Since when did working for a living make one have to like rich capitalists to whom you are worth less than the ascii used to print these words?

Re:Another holiday: (2)

Ethanol-fueled (1125189) | more than 2 years ago | (#37731204)

Ooo...OOO! I have a joke too - Um, ahem...I guess this means that there's no more JOBS in California!

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!

Thank you, thank you. Please make note of the tip jar, my kids need to eat tonight.

Re:Another holiday: (4, Insightful)

NotSoHeavyD3 (1400425) | more than 2 years ago | (#37730930)

It's like they're creating a big holiday for a guy who happened to build a bunch of builds because they were really nice while at the same time ignoring the death of the guy who invented the concrete that is the basis for the construction that everybody uses, including that first guy.(Go ahead everybody, come up with your own analogy, it's fun.)

Re:Another holiday: (1)

NotSoHeavyD3 (1400425) | more than 2 years ago | (#37730944)

Err, bunch of buildings.

Re:Another holiday: (1)

msobkow (48369) | more than 2 years ago | (#37731600)

Gotta pick up a new keyboard here, too. Sticky keys make it look like I can't spell sometimes. *LOL*

Danged things only last 6 months to a year. Having learned to type in the days of manual typewriters, I'm pretty hard on them.

Re:Another holiday: (4, Insightful)

Broolucks (1978922) | more than 2 years ago | (#37731114)

I don't really like these analogies because they are comparing apples and oranges. Inventing concrete is nice and all, but people do need nice buildings, and the inventor of concrete might be completely incapable to build anything but large cubes of concrete, much like someone who designs nice buildings might be clueless about materials. Most programmers are godawful at design, whereas most designers are godawful at programming, so in my book they are all equally deserving. We need all of these people.

This being said, Steve Jobs is getting clearly disproportionate attention. I think Ritchie is getting just as much attention and celebration as I think he should, but Steve Jobs is getting way, way, WAY more than he deserves, it's getting embarrassing at this point. I mean, a headline I can understand, but this is ridiculous.

Re:Another holiday: (4, Insightful)

Runaway1956 (1322357) | more than 2 years ago | (#37731450)

"I think Ritchie is getting just as much attention and celebration as I think he should, "

That's a little bit funny, when you consider that Mr. Ritchie doesn't seem to have made any headlines at all. Only after reading OP above, did I do a google search, to learn that Mr. Ritchie is, indeed, just as dead as Steve Jobs.

Rest in Peace, Dennis Ritchie, and thank you!

Re:Another holiday: (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37731660)

I don't really like these analogies because they are comparing apples and oranges.

More like comparing Apple to Unix, if you ask me.

Re:Another holiday: (1)

tqk (413719) | more than 2 years ago | (#37731228)

It's like they're creating a big holiday for a guy who happened to build a bunch of [buildings] because they were really nice while at the same time ignoring the death of the guy who invented the concrete that is the basis for the construction that everybody uses, including that first guy.(Go ahead everybody, come up with your own analogy, it's fun.)

Huh. I saw pretty much the same analogy posted in comments on ArsTechnica the other day. Paraphrasing, "Steve was like a gifted architect who oversaw the creation of buildings that many appreciated. dmr invented glass, concrete, and steel."

I love that analogy. It gives them both their due in equivalent proportions. Apple hardware and software is pretty, robust, and sells ridiculously well. dmr's stuff just fscking works, elegantly and quietly, as he intended.

Re:Another holiday: (1)

SvnLyrBrto (62138) | more than 2 years ago | (#37731326)

Yeah... but do you see the incessant whining... like is all over slashdot, ars, and the like, right now over Jobs vs. Ritchie... about the fact that everybody knows who Frank Lloyd Wright is, but no one can remember who invented glass, concrete, or steel?

Re:Another holiday: (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37731344)

IMO C doesn't "just work" and it sure isn't elegant.

It "kinda works".

There are probably only very small number of people in the world who can write nontrivial C programs properly - e.g. they can put USD(2 ^ number of exploitable[1] bugs)-1 bounties on their C programs and not go bankrupt.

[1] e.g. attacker can execute arbitrary code of the attacker's choice.

Re:Another holiday: (1)

geekmux (1040042) | more than 2 years ago | (#37731300)

It's like they're creating a big holiday for a guy who happened to build a bunch of builds because they were really nice while at the same time ignoring the death of the guy who invented the concrete that is the basis for the construction that everybody uses, including that first guy.(Go ahead everybody, come up with your own analogy, it's fun.)

What, no talk of a car in your analogy?!? You must be new here.

Re:Another holiday: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37731534)

Well its more like they're creating a big holiday for a guy who built a bunch of buildings, utilizing some purchased ideas with a mix of his own new ones (that are still in use today). The original buildings this guy built were made out of a a material at the time that some other guy wasn't too happy with. This other guy then invented concrete which eventually became the basis for the construction that everybody uses, including that first guy, today.

I know, it doesn't sound as good as the original analogy But anyway, the Apple II, the Lisa and the early Mac's used Pascal as the primary language for development. Obviously this changed over time to C (and its variants).

Re:Another holiday: (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37731040)

It's interesting to see how Steve Jobs' fame is affecting Dennis Ritchie's. I have no doubt that there would be much less chatter about Dennis Ritchie's death were Steve Jobs still alive.

Re:Another holiday: (1)

tqk (413719) | more than 2 years ago | (#37731328)

I have no doubt that there would be much less chatter about Dennis Ritchie's death were Steve Jobs still alive.

If you'd grown up with him (dmr) like some of us did, you wouldn't be spouting BS like that.

Re:Another holiday: (1)

Phat_Tony (661117) | more than 2 years ago | (#37731570)

I'm sure you're upset because you knew Dennis, but what the parent post said is objectively true, and it is not a slight on Dennis Ritchie. Did you even stop to think, you're calling his post BS in a discussion on a Steve Jobs article, in which most of the posts above this are about Dennis Ritchie? Every discussion forum about Steve these days has a bunch of posts about Dennis - if Steve hadn't died, these posts about Dennis wouldn't be here. I'm not getting the hate for his post.

Re:Another holiday: (3, Insightful)

msobkow (48369) | more than 2 years ago | (#37731062)

He wasn't a true American. He didn't earn millions or billions by offshoring his factories. He didn't profit by patenting his work. And he never sued anyone.

If you want a state memorial, you have to be a ruthless, immoral, no-holds-barred capitalist.

Re:Another holiday: (1)

msobkow (48369) | more than 2 years ago | (#37731226)

By the way, I do think Jobs was a great business man who did a tremendous job of leading Apple to where they are today.

But I am disappointed to see that the fanboism has infected society to the degree that a state would declare a memorial day for a business man who did little if anything for society itself. Shipping shiny toys may be profitable, but it does not change the world in the same way as philanthropy and political activism do.

Re:Another holiday: (2)

gman003 (1693318) | more than 2 years ago | (#37731512)

I suggest you find a copy of "Steve Jobs and the NeXT Big Thing". Jobs was not a good manager, and was a downright terrible businessman. He was a good leader, very inspirational, but independently he was a failure at making a product people would buy. I believe he was successful at Apple (the second time) mainly because he was managed well, because he had people in charge who would say "no, you can't do that, that's too expensive" or "no, you don't need to do that, nobody cares about that".

Re:Another holiday: (1)

msobkow (48369) | more than 2 years ago | (#37731576)

I'm genuinely confused by NeXT's failures. Their APIs were clean, they had a system well in advance of what was available from other companies at the time, and proprietary hardware was still the norm when they were around.

NeXT lives on in OS/X GUI, heavily adapted and updated, so at least the best of NeXT's technology was salvaged.

But you're right -- Jobs had a whole team assisting him with Apple. I'm not sure he was forced to take advice from a team at NeXT.

Re:Another holiday: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37731082)

Better yet, just hijack Steve Jobs day and say to anyone who disagrees, "Dennis made it possible for Steve to even exist to this extent. Without him, Steve would have been 'yet another nobody.'"

Admittedly you could probably take that as far back as people who made the first tools, but it is more about the scale of creation really.
Without Dennis, the main framework of what makes Apple work, the OS, wouldn't exist.
Then we would have been left with Microsoft as the main OS producer for a little while.
Admittedly though, even Microsoft depended hugely on the creations of Dennis to produce their OS to any decent extent, including all the producers of programs throughout its history.
Without it, Visual Basic, or something close to it, would have probably arrived much sooner and in a probably more capable state, and last longer.

Without Dennis, so much of the computing world wouldn't have been the way it was, if at all even in a usable state from the nineties through noughties.
Where is the film for Dennis... it'd be such a radically different world. Steve just made a bunch of teens and young adults overly happy to waste money on over-priced goods. He was a fantastic marketer, that is about it. I'd have more sadness in me if The Woz were to have died, that guy is a god of the computing age as well. Steve Wozniak made Apple possible. Steve Jobs abandoned Apple remember, before eventually going back to it.

Re:Another holiday: (2)

Broolucks (1978922) | more than 2 years ago | (#37731212)

When you create something, normally, you fill a niche. Dennis Ritchie did something useful and did it well, but if his stuff took off, that's because there was a need for it in some way. If he didn't exist, then somebody else would have filled that need a short while later, with something that might have been better or worse, there is no way to tell. Without Ritchie you would have no UNIX, but then somebody else would have made something similar. To say that Steve Jobs would be nothing without Ritchie is disingenuous, because without Ritchie he would have based his work on something else that would have been roughly equivalent. Jobs is a designer, he would base his design on whatever technologies are available, no matter who made them, and he would have success no matter what.

For the most part, technology (much like science) progresses at its own rhythm. At any point in time, the current state of science and technology allows for a certain number of incremental improvements, and hundreds if not thousands of people have the technical capability to make these improvements. These improvements will happen no matter what, by one or more people with the technical capability, within a limited time window. Individuals really don't matter all that much.

Re:Another holiday: (1)

rsmith (90057) | more than 2 years ago | (#37731620)

I want a Dennis Ritchie day!

Second that. Dennis Ritchie's legacy is way more important.

Wait (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37730864)

Seriously?

I first read this as "Tehnology Tribalizer" (1)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | more than 2 years ago | (#37730922)

And there were lulz.

Until he died, I wasn't sure if Jobs and Brown were actually different people. Only Linda Ronstadt knows for sure...

NO (2)

Killer Instinct (851436) | more than 2 years ago | (#37730882)

iSorry but I declare it Dennis Ritchie Day!

Re:NO (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37731008)

iSorry but I declare it Dennis Ritchie Day!

I agree. How about we honor a few more true creative minds too. Steve Jobs day? Might as well declare a Nelson Rockefeller day, or a British Petroleum day. The fact that it's California doing this makes it suspect from the beginning, so I would suggest the following as more rational substitutes (feel free to add more):

Ken Thompson Day (yeah, Apple, where would you be without C and Unix?)

James Clerk Maxwell Day

Max Planck Day

Nikola Tesla Day

Einstein Day

Marie & Pierre Curie Day

Darwin Day

Jonas Salk Day

Galileo Galilei Day

Copernicus Day

Van Leeuwenhoek Day

I left Edison off the list because he was a bit too much like Jobs for my taste.

Re:NO (2)

arth1 (260657) | more than 2 years ago | (#37731216)

Yebbut, how many of those were Californians?
You don't expect California to declare a day for out-of-staters, do you?

And besides, many of the people on your list have had national days for them declared by the president - that kind of trumps California, no?

Re:NO (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37731454)

yeah, Apple, where would you be without C and Unix?

This recursive reasoning pretty much excludes anyone from being recognized. Darwin, where would he have been without the work of Aristotle. Why celebrate CERN's LHC when we should instead thank Grag the caveman for devising the flint tools from which modern tools are descended.

RIP Dennis Ritchie (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37730902)

See subject.

Long story short... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37730914)

His brain-care specialist said, "Vell, he's just zis guy, you know?"

But its a Sunday (3, Informative)

rossdee (243626) | more than 2 years ago | (#37730916)

They should Mondayize it, like Columbus Day, Presidents Day, and MLK Day.

Whats the point of a Holiday if nobody has the day off?

For that matter why are Halloween and Valentines Day called holidays - nobody has them off...

Re:But its a Sunday (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37731180)

For that matter why are Halloween and Valentines Day called holidays - nobody has them off...

Where I live we have 2 days off for Halloween (but we call it All Saints' Day [wikipedia.org] or "Sollemnitas Omnium Sanctorum" in Latin and All Souls' Day [wikipedia.org]), the schools are even closed for a whole week.

On Valentines Day /. readers have nothing to celebrate anyway.

Re:But its a Sunday (1)

Sulphur (1548251) | more than 2 years ago | (#37731472)

On Valentines Day /. readers have nothing to celebrate anyway.

Was there another massacre?

In china.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37730926)

it will be called exploit poor workers day.

Re:In china.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37730992)

it will be called exploit poor workers day.

Of course. In China every day is exploit poor workers day. And everywhere else too.

On 15 October, Goebbels attempted suicide... (0, Troll)

Hazel Bergeron (2015538) | more than 2 years ago | (#37730928)

...on 16 October, we celebrate the life of another great propagandist.

Bla bla Godwin. Face it: Jobs' main talent was marketing his vision and he was one of the best at it since Joseph.

Re:On 15 October, Goebbels attempted suicide... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37731072)

So all marketers are Nazis?

Wait, no, let me try again. All people who want to get some sort of message out are Nazis? You ARE generalizing "propagandist" with "marketer", and that's the only common thread.

"Bla bla Godwin", fuck you, buddy. You're the reason said law exists.

Re:On 15 October, Goebbels attempted suicide... (1)

Hazel Bergeron (2015538) | more than 2 years ago | (#37731188)

So all marketers are Nazis?

No. I was just arguing that Jobs was one of the best marketers (in the West) since Goebbels.

Would you say that he wasn't as good as Goebbels?

Re:On 15 October, Goebbels attempted suicide... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37731394)

All people who want to get some sort of message out are Nazis?

No, all people who want to stuff some sort of message down my throat, agains my explicit wil, are Nazis.

or, as the Reality Distortion Zone would've put it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37730948)

Jobs for every Californian Day

Who needs God? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37730958)

Who needs God when you have Steve Jobs?

A world wide network of stores / churches are already built!

Jobs Wept (0, Troll)

Mike Mentalist (544984) | more than 2 years ago | (#37730964)

The guy sold portable music players and mobile phones to people. Why do those people have such an emotional attachment to the man?

Re:Jobs Wept (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37730994)

Thanks for inquiring. Your clue is in the mail.

Re:Jobs Wept (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37731080)

Eras in modern computing

1976 - 1980 Steve Jobs
1981 - 1994 Bill Gates
1995 - 1997 Marc Andreesen
1998 - 2003 Larry Page, Sergei Brin, Shawn Fanning
2004 - current Mark Zuckerberg
2001 - 2011 Steve Jobs

Notice anything unusual about the above list?

Re:Jobs Wept (1)

mccalli (323026) | more than 2 years ago | (#37731264)

Yeah, it's missing Jack Tramiel and Commodore - the company which built the best selling single model of all time?

Cheers,
Ian

Re:Jobs Wept (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37731384)

I once read a book about Tramiel and Commodore, written by a guy who was his marketing chief (IIRC he had no prior credentials, but he was young and enthusiastic and Tramiel liked him).

Whenever a price for the upcoming model was suggested, Tramiel would growl, "Lower!" (like Sam Walton I guess). And each Commodore model was incompatible with its predecessor, because Tramiel though compatibility was largely irrelevant in the marketplace - his products competed on price, features, and specs.

I'm sure the book is long out of print and I threw mine out decades ago. Entertaining read, though.

Re:Jobs Wept (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37731414)

...Commodore...

That would be Richie

Re:Jobs Wept (1)

rossdee (243626) | more than 2 years ago | (#37731338)

"Notice anything unusual about the above list?"

Yes, its wrong. The Bill Gates Era didn't start til 1995 and you left out Jay Miner. (You also left out Clive Sinclair, but you probably never heard of him in the USA (or of Dick Smith for that matter.)

(I bought my firdt computer in 1979 - my 3rd computer was an Apple ][ the 5th was a Mac, and I havn't bought an Apple product since then

Re:Jobs Wept (1)

mikael (484) | more than 2 years ago | (#37731456)

You don't understand the history of Silicon Valley. The whole company was founded in his parent's garage. One half for marketing, the other half for engineering. Most startups fold within 18 months. They were the ones that not just made it but issued stock and survived through three decades (1980's - home computers, 1990's - GUI based workstations, 2000's - consumer 3D/ downloadable music, 2010's - mobile devices).

Misspelling? (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37731038)

CORRECTION: Today is blow jobs day!

California lol (0)

Dunbal (464142) | more than 2 years ago | (#37731054)

I'm waiting for "balanced budget" day.

Re:California lol (4, Funny)

geekmux (1040042) | more than 2 years ago | (#37731306)

I'm waiting for "balanced budget" day.

It's right on the calendar man...it's a holiday in fact.

See, says right here, "Balanced Budget day is usually celebrated the day after 'Cold Day in Hell'."

Defective by design (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37731058)

We've already got anti-DRM day. Why do we need a celebrate DRM day?

Thank goodness (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37731090)

At least it isn't another one of those holidays for some random army person who died oh so valiantly and killed lots of people (Thank you Memorial Day).

Steve jobs actually helped create things, rather than kill things. This is what our society should be celebrating.

Persona (1)

jones_supa (887896) | more than 2 years ago | (#37731106)

I think Steve was okay, but it's worth noting that along being a computer innovator, one of his qualities was simply being a charismatic person, for partly which he will be remembered so well.

Dislike (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37731118)

Dislike. Why should such a worthless, evil man get his own day?

A day for the day who invented spas! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37731154)

I agree with the comments I've read so far, plus I'm so bored... and if I listen to another tech-hispter zombie say the words "Genius" "Einstein" and so on next to Job's name I think I may puke. (R.I.P. Mr. Dennis M. Ritchie, and Thank You! )

How about Jon Voight Day? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37731158)

Steve Jobs can't hold a candle to Jon Voight.

airing tonight at 8 pm EST (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37731196)

is that 9 pm EDT?

Some people became insane. Are you so? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37731238)

No, I am not. I can understand that Steve Jobs and Apple paid a lot of taxes in California but worker pays many more...

Holiday Context (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37731258)

If it's Steve Jobs' day it should be Dennis Ritchie month.

It never fails to amaze me how flash trumps substance every time. But then again, an empty can makes the loudest noise.

Whats the occasion? (1)

Osgeld (1900440) | more than 2 years ago | (#37731288)

In celebration of Steve's death (which is a little late), or in celebration of off-shoring all those California jobs to china?

Will the doc be made by Apple Fanboys ... (1)

wisnoskij (1206448) | more than 2 years ago | (#37731292)

Or will the world finally realize that he is not as fantastic a person as everyone is claiming he was.

Re:Will the doc be made by Apple Fanboys ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37731482)

Have you seen the ad [youtube.com] for it? It's the first time in a while I've felt that feeling of revulsion you get from watching someone whore themselves out, and in an obviously-slapped-together commercial to boot. Although I probably won't watch it, it might make for a good cringe-laugh show. Anyway, I hope Jamie and Adam got paid a shitload for selling some of their respect.

Too soon? (0, Troll)

X3J11 (791922) | more than 2 years ago | (#37731296)

I'm so sick of hearing about this bloody Steve Jobs guy; I wish he'd just die.

Seriously, he was just a man. Sure, a stylish dresser and a very capable peddler of mediocre products that purchasers never truly owned, but still just a man.

Re:Too soon? (-1, Troll)

whisper_jeff (680366) | more than 2 years ago | (#37731400)

When you're dad dies, I hope you don't shed a tear because, you know, "he was just a man."

Re:Too soon? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37731518)

When you're dad dies, I hope you don't shed a tear because, you know, "he was just a man."

There's a big difference between the death of a personal relative/friend and a public outcry that doesn't stop.

Re:Too soon? (1)

msobkow (48369) | more than 2 years ago | (#37731650)

"stylish dresser"?

You mean wearing black turtlenecks for umpteen years in a row? I think it was Einstein who suggested buying a closet full of identical suits so you wouldn't have to waste time deciding what to wear, but I do think Jobs took that to an extreme.

Thanks for the best laugh I've had today.

China's Steve Jobs Day (0)

B00KER (1359329) | more than 2 years ago | (#37731390)

China should declare an Steve Jobs Day. Steve brought more jobs to China than to America. ... more slavery like than jobs, but many more.

And I declare today: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37731524)

"Mention Steve Jobs and die" day.

Yeah. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37731550)

I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

California... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37731632)

...can kiss my ass.

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