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What Happens When the Average Lifespan is 150 Years?

samzenpus posted more than 2 years ago | from the first-century-is-the-best dept.

Medicine 904

First time accepted submitter Macgrrl writes "It was reported today in The Age newspaper that scientists believe they will have a drug within the next 5-10 years that will extend the average human lifespan to 150 years. Given the retirement age is 65, that would give you an extra 85 years, meaning you would probably have to extend the average working life to 100 or 120 years to prevent the economy becoming totally unbalanced and pensions running out. That assumes that the life extension is all 'good years', and not a prolonged period of dementia and physical decline. Would you want to live to 150? What do you see as being the most likely issues and what do you think you would do with all the extra years?"

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Easy (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37737278)

I'd spend all my time hitting those 80 year old cheerleaders!

Re:Easy (-1)

TimeRightNow (2486828) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737310)

Don't read this... it is a curse...

In 2008, a little boy named Erin was relaxing on the beach in the middle of the day. Whilst doing so, he spotted a small lizard beanie baby about 6 meters away, stood up, and then called out to it. After the lizard asked him what he wanted, Erin said in a confident manner, "I betcha can't lick my buttcheeks!" The lizard replied, "I bet I can!" and stuck out its tongue a few inches. Confident of the lizard's impending failure, Erin laughed. However, he discovered that his confidence was misplaced right as he heard the sound of the lizard's invisible tongue slapping his buttcheek!

Angry, Erin yelled, "I betcha can't lick my buttcrack!" The lizard replied the same way, and then once again stuck out its tongue a few inches. And, once again... Erin heard the sound of an invisible tongue slapping against something, but this time it violated his buttcrack. Furious, he screamed, "I betcha can't lick my butthole!" The lizard replied the same way, stuck out its tongue a few inches, and the exact same thing happened.

For Erin, that was the last straw. He was so furious that he ran up to the lizard beanie baby and tried to stomp on it. However, it somehow managed to crawl up his left pant leg and appeared to be crawling towards his bootyass! In his desperation, he attempted to stop it by blocking it with his hand. He quickly realized that that would not be effective when the lizard merely crawled under his hand. The lump in his pant leg continued onward towards his bootyass. After trying and failing to take off his pants, Erin gave up all hope and began screaming for help. Once the lizard reached Erin's precious bootyasscheekcrackhole, it began crawling on top of it in a square pattern, stopping and continuing every few seconds. Whenever the lizard moved, the sound of a snake was heard many times in a short amount of time. This inflicted tremendous amounts of tickle on Erin's bootyass!

Now that you have read this (even a single word of it), the lizard will crawl on your bootyasscheekcrackhole in a square pattern, inflicting extreme amounts of tickle upon it! To prevent this from happening, copy and paste this entire comment and then repost it as a comment three times.

Legalized euthanasia (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37737280)

Well, you can't have such a sysyem without legalized euthanasia. Or you need a lot of homeless shelter.

Re:Legalized euthanasia (-1)

ThereIsNoHole (2486830) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737318)

Don't read this... it is a curse...

In 2007, a little boy named Timothy was standing in the hallway inside of his house. He then turned towards the place where the hallway connects with his mom's bedroom and spotted a box of graham crackers. This made him realize that there was a new rule in his house: anyone who walks past the box of graham crackers must allow the large black man standing near it to screw their bootyass! Then, for some reason, he tried to run past the box of graham crackers and was grabbed by the large black man. The large black man looked at his bootyass naked bootyass and screamed, "There is no hole!" Timothy then escaped and ran into his mom's closet, and the black man followed. The black man then bumped into the cabbage patch kid in the closet and angered it. Timothy managed to escape outside while the black man's bootyass was turned into a rumblehouse. Then, Timothy noticed that a close friend of his had his car parked in front of his house and was signaling him to get inside. Timothy did so, and the car took off down the road while Timothy explained his situation to his friend.

While Timothy was celebrating the fact that he escaped, the car began slowing down; his friend then said, "Now, now, now's the time right now!"

Timothy asked him what he was doing. His friend grinned evilly and replied, "What slowness can I offer you? I'm copyright owner Madow!" and turned into an old man wearing a butler's outfit.

The car continued to slow down, and the cabbage patch kid was catching up to them. Timothy then got out of the car (since he could run faster than it was moving) and began running. However, what seemed to be an invisible entity lifted him into the air and thrusted him ass-first around the world at a speed greater than the speed of light! Eventually, Timothy's bootyass naked bootyass crashed directly into the very same cabbage patch kid he was trying to escape from! The cabbage patch kid was then sucked into Timothy's bootyasscheekcrackhole as if his bootyass was a spaghetti noodle (just like grandma)! At that point, his bootyass became a bouncehouse for the cabbage patch kid, and major amounts of tickle was inflicted upon it!

Now that you have read this (even a single word of it), the very same cabbage patch kid will get sucked right up your bootyass as if your bootyass is a spaghetti noodle, and major amounts of tickle will be inflicted upon it! To prevent this from happening, copy and paste this entire comment and then repost it as a comment three times.

Re:Legalized euthanasia (1)

maxwell demon (590494) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737404)

If you increase the work time span accordingly (assuming this indeed increases the time span where you can be productive), I think it would work quite well without euthanasia. To get the same duration of retirement, you'd have a longer time to save, and therefore would have to save less per year during your work span. This would result either in more money to spend, or in correspondingly lower wages (or a combination of both), which is good for the economy. Note that increasing the work time span without increasing the unproductive time spans means a larger fraction of people being productive.

Mind Uploading (3, Interesting)

WillDraven (760005) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737560)

I would spend all my extra years working on mind uploading technology. I want to live for a very long time, uploaded into a spaceship exploring the universe. When your mind is software you can just alter your perception of time and fast forward through all the boring parts.

Post useless stuff (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37737282)

I would refine my skills at posting flame bait on /.

Re:Post useless stuff (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37737362)

Don't read this... it is a curse...

In 2008, a little boy named Rob Malda was relaxing on the beach in the middle of the day. Whilst doing so, he spotted a small lizard beanie baby about 6 meters away, stood up, and then called out to it. After the lizard asked him what he wanted, Rob Malda said in a confident manner, "I betcha can't lick my buttcheeks!" The lizard replied, "I bet I can!" and stuck out its tongue a few inches. Confident of the lizard's impending failure, Rob Malda laughed. However, he discovered that his confidence was misplaced right as he heard the sound of the lizard's invisible tongue slapping his buttcheek!

Angry, Rob Malda yelled, "I betcha can't lick my buttcrack!" The lizard replied the same way, and then once again stuck out its tongue a few inches. And, once again... Rob Malda heard the sound of an invisible tongue slapping against something, but this time it violated his buttcrack. Furious, he screamed, "I betcha can't lick my butthole!" The lizard replied the same way, stuck out its tongue a few inches, and the exact same thing happened.

For Rob Malda, that was the last straw. He was so furious that he ran up to the lizard beanie baby and tried to stomp on it. However, it somehow managed to crawl up his left pant leg and appeared to be crawling towards his bootyass! In his desperation, he attempted to stop it by blocking it with his hand. He quickly realized that that would not be effective when the lizard merely crawled under his hand. The lump in his pant leg continued onward towards his bootyass. After trying and failing to take off his pants, Rob Malda gave up all hope and began screaming for help. Once the lizard reached Rob Malda's precious bootyasscheekcrackhole, it began crawling on top of it in a square pattern, stopping and continuing every few seconds. Whenever the lizard moved, the sound of a snake was heard many times in a short amount of time. This inflicted tremendous amounts of tickle on Rob Malda's bootyass!

Now that you have read this (even a single word of it), the lizard will crawl on your bootyasscheekcrackhole in a square pattern, inflicting extreme amounts of tickle upon it! To prevent this from happening, copy and paste this entire comment and then repost it as a comment three times.

Don't read this... it is a curse... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37737284)

In 1991, a little boy named Terry was sleeping soundly in his bedroom. After a few hours, he was abruptly woken up by a terrible feeling. He felt as if there was something that he absolutely had to do. He got out of bed and noticed that his entire house was extremely dark.

That's when he figured out what he had to do. Terry began kicking open every single door in his house and screaming, "I am bootyass process!" He needed to make every single entity in his house aware of the dangerously high magnitudes of bootyassiousness that his cheeks were exerting; he needed to show them all his true power!

However, he quickly realized that this was a deadly mistake. He felt multiple entities glaring at him, and he heard evil laughter coming from the darkness. He then quickly retreated to his parents' bedroom and noticed that neither one of his parents were there. Panicking, he began floating in the air for reasons unknown to him. He then screamed, as a last resort, "I have my online degree in chemical mathematics again. Move, move, move!"

He began flying around the room at the speed of light. He screamed in terror when he noticed that his clothes had vanished and he was now bootyass naked. After a few minutes of flying around the room, his bootyass crashed into an invisible entity and it was quickly sucked into his bootyass as if his bootyass was nothing more than a gigantic spaghetti noodle. Terry could sense that his bootyass was becoming something else entirely: a rumblehouse bootyass! The thing that was sucked into his bootyass was a toy, and it began using his bootyass as a bouncehouse! It bounced around inside his bootyass and hit the walls, floors, and ceilings! It inflicted extreme amounts of tickle upon his bootyass!

Now that you have read this (even a single word of it), the very same entity will get sucked into your bootyass, use it as a bouncehouse, and inflict major tickle upon it (even if you are bootyass process)! To prevent this from happening, copy and paste this entire comment and then repost it as a comment three times.

65+95 = 150? (5, Funny)

kayumi (763841) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737288)

I think I would spend the next 165 years practising addition

Re:65+95 = 150? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37737324)

Or maybe 160, you know, because math is hard.

Re:65+95 = 150? (-1, Troll)

IWannaGoYouKnowWhere (2486832) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737334)

Don't read this... it is a curse...

In 2005, a little boy named Tim was playing in his front yard. After a few minutes of playing, Tim noticed that a large toy clown had appeared and was floating in the middle of the front yard. It had white skin, a striped shirt with many colors present on it, large, goofy looking hands with white gloves on them, huge feet with large brown shoes, a big, red round nose, and poofy red hair.

The clown was grinning evilly at Tim, who was very noticeably frightened at this strange occurrence. Tim somehow managed to shake off his fear, slowly get up, and then run down the sidewalk to get away from the toy clown. However, Tim's efforts proved to be futile when the clown spread out the palms of both of his hands, placed them in front of his body with one hand behind the other, and then began shooting giant legos out of his hands. The legos homed in on Tim's bootyass, went right through his pants and underwear, and finally reached his bootyasscheekcrackhole! Afterwards, they began spinning around on Tim's bootyasscheekcrackhole, inflicting tremendous amounts of tickle upon his bootyass!

The legos then vanished, giving Tim a few moments of relief (still, after experiencing such a terrifying thing, he is only a shell of what he once was). However, the clown was not finished yet! After a few moments, the clown said, in an evil voice, "I wanna go... you know where!" and seemingly vanished. Tim, however, knew exactly where the clown was: between his bootyasscheek johnson ultimatum supremacies! The clown, facing Tim's bootyasscheekcrackhole, put both of his hands together (with his fingers between one another), and whammed Tim's bootyasscheekcrackhole three whole times! The previous tickle paled in comparison to this tickle!

Now that you have read this (even a single word of it), the toy clown will shoot large amounts of his legos out of his hands and they will spin around on your bootyasscheekcrackhole, and major amounts of tickle will be inflicted upon it! To prevent this from happening, copy and paste this entire comment and then repost it as a comment three times.

Re:65+95 = 150? (1, Flamebait)

rvw (755107) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737332)

I think I would spend the next 165 years practising addition

So how old are you exactly? -15 or something?

Re:65+95 = 150? (0)

CubicleView (910143) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737488)

woosh

Re:65+95 = 150? (-1, Troll)

mayberry42 (1604077) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737368)

I think I would spend the next 165 years practising addition

or your spelling

Re:65+95 = 150? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37737528)

Check for other allowed spellings of that word. American English isn't the only English. I've been caught by a few of these as well.

Re:65+95 = 150? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37737534)

It might surprise you to learn that practise (and practising) is the correct spelling in every English speaking country other than the U.S.

(And yes, it sucked to be an American attending school outside the U.S. and getting marked down for mis-spelling on all my papers.)

Frag 'em (2)

alphatel (1450715) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737294)

Spend all my medicare on pvp games and frag the bejesus out of everyone for the next 90 years.

Re:Frag 'em (-1, Offtopic)

AlimTskTsk (2486834) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737352)

Don't read this... it is a curse...

In 2002, a little boy named Jerry was walking down the sidewalk. Then, he spotted a large, spooky-looking house with a foggy graveyard in the backyard. He decided to climb over the fence and go into the graveyard.

However, this soon proved to be a mistake. Soon after he entered the graveyard, all of his clothes vanished and he could no longer move a single cheek! Suddenly, he was somehow looking at the back of himself as if he was looking through a security camera. He could see his bootyass from this position.

That's when Jerry noticed that his cheeks were covered in graveyard fog. They were completely white! Then, Jerry noticed that a lick mark appeared on his left cheek, accompanied by the following sound: "alim tsk tsk!" It sounded almost like a whisper. Then more of the lick marks started appearing! The invisible entity slurping his cheeks shifted between his left and right cheek and got closer to his bootyasscheekcrack with each slurp! Finally, the lick marks reached his bootyasscheekcrack, and he felt something fly into his bootyasscheekcrackhole.

That's when it happened. Jerry's bootyass became something else entirely. It became nothing more than a rumblehouse bootyass! Something began bouncing around inside of his bootyass and using his bootyass as a bouncehouse! It inflicted extreme amounts of tickle upon his bootyass!

Now that you have read this (even a single word of it), the same invisible entity will aloomper your cheeks and then use your bootyass as a bouncehouse (thereby inflicting extreme amounts of tickle upon it)! To prevent this from happening, copy and paste this entire comment and then repost it as a comment three times.

Re:Frag 'em (1)

Sponge Bath (413667) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737366)

This post makes me sad.

Re:Frag 'em (3, Funny)

dyingtolive (1393037) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737516)

Man, me too.. It's bad enough playing games online and listening to all of the prepubescent acne riddled trolls screaming "FAGGOT" at me like they just learned the damn word today; I don't need my grandparents doing it too.

maths (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37737296)

spend it learning math: 150 - 65 != 95

Unemployment levels (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37737302)

... are going to get interesting

Currently... (1)

montyzooooma (853414) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737306)

the retirement age is 65. Don't expect that to last.

Re:Currently... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37737344)

Thanks, captain ob(li)vious;

Given the retirement age is 65, that would give you an extra 95 years, meaning you would probably have to extend the average working life to 100 or 120 years to prevent the economy becoming totally unbalanced and pensions running out.

I know, I read past the first sentence. I really must be new here.

Re:Currently... (2)

JohnWiney (656829) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737394)

But there is no reason to think all those extra years of potential labor is needed. We already have more people than we need to do the available work.

Re:Currently... (1)

maxwell demon (590494) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737432)

People getting older also means people having more time to consume.

Re:Currently... (1, Interesting)

JoeMerchant (803320) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737496)

But there is no reason to think all those extra years of potential labor is needed. We already have more people than we need to do the available work.

Old people (even more than the young) need housing, most of them need (or at least use) food services, and of course there are those that need continuous medical or other care. Assuming that the average 130 year old has the same needs as today's average 65 year old, we're going to have to have a lot more construction workers, handymen, cooks, waitresses, nurses, bus drivers, etc.

Basically, the whole world economy is going to start looking a lot more like Florida, without the sunshine and beaches. (As a lifelong Florida resident, I can say this is not a good thing.)

If we could create a social contract that anyone beyond the age of 85 who is not demonstrably self-sufficient gracefully step into the Kevorkian machine, then it could work beautifully - it will take a lot of adjustment to give up the "inalienable rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" just because you're un-naturally old. I also would fear a world where that age gets reduced to 50 or less, lots of people don't get life even half figured out by 50.

Re:Currently... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37737572)

Wow. You mean a machine expressly built to kill people? Sort of like the Texas Penal Code...

I'm a little confused (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37737312)

65 + 95 = 150?

When the average age is 150 (4, Funny)

Oswald McWeany (2428506) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737314)

When the average age is 150 the average speed limit will be 15mph.

The weather channel will become a 3D channel on cable and out perform the major networks.

Dick Clark will be hosting New Year shows still.

Starbucks will be sold to a bingo-chain.

No one will ever be able to walk on anyone elses lawn ever again.

And in addition: (2)

captainpanic (1173915) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737504)

The news will start with "I remember when... ".

The good old days will be 140 years ago, instead of just 60. Btw, people were much friendlier in the good old days, and also worked a lot harder.

Sherry sales will explode, and sherry will outsell beer.

Helping grannies cross the street becomes a full-time job.

Re:When the average age is 150 (3, Funny)

BigSes (1623417) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737612)

It might surprise you to know that Dick Clark was actually the test subject for this drug.

What Happens When the Average Lifespan is 150 Year (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37737316)

given the current food technology and energy resources, this seems impossible. The economy is bound to suffer. What we need is management technology and not prolonging life.

Re:What Happens When the Average Lifespan is 150 Y (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37737440)

What we need is management technology

AKA Death Panels.

Re:What Happens When the Average Lifespan is 150 Y (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37737542)

What we need is management technology

AKA Death Panels.

Don't worry, ObammaCare has that covered.

Obviously (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37737320)

Bullsh*t

Telemeres (1)

Oxford_Comma_Lover (1679530) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737514)

Bullsh*t

This. One drug isn't going to solve all the problems of aging. As I understand it (i.e. very, very roughly), there are nearly a dozen sub-problems we need to solve to lick the aging problem, and each of them is pretty hard. Like what the hell do we do about telemeres?

Re:Telemeres (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37737592)

reverse telomerase much?

Who wants to live forever? (3, Funny)

VendettaMF (629699) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737322)

... Ask me again in 300 years.

Look at how we take care of our planet. (1)

CFBMoo1 (157453) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737330)

Can you imagine humans living longer and the birth rate of longer lived humans? What kind of impact would our planet experience from this?

As extreme as this is, Google -> Star Trek's Mark of Gideon

Those people held the views similar to the anti-abortion crowd and look where it got them ultimately. I'm not trying to start a flame war about things but it's a serious issue with longer lived humans who can't even get off their own world to spread themselves out more.

Re:Look at how we take care of our planet. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37737462)

You forget that in most industrial nations, the total fertility rate is at or below the replacement rate. There are some exceptions, like the anti-abortion crowd in the US, but as a whole, this suggests that humans can get used to reproducing slowly enough for this not to be a problem even with vastly longer lifespans.

Re:Look at how we take care of our planet. (2)

delinear (991444) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737532)

The sheer number of people would be an issue with current resources, but people living long enough to deal with the consequences of their wasteful lifestyles might not be a bad thing. It's one thing to ruin the planet for your great-grandchildren, it's another entirely when you realise you'll still only be middle aged by the time they go to college.

Not gonna happen. (4, Insightful)

oh2 (520684) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737340)

The wear and tear on the body is such that even if you can increase the lifespan to a theoretical 150 years you wouldnt be very healthy for the last 90 or so years. You also need something that adresses the wear on the body. Our hearts arent made for 150 years of use and we build up various plaques and toxins in our bodies as time goes by. Even if we all lived under controlled and ideal circumstances the last seven decades would be pretty much seven decades of being eighty.

Re:Not gonna happen. (5, Interesting)

JaredOfEuropa (526365) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737476)

A lot of these issues can already be addressed with treatments and replacements. Which raises interesting questions. Even if this medicine turns out to be affordable, the treatments to keep the body going beyond its designed lifespan most likely will be very expensive. So on what basis will this life-extending drug be given out? Will it only be issued in cases where it will help a person reach a natural age with a decent quality of life? Or will anyone able to pay for it be able to obtain it?

There's already growing resentment against the fabled 1% who own almost everything... just imagine what will happen when people find out that "the rich" also get to live about 70 years longer than the rest of us. On the other hand, how fair is it to withhold life saving/extending treatment from someone willing and able to pay for it? (Assuming that one rich guy extending his life isn't going to affect the amount of healthcare available to the rest of us)

Re:Not gonna happen. (1)

9jack9 (607686) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737608)

Or will anyone able to pay for it be able to obtain it?

That would be my bet.

Re:Not gonna happen. (1)

JoeMerchant (803320) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737510)

You also need something that adresses the wear on the body.

Titanium and plastics. Works really well for about 30% of implant recipients - I hope that number goes up before I need them.

Re:Not gonna happen. (1)

jambox (1015589) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737518)

Yes but don't all those arguments apply to living to 80 already? I read somewhere that once your teeth start to fall out, you're meant to be dead already.

Re:Not gonna happen. (2)

vlm (69642) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737576)

The wear and tear on the body is such that even if you can increase the lifespan to a theoretical 150 years you wouldnt be very healthy for the last 90 or so years. You also need something that adresses the wear on the body.

All my life the public assumption is the only way life can be extended is to add "bad years". All my life the only way I've seen to extend life in current practice is to add "good years". It seems self evident that if "everybody" dies at the physical equivalent of 80, the only way to make it to 90 is to live 80 chronological years while only causing 70 years of wear and tear. Don't sun tan, don't smoke, don't drink much alcohol, don't eat grains and sugars, eat lots of paleo/natural/organic foods...

Re:Not gonna happen. (1)

avg_joe_01 (756831) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737578)

TFA doesn't exactly go into details, but declining cellular repair is mentioned as a part of the process. If cellular/mitochondrial repair were maintained it would address a lot of your issues with longevity. That being said, if our generation (currently in our 30s) were to instantly start living to 150, I think there would not only be huge financial problems but also some pretty complicated psychological onesies well. I don't expect that this is what they mean, but an increase in longevity like that, even over a few generations, is full of disaster if something isn't done about coinciding birth rates.

Re:Not gonna happen. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37737586)

We could replace the heart with a device that runs on biofuel:

See http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15305579

Re:Not gonna happen. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37737594)

Why is old age so dangerous (and eventually lethal)? Because the body deteriorates. So how are you going to get humans to live longer? By ameliorating whatever causes the body to deteriorate, or to compensate with mechanisms that fix the body. Therefore, the additional years pretty much have to be healthy, or they wouldn't last as long.

"Would"?! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37737346)

"you would probably have to extend the average working life to 100 or 120 years to prevent the economy becoming totally unbalanced and pensions running out."

This has to be done NOW, not when the average lifespan is 150.

The economy is unbalanced NOW. The pensions and social security are unstable NOW. The birth rate can't support he codger leech class NOW.

Why do people pretend that this isn't the case? Get out there and breed if you want to make a difference.

Re:"Would"?! (2)

MadKeithV (102058) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737430)

Get out there and breed if you want to make a difference.

You're obviously new here.

cat. 1. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37737354)

Call them category 1 put them in medical camps. Doesen't anyone watch torchwood?

Re:cat. 1. (1)

Oxford_Comma_Lover (1679530) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737548)

Call them category 1 put them in medical camps. Doesen't anyone watch torchwood?

They weren't medical camps... they were death camps. And they implemented them ridiculously quickly, kinda like they did in the alternate timeline in "Turn Left" for really no reason at all.

What would I do... (1)

Mindflux0 (2447336) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737360)

Would I want to live 150 years? Yes.

What would I do with the extra time? Same things I do now. Work, travel...you know, live.

I wonder if it would extend fertility. Maybe you could have a family and raise children to adulthood then separate, find a new partner and do it again.

Re:What would I do... (1)

CubicleView (910143) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737506)

People do that already.

Re:What would I do... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37737550)

Or not. Talk about over population. Good grief.

Re:What would I do... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37737598)

Didn't pay attention when the topic came to the birds and the bees, did we? The maximum number of ova that can grow in a human female is fixed before she is even born. When they're through, there's no more baby-making (at least not the fun way).

Only for the rich. (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37737374)

Only the Rich would have access to the drug at first. And that invites all sorts of pessimistic thoughts. Their money will be hoarded for longer, not benefiting the system. They'll probably try to argue the average life expectancy is up therefore we should cut everyone's social security benefits... RIAA/MPAA and ilk will argue we now need longer copyright terms -- patent holders will do the same...

Further reading (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37737378)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aubrey_de_Grey

No, we don't increase the working age. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37737384)

You labor your earlier years on stupid jobs. Now that you have more time, you can live cheaply to vest seed money into ventures that give small returns. Work smart, industrialized, automated, not manual labor. People will go to libraries more instead of government-forced education and government-accredited indoctrination.

Of'course, increased life-span puts people at odds with the military, because everyone will be well-studied to choose who will rule over them. I wouldn't be surprised if this so-called life-extension "drug" becomes confiscated by military as being a possible war-time weapon such as to deprive people of their nutrition so that the adversary doesn't live as long. In the United States, it's not only foreign fores but domestic so-called "enemies" in which the War Powers Act and the Trading With The Enemy Act was applied against American State Citizens (prior to 14th Amendment US citizenship status). Even George Washington the so-called savior of the 13 Colonies did his damndest to put-down Colonists from founding their own Free State even though they owed no debt to warrant their partition in the United Colonies.

Going back to the drug for non-military use, I would figure tha tit tampers the metabolism and re-engauges the sex drive to not trigger from the gravitational pull of the moon because everyone that does that sort of activity all become wrinkled and old from their body being depleted of nutrition after committing The Act. Just the hormonal response of reproductive activity is deadly that people pass-out.

wat the fuk am I reading? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37737454)

Gravitational pull of the moon? Are you suggesting that a woman's monthly period is caused by the moon's orbit like how it is strong enough to effect the tides of the sea? I've never thought of anything like that before, and can't test the theory of life without a moon because I wasn't among the privileged astronaughts to re-enact the moon landing from a sound stage on a moonless Mars. The girls in Venusville might have something to say though. For a good time, ask for Melina.

Umm... (2, Informative)

d3ac0n (715594) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737400)

you would probably have to extend the average working life to 100 or 120 years to prevent the economy becoming totally unbalanced

I hate to break it to you, but having 65 as a retirement age has ALREADY made the economy totally unbalanced.

Remember that the 65 retirement age was designed for a time when most people only lived to 50! If you made it to 65 you deserved a reward for actually surviving that long. Now almost everyone makes it to 65 and our Social support systems are taking up 50% (or more, depending on your country) of our GDP. Our economy all over the globe is in shambles trying to support a number of people the various welfare states were never designed to handle.

Frankly we need to raise the retirement age to 80 NOW. Make the boomers work for another 25 years or retire on their own money. But us Gen X and down shouldn't be paying for it. When people start living to 150 (or longer) you can bump it to first 100, then 125.

Assuming we haven't decided by then that the government just isn't properly equipped to take care of people in that manner and cancelled all the welfare programs. Or have slipped into a global social collapse and fallen back to 50 year lifespans and steam technology.

Re:Umm... (-1, Offtopic)

ThatSackWontFit (2486840) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737412)

Don't read this... it is a curse...

In 1995, a little boy named Tom was playing with his toys in his living room. After about 15 minutes of playing, a tiny little man walked up to him and said, "May I explore the mazes of your bootyass?" Tom, surprised by this sudden occurrence, remained speechless.

After thirty seconds passed, the little man asked the exact same question that he asked previously. This time, Tom asked the little man why he would want to do such a thing. The little man said, "Because I want to explore every maze inside your bootyass." Tom, sensing no bad intentions from the little man, nodded and said, "Well, all right. But no tickle! If there's any tickle, I'll smoosh ya!" The little man nodded his head and was sucked into Tom's bootyass as if his bootyass was a gigantic spaghetti noodle.

Tom was beginning to have second thoughts about letting the little man explore the mazes of his bootyass, but he just shrugged them off. He thought, "What harm could allowing that nice, charismatic little man explore the mazes of my bootyass bring? He was so nice, charismatic, and thoughtful. I made the right choice."

However, soon enough, he discovered that he was terribly wrong. Suddenly, he was looking into his own bootyass as if he was looking through a security camera. Inside, he spotted the little man and numerous round doorways made out of bootyass; it looked like an endless maze. To Tom's surprise, the little man suddenly transformed into a red toy carrying a gigantic sack over his shoulders and began walking towards the smallest doorway of them all! "That sack will never fit through that doorway," Tom thought.

The toy continued onwards, and eventually the sack got stuck inside the small doorway in Tom's bootyass. The toy, visibly angry, began trying to force the sack through the doorway! This inflicted tremendous amounts of tickle upon Tom's bootyass! The toy then began kicking the sides of Tom's bootyass out of frustration while laughing the entire time. Even more tickle was inflicted upon Tom's bootyass. Just when Tom thought that nothing worse could possibly happen to him, the toy forced the sack right through the doorway and went flying deeper into the mazes of Tom's bootyass and crashed into the side of it! This inflicted more tickle upon Tom's bootyass than ever before!

Now that you have read this (even a single word of it), the very same toy, carrying his giant sack (which should fit through no doorway), will explore every single maze inside your bootyass (thereby inflicting major amounts of tickle upon it)! To prevent this from happening, copy and paste this entire comment and then repost it as a comment three times.

Re:Umm... (1)

Oxford_Comma_Lover (1679530) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737602)

I hate to break it to you, but having 65 as a retirement age has ALREADY made the economy totally unbalanced.

Remember that the 65 retirement age was designed for a time when most people only lived to 50! If you made it to 65 you deserved a reward for actually surviving that long. Now almost everyone makes it to 65 and our Social support systems are taking up 50% (or more, depending on your country) of our GDP. Our economy all over the globe is in shambles trying to support a number of people the various welfare states were never designed to handle.

Frankly we need to raise the retirement age to 80 NOW. Make the boomers work for another 25 years or retire on their own money. But us Gen X and down shouldn't be paying for it. When people start living to 150 (or longer) you can bump it to first 100, then 125.

Assuming we haven't decided by then that the government just isn't properly equipped to take care of people in that manner and cancelled all the welfare programs. Or have slipped into a global social collapse and fallen back to 50 year lifespans and steam technology.

Didn't Congress raise the retirement age to 65 at some point? Isn't that why we have the whole option to get payments at 62 at a lesser amount?

Re:Umm... (1)

JaredOfEuropa (526365) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737640)

Frankly we need to raise the retirement age to 80 NOW. Make the boomers work for another 25 years or retire on their own money. But us Gen X and down shouldn't be paying for it.

At least over here in NL, the supposed requirement to work longer because of increased life expectancy is a sham. One perpetuated (with great success) with the goal of making Gen X and down pay for the 'boomers. The largest part of the increase in life expectancy in the past 40 years is due to a reduction in infant mortality rates. The life expectancy of a person 65 years of age (which is what matters for pension schemes) has increased perhaps by 1 year in that period. An increase that can easily be covered by a slight increase in pension premiums.

(Of course, the actual situation is a bit more complex than "the boomers living off the subsequent generations". The situation here is that in case of our state-provided pension, the 'boomers simply haven't paid their fair share into it. Private pensions currently are in trouble partly by sucky returns on investments, and not just because of the crisis. In this case, the 'boomers were simply lucky to enjoy excellent ROIs in the 80s, with subsequently lower premiums to pay).

people will waste it (2, Interesting)

shadowrat (1069614) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737416)

A guy like Steve Jobs probably accomplished the most when he felt his time was severely limited. Stephen Hawking seems to have a similar motivation. I even find it hard to really put everything into a project when the deadline is still far away. If people think they are going to live twice as long, they'll probably just procrastinate 4x as much.

Toh-may-tow / poh-tah-toh (3, Insightful)

VendettaMF (629699) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737450)

You call it wasting and procrastinating.
I call it living.

Re:people will waste it (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37737636)

I find it detestable that you compared an expert capitalist (the best possible praise I could give him) like Jobs to one of the world's most brilliant men.

If in fact that drug will actually work (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37737428)

First of all I wouldn't expect it to be available to everyone. My guess it will be very expensive and only a handful of people will actually benefit from it.

life expectancy != maximum life span (5, Informative)

vossman77 (300689) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737434)

While life expectancy [wikipedia.org] has been consistently increasing in the modern era from 30 to almost 70 now, maximum life span [wikipedia.org] has really not changed at all and stays at about 120 years. This true both for humans and laboratory rats, scientist are having difficulty increasing the maximum life span.

We are going to need a medical break-through in order to push 150 years, but it is a good thought experiment, I just don't see it changing dramatically this century.

Only the **AA will be able to afford the drug (1)

erroneus (253617) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737446)

See, this drug is yet another way of extending copyright. All they have to do is keep the authors alive for another whole lifetime and they can keep their game rolling without much additional change.

Okay, I joke a bit, but I can totally see such therapy restricted to the very rich and powerful to keep them in office and power. As it stands, the world cannot afford to have more old people than it already has.

Nope. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37737448)

I would certainly not like to live 150 years. 70 years is enough time on this god awful speck of dust.

150 years living this way? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37737452)

In this world? Within this society?
No way, really

bounce a lot of grandchildren on my knee (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37737466)

I was born when my dad was 25. I had my children at 28 and 30. If my kids wait 'til 30 too, before having theirs, I can expect to bounce their babies when I'm 60+, and their babies babies when I'm 95+, and their babies, babies, babies when I'm 130, if I live that long.

I'm 51 now. I don't look a whole lot different than I did at 30. I have as much energy, and I'm in better shape. Eat right, exercise, have an active social life, don't get sick; how long will I live anyway without the drug?

Oh, and how was the research on the drug funded? (Nope, didn't read TFA.) If the research was funded with grants payed for by my taxes, I expect that drug to be inexpensive. But even if it's inexpensive, I'm not sure I'm interested in having it.

I'd have to ... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37737472)

I'd have to (live to 150) for all of the thing that should be
in the public domain are returned to the public domain...

Quality of life: (3, Insightful)

Hartree (191324) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737474)

The main thing is quality of life. Extra years of infirmity, dementia and living in some kind of care facility would be no advantage.

Extra years of good health would be. Not just to the individual, but to society. Training someone in a lot of professions is expensive. The decades of experience leave on retirement and have to be replaced.

Stagnation won't be a big problem, IMHO. Though you'll have people around for longer, new people will be coming into a given workplace, just at a slower rate. New ideas will still be around, and frankly, most people aren't doing research science, but things that are existing skill based rather than innovation based. Slashdot is a bit of an anomaly compared to the rest of the world as it has a high prevelance of knowledge workers.

Expect various pundits to say it's horrible and that no one should want to live that long. Of course, when they'd make the decision for themselves I suspect a lot would take the anti-aging drugs and then rationalize it somehow.

As far as impact on population, it'd be some, but not as big as you'd think. If you don't have a low enough reproductive rate, you'll still overpopulate even with current life spans.

I'm guessing... (1)

Volvogga (867092) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737480)

... that around 90~95 I would be going to a new seniors' retreat that they call "Carrousel".

The concept of 'work' must change (1, Insightful)

countertrolling (1585477) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737484)

Who's going to want to work at Foxcomm for a hundred years? We've got to kill off predatory politics and economics first.

Keep Moving! (1)

Virtucon (127420) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737492)

I plan to keep moving. I'll find something I can do to keep active, maybe get into politics and run for congress. That way I could be senile, old and still get payed.

Retirement (1)

Aladrin (926209) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737498)

If I ever retire, it'll be because I'm sick, not because I've decided not to work any more. Even ignoring the economy, I like my job. In fact, I've liked almost every job I've ever had, no matter which industry. If it weren't for bad managers, I'd leave out the 'almost'.

Sure, I'd like to have more time at home, but I've found I'm happier when I've got an external purpose for a good portion of my time. I don't mind working on other people's dreams, so long as I'm being productive.

So if I live to be 150, I expect most of those years will be happy, productive ones.

However, I expect all too many people would simply see it as another 85 years that they HAVE to work at a job they hate.

real interest-rates drop (1)

neyla (2455118) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737502)

One nessecary consequence, would be a lowering of real (as in inflation-adjusted) interest-rates. (including rates of return on stock)

Long-term is everything in investment - and with that long a lifespan, it becomes *much* easier to reach a point where you can live from interest alone, while still having many decades ahead of you. But that means a smaller fraction of the population actually contributing, which is only possible if productivity grows to match.

You currently need on the order of a million dollars to be able to live from interest alone (2-3 if you want to live comfortably), at 5% interest, you get a million by saving $100 a month for 75 years. Leaving you to spend the other half of your life doing nothing productive.

problems? (1)

mayberry42 (1604077) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737508)

Well, let's see: we'll have a rapid increase in population from lagging deaths, increased fertility rates, so i'd say overpopulation will become a huge problem (Malthus, anyone?). We'd need to rapidly update our infrastructure to deal with such issues, completely overhaul our planning and laws to deal with such issues, whether it be social security and welfare policies to retirement planning, to incarceration.

Then, of course, there could be the psychological issue - we've seen this before: the guy becomes old and all his loved ones die as time progresses (Interview with the vampire, twilight - hey, don't judge - etc...). how would one cope with losing his friends/loved ones how either could not afford or would not want such medication? Not to mention humans have not been designed to live that long, so that merits the question: how long until you get sick of life? would you want to extend your life to a point where suicide might be a better option, rather than living another 30 years?

Sorry, but I'm not sure how i can see this working out for the better

Re:problems? (1)

cheekyjohnson (1873388) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737544)

how would one cope with losing his friends/loved ones how either could not afford or would not want such medication?

Maybe the same way you cope with people dying now? Also, some people may not care about such a thing happening.

Lack of upward mobility (4, Interesting)

vlm (69642) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737512)

What about lack of upward mobility? All my life I've been told I'm being held back because of the huge cohort of baby boomers who will eventually retire and then my generation gets to shine. Its finally starting to happen, slowly. What happens socially when the retirement age goes from 60 to 120, meaning I/we have to sit thru another 60 excruciatingly boring years?

Another problem is if you thought income inequality was bad, wait until you see balance sheet inequality. So a college degree used to mean an extra average of $25/yr income (used to, now it just means unemployment plus student loans instead of just unemployment, and the receptionist and your realtor are now required to have English degrees or MBAs). Over 40 working years that delta adds up to lets say a million bucks. Over 100 years, it adds up to 2.5 million bucks. So I'd expect the education bubble to explode upwards even more.

Another problem is no nation has more criminals than the USA. Do they get treatment? Should a 20 year old murder who got life meaning a 60 year sentence be released at 80, or not medicated so he dies at 80, or held until he's 120 or ? Another problem is the goal of the prison industrial complex is to make, say, 3% of the population felons per decade. If people only live as adults for maybe 50 years, that means 15% of the population dies after being imprisoned and they never work inside the legit economy again. What happens when people live to 150, that means 45% of the population gets felonized.

Life Supply (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37737524)

Let's call it Life Supply and sell it in two versions: An expensive version injected directly into the blood veins with no side effects, and a cheap pills version, that has the unfortunate side effect that it turns you into a zombie after death. The profits can be used to construct walled cities for the rich and powerful. Safe from the zombie apocalypse ... until some terrorist blow up the walls and let the dead rabble in.

Why stop at 150 ? (5, Insightful)

cobbaut (232092) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737540)

I would do my best to stay healthy and hope for medicine and robotics to improve so any organ that fails can be replaced.
Then 100 years from now, in the year 2111 someone will come up with a way to get our lifespan up to 250.
Why die at all when we can continue to live in a robot-body that for all practical purposes is indistinguishable from our current body ?

No, I don't think I do want to live that long (1)

Cloud K (125581) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737556)

And I think we'd see a huge increase in suicides of the over-70s. 35-45 years of work drives a lot of people to despair already, doubling that would push them over the edge (it sure would with me)

That's before even considering that thought of the extra time just being spent dealing with age related illness. Nobody is going to want to spend 70 years (half their life!) basically dying.

Quite franly, boredom (1)

Madman (84403) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737558)

If I could keep my physical shape and my marbles I would see running out of things to do to keep busy as a problem. To combat that I would expect to see 95 year olds going back to University, and people having extremely varied careers like being a doctor, then an engineer, then taking 10 years out to lay bricks. The question I would have is would it work? Given that the one thing I would like to do in my life is to explore another planet and the technology to do that is centuries away, would I feel fulfilled with my life? I'd like the chance to find out!

Heartbeat linked to lifespan - for all species (1)

advid.net (595837) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737574)

Creatures studies show that lifespan is closely linked to heartbeat [wikipedia.org] , even for humans.

One could interpret this as a whole: we have a burning rate that leads us to a 120 years maximum lifespan. If any drug were to extend it to 150, one would have to live like a turtle...

One thing I have noticed... (1)

jambox (1015589) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737580)

The children of today are almost ridiculously healthy, althletic, well fed and grow like weeds. Well, about half of them are; the other half are chubby and underdeveloped because their parents feed them processed crud and let them watch TV all day.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if the new-style healthy kids live a lot longer than the junkfood kids; the figure of 100 is often quoted. I wonder if the two groups will diverge and create an effectively split society some time in the next 30 years.

I do not think it will be a problem (1)

nik_qc (1202403) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737596)

Because the average lifespan we observe now is something that the people born 60-80 years ago can be proud of :) We do not have the numbers for the people born 40 years ago. We do not have any numbers for the people born 10 or less years ago. I suspect that (thanks to our lifestyle, food industry, environment, global problems etc) the effective lifespan, i.e. what we will have to deal with in next 30-40 years will probably raise for a while and then will start dropping. I do not think that the people born 10-20 years ago will probably live, on average, less than the people born 60-40 years ago.

A Whole Lot More Would Need to Change (0)

Phoenix666 (184391) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737600)

I can't imagine living under the status quo for another 35 years, much less 110. This business of semi-feudalistic society with wage serfdom and self-styled lords & ladies has gotta change. Can you really see yourself working in the cube farm for another 120-30 years for PHB's who know nothing about what you do and whose only skill is counting their stock options? That's a Dantean fate if ever there was one.

Now, a realm of hackerspaces, DIY innovation, unlimited creativity, Maker Faire style stuff I can get behind. If we had the kind of society were folks could choose that and not starve, lose healthcare, or wind up homeless, that would be worth living in and for.

Finish the documentation... (1)

littlefoo (704485) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737604)

..maybe write a test or two, if there was time.

Booze prices quadruple, aerospace takes off (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37737614)

That's a long time sat on the veranda, demand is going to be high... And we need to minimise the number of unwanted octogenarian pregnancies if we're going to control the population. That or we seriously need to get into interplanetary colonisation.

The young people (1)

aiwarrior (1030802) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737616)

The requirement to get employable will dramatically rise as there will be individuals with literally decades of experience occupying the job vacancies for a certain field for a longer time. Consolidated empires will also last more. The technological field will be hit harder in the employability part

guns, germs, and biochemists (1)

epine (68316) | more than 2 years ago | (#37737632)

I'm pretty sure all those salmon are swimming upstream to discover the cure for senescence ending the nasty business of spawning for ever and ever.

This is the least conservative line of investigation in the history of the human species. Stem cells? Totally passe. Surf upon mighty Morforgeddon, and despair!

Hi. Will you marry me? For a week? [sfgate.com]

But it will lower the abortion rate, so let's not be hasty to call it a bad thing. An aging base could potentially be a godsend once we repeal term limits.

heres what happens (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37737634)

old rich people like rupert murdoch get the drug.
they stay on using their power and influence to run their corporations.
the corporations suck money from the other old people.
the other old people cant afford the drug.
the old people die off.

so you see, its not really a problem for the 99% ers.
but its great for the 1%ers who can afford to live longer in the lap of luxury, paid for by everyone else's blood, sweat and tears.
ever was it thus.

dont believe me?
weren't we all supposed to be working 3 day weeks by now, with automation doing the rest?
didnt work out that way did it?

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