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Ask Slashdot: Which Android Phone (and Carrier) For WiFi Proxy Support?

timothy posted more than 2 years ago | from the good-luck-with-all-that dept.

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frisket writes "My current phone contract is about to run out, and I'm due a phone upgrade. My HTC Hero has been fine except for the notorious lack of Android proxy support for wireless connections, so I want a new Android phone which provides this. None of the phone companies hereabouts (Ireland) seems to know anything about this, and the forums offer conflicting advice. Is it true that wifi proxy support is disabled to force users to use their phone company's IP connection? What choices do I have (if any)?"

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PDAnet (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37752070)

Go download PDAnet

Re:PDAnet (1)

Kenja (541830) | more than 2 years ago | (#37752468)

"WiFi" - This refers to using wireless networking to connect to the Android phone and access the 3G/4G network. Can not use PDAnet for that.

Answer: unlocked phone (1)

AliasMarlowe (1042386) | more than 2 years ago | (#37752766)

He needs to buy an unlocked Android phone which will likely do what he wants, rather than taking the tangled web of incapability that is packaged into one supplied by the phone company.

My daughter's stock HTC Desire Z has no restrictions on using WiFi access points, or using her unlimited data plan for tethering. We pay a whole 5 euro per month for that plan, and it really has no usage limits. Of course, we also pay 4 cents per call, so her monthly bill is usually between 10 and 15 euro.

Re:Answer: unlocked phone (1)

rwa2 (4391) | more than 2 years ago | (#37753190)

I too am unsure what exactly the submitter is trying to do.

But my oldskool HTC myTouch Slide 3G and my wife's HTC myTouch 4G running CyanogenMOD [cyanogenmod.com] 7.x supports just about everything on the T-Mobile network.

Wifi & USB tethering work, so I can connect my laptop and/or other people's devices to the internet over HSDPA

Phone calls over wifi works, though I haven't really bothered to test it yet. But this sounds useful if you spend a lot of time somewhere with wifi but poor phone reception.

The Dolphin HD browser supports user agent tags, in case he's trying to use a proxy so websites will stop giving you the mobile version.

Opera Browser Mini will sort of proxy everything through Opera's render servers.

Could just use androidVNC to remotely operate a browser on your home machine.

I simply just use ConnectBot to ssh into a screen session on my home machine to do most stuff.

Also, if he just wants to configure a traditional http proxy on Android, LMGTFY provides a pretty straightforward though somewhat arcane solution (halfway down the page after the "just use Opera" entry: http://www.techxilla.com/2011/01/17/proxy-settings-for-android/ [techxilla.com]

Re:Answer: unlocked phone (1)

jetole (1242490) | more than 2 years ago | (#37754842)

I agree that any cyanogenmod supported phone is plenty. You can get a phone from the carrier if you want. As long as cyanogenmod says it's supported then you root the phone, install cyanogenmod and can use you phone as a WiFi to 3G/4G hub without requiring any support from your carrier or even for them to understand what it is you are doing. I have used my CM7 powered Evo 4G as a WiFi hotspot for my laptop from time to time without having any contract or support from my carrier to enable this feature.

On which carrier? (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 2 years ago | (#37753240)

He needs to buy an unlocked Android phone which will likely do what he wants

Are there any U.S. carriers left that 1. accept unlocked phones onto their network and 2. give a discount for not taking a subsidized phone? T-Mobile has the "Even More Plus" SIM-only plan that's cheaper than plans that include a phone, but everything I've seen from AT&T suggests that AT&T will discontinue this plan once it finishes buying T-Mobile.

Re:On which carrier? (1)

cfulton (543949) | more than 2 years ago | (#37754040)

T-Mobile will let you run an unlocked phone. As long as it takes a SIM card you just put yours in and you are on the T-Mobile network. I have used them for a long time and always used unlocked phones. I've even had their customer service help me with setting up a modem on a phone they didn't support. They don't give any discount for not buying one of their phones but, you don't have to extend your plan etc. My new phone is a stock Samsung Galaxy 3G. It tethers, attaches to my WIFI, mail, maps, WIFI calling; all of it with no problems. Hope that helps.

Re:On which carrier? (1)

mspohr (589790) | more than 2 years ago | (#37754678)

I have two unlocked Android Nexus One phones. One is on the T-mobile network on a pay as you go plan. I pay 10 cents a minute for calls and $1.49 a day for unlimited net access (which I usually only use a few days a month)... I only spend about $10 a month. My wife's Nexus One is on ATT where she has a $50/month unlimited talk, text and web plan. This is a substantial discount from their "free phone" plans.

Re:Answer: unlocked phone (1)

Creepy (93888) | more than 2 years ago | (#37753572)

Not sure about other carriers, but in the US on Verizon you can't even tether one device without paying more than your whole plan ($30 per device, I believe, which is ~22 Euro right now).

Add in $20 for texting, $10-30 for internet (depending on use, unlimited is no longer available from the top 3 carriers), and a minimum of $30 for basic phone service and you can see the ass fscking we get in America.

Yes, there are better plans if you don't ever leave a city center, but I travel to areas that are not covered by anyone but Verizon (and yes, I tested both Sprint and AT&T, and neither got reception at my grandparent's house, and AT&T barely got reception along the main road near there, which is a major road, but not a freeway). Verizon got 5 bars...

Re:Answer: unlocked phone (2)

frisket (149522) | more than 2 years ago | (#37755602)

All Android phones are unlocked here by default.

I obviously didn't make it plain what I wanted to do. I want to be able to use wireless access points which run proxy servers behind them (all industrial and campus networks, for example). This is a standard setting on all devices except Androids, where the facility for specifying a proxy was left out. (Weirdly, it was included in the settings for 3G connections, where it is never needed, but omitted from regular wifi configs, where it is common. Go figure.) Regular wifi at home, in cafés, etc works fine: it's only APs that sit in front of proxies that cause problems.

Perhaps... (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 2 years ago | (#37752090)

Not so much a matter of the phone companies not knowing about it, but not knowing about it with the kind of vigor a dieter is aware of a big slice of chocolate cake, but is determined not to eat it. I wouldn't expect much help from them.

I won't do contracts again, myself, so I'm quite interested to see what pops up here. Mobile phone service companies are nearly as evil as the Nazgul as far as I'm concerned.

Re:Perhaps... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37752154)

Mobile phone service companies are nearly as evil as the Nazgul as far as I'm concerned.

You can say that with a straight face?

Re:Perhaps... (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 2 years ago | (#37752204)

Mobile phone service companies are nearly as evil as the Nazgul as far as I'm concerned.

You can say that with a straight face?

Well, I know the Nazgul try, but they just can't get up to that level of evil.

Re:Perhaps... (1)

The Dawn Of Time (2115350) | more than 2 years ago | (#37752756)

Nothing like watering down the meaning of the word "evil" to "I don't like having to pay for phone service."

Re:Perhaps... (1)

chaboud (231590) | more than 2 years ago | (#37752842)

I think it was a joke, but I don't take exception to people ragging on oligopolistic abuses of public resources.

Not many people outside of phone companies will side morally with them. Amoral? Yes. Immoral? Maybe. Moral?

No need to let it get to you.

Re:Perhaps... (1)

hedwards (940851) | more than 2 years ago | (#37752952)

Nothing like making a false accusation to show people you're involved in the conversation.

It's not paying for phone service that folks object to, it's having to select between carriers that charge too much for the service because the corporations are engaged in anticompetitive behavior. It might water evil down a bit, but it's definitely not above the board.

Root FTW (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37752104)

I would estimate 90% of Android phones once rooted will be able to do this without a problem. Without rooting your phone your alternatives are: 1. Pay your phone company $XX per month to provide this otherwise free service. 2. Find a carrier that will allow tethering (The common name for phone proxy) by default (RARE). 3. Use an app such as PDANet (Limited functionality and some one-time cost, along with software being required on your computer).

There are ALWAYS risks to rooting a phone, but I for one believe that this one feature is sufficiently beneficial to proceed with rooting.

Re:Root FTW (1)

Zerth (26112) | more than 2 years ago | (#37752182)

I could be wrong, but it looks more like he is talking about using WiFi connections to pull data instead of the cellular connection, which is what happens whenever I update my text-to-speech software(which downloads a 250 MB dataset).

However, the browser doesn't do the same thing unless I explicitly disable the cell antenna(unless the settings are somewhere else).

Re:Root FTW (1)

chaboud (231590) | more than 2 years ago | (#37752884)

He's talking about using his phone as a mifi, which he can easily get by rooting or buying a non-carrier phone...

Data plan without a phone (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 2 years ago | (#37753316)

If I buy a non-carrier phone, how do I get a data plan without a subsidized phone? I asked at an AT&T store about plans without a phone, and they were just as expensive per month as plans with a phone. The only other nationwide GSM carrier in my country offers a cheaper plan without a phone, but that'll probably end once it finishes selling its soul to AT&T.

What is Wifi Proxy Support? (2)

hawguy (1600213) | more than 2 years ago | (#37752106)

What is Wifi Proxy Support?

Re:What is Wifi Proxy Support? (1)

Aryden (1872756) | more than 2 years ago | (#37752148)

tethering.

Re:What is Wifi Proxy Support? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37752184)

You mean using the phone as a WiFi Access Point or letting the phone act as bridge between the WiFi AP and your machine? My HTC Desire Z acts as a wifi hotspot out of the box already. Does it actually mean setting up the phone outgoing traffic to use a proxy perhaps? What a dumb name for it.

Re:What is Wifi Proxy Support? (1)

CohibaVancouver (864662) | more than 2 years ago | (#37752206)

Well, it's WiFi, so technically, tetherless tethering. Kind of like wireless cable.

Re:What is Wifi Proxy Support? (2)

Sancho (17056) | more than 2 years ago | (#37752496)

I knew someone who gave away free wireless ethernet cables with purchase of a wifi card. Until it became too much trouble to explain the empty boxes.

Re:What is Wifi Proxy Support? (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 2 years ago | (#37753330)

I knew someone who gave away free wireless ethernet cables with purchase of a wifi card. Until it became too much trouble to explain the empty boxes.

He could have at least included the antenna in the box, as that's the closest thing to a cable in Wi-Fi.

Re:What is Wifi Proxy Support? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37752282)

Not tethering. Support for captive wifi portals (usually found in airports). Proxies that you have to agree some terms or enter your credit card details to allow you access

Re:What is Wifi Proxy Support? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37752336)

No, he means his WiFi provider uses a proxy server for web browsing, but the built-in web browser on his android doesn't support changing the proxy settings based on network routing.

At least, that's what I think WiFi proxy means. Maybe it's something else. But it's an Ask Slashdot "edited" into something almost unintelligible by timothy, so it's possible that the guy originally had a question about his dishwasher, for all I know.

Re:What is Wifi Proxy Support? (1)

tixxit (1107127) | more than 2 years ago | (#37752648)

Hrm... I've never tried wirelessly tethering my phone, but my HTC Hero can be tethered with a normal USB cable. I used it quite a lot during my last road trip w/ the wife. However, I suspect that these types of features have much more to do with the carrier than the phone itself. My carrier allows tethering with its data plans, but I've heard of ones that don't.

Re:What is Wifi Proxy Support? (2)

__Paul__ (1570) | more than 2 years ago | (#37753504)

No, he doesn't mean tethering. Android phones can already do tethering.

What they can't do - and Android is very notorious for this - is use a web proxy over their wifi connections. It's a bug that annoys many Android users, but Google is either refusing to fix, or just plain ignoring.

Re:What is Wifi Proxy Support? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37754948)

How do you get 'tethering' from 'proxy'?

Re:What is Wifi Proxy Support? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37752162)

I think he means tethering? Not sure why he said "proxy" if that's what he means...

Re:What is Wifi Proxy Support? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37752262)

Because he's a retard. Plain and simple.

Re:What is Wifi Proxy Support? (3, Informative)

frisket (149522) | more than 2 years ago | (#37755672)

It's when a wireless access point sends packets to the Internet via a proxy server. This is standard on all large-scale wireless networks (eg industrial, campus, conference centre, etc). Lack of proxy support means I can connect to the AP, but my web/mail/twitter/etc requests go nowhere because the device is sending them to the AP instead of to the proxy.

All comments below about proxy support being something to do with tethering are complete rubbish.

Barnacle is the droid you are looking for (2, Interesting)

jeffmeden (135043) | more than 2 years ago | (#37752166)

Root your phone and install a copy of Barnacle Wi-Fi tether. It works on just about any Android phone with a 2g/3g data connection, it is lightweight and easy to set up. At an MSRP of free, it won't break the bank. All hail our open source overlords!

Re:Barnacle is the droid you are looking for (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37752454)

Could you please define MSRP for those of us who operate in other domains. My Super Rich Parents? Money Safely Restored to your Pants? Mobile Service Redaction Plan? Make Services Rithout Paying?

Re:Barnacle is the droid you are looking for (1)

MindStalker (22827) | more than 2 years ago | (#37752620)

Manufacturers Suggested Retail Price.

Re:Barnacle is the droid you are looking for (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37755446)

I would think with a low 6 digit ID you would take a moment to think about your reply before you hit submit.

he wants to set a PROXY on his wifi connection. Ya know , the same way a desktop can be configured to use a non transparent proxy.

http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1273 for one example of the complaint.

Almost any Android (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37752186)

Any android you can root you can NAT through, this is not a new feature. Look at Cyanogenmod for a distro option to start with.

Re:Almost any Android (1)

borcharc (56372) | more than 2 years ago | (#37752272)

I am confused by this story... The editors must use iphone's because they lack a basic understanding of how android and its aftermarket distributions work. Its such a simple question for anyone that has paid attention to the andorid space for the last few years or perhaps googled the subject. Its linux... if you have root you can replace the kernel with one that has the NAT module and install iptables... Or just use Cyanogenmod or its competitors who all support it out of the box with fancy graphic click here to make work boxes.

Re:Almost any Android (1)

Stewie241 (1035724) | more than 2 years ago | (#37752534)

I don't have root currently on mine (used to, but updated firmware and didn't see the need), but I can access the same functionality by going into Wifi Settings and pressing the button that says 'Tethering and Wifi Hotspot'. I hit a button to turn it on and there are settings that one can adjust if they so choose.

Stock firmware. Mind you I'm on a carrier that includes tethering, but I believe this feature has been available since Android 2.2 at least, so it's really a carrier issue more than anything. I suspect the issue is poster not knowing terminology rather than the feature existing or not existing.

As is evidenced below, there is confusion as to what exactly is meant by wifi proxy support, whereas none would exist if he/she had used the word tethering.

Do you mean using your phone's data connection? (1)

m50d (797211) | more than 2 years ago | (#37752188)

If so, my HTC wildfire has that, bought it from the carphone warehouse here in England and didn't ask for anything special, I imagine it's likely to be similar in Ireland. The magic word you want is "tethering"; stupid name, but it's what people call it.

Depends (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37752190)

It really depends on what type of proxy you are talking about. Lots of phones support HTTP proxys but support for NTLM authentication is patchy. I have found lots don't support SOCKS proxys. Can you be more specific about what proxy you are trying to use?

Root the phone and profit! (1)

rogabean (741411) | more than 2 years ago | (#37752196)

Wifi Proxy Support isn't available on any Android phone that I am aware of by default. CyanogenMod supports it out of the box and as a result so does MIUI. But you will need to root the phone for this. Only way I know of. I use it on my MyTouch 4G (running MIUI) without any real issues.

Re:Root the phone and profit! (1)

Stephenmg (265369) | more than 2 years ago | (#37752310)

my HTC EVO 4G supports this, have to pay Sprint an extra $30 a month to use it which I don't. I went the root and install wifi tether option which is what I suggest.

Re:Root the phone and profit! (1)

rrossman2 (844318) | more than 2 years ago | (#37752798)

So does the verizon samsung facinate and my Samsung galaxy s gt-i9000 that came unlocked from my carrier

Re:Root the phone and profit! (1)

afidel (530433) | more than 2 years ago | (#37752334)

Sprint has it out of the box on their Android phones but it requires a $30/month wireless tethering plan! This is in addition to the $10/month extra for it being a smartphone!!

Re:Root the phone and profit! (1)

Govno (779519) | more than 2 years ago | (#37753042)

Sprint also now secretly caps the tethering data to 5GB, after which they start charging $0.05/kb. Sprint claims unlimited only applies to phones, not hotspot usage.

Re:Root the phone and profit! (1)

neonleonb (723406) | more than 2 years ago | (#37752350)

My Nexus S (on T-Mobile) has built-in wifi tethering. I know that some carriers lock it down, but then I guess that's the magic of an unlocked phone.

Re:Root the phone and profit! (1)

shutdown -p now (807394) | more than 2 years ago | (#37752726)

He's not asking for WiFi tethering. He's asking for proxy support while tethering.

Re:Root the phone and profit! (1)

rogabean (741411) | more than 2 years ago | (#37752782)

Correct. I read the submission as he is looking for Proxy support on wifi connections, NOT tethering to another device.

Re:Root the phone and profit! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37753478)

what would that have to do with anything?

what is it exactly that he wants to do? he wants to use apps that support http proxies? or what? vpn? doesn't have much to do with the base android so look for apps.

because uh i'm not sure if my win7 or osx laptops would support this "wifi proxy" either.

Re:Root the phone and profit! (1)

shutdown -p now (807394) | more than 2 years ago | (#37753846)

E.g. on iOS, there is a single system-wide proxy configuration setting that all apps on the phone should understand and use (and most do).

On Android, until fairly recently, there was no such thing - so third-party apps, when they supported proxies (a rare case), each had their own settings for it; and stock apps didn't support it at all.

Re:Root the phone and profit! (1)

rogabean (741411) | more than 2 years ago | (#37754812)

we have a winner!

Re:Root the phone and profit! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37753984)

Now I'm confused. What the hell is proxy support while tethering?

So far I understand he wants his phone to supply an internet connection over wifi to his device. I call this mobile hotspot or whatever. My Epic 4G does it (for $30/mo extra). The phone's 3g/4g is used to provide internet access to the wireless clients associated to the phone. On the wifi side, the phone provides DHCP which tells clients to the phone's wifi interface's IP as the gateway, DNS server, etc. and NATs the traffic to the publicly routable IP on the 3g/4g side.

Is this different then 'proxying'

Re:Root the phone and profit! (1)

shutdown -p now (807394) | more than 2 years ago | (#37754034)

That's my fail, actually (mental note: "Preview" button is labelled that for a reason). TFA doesn't ask about tethering at all; he just wants a phone that can connect to a WiFi network with a proxy that requires explicit configuration, and be usable on said network.

Re:Root the phone and profit! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37753382)

My Atrix 4G also supports tethering after I rooted it.

Unlocked phone (1)

ickleberry (864871) | more than 2 years ago | (#37752198)

Buy an unlocked phone, I got mine for 150e. I havn't had any problems with "tethering" and it allows me to create a wifi AP

Remember lads, unlocked phones are *not* expensive. Only if you buy them in a mobile phone shop that gets kickbacks for selling contracts

Maybe not in Ireland, but in the US (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37752226)

T-Mobile is a good choice. I have a T-Mobile G2 and it INCLUDES WiFi Tether out of the box (as well as USB Tether if you don't want to burn as much battery) without rooting, flashing, or anything else. Just add a valid data plan to your phone and tethering is included at 0 extra cost. Granted, Verizon seems to have better 3G coverage, and Sprint is slightly cheaper, but neither has WiFi Tether without an extra charge, rooting/flashing, or both.

In my case, I have 4G service in my town (a college town with 80,000 people during classes, and about 20,000 people during the summer, so not huge) and I have an ASUS EEE Transformer (rooted) so any apps that need root I run on the tablet rather than the phone, and simply tether to the phone running the stock ROM. Works like a charm.

Look at Gingerbread & later (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37752230)

I have a Motorola Droid X on Verizon in the US, and a recent code update to 2.3.3.1 provided an option to configure a web proxy for each SSID. Great if you use WIFI at both work & home and have different proxy environments. I don't know if it was Google, Motorola, or Verizon that added this feature.

It did seem that Google was aware of it, according to this recently fixed bug: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1273

The term you are looking for is "tethering" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37752240)

Barnacle or cyanogenmod

Re:The term you are looking for is "tethering" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37752720)

Third-party firmware isn't required. Just a phone that hasn't been molested by a carrier to remove the wifi hotspot feature that has been built right into Android since 2.2 Froyo.

OSI Layers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37752254)

Would you like an ethernet name server with your wifi proxy? Hurray! Let's mix OSI layers and services together into meaningless mash!

Any Android device within the last year will work (1)

bleh-of-the-huns (17740) | more than 2 years ago | (#37752256)

While there are programs and apps that allow for tethering, there is no real need to root your phone as others have suggested. Well at least not permanently. Most of the customized ROMS that the carriers place on their devices have tethering disabled by default so they can charge you for a service that you already pay for. Data is data.. it does not matter how you use it, so fuck the carrier.

Initially you will need root to install a rom manager, once you have that complete, go peruse XDA Developers and find the rom you want for your particular device. Most of the ROMS cooked up there have androids built in tethering functions enabled (Yes, Any stock Android ROM from 2.2 and onwards has tethering via USB cable, or wifi by default, it is under the network settings). Pick one with some fancy customizations, or just a plain stock Android build (hell you could build it yourself if you want, many devices already have the android source out there).

Once you have reimaged your phone, you can remove root access if you do not feel comfortable leaving it enabled (although there is currently very little risk, just be aware of what you install and you will be fine).

This message brought to you by my Samsung Galaxy S on ATT rooted and tethered using the stock android functionality, no additional software or apps required. Hell, it even supports using WPA for your wifi tethering fun.

Re:Any Android device within the last year will wo (1)

Insightfill (554828) | more than 2 years ago | (#37752668)

Yes, Any stock Android ROM from 2.2 and onwards has tethering via USB cable, or wifi by default, it is under the network settings

HTC stopped upgrading the Hero at 2.1. I got so frustrated with MMS messages filling up my phone built-in memory (compacting database bug) that I rooted and put on CyanogenMod and never looked back. In addition to wifi tethering and app2sd, it all just behaves better.

ProxyDroid? (2)

meloneg (101248) | more than 2 years ago | (#37752268)

Well, lots of people have addressed tethering. If you mean using a wifi hotspot that requires a proxy to actually connect to the outside world (think corporate environment here), then I've had real good luck with ProxyDroid from the market. It requires root, but that wasn't an issue for me anyway.

Wifi tethering - requires rooting (1)

frooddude (148993) | more than 2 years ago | (#37752284)

I just looked into wifi tethering and got it working on my Samsung Fascinate last night in about 20 minutes. Open Garden is what I went with. I had already rooted my phone quite a while back to get a newer version of Android so that requirement was no problem for me. It was interesting to find that some wifi tether apps require you also to use a modified kernel. Neither Barnacle (mentioned above) nor Open Garden require a different kernel.

I passed 25MB down / 6 MB up over the course of a couple hours on the road browsing the web and reading email. No overheat issues, the phone was plugged in at the time. Overall the connection was far snappier than my experience trying to browse using the phone. The laptop I used runs Linux and I was using the latest Firefox and Thunderbird.

Samsung Vibrant on T-Mobile (1)

fa8os (761693) | more than 2 years ago | (#37752294)

I have a Samsung Vibrant on T-Mobile and it has been great for tethering/proxy support. The ability is built into the phone and very easy to use. The only down side with T-Mobile is they will slow your connection when you get within a certain amount of data usage. We've used this ability to link the laptop and keep the kids busy while on the road. It's one of my favorite features of the phone and android. I've had the phone for a while, but Samsung has a new phone available which looks really good. I would assume that tethering would work on it as well.

Stop calling it "proxy support" then (2)

Zouden (232738) | more than 2 years ago | (#37752366)

No wonder the phone companies haven't heard about it, since judging by the comments, no one on Slashdot has either. Perhaps you mean tethering?
I have a contract with Vodafone (Netherlands). It came with a HTC Desire. The phone came with an app called "Wifi Hotspot". It works perfectly.
My girlfriend has a Desire S. It also has the Wifi Hotspot app. So... where's the problem? You're in Ireland, not the US.

Re:Stop calling it "proxy support" then (1)

jo_ham (604554) | more than 2 years ago | (#37753040)

If he had meant tethering that is what he would have said. What he is asking for is not the same thing.

Re:Stop calling it "proxy support" then (1)

__Paul__ (1570) | more than 2 years ago | (#37753514)

He doesn't mean tethering. He means accessing an HTTP proxy over wifi. Which Android, ridiculously, can't do.

Re:Stop calling it "proxy support" then (3, Informative)

pedrop357 (681672) | more than 2 years ago | (#37754064)

My Epic 4g can.

Settings->Wireless and Network->Wifi Settings-"Menu" Button->Advanced->Proxy
Settings->Wireless and Network->Wifi Settings-"Menu" Button->Advanced->Port

Didn't see any options for username/password though.

Re:Stop calling it "proxy support" then (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37753866)

Haha really? I think he actually means proxy support as in he must connect to a proxy server to use the internet at work or home. So in this case I believe proxy support is correct

cyanogenmod (1)

Darkseer (63318) | more than 2 years ago | (#37752368)

I have a G2 on T-Mobile. Put cyanogen on it and use any carrier. That does involve rooting the phone, but if you buy a phone fro mthier list of supported devices its really really easy.
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/ [cyanogenmod.com]

-Darkseer

if you can tether you can share wifi (1)

cthlptlk (210435) | more than 2 years ago | (#37752388)

...through the machine that is tethered to the phone, right? You can do that now with your HTC Hero + PDANet. But Heroes are woefully underpowered, so you might as well upgrade anyway.

Time for a reflash (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 2 years ago | (#37752422)

Just jai- sorry, root the phone. Then you can do whatever you want.

mKod 0p (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37752480)

The FailuRe of [goat.cx]

Re:mKod 0p (1)

Kiaser Zohsay (20134) | more than 2 years ago | (#37752660)

Happy Halloween!

Any phone will do (1)

the_humeister (922869) | more than 2 years ago | (#37752548)

Even your current phone if you can install Cyanogenmod on it. Android 2.2 and greater have tethering support built in already so no need for a separate app.

Enterprise networks sometimes require proxies (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37752554)

I don't know if this is what the submitter means but my university is part of the Eduroam consortium. But to access the web on their network, certainly as a "local", I should send all traffic via their webcache.*.ac.uk server. My Android (HTC Desire, running 2.2) has Enterprise WPA just fine but no option to set a proxy for that connection. A certain fruit phone does, I gather, but Droid seem not to. So I'd certainly like to know if there's an app for this, as they say, or a manufacturer who has fiddled with the OS to add such a setting, or indeed if it is in stock Android and I've not found where. (I gather you can set a proxy on the mobile data connection, just not on WiFi)

Sprint Xprt (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37752614)

My Sprint Xprt (Droid pro) has proxy support.

Very simple with any Android phone. (1)

MBoffin (259181) | more than 2 years ago | (#37752748)

Use ConnectBot (free) to create an SSH tunnel to another computer, with dynamic port forwarding. This creates a SOCKS5 proxy. Then use Firefox (free) with the Firefox add-on Proxy Mobile installed. Set the proxy settings in Firefox to the SOCKS5 proxy set up with ConnectBot.

Done. Secure proxy over WiFi when browsing.

However, if you want system-wide proxy support (everything going through the proxy), you'll very likely need to root.

Tmobile with the Samsung Galaxy S 4G (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37752758)

TMobile,
The Samsung Galaxy S 4G on TMobile supports WiFi Access Point for 5 devices and Tethering via USB or Bluetooth out of the box.

I use the feature all the time when I'm traveling.

Official ticket (4, Informative)

shutdown -p now (807394) | more than 2 years ago | (#37752778)

See this ticket - there are many user reports on which phones have it working and which don't in the comments:

http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1273 [google.com]

Samsung Galaxy S2 in particular supports it with updates (2.3.4+), and is otherwise the single most awesome Android phone on the market today (at least until Nexus Prime is officially announced tomorrow).

AT&T - Motorola Atrix - Gingerbread (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37752908)

No rooting required. It works great!

It's smart enough to associate the proxy with the connection, which is better than most computers handle it.

When I'm connected to WiFi at work the proxy gets me right through the firewall, seamlessly.
When I'm at home or out and about on WiFi or the data network, no proxy required - none engaged.

On my laptop I either have to disable the proxies or VPN into the corporate intranet. What a pain.

I have other friends with gingerbread on other phones and no proxy support. Also one guy with an Atrix that hasn't bothered to upgrade to gingerbread - no proxies. So, somehow it seems to be a combination of gingerbread and Motoblur. I don't think AT&T has any bearing on the issue, so I would expect Bionic on Verizon or Photon on Sprint to work as well.

Apps for proxy support (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37753008)

I think the majority of commenters don't understand that you literally mean web proxy support. This is strangely lacking from most android devices. I've been using the ProxyDroid app for a web proxy over Wifi and it works well.

Using privoxy+squid cache on a linux box for the backend.

Wifi proxy is not tethering (1)

CityZen (464761) | more than 2 years ago | (#37753212)

Rather, it just means being able to hook up to a wifi network that requires logging in to a proxy server in order to access the web.
This is a very common setup at many companies, where wifi is provided, but you must authenticate yourself to a proxy server in order to use it.
(This is beyond authenticating yourself to the wifi access point.)

Google has been very speedy supporting this (2)

zizzybaloobah (1021731) | more than 2 years ago | (#37753346)

Even though it is a HUGE requirement for anybody that wants to use Android on WiFi behind a proxy. It was a top-five issue for some time on the Android Issues forum (http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1273), with nary a word from Google. Lots of work-arounds are discussed in that thread, none of them worked for me using an original Droid, or the original Nexus phone. Finally Honeycomb 3.1 was released and finally added support (see http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-3.1-highlights.html#UserFeatures [android.com] - search for the word 'proxy'). Too bad if you didn't have a tablet. Hopefully this will be included in Ice Cream Sandwich (Android 4.0) which will be loaded on both tablets and smartphones.

Even with the Honeycomb support for WiFi Proxy, apps or may not be able to take advantage of the new proxy support, and might have to be updated (at least at that time, that was case). Common example: set a proxy on your XOOM and your could browse the internet, but the mail app, and other apps that relied on http connectivity, would not necessarily work without modification by the developer).

Motorola (and perhaps other manufacturers) have included proxy support in their phones. My Bionic has it, but I no longer need it, and haven't tested it. I'm not sure who else provides it. I think some of the other tablets, may be the Galaxy Tab include a way to set the proxy, but again, if the app doesn't know how to take advantage of it, it's gains you nothing, beyond web browsing.

Even the oldest of Blackberries I used supported proxy settings on WiFi. It boggles my mind that Google would allow such a glaring omission to last for such a long time, especially when it has a huge effect on Android's adoption in the enterprise.

Re:Google has been very speedy supporting this (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37755456)

I hate to say it, but the fact that 90%+ of slashdot users don't know or care what a socks proxy is illustrates why any company with a "by geeks, for geeks" product development strategy will run itself into the ground in the long run. Google has a halfway decent application platform that's 95% compatible with active directory (another meaningless term for geeks - we're all using open source alternatives such as...um, well...there are none). In contrast, Apple, has - in its entire corporate history - never to my knowledge produced an API platform of significance. Goggle is now putting out over 2x devices in user hands than Apple. Yet iDevices have the lead in corporate deployments and that lead is only growing [tuaw.com] .

If you use a socks proxy with PAC/WAPD, every device on your wireless network is provisioned with the full package of correct setting with nothing more than the user's regular username/password combination, or optionally, a certificate placed on the device. There is presently no other technology for wireless provisioning as good or as widely supported as this. Multiple SSIDs don't scale, require users to make an unnecessary choice, and the extra VLANs they use requires you to use extra routing/network segregation, or every device on the network has to use additional CPU/memory just to process the larger spanning tree. Tunnels aren't widely supported; protocol-in-protocol tunneling creates all kinds of unexpected protocol interaction headaches, especially since for most people all traffic is already being tunneled over IP to begin with.

At present, just about any android deployment can be torpedoed in 30 seconds by asking the question "will it support a proxy?" Graphics acceleration support, one-touch copy/paste, and multi-layer audio (Can the user hear that over his crappy bluetooth mono headset anyway? No.) all took priority over basic features needed to connect android devices to a network. If Google can jump the shark over an issue like this, they can and will continue jumping until they finally manage to kill themselves.

Proxy is fully supported in Android 3.2 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37753396)

Works great with my Iconia Tab A500 and the university's bluesocket pile of nonsense.

free Bluetooth PAN (1)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 2 years ago | (#37753952)

I got a Droid Bionic in September, no tethering plan (Verizon, New York City). I intended to get a tethering plan later, should I need it

My laptop has bluetooth. I paired the phone and the laptop just to do it and see what speaker sharing was like, etc. I right clicked on the phone when it showed up on my laptop's list of available bluetooth devices, and there was a menu option I never saw before: "Join Personal Area Network"

I clicked it and it just works.

I never heard of such a thing before. I realize you can set up bluetooth as a DUN modem, which is limited by tethering, but this is a different protocol. Maybe Android enabled it with its recent OS build, and Verizon is not aware of it due to lack of exposure (most laptops don't have bluetooth).

Or maybe one day I'm going to try this, and it just stops working, due to Verizon finally catching on (this post won't help). Or maybe they don't have any contingencies to catch and stop this kind of tethering. I don't know what is going on. All I know is I'm currently tethering for free, easily, with no mods.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_area_network [wikipedia.org]

2.3 or higher (1)

blowuptheking (1859786) | more than 2 years ago | (#37754412)

OP is asking about proxy support for the phone's wifi connection. The college that I work for uses a proxy and devices need to set their proxy settings in order to access the internet while on campus. Android started supporting proxies in version 2.3. Basically any phone with Gingerbread or higher will work.

Re:2.3 or higher (1)

roc97007 (608802) | more than 2 years ago | (#37754960)

My understanding, though, is that you can turn the proxy on or off only globally, which means you have to dig through the settings and set up a proxy when you're on campus, and then dig back through the settings to turn it off when you're at Starbucks and want to use their wifi.

I have the same issue. Turning the proxy on or off depending on whether I'm at work or ... anywhere else ... is a time consuming task, so much so that I don't use wifi while at work.

What Android needs is wifi proxy settings on a per-connection basis. I pointed this out in an Android bug report and got told that it was fixed in 3.0 (honeycomb). Unfortunately, there are no phones running Honeycomb of which I am aware.

Atrix has this (1)

Asten (674521) | more than 2 years ago | (#37754488)

My Motorola Atrix on Gingerbread has the ability to set a proxy server on an individual basis for wifi APs. I suspect this would be the case of most recent Motorola phones.

Try ProxyDroid (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37754512)

https://market.android.com/details?id=org.proxydroid&hl=en

I use it to get through my proxy at university, and it allows you to set individual proxies for different networks.

Nothing better than AutoProxy (1)

Technomancer (51963) | more than 2 years ago | (#37754760)

Here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13877540#post13877540
It requires root and iptables support. It automatically starts proxy when you connect to access point and remembers which proxy to use for which AP SSID.

TransProxy is pretty good too http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=766569 but you have to switch it on and off manually.

Re:Nothing better than AutoProxy (1)

roc97007 (608802) | more than 2 years ago | (#37754972)

In my case, the problem is I'm not allowed to root a company phone. I'm pretty sure that's going to be true (at least technically) for most corporate users.

web proxy? (1)

roc97007 (608802) | more than 2 years ago | (#37754924)

If they're talking about using a web proxy, I joined the bug report describing this, and got a note a couple months ago that it was fixed in Android 3.0. So all you have to find is an Android phone running 3.0 or above. I still haven't seen any. But it's nice to know they fixed it.

There is one (1)

ahmosis (650835) | more than 2 years ago | (#37755590)

Proxy settings is an already existing application for configuring the proxy for wifi access, just search in the android market (works with google nexus one at least)

Multiple options, but watch for charges (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37755642)

As other have noted, there are multiple options including third-party software (which may require root, not sure if they all do) to running a stock firmware or something based on one (e.g. Cyanogen for HTC and others, TeamWhiskey for some Samsungs, etc.) and using the built-in mobile hotspot.

One thing to be wary about is usage patterns - depending on what solution you're using it may be possible for carriers to ID the OS you're using (ex. "Passive Operating System Identification from TCP/IP Packet Headers" http://www.ll.mit.edu/mission/communications/ist/publications/03_POSI_Lippmann.pdf), particularly if tethering is normally only available as an expensive added feature or separate product thus making it worthwhile. Tethering may also make it more likely that you'll hit or exceed whatever data caps your carrier may have, drawing either extra charges, throttling/slowdowns or simple disconnection. I suspect that this is less likely to be an issue if you're an occasional tethering user for minor items, but I've seen a couple of people decide that T-Mobile's 3.5G implementation in the US was plenty of speed for home use until they ran up against bandwidth caps.

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