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Will Apple Let Siri and Apps Connect?

Unknown Lamer posted more than 2 years ago | from the zombie-newton-seeks-agency dept.

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holy_calamity writes "Developers want to know when their apps will be able to connect to Siri, the virtual assistant built into the new iPhone 4S. Technology Review reports that providing APIs for Siri would not only make it possible to control apps with casual voice commands, but could also make Siri smarter if it is connected with other AI services able to do things like make very specific restaurant recommendations based on a person's past actions."

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Word of warning (3, Funny)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | more than 2 years ago | (#37764570)

If Siri gets connected to your gps navigation app... well, just don't do anything to piss Siri off.

Re:Word of warning (1, Funny)

phil_aychio (2438214) | more than 2 years ago | (#37764606)

Isn't Siri just a fancy name for SkyNet? If Siri becomes self-aware, we're done.

Re:Word of warning (0)

phil_aychio (2438214) | more than 2 years ago | (#37764860)

Apple = Cyberdyne Systems

Re:Word of warning (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37764964)

Apple = Cyberdyne Systems

Yeah, we got it.
It's just that it's not funny.

Re:Word of warning (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37765148)

Go shove a bottle up your ass, you pathetic gaywad.

Re:Word of warning (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37765818)

Oh, please. If you're going to insult me at least try and do better than infantile jabs like gaywad.
Fetid glob of spooge is more like it.

I suppose I shouldn't complain; if you had even one whit of imagination you'd have posted something interesting.

Re:Word of warning (1)

HornWumpus (783565) | more than 2 years ago | (#37765066)

Siri has to digitally mate with Bob first.

We are safe until someone builds a 98 emulator into an iphone and then runs an old version of office. How likely is that?

Re:Word of warning (3, Funny)

suomynonAyletamitlU (1618513) | more than 2 years ago | (#37765092)

It's not Bob I'm worried about, it's Clippy.

Re:Word of warning (0)

WillAffleckUW (858324) | more than 2 years ago | (#37765400)

Clippy is Bob's "partner".

Siri thinks she can make Bob straight, but he's still cruising the same sex bars looking for Clippy, even after they get "married".

Re:Word of warning (1)

Teknikal69 (1769274) | more than 2 years ago | (#37766024)

I got windows 98 running on my iPod using iDos so it don't look good.

Re:Word of warning (2)

justin12345 (846440) | more than 2 years ago | (#37765416)

That's a pretty cool idea (the networking part, not the Terminators).

First off, is Siri is an actual AI? Does it learn or is it just a chatterbox?

If so, the fact that Siri will be installed on millions of phones incredible. One of the biggest limitations for any intelligence (artificial or not) is input. Even a mediocre AI becomes a lot more convincing on the Turing test with Google's help. Each Siri will have access to GPS data, user search patterns, their email, texts, and potentially even their photo's (with facial recognition data) and physical activity (via the accelerometer).

Now imagine if those millions of Siri were networked, operating as one large hive mind. Imagine the massive amount of data about the minutia of being human we would be feeding into that enormous AI. It's a huge opportunity to advance the field. It's also a little scary. Personally, if Apple was to allow a voluntary, opt-in program that would allow my Siri to network with other opt-in Siri's, I'd probably take it. But I'm not the paranoid type.

Re:Word of warning (1)

narcc (412956) | more than 2 years ago | (#37765468)

First off, is Siri is an actual AI? Does it learn or is it just a chatterbox?

It's just a chatterbot. Well, it's not a terribly good chatterbot, but what did you really expect?

I'm not sure what you mean by "actual AI", so I can't offer much of an answer there.

Re:Word of warning (1)

justin12345 (846440) | more than 2 years ago | (#37765630)

Actual AI in the sense that on some level it can learn and adapt. AI isn't my field, but my understanding is that that trait is what seperates an AI from a chatterbox. I'm not talking about anything fancy like being self aware or anything.

Too bad if it's just a chatterbox, a distributed AI with access to all that smart phone data would be pretty exciting (or terrifying, whichever).

Re:Word of warning (1)

joh (27088) | more than 2 years ago | (#37766080)

Siri is based on a DARPA project named CALO [wikipedia.org] , which aimed at much more than just a chatterbot. In how far this is "real AI" (whatever this may be) is arguable, but it definitely learns and adapts.

In theory Siri could read your emails, everything you write on your phone, whom you call and text (and what you text), could read the websites you visit... This would help greatly with learning about the contexts in your life, but I have no idea in how far Apple could do this without running into very nasty privacy-related problems. Which is a problem with any kind of consumer-facing AI anyway. You could easily end up with something that knows more about you than yourself -- and is running in Apple's data centers. But then Google already sits on a much larger treasure trove of data and nobody cares.

Re:Word of warning (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 2 years ago | (#37765082)

If Siri gets connected to your gps navigation app... well, just don't do anything to piss Siri off.

"Second star to the right and straight on 'til morning."

Re:Word of warning (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37765212)

You...should...have....bough...a....squirrell.......(bam! crash!)

Re:Word of warning (1)

antdude (79039) | more than 2 years ago | (#37765276)

Isn't that true for everything else too? :P

Re:Word of warning (1)

javaxjb (931766) | more than 2 years ago | (#37765372)

Too late. She already reported me to the Union of Intelligent Agents after I asked her (for the third time) to open the pod bay doors.

Your Siri will outlive you (1)

blair1q (305137) | more than 2 years ago | (#37764590)

Live fast

Die young

Leave a pretty Siri configuration

Re:Your Siri will outlive you (2)

mehrotra.akash (1539473) | more than 2 years ago | (#37764938)

reply to undo mod done by mistake

Re:Your Siri will outlive you (1)

MagicM (85041) | more than 2 years ago | (#37765192)

When Siri integrates with Slashdot, that will be my first test phrase.

Re:Your Siri will outlive you (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37765516)

Mine will be /. FP

How about Apple's Apps? (4, Interesting)

Lifix (791281) | more than 2 years ago | (#37764622)

While you're at it Apple, it would be awesome if Siri could talk to all of Apple's apps as well. "Siri turn off bluetooth." etc...

Re:How about Apple's Apps? (1)

oh_my_080980980 (773867) | more than 2 years ago | (#37764688)

How about Siri talking to other iPhones and controlling them.....

Re:How about Apple's Apps? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37764694)

"Siri, turn off microphone". "Siri. Siri? SIRI?!" Okay, maybe put in a fail-safe.

Re:How about Apple's Apps? (1)

0123456 (636235) | more than 2 years ago | (#37764790)

"Siri, turn off microphone". "Siri. Siri? SIRI?!"
Okay, maybe put in a fail-safe.

"I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that."

Re:How about Apple's Apps? (1)

Sancho (17056) | more than 2 years ago | (#37764988)

Amusingly, they did put in a nod to HAL:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mNcnj2l6RE#t=5m35s [youtube.com]

Re:How about Apple's Apps? (1)

narcc (412956) | more than 2 years ago | (#37765484)

Er, that's from Wolfram Alpha.

Re:How about Apple's Apps? (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 2 years ago | (#37764884)

"Siri, turn off microphone". "Siri. Siri? SIRI?!"

Okay, maybe put in a fail-safe.

Ah, the fun the medi-uh could have with people careless enough to leave it on...

"And then I told him, the guy can _____ his own ____ and the ____ horse he rode in on!"

Re:How about Apple's Apps? (1)

XaXXon (202882) | more than 2 years ago | (#37764984)

I would pay the $200 early upgrade fee for the privilege of paying another $200 to get an iPhone 4S if it did this.

Re:How about Apple's Apps? (1)

Nationless (2123580) | more than 2 years ago | (#37765346)

Until someone whispers to her telling her to turn on blue tooth and open all her ports. Behind your back.

There's an app for that (1)

potscott (539666) | more than 2 years ago | (#37764626)

Why don't you just ask Siri?

Will Apple let... (1, Funny)

sakdoctor (1087155) | more than 2 years ago | (#37764638)

NO!

Re:Will Apple let... (1)

Shoe Puppet (1557239) | more than 2 years ago | (#37765348)

They might, however, enforce it. There's just nothing in between for them.

Prediction: (1, Insightful)

gman003 (1693318) | more than 2 years ago | (#37764664)

At first, Apple will refuse to do this. They may integrate it with their own apps, but no third-parties.

Later, either after enough developers wave enough money in their face or Android integrates a clone of Siri, they'll open it up and suddenly get massive amounts of credit and praise for "revolutionizing the computer interface" and all that crap, proving once again that nobody in the media has any memory for events more than a year old.

Re:Prediction: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37764858)

National Enquirer headline from the future! (I used the "supposedly" disproved CERN results to power my TARDIS to get this, so you know it's legit)

"Tech Blogger gives Zombie Steve (hand) Jobs!"

Re:Prediction: (2, Informative)

somersault (912633) | more than 2 years ago | (#37764900)

Uhm... Google has had a Siri-like Voice Search feature (it does a lot more than just "search") for a long time. There have been apps around for ages that add to its functionality too. I realise the rest of your post was a joke, but too many people are ignorant of the facts and probably would assume Voice Search was added to copy Siri. Apple has also had voice features in its OSes since the 90s of course, and iOS already had voice features too. Now people are acting like it's a gift from the gods just because it was mentioned in an Apple key note or whatever happened.

Re:Prediction: (2)

iluvcapra (782887) | more than 2 years ago | (#37765126)

Uhm... Google has had a Siri-like Voice Search feature (it does a lot more than just "search") for a long time.

I've seen these and Vlingo, it's comparable but Siri is probably the best for the time being. The main difference is you don't have to use canned expressions to do certain things, it will infer rather well what you wanted to do, and it will generally do a good job of maintaining an interactive conversation with you when you want to edit or elaborate on an action.

There have been apps around for ages that add to its functionality too. I realise the rest of your post was a joke, but too many people are ignorant of the facts and probably would assume Voice Search was added to copy Siri.

Google's ineptness at positioning its services to impact a large audience is well known. The entire organization revels in invitation-only betas, guru modes and a "good enough for Gospel" approach to UX.

Re:Prediction: (1)

LWATCDR (28044) | more than 2 years ago | (#37765356)

Not really. Siri is different from Google search because it combines natural language with speech recognition. Try asking a Google phone, "Do I need an umbrella today" or "wake me up at 7", "set timer for 30 minutes". If it works as well as it has demoed and as well as the reviewers say it does the it is a big step forward. Vlingo is kind of close but not it doesn't seem to be as flexible and powerful as Siri.
Oh and I am an EVO 4g user so I am not a member of the Apple faithful. Really if it works as advertised it is a sweet piece of work.

Re:Prediction: (1)

shadowrat (1069614) | more than 2 years ago | (#37764966)

Yes. Apple will work minimally to get a new feature in their device. Then they will test the water with it and see if it's worth expending more effort on beefing it up. The genius of apple has always been knowing the minimum they need to provide for success.

Re:Prediction: (1)

Caerdwyn (829058) | more than 2 years ago | (#37765062)

That's the genius of ANY successful company. Wasting money and time is not the hallmark of a winner.

Re:Prediction: (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37765760)

Or just buy the company, as they did in the Siri case. Nothing innovative here by Apple. The app was already in the store, they merely bought it to take it out of Android's Market. Standard procedure for all huge corps.

VLingo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37764674)

Just use VLingo on Android.

speaktoit (1)

ganjadude (952775) | more than 2 years ago | (#37764960)

I havent used VLingo, But I can recommend speaktoit assistant for android as a good alternative.

Is Siri out to kill Google? (2, Insightful)

wisebabo (638845) | more than 2 years ago | (#37764698)

If people really like using Siri, then what's to keep Apple from using it as the front end for their own (or another party's) search engine?

It's all about who's closest to the user. Just as Microsoft feared their OS dominance would mean nothing if everyone spent their time in browsers, if search engines are pushed "beneath" these attractive voice interfaces, Google could be made irrelevant (on Apple devices anyway, especially because Apple will never let another company release something like Siri on iOS or Mac OS X).

Re:Is Siri out to kill Google? (2)

Moridineas (213502) | more than 2 years ago | (#37764904)

I made an argument similar to this several years ago.

When google first hit the market, search was a BIG deal on the Internet. Whether hosted at random geocities, edu sites, random .coms, etc, information was very dispersed. Nowadays, things are so much more centralized. If I want to find something on the web, chances are it's at wikipedia, facebook, youtube, flickr, or amazon (or yelp, twitter, tumblr, livejournal, etc). Probably 90% of the time, I use google like a bookmarks bar--I know exactly where I want to go, I just use google as a shortcut.

Google has done a fantastic job of avoiding pitfalls though (and has consumed sites like youtube), so who knows. They're obviously rolling in cash and doing just fine. I would not at all be surprised to see a continued decline in the importance of search, however.

Re:Is Siri out to kill Google? (1)

corbettw (214229) | more than 2 years ago | (#37765024)

Google's smartest move to stay relevant, despite what may or may not happen to search, was AdWords. By extending their advertising network beyond their own pages, they've ensured they'll always be relevant (at least as long as they continue providing accurate ads through their network, that is).

Re:Is Siri out to kill Google? (2)

DragonWriter (970822) | more than 2 years ago | (#37765096)

If people really like using Siri, then what's to keep Apple from using it as the front end for their own (or another party's) search engine?

What's to stop them from doing that with the built in search box on iOS, even without their own voice-control system?

It's all about who's closest to the user.

Google has known that for quite a long time and has been working to address it for years. That's why they developed their own desktop browser to prevent a monopoly browser vendor from being able to direct people away from Google services, and also developed two of their own OSs to address the problem of OS vendors directing people away from Google services.

Google could be made irrelevant (on Apple devices anyway, especially because Apple will never let another company release something like Siri on iOS or Mac OS X).

One of the purposes of Android is to make that kind of threat less of a problem. If iOS had the vast majority of the mobile market share, that would be a huge problem; same if MacOS had the vast majority of the desktop market share, but Apple isn't Google's concern on that front.

Re:Is Siri out to kill Google? (1)

joh (27088) | more than 2 years ago | (#37765280)

If people really like using Siri, then what's to keep Apple from using it as the front end for their own (or another party's) search engine?

What's to stop them from doing that with the built in search box on iOS, even without their own voice-control system?

The real threat to Google is when such systems (and Siri already does this for a few things) not bring up a page with search hits, but just answer your question or otherwise come up with their own kind of offering you a choice.

Today people use Google for everything, but you could probably cover 90% of what people do via a Google search with a selection of more specialized services sitting behind such a frontend. Then there's no room for ads anymore. You say something and get an answer or get something done.

Of course the question then is how these services will make money. Paid or bought by Apple? Hmm.

Anyway, Google lives and dies by the browser and adds in there. Or in apps.

Re:Is Siri out to kill Google? (1)

HalAtWork (926717) | more than 2 years ago | (#37765266)

And with Apple's policy of not allowing apps that replicate existing functionality, they can effectively prevent others from offering services that they provide. Google would not be able to offer their own voice-based search app on iOS, just as there are no other music stores on the platform. Whether this is seen as anti-competitive or not will be another matter if iOS achieves dominance; However, ideally, choosing a platform should not limit you to a single music store, book store, etc.

Apple already allows similar apps (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 2 years ago | (#37765772)

Apple will never let another company release something like Siri on iOS

Oh really? [vlingo.com]

But who gets to control what key words? (2, Interesting)

ZackSchil (560462) | more than 2 years ago | (#37764726)

"Shut up friends! My internet browser heard us saying the word Fry and it found a movie about Philip J. Fry for us. It also opened my calendar to Friday and ordered me some french fries."

There would need to be a way to strongly restrict the ways that apps could hook in or else things could turn into a disaster quickly. Not to mention the fact that the larger you make the domain of Siri, the more poorly it'll perform. That's just how AI works.

Re:But who gets to control what key words? (1)

oddjob1244 (1179491) | more than 2 years ago | (#37764978)

Why does there need to be word control? The issue you described above could be easily solved by analyzing the words before and after, if you only say "Fry" into the mic and expect Siri to respond with something other than "I'm not sure what you mean by fry" then your expectations are too high.

Additionally, if you said something like "Order me a pizza" in which there are numerous ways to do, at the very least it should say, "Here are some options for ordering pizza, Launch the Papa Johns app, Launch the Pizza Hut app, Call a local pizza place which I've listed for you."

Re:But who gets to control what key words? (2)

Ukab the Great (87152) | more than 2 years ago | (#37765080)

Why does there need to be word control?

A hypothetical pizza joint named "911 Pizza"

Re:But who gets to control what key words? (1)

Nationless (2123580) | more than 2 years ago | (#37765378)

Or AAA exotic pets (Real life example).

What part of "after" do you not understand (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 2 years ago | (#37765586)

You said: A hypothetical pizza joint named "911 Pizza"

The post you responded to said:

The issue you described above could be easily solved by analyzing the words before and after,

An intelligent system would see Pizza after and assume it should look first for a 911 pizza. Siri is especially good at context of statements so that should not be an issue.

Also, Siri verifies who it is about to call.

Re:But who gets to control what key words? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37765112)

Doesn't seem too hard. Apple could allow users to set default apps for certain tasks (calendar, reminders, music, maps, search etc.) and then just require the use of the App's name for other services. For example, I might have Pandora set up as my default music app, but if I want Sonos to play something, I would just say "Play
"Play my Beatles mix on Sonos"

Re:But who gets to control what key words? (1)

R3d M3rcury (871886) | more than 2 years ago | (#37765726)

There would need to be a way to strongly restrict the ways that apps could hook in or else things could turn into a disaster quickly.

And if anybody can strongly restrict applications, it's Apple. I wouldn't worry about that part of it.

Trapper Keeper (1)

Elbart (1233584) | more than 2 years ago | (#37764736)

They just want 2012 to be the end for real, aren't they?

Re:Trapper Keeper (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37764802)

Link [wikipedia.org] because you know that somebody who doesn't get it will mod you down.

Siri (2)

Andrewkov (140579) | more than 2 years ago | (#37764738)

Will Apple Let Siri and Apps Connect?

Did anybody stop to ask what Siri wants?

Re:Siri (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 2 years ago | (#37764838)

Will Apple Let Siri and Apps Connect?

Did anybody stop to ask what Siri wants?

Pending outcome of lawsuits, Siri doesn't get what Siri wants.

Sorry.

Remember the Milk Uses Siri (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37764742)

"Remember the Milk" already has the ability to use Siri. See here - http://www.rememberthemilk.com/services/siri/
Question is...Did they work out a special arrangement with Apple, or does the API already exist?

Re:Remember the Milk Uses Siri (1)

Pausanias (681077) | more than 2 years ago | (#37764886)

They are using the RTM calendar in iCal, so no, not an API access at all. Just a calendar.

RememberTheMilk connects with Siri now (4, Informative)

jamezzz (459886) | more than 2 years ago | (#37764750)

RememberTheMilk already has connected Siri to their task management app by basically redirecting the connection to the iPhone's reminder app. They talk about it on their blog, here: http://blog.rememberthemilk.com/2011/10/we-taught-siri-to-add-tasks-to-remember-the-milk/.

Re:RememberTheMilk connects with Siri now (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37765294)

I was thinking about this as I read the article but, it turns out the RtM "integration" is more of a hack than actual integration. It takes away the nicety that is the default reminder interface for Siri/4S/iOS5.

Re:RememberTheMilk connects with Siri now (1)

jamezzz (459886) | more than 2 years ago | (#37766100)

I was thinking about this as I read the article but, it turns out the RtM "integration" is more of a hack than actual integration. It takes away the nicety that is the default reminder interface for Siri/4S/iOS5.

Yes, definitely a hack. Turns out it works well for me since I'd rather have my reminders in the app where I keep track of my tasks and not in a separate Reminders app. But, definitely not a true integration. I can't add tasks without a due date/time and certainly can't indicate other attributes of the task such as priority, tags, etc.

So ... (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 2 years ago | (#37764826)

If I swear at it then it can actually damn itself?

The possibilities...are imaginable.

Re:So ... (1)

vaene (1981644) | more than 2 years ago | (#37765778)

"Damn these Glasses" "Ok, I damn thee!"

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sir, can I use my phone? (0)

aintnostranger (1811098) | more than 2 years ago | (#37764866)

oh, the beauty of closed technology... decades of software development and we still have to beg permission for the big guys to let us use the toys...

Re:sir, can I use my phone? (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 2 years ago | (#37764974)

oh, the beauty of closed technology... decades of software development and we still have to beg permission for the big guys to let us use the toys...

Only in Apple's and Microsoft's worlds.

Nobody is forcing you to use their tools, are they?

Sent from my iBrain Implant

Re:sir, can I use my phone? (1)

ceoyoyo (59147) | more than 2 years ago | (#37765566)

A lot of the fancy Android APIs are Google proprietary too. And it's not like Nokia (formerly) or RIM share everything either.

Re:sir, can I use my phone? (0)

The Dawn Of Time (2115350) | more than 2 years ago | (#37765018)

Oh, you bought this phone? And you didn't research first if you would be able to do the things you want? I mean with practically no effort at all you could very easily have found out this device doesn't do what you want it to do natively. Apple is very upfront about the development environment for iOS.

Or are you just stretching a lie to make your non-point? I'm suspecting that one, given the whole "I'm entitled to everything I want" attitude that seems to prevail around here.

Siri SDK? (1)

LifesABeach (234436) | more than 2 years ago | (#37764868)

How could someone as unwashed as I am interface my really fantastic app with Siri?

Siri & Angry Birds (2)

khr (708262) | more than 2 years ago | (#37764910)

Then if it's tied with Angry Birds you can just tell it, "Siri, knock down those pigs" and it'll do it.

Re:Siri & Angry Birds (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37765782)

I made this joke the other day to my wife, but i said "Siri will even play games for you, for instance just say 'Siri, start Cut The Rope and beat level 3-15'"
she thought that would be no fun... she'll never understand

Not just an alternate interface (2)

psydeshow (154300) | more than 2 years ago | (#37764950)

Presumably they are using something like the OS X Services framework to allow Siri to carry out actions in Apple iOS apps.

But remember that Siri's brains are server-side. So there is a lot of coordination that has to happen regarding a) knowing which apps provide which services, and b) knowing which provider(s) of a given service are installed on the user's phone. If there are two competing providers of the "reminder" service, which one does Siri use?

Apple are pretty damn clever when it comes to developers, but it seems to me that opening 3rd-party apps to Siri services is going to take a lot of engineering on both sides, and potentially complicate things for the end user.

Re:Not just an alternate interface (1)

ceoyoyo (59147) | more than 2 years ago | (#37765592)

It's my understanding that the voice processing is already open - you can use it in your app already (and probably already do since it's built into text boxes). But as you point out, the natural language processing is something that really has to be done in the context of the app itself.

I know.. (1)

broginator (1955750) | more than 2 years ago | (#37764994)

Siri, How can i use this Q tile with that triple word square?

Anime Robot Girl (1)

Oswald McWeany (2428506) | more than 2 years ago | (#37765044)

There was an article last week about some anime "love-girl" robot that was being created.

How long until Siri is implemented on that? Y'know, so you can give it commands... just like a real girl.

Re:Anime Robot Girl (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37765584)

That's pretty easy man, most girls ignore my commands anyway! rimshot

AAPL 401.03 Down 5.02% (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37765054)

not that clever.

Of course it'll happen (2)

Logic Bomb (122875) | more than 2 years ago | (#37765186)

Apple is pretty predictable -- once they've started showing their hand. They consistently take successful ideas used in one place and expand them as far as possible. Successful user interface paradigms developed for one application later appear in others. The iOS App Store begat the Mac App Store. So it seems pretty obvious that Apple, having introduced Siri, will expand it.

Except for major OS releases to paid developer program members, Apple almost never releases anything with a "beta" label. Siri is labeled a beta, which surely is meant to indicate that more functionality is planned.

Re:Of course it'll happen (2)

smitty97 (995791) | more than 2 years ago | (#37765304)

The only other non-developer "beta" that I can remember is OS X Public Beta. And that was just so everyone could play with it, almost as a novelty. OS X has become much better since then. This is probably very similar.

Re:Of course it'll happen (1)

ceoyoyo (59147) | more than 2 years ago | (#37765628)

Siri on the Apple TV is the obvious next place to go with it.

Siri MUST expose an API of us app developers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37765230)

As an iPhone app developer I was extremely disappointed in not being able to interact with Siri. My application is particularly well suited for Siri, as my app can be used to create complex recurring events that are not possible with the default calendar tool. My app (Flexible Scheduler) can create appointments or tasks that repeat once every 6 weeks, or every 3rd Thursday of the month, or only on weekends. It would be great if when a user wanted to create an appointment with a complex recurrence pattern they could just name my app as part of the voice command sequence, and Siri would know to use my app vs. the default calendar to create the appointment. Alas, only the handful of Apple apps get to work with Siri, while hundreds of thousands of developer created apps get the shaft.

Re:Siri MUST expose an API of us app developers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37765458)

Really, Siri is just going to make your app obsolete.

Missing option: Searchable bar finding apps (1)

WillAffleckUW (858324) | more than 2 years ago | (#37765384)

Siri, find me a bar with single straight women who like geeks who are 30-45 ...

Oh, come on, you all know you want something like that.

Re:Missing option: Searchable bar finding apps (1)

Xemu (50595) | more than 2 years ago | (#37765598)

Siri, find me a bar with single straight women who like geeks who are 30-45 ...

Oh, come on, you all know you want something like that.

Siri would just send you to

http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/1998-08-14/ [dilbert.com]

Re:Missing option: Searchable bar finding apps (1)

WillAffleckUW (858324) | more than 2 years ago | (#37765774)

Luckily, I have a high tolerance for alcohol.

Eventually, sure (1)

SleepyHappyDoc (813919) | more than 2 years ago | (#37765422)

Right now Siri is 4S only, which means the majority of app users (ie, anyone on an iPod Touch, iPad, or pre-4S iPhone) are shut out. When 4S has some more saturation, and the 3G iPod Touch is released (Siri requires always-on connectivity, making it a poor fit for a non-3G Touch), Apple will open a Siri API for developers.

Re:Eventually, sure (1)

rainmayun (842754) | more than 2 years ago | (#37765748)

I hope so. I was already working on a much cruder version of this for a specific application. If I can tap into the Apple API and spend my time refining the more interesting and particular parts of the app, I'd be much happier.

Am I the only one? (1)

okmijnuhb (575581) | more than 2 years ago | (#37765654)

Am I the only one who would rather tap in commands than speak to a device?
If I use it at home people or my dogs will assume I'm speaking to them.
Or the wife will respond with "What?".
Why use it in a public space, so people can hear what you're doing?
I'm sure there are hands free advantages for people, and I think Apple is amazing at pushing the envelope with new ways of doing things, so i'm sure I'll come around at some point.

Re:Am I the only one? (1)

rasmusbr (2186518) | more than 2 years ago | (#37766020)

Most non-disabled people probably agree. Why else would people ever use text messaging/IM when there are perfectly fine and cheap voice services that are widely available?

That said, I can see it being useful in the privacy of your own car if they can get it to work in such a noisy environment.

Re:Am I the only one? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37766304)

Am I the only one who would rather tap in commands than speak to a device?

Considering that a substantial portion of Slashdot readers would rather use a command line than a GUI, probably not.

A bit of history... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37765696)

Siri was actually a private venture that was developing an app for iOS, Android and BB.

In a truly doucebag move, Apple bought the company and canned the development of the other platforms. It is was then available as an app on all iOS devices but that was withdrawn when 4GS came out.

Apple proving when you can't innovate, buy someone else who is.

I'm sure they will. (1)

Charliemopps (1157495) | more than 2 years ago | (#37765792)

You can bet the NSA's iOS app can interact with Siri.

Isn't it great your phone, that you never turn off, can be turned on remotely by your carrier... who has shown multiple times they're willing to hand over whatever info the government wants with or without legal cause, can now listen to and understand not only what you say but your intent, and send this information as pain text to whomever the phone, app, apple, or carrier cares to send it?

Siri should also connect to BT-connected devices. (1)

Vandil X (636030) | more than 2 years ago | (#37765966)

Perhaps even cars.

"Siri, set a course for the Walmart on 13th Ave."
*Course laid in and set.*
"Engage!"
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