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EU Debates Installing a Black Box On Your Computer

samzenpus posted more than 2 years ago | from the all-the-better-to-track-you-with dept.

EU 459

bs0d3 writes "EU MEP Tiziano Motti (Italy), wants everything you do online to be logged and saved, for the sake of the children. Like a black box installed on every computer. He proposes an early warning system of criminal activity, specifically whenever an image of sexually abused children is detected, an alarm, goes to the authorities to be able to see who uploaded it. Tiziano Motti was a politician who just over a year ago managed to get a majority of European Members of Parliament to support the proposal to expand the data storage directive to Google searches. The purpose was to protect children from pedophiles — the same excuse he is using now. His proposal involves a technology called Logbox. And just as with an aircraft's black box, Logbox is installed on computers, laptops, smartphones, and e-readers because yes, all that can be connected to the internet."

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And who's gonna pay for that? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37771650)

Me? Ha-ha-ha!

Re:And who's gonna pay for that? (2)

Z00L00K (682162) | more than 2 years ago | (#37771912)

Yes - you will, and Big Brother will be watching you.

Don't forget that this can easily be changed to also take care of political opinions and just about everything.

All while the criminals will find out that you can circumvent the filters one way or another.

Re:And who's gonna pay for that? (5, Interesting)

Joce640k (829181) | more than 2 years ago | (#37772006)

Yep. Somebody needs to ask him why there aren't video cameras in politician's houses/offices so we can watch them and prevent corruption.

Lead us by example!

Re:And who's gonna pay for that? (1)

justforgetme (1814588) | more than 2 years ago | (#37771950)

What, me? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

Anyway, I'm not scared. Chances are the thing won't have drivers for linux anyway. So it will just take up space in the frame. Which space will be reclaimed and used for some other chipset first chance.

Three words... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37771652)

Fuck. That. Shit.

Mr Motti: (5, Insightful)

zero.kalvin (1231372) | more than 2 years ago | (#37771660)

Fuck you!

Re:Mr Motti: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37771704)

+1 This.

Re:Mr Motti: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37771834)

I second this sentiment wholeheartedly. Fuck you, Tiziano Motti.

If the people in Italy don't mind corruption and dictatorship, fine, leave the EU and keep your crap to yourself.

Re:Mr Motti: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37771918)

Fuck you!

Your comment says it all! Nice

Re:Mr Motti: (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37771996)

Honestly Italy... get your own crap sorted out first before coming up with asinine ideas. You're always in the news for all the wrong reasons. The whole world is lauging at you.

Fuck you Italy (2)

funkatron (912521) | more than 2 years ago | (#37771662)

Would someone from Italy like to explain why you voted this authoritarian cunt into the EU. Go on! I'd love to hear it!

Re:Fuck you Italy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37771680)

Well, Italy is effectively a dictatorship run by Berlusconi, so why not try to take over the rest of Europe. They tried it before... :)

Re:Fuck you Italy (2)

bky1701 (979071) | more than 2 years ago | (#37771764)

WWIII could end our economic problems. Will someone please think of the children and invade Italy?

Re:Fuck you Italy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37771844)

It would make the economic problems only larger. It took Europe over 40 years to recover from WWII.

Re:Fuck you Italy (-1)

justforgetme (1814588) | more than 2 years ago | (#37771920)

Yeah and it definitely hurt the losers Germany, Japan and France so much that they now are world superpowers...

Re:Fuck you Italy (1)

pyrosine (1787666) | more than 2 years ago | (#37771994)

I think he was referring to the genocidal losses that would be wrought by nuclear weapons. The lack of a functioning civilization does mean the lack of economical problems.

Re:Fuck you Italy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37771848)

Because in Italy it's not possible to vote candidates directly. You just choose the party you like (usually the one you dislike less :) ) and than the party chooses the candidate that will take the vote. In this way, Italian people think Italy is a democracy when in fact it's not.

Re:Fuck you Italy (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37771896)

Oh, that's kind of like my country. We have this dorky thing called electoral university or something.

Re:Fuck you Italy (0)

funkatron (912521) | more than 2 years ago | (#37771906)

Further research reveals that he is in the Christian Democrat party. This explains both why he is crazy and what sort of crazies voted for him.

Re:Fuck you Italy (4, Funny)

__Paul__ (1570) | more than 2 years ago | (#37771938)

Such a contradiction in terms. Christianity is not democratic. When was the last time God ran for election?

Re:Fuck you Italy (5, Funny)

Chrisq (894406) | more than 2 years ago | (#37772094)

Such a contradiction in terms. Christianity is not democratic. When was the last time God ran for election?

Is that you Lucifer?

Re:Fuck you Italy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37771930)

I'm not from Italy, but if their view of the EU is anything like ours here in Denmark, they could not care less about EU politicians. Few can name even one, fewer bother to vote at the EU elections, and fewer still know anything about the candidates.

Re:Fuck you Italy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37772026)

i'm sorry i didn't vote him, neither my friends.
Problem here is that we live with a lot of people who don't understand, don't use Internet and are very old.
He was able to go to EU thanks to 20 000 votes but if you search for him you'll find a lot of "dark" things around him.

I'm ashamed by this kind of people and the fact that they represent me.

Re:Fuck you Italy (0)

Sqr(twg) (2126054) | more than 2 years ago | (#37772030)

On a scale of "stupid" voting an anti-pedo authoritarian cunt into the EU paralment is not as bad as voting a pedophile authoritarian cunt president of Italy. And neither is as bad as voting Bush/Vader president/vice president of the USA.

Re:Fuck you Italy (2)

Vectormatic (1759674) | more than 2 years ago | (#37772042)

Would someone from Italy like to explain why you voted this authoritarian cunt into the EU. Go on! I'd love to hear it!

Wouldnt know about the italian angle, but as a dutch guy, one of the reasons to vote for someone to get into the EU stuff is to get him out of local politics, perhaps the italians were just fed up with this idiot so much they decided to "promote him away"

Also, fuck that guy.

Presumably... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37771666)

It has a bunga bunda override switch.

Berlusconi first ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37771670)

then Motti and the rest of the politicos

Opposite Effect (3, Insightful)

igreaterthanu (1942456) | more than 2 years ago | (#37771672)

Studies have shown a negative correlation between the availability of porn and rape cases. IIRC this is also the case specifically with CP and child rape. If anything, this will make it worse for the children.

Not to mention the problems with a software based solution. The software will, of course, only run on certain operating systems, who is the government to mandate I purchase a particular operating system/or agree to a contract (e.g. the GPL)? Anyone who knows what they are doing can get around this anyway. Even if it calls home, it could be faked by using a VM.

Salem (1)

bky1701 (979071) | more than 2 years ago | (#37771732)

Society needs witches to hunt. First case I can think of was the Christians, then the pagans, then Jews, then Muslims, then "witches", then anarchists, then gays, then communists, then terrorists, now pedophiles. Sadly, it probably won't ever end. Humans have a tendency to want to kill the one who is "different" which often leads them to counter-productive activities, which quite often do nothing to harm the group they intend to. And it seems we can always find someone irreconcilably different, no matter how many greater differences have in the past been overcome, when we are at a loss for one.

Re:Salem (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37771792)

Wait, you are putting pedophiles in the same category as pagans, Jews, witches, anarchists, gays and communists. Terrorists, Christians and Muslims though...

Re:Opposite Effect (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37771740)

By appropriate definition, creation of child pornography requires sexual abuse of children

Re:Opposite Effect (2)

Ardeaem (625311) | more than 2 years ago | (#37771862)

Not necessarily by legal definitions. Some jurisdictions have decided that pornography that shows virtual children [cnn.com] is prosecutable, and yet does not require the sexual abuse of children. I guess maybe by "appropriate" definition, you meant your own definition, but even though the US Supreme Court decided that virtual child pornography is protected in some cases, that doesn't mean it isn't (or shouldn't be considered) child pornography.

Re:Opposite Effect (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37771942)

Actually no.

A 18 years old guy having sex with his 17 years old girlfriend while taping the act is *NOT* committing any sexual abuse, but *IS* producing child pornography.

Age of consent (14 in most countries, 16/18 in others) is something totally different from underage pornography.

Re:Opposite Effect (4, Insightful)

L4t3r4lu5 (1216702) | more than 2 years ago | (#37771814)

Never mind that, here's some statistics!

a) Most of the computers in the world are not involved in distribution of indecent images of minors.
b) Most of the incidents of sexual indecency with a minor are by members of the family, or close family friends.

Therefore, to have a greater chance of saving more children from sexual predators, we should ignore computers and break up all families. (Liberal use of the "~" marker here, folks).

Child exploitation, of all sorts, is very serious. However, this kind of outright idiocy on the part of policy makers is starting to make me physically ill. There are so many reason why this is an awful, awful idea, and I know I don't need to spell them out.

Why can't we have politicians who can think rationally?

Re:Opposite Effect (4, Insightful)

Kjella (173770) | more than 2 years ago | (#37772064)

Why can't we have politicians who can think rationally?

They rationally play on people's irrational fears. Don't assume all politicians are drooling idiots, being a successful politician and a successful manipulator share many of the same traits.

Re:Opposite Effect (5, Interesting)

Yvanhoe (564877) | more than 2 years ago | (#37771928)

Stop thinking that this has anything to do with porn. Stop thinking that the promoters of such laws care at all about pedophilia and fighting it. If they really cared, they would listen to the policemen and non-profits fighting it that censorship would be counter-productive.

They just hate internet. It is the #2 media behind TV and is still gaining importance. They want to be able to control it. They want to be able to shut down websites. They need to tackle protests.

The plan is simple : first, put a mechanism to fight against pedophilia. Then extend it to fight terrorism. Then, using the vague definitions of terrorism, use these tools to squash any kind of protest, because disturbing traffic is akin to terrorism.

Getting it in for one claim, using it for another (1)

sethstorm (512897) | more than 2 years ago | (#37771674)

They'll try to get it in "for the children", but would rather use it to preempt people that want to release unsavory information about a politician.

It'd be a black box that precedes a black-out or disappearance.

Re:Getting it in for one claim, using it for anoth (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37771972)

> They'll try to get it in "for the children"
You have no idea how literally that is being (ab)used by those people.
TFS mentions a "proposal to expand the data storage directive to Google searches", i.e.
"written declaration 29".
Take a look at the "Sign the written declaration No. 29 today!" site:
http://smile29.eu/

The Onion could not have done it better.

Of course, for the sake of the children! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37771686)

As if there weren't more pressing issues at the moment for Italy and all of Europe.

Don't Worry (5, Informative)

HopefulIntern (1759406) | more than 2 years ago | (#37771694)

Nothing will ever come of this. One crackpot idea from an idiot who knows nothing about technology does not constitute a reasonable proposal.

FTFA:

If it were China, North Korea or Saudi Arabia who had proposed this, what would we say then? It's scary in a democratic Europe to even hear a politician suggest such a thing. It is so absurd that I really hope we never have to discuss it seriously in Parliament.

-MEP Lars Christian Engstrom (Sweden)

The proposal claims to be based on users' rights and claims they are protected, that they should feel safe. He writes at the beginning that he did not want to create a new Big Brother Society. But then the whole document is about just that.

-Former Piratbyran founder and current telecomix hactivist Marcin de Kaminski

Re:Don't Worry (1)

mwvdlee (775178) | more than 2 years ago | (#37771916)

Nothing will ever come of this. One crackpot idea from an idiot who knows nothing about technology does not constitute a reasonable proposal.

...Unless the people responsible for voting the proposal in or out are equally ignorant of technology.

Not Gonna Happen (4, Insightful)

stereoroid (234317) | more than 2 years ago | (#37771702)

Like Members of Congress in the USA, EU MEPs come in all shapes, sizes, and states of sanity. This guy's just flying a kite, but any such law would apply the the MEPs too, and you can assume some of them have skeletons in their hard drives. Fuhgeddabouttit.

Re:Not Gonna Happen (2)

wvmarle (1070040) | more than 2 years ago | (#37771944)

The fact that someone at that level can fly a kite like that, and get away with it, is worrisome enough to me.

Re:Not Gonna Happen (1)

Joce640k (829181) | more than 2 years ago | (#37772076)

Yep. Why isn't he instantly being replaced with somebody who's got useful things on their mind?

Re:Not Gonna Happen (1)

andi75 (84413) | more than 2 years ago | (#37772052)

> some of them have skeletons in their hard drives

Not if they play the Chinese Version of World of Warcraft...

I bet.. (3, Interesting)

mvar (1386987) | more than 2 years ago | (#37771706)

... EU MEP Tiziano Motti (Italy) can't tell the difference between desktop PCs, laptops, smartphones and e-readers. Like most of the politicians anyway. Six or seven years ago in Greece some morons (a.k.a. the parliament majority) voted for a law to prohibit electronic gambling - On their way, they made Internet Cafés illegal as well as coin-up arcade games. It was fun to watch the police bust into Internet Cafés and arrest their owners just because they had 5-6 desktops PCs connected to the Internet.

Re:I bet.. (3, Interesting)

DZign (200479) | more than 2 years ago | (#37771768)

Very true - half of the stupid proposals are just because mp's want to get their name out in the press and say 'look I did something this year'..
Sometimes they either hardly know anything about the technology, or they are just so narrow minded that they don't consider it can apply to much more than they think of.

The law was good for dealers in arcade machines/pinball machines who could suddenly get some good deals in Greece.. (you still can btw, just got a mail with someone from Greece offering me pinball machines for sale :-)

Again? (1)

Lunaritian (2018246) | more than 2 years ago | (#37771718)

Someone really has to tell these guys about live CDs and Tor. It's impossible to monitor absolutely everything on the internet.

Re:Again? (1)

Psychotria (953670) | more than 2 years ago | (#37771734)

Yes, yes, yes. But you neglect to consider whether or not the MP has shares in the software provider company.

Re:Again? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37771878)

He's Italian AND an EU politician. That's the equivalent of an 11 on the corruption Richter-scale. So, that's a purely rhetorical question.

When it is easier to molest for real than download (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37771738)

Even if this were not grossly misused(which would surely happen), with this in place the child molesters will figure out that actually molesting children is less likely to get them caught than child porn. Making an incentive to do it for real instead of looking at it...

Misleading title !! (5, Insightful)

Zoxed (676559) | more than 2 years ago | (#37771744)

OK, this is Slashdot but 1 MEP suggests something, and it becomes "EU Debates Installing a Black Box On Your Computer". No one is debating anything !! (Unless TFA says more: it is currently Slashdotted.)

Re:Misleading title !! (2)

zixxt (1547061) | more than 2 years ago | (#37771780)

OK, this is Slashdot but 1 MEP suggests something, and it becomes "EU Debates Installing a Black Box On Your Computer". No one is debating anything !! (Unless TFA says more: it is currently Slashdotted.)

Its only takes one stupid idea to get a big enough following, especially with the "Think of the children" crowd and then boom its LAW!

Re:Misleading title !! (3, Informative)

HopefulIntern (1759406) | more than 2 years ago | (#37771790)

It doesn't. Like your assumption, it is one ignorant guy in need of some attention by suggesting a radical idea. The fact he had good support a while ago seems to suggest he is universally supported but they voices of other MEP's in response to his ludicrous proposition suggests otherwise. Nothing to worry about.

The italian political way... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37771748)

What do you think the chances are that EU MEP Tiziano Motti has some sort of a connection to a company or person which hopes to make money from Logbox?

Weirdly the Logbox technology seems to be a ColdFusion logging libary... good luck with that on a kindle

Do we have Strong AI? Pedophile Strong AI? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37771754)

"specifically whenever an image of sexually abused children is detected"
First, I'm pretty sure we haven't got software that can do that reliably.
Second, if we do, I certainly hope it's not sick enough to accept the job of scouring everyone's screen for kiddy porn. And if it is sick enough, somebody call John Connor quick.

This would help stop terrorists, too. (1)

cheekyjohnson (1873388) | more than 2 years ago | (#37771760)

Along with installing cameras in every home and spying on phone calls, we need to let the government log everyone's online activity, too. That'll stop those factually evil terrorists!

Re:This would help stop terrorists, too. (1)

HopefulIntern (1759406) | more than 2 years ago | (#37771800)

It's pedos they are going after today, but it's all the same when you look at the bigger picture.

Sounds like something Hitler would've loved! (1)

madfilipino (557839) | more than 2 years ago | (#37771766)

60 some odd years later, what Hitler wanted comes back to life -- a chance to spy on the people for the sake of "saving Christianity", "saving Germany", "saving Europe", "saving children", and soon, themselves.

No, thank you. This world doesn't need this kind of technology to help the modern equivalent of the KGB or the Stassi.

1984 (1)

stooo (2202012) | more than 2 years ago | (#37771774)

1984 is not a manual for politicians.
Hitler is back, in Brussels,. But don't worry. What could possibly go wrong ?

Re:1984 (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37771870)

1984 is not a manual for politicians.
Hitler is back, in Brussels,. But don't worry. What could possibly go wrong ?

One out of over seven hundred MEPs, one out of over seven hundred members of a body with very little real power within the EU, one man says something technologically illiterate and Slashdot runs for the hills for fear of Blackshirts and deathcamps?

Your post is absurd, absurd, hysterical and absurd. But thank you for keeping the world safe from totalitarianism. It's the thought (well, not thought, in this case... sentiment, perhaps) that counts....

P.S. Never, under any circumstances, watch C-SPAN. Your terror will know no bounds.

Berlusconi first ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37771776)

then Motti and the rest of the scumbags

Sure. (2)

maxwell demon (590494) | more than 2 years ago | (#37771782)

So if someone wants to research on the subject of child porn (not search for it, but search for information about it), and therefore enters that term into Google, he will cause an alarm at the police. Yeah, that makes perfectly sense. And of course they have the perfect algorithm to detect whether a photo shows an abused child. So it will never trigger if you e.g. send a holiday photo of your child at the beach to a friend.

And of course, that box will never be used for any other purpose. Well, OK, they'll probably will soon add terrorist triggers, because terrorists are very bad, too. Don't complain about the police knocking on your door, you just shouldn't have used the word "terror" when you referred to the experience with your ex. Oh, and copyright violations for sure are also a target to be added soon. Oh, and since it is installed everywhere anyway, why not use it also for criminal investigations? And of course the secret service should have access to it. And it would surely come in handy for finding whistleblowers ...

Ah, and if it's already there, why not add more functionality? Maybe not just report, but also block unwanted content? After all, it's bad stuff you want to be blocked. And of course it will never block legitimate but unwanted stuff ...

And of course pedophiles, terrorists, copyright violators etc. won't ever find a way around it. Sure.

In other news (1)

Issarlk (1429361) | more than 2 years ago | (#37771794)

Italy will solve it's unemployment problem. The governmnent decided to pay half the population to spy on the other half.
"It's totaly not like the Stasi, we value freedom and privacy." commented one Italian MEP.

Bribed by Murdoch (1)

MysteriousPreacher (702266) | more than 2 years ago | (#37771798)

He surely must be taking back-handers from Murdoch. The only half-sane reason to suggest these "black boxes" would be so The Sun can run the headline "Barmy Brussels Big Brother Bill".

Huh? (1)

broknstrngz (1616893) | more than 2 years ago | (#37771802)

The LogBox link leads to a logging subsystem for a web framework. How is that connected to something running on one's computer?

I'm sure we all know this... (1)

FalconZero (607567) | more than 2 years ago | (#37771806)

...but clearly this isn't possible. Assuming this is software based, they'd have to prevent anyone installing 'unapproved' O/Ss, Also, live boots would be out. Also, all devices without said software would have to be 'dealt with'.

Also - the LogBox linked to in the article appears to be for a ColdFusion logging library - I suspect this is either lazy journalism or politician luditism.

2011 or 1984? (1)

inkrypted (1579407) | more than 2 years ago | (#37771818)

Is that the sound of big brother I hear approaching?

Re:2011 or 1984? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37771978)

Notice those insurance commercials which include a grey USB box that you can put in your car to save insurance rates?

What do you think it does? Spy on YOU!

Cars already do so and computers are next.

Won't someone think of the adults? (2)

mykos (1627575) | more than 2 years ago | (#37771820)

Children are sure going to hate life when they become adults and these black boxes were installed "for their protection" during a brief phase of their lives.

I find it ironic (1)

Hentes (2461350) | more than 2 years ago | (#37771822)

that Berlusconi's men are worrying about pedophiles.

Re:I find it ironic (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37771984)

Because having sexual relations with a 16yo is a clear case of paedophilia, yeah sure. On the other hand, Vouge (or some other "fashion" magazine) has 10yo on cover.

The title is BS (5, Insightful)

ardor (673957) | more than 2 years ago | (#37771830)

Both this Slashdot story and TFA have a very misleading title. ONE MEP is thinking about this insane idea. It is not even in Parliament for discussion. Another MEP already vehemently spoke against it.

Come on, ideas like these pop up and fizz out all the time. I bet there are other MEPs thinking about imprisoning gay people, reinstating a theocracy, establishing re-education centers, idolizing Hitler and Stalin, and so on and so forth. That doesn't mean any of these wacky ideas come through. There are no indications that this one will.

Plus, it is not technically feasible, even with deep packet inspection. To connect the dots, to know who uploaded what where, is far from trivial, especially if the bad scary pedophile uses non-standard ways of transmitting this data. For example, what if he uses zip files? Also, there is encryption, which totally defeats this "logbox".

Logbox? (1)

Dr. Hok (702268) | more than 2 years ago | (#37771836)

TFA links to "a technology called LogBox [riaforge.org]", a logging library for ColdFusion. That doesn't make sense. IMHO log4j would be much better.

One crazy MP does not change the laws of the EU (1)

fantomas (94850) | more than 2 years ago | (#37771850)

One MP having a crazy idea does not mean the law will get changed over the whole of the EU. There are many examples of MPs who have changed one law but failed to change other laws. Every country has their radical MPs who make grand statements to capture media attention, it doesn't mean that their ideas will become law (we have to be thankful that the craziest ideas of the craziest US representatives haven't become law in the USA over the last 50 years).

there is a word for that pedophiles ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37771854)

in german it's called "totschlagargument" ;)

This sounds absolutely fine. (1)

Gordonjcp (186804) | more than 2 years ago | (#37771962)

I'm more than happy to let them have this, just as long as we also have a black box on our politicians. All addresses, telephone numbers, email addresses, financial information and physical location for all the politicians, publically available, all the time.

If they've nothing to hide, they've nothing to worry about.

PARENTS rape children, NOT strangers (4, Insightful)

dbet (1607261) | more than 2 years ago | (#37771970)

The people who actually molest kids are those with easy access to them. most cases of abuse are from moms, dads, stepmoms, aunts and uncles, sometimes even a teacher. They don't care if you monitor their computer because they don't need one to get what they're after. No amount of computer monitoring or demonizing things that are even tangentially related to kiddie porn will prevent or even slow down actual cases of actual abuse.

These laws are about removing people from society who don't have a "healthy" sexual attitude. That's why drawings are illegal in many places. Because it's not about reducing abuse, it's about people making themselves feel less uncomfortable about their own sexuality. In my own country, the people here are absolutely bat shit crazy when it comes to sexuality. They fear it, and they hate people who have a different attitude about it than they do. My generation is the first where simply being gay is not a crime. Hell at this point I can see things at the beach that would be illegal on my computer. There have even been people investigated for looking at porn of adults who are young looking. And if you let yourself get wrapped up in this paranoia you are helping no one and hurting everyone, including yourself.

And this needs to be said:

I would rather live in a world where occasional child abuse happens, than one where it never happens because we're all under constant surveillance.

is the TPM chip not working? (1)

kubitus (927806) | more than 2 years ago | (#37772008)

or is the DC of Italy not trustworthy for Wintel?NSA to tell them that this comes already with every computer running a majority Operating System 7?

Mhmmm temptation... (1)

lorinc (2470890) | more than 2 years ago | (#37772016)

Mr Motti, if you manage to have such logging capabilities installed on all European systems by default, I promise I will hack it. I will hack it and use the one on your computer to find all your dirty laundry related to political and financial affairs, and I will make all of them public. It will stink so fucking much you'll praise the Lord such a logging system would never have existed. Beware...

I'm guessing (1)

DrXym (126579) | more than 2 years ago | (#37772056)

That Tiziano Motti is an idiot and his suggestion will be laughed out of parliament.

Let him know what you think about this (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37772060)

Mr. Motti official email address at the European Parliament: tiziano.motti@europarl.europa.eu
Mr. Motti homepage: www.motti.eu

What's going on here? (1)

Xelios (822510) | more than 2 years ago | (#37772090)

The last 3 accepted stories have had clearly misleading titles or summaries. I don't normally complain about editing on /. but christ guys, get it together.

For the children, catch all (4, Interesting)

Gideon Wells (1412675) | more than 2 years ago | (#37772100)

Forgive me for being a bit rude, but I woke up to this article. Mr. Motti, considering the reputation your PM has been gathering I must say screw you.

I am at the point I am no longer phased by the phrase "think of the children". All of this to protect kids? Dear god, at this point you might as well just take all the kids away from their parents in the hospital and raise them completely isolated from adults. Maybe even other kids so they don't even know what kids look like to be turned on by them.

An image of a child being abused? I mean, obviously this guy has no clue about technology. Still, he did not research prior censorship attempts first? The whole Green Dam (or was it River) of China's blocking a website for showing too much skin was horribly broken. Should Europeans expect their equivalent of SWAT Teams to start charging in if they look up pig farming?

And... and... *double face palms and sighs* Why the hell are politicians so apt to look at 1984 and like books as guides rather than warnings?

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