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Blizzard Announces New WoW Expansion: Mists of Pandaria

Soulskill posted more than 2 years ago | from the april-fools-becomes-a-reality dept.

Role Playing (Games) 276

Blizzcon 2011 kicked off today, and the biggest announcement from the opening ceremonies was the development of a new expansion for World of Warcraft. Titled Mists of Pandaria, the expansion will focus on the battle between the Horde and the Alliance instead of a traditional Big Bad Enemy. There will be both a new race — Pandaren — and a new class — Monk. The level cap will be raised to 90, there will be "challenge mode" dungeons, and they're introducing a pet battle system. Blizzard also mentioned that people who buy a 12-month subscription to WoW will get a copy of Diablo 3 for free.

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276 comments

NERF PANDAS! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37797632)

nt

Nice.. more grinding (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37797646)

It looks like more of the same.. grind a new race up and do more boring dungeons.

Re:Nice.. more grinding (2)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 2 years ago | (#37797850)

Except you can do racial changes.

And if Death Knights, Goblins and Worgen were any indication, the starter zones are worth the time of trying out a new character.

Re:Nice.. more grinding (2)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 2 years ago | (#37798050)

Except you can do racial changes.

And if Death Knights, Goblins and Worgen were any indication, the starter zones are worth the time of trying out a new character.

They really need to move on from this dungeon crawl stuff.

Maybe something like World of Banking - take your group down a dangerous trail of betting on derivatives and making high risk loans ...

Re:Nice.. more grinding (1)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 2 years ago | (#37798198)

No one is forcing end game dungeons or raids on you.

My wife plays World of Auctioncraft, has fun.

Re:Nice.. more grinding (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37798532)

My wife plays World of Auctioncraft, has fun.

You live in your mother's basement, enjoy your hand.

Re:Nice.. more grinding (1)

SmurfButcher Bob (313810) | more than 2 years ago | (#37798572)

Dammit Wyatt, tell her to post more greys below vendor price, please. :)

Re:Nice.. more grinding (1)

ObsessiveMathsFreak (773371) | more than 2 years ago | (#37798342)

Millions of people pay $15 a month to do that. It's a business model.

Re:Nice.. more grinding (1)

rwven (663186) | more than 2 years ago | (#37798624)

More of the same? Hardly.

It looks like more of all the worst parts of wow, with a candy coated cartoon plot added on top. Ugh. This is embarrassingly bad.

Still a grind (5, Insightful)

jhoegl (638955) | more than 2 years ago | (#37797652)

Zzzz..... WoW bores me to no end these days. A new expansion will not help.
PvP is gear based, which requires grinding, Dungeons are gear based which requires grinding, crafting requires grinding....

Same crap, different day.

Re:Still a grind (1)

rossz (67331) | more than 2 years ago | (#37797758)

And grinding is damn annoying to casual players such as myself. I would like to go after the lich king, but my gear sucks. Even at the max level of 85, I get my ass handed to me. In the group I'm usually the first to die because of my gear (being a mage doesn't help, either). I do not want to run through the same dungeons a hundred times hoping for an epic drop that might give me a slight improvement in stats because that is boring. I will say, however, that WoW's reliance on gear is a whole lot better than Diablo 2, where gear was the only thing that mattered.

Re:Still a grind (1)

jhoegl (638955) | more than 2 years ago | (#37797822)

Yeah, added on top of that casual that they tried to limit the runs to 24 hours+, it made it terrible.
Hell, MC was fun even though I was geared out because of the 40 people I hung out with. Now its 5, 10, 15... little groups of friends. What is the point of big guilds now?

They screwed up big IMO...

Re:Still a grind (1)

scubamage (727538) | more than 2 years ago | (#37797866)

Agreed. There was nothing quite as fun as a 40 person raid. Such utter chaos. "YOU'RE THE BOMB!!!!"

Re:Still a grind (2)

Stradenko (160417) | more than 2 years ago | (#37797944)

The beauty of 40-man raids was that you could have a half-dozen casuals and as long as they understood the mechanics of what was going on (i.e.: they didn't do stupid stuff) there's still a sizable group of folks to pick up the slack.

Re:Still a grind (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37798004)

" (i.e.: they didn't do stupid stuff) "

LEEEROOOOOOOOY JENKINS

Re:Still a grind (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37798136)

The beauty of 40-man raids was that you could have a half-dozen casuals and as long as they understood the mechanics of what was going on (i.e.: they didn't do stupid stuff) there's still a sizable group of folks to pick up the slack.

Yep - and when you extend that to the occasional 90 man EQ raids (which didn't need 90), it was still true that you really only needed a dozen people that actually understood the whole game.

Re:Still a grind (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 2 years ago | (#37798300)

NO you could not. One under geared person, and it would be TPK.

Re:Still a grind (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37798504)

It depends on the fights. If you have a TPK due to a single player then the leader needs to review the fight, even then it is very hard to wipe due to one guy unless they are trying to sabotage the fight. Also, that wipe would be due to messing up the game dynamics, not due to gear. Gear usually just means that guy dies, not the whole party.

Re:Still a grind (1)

AngryDeuce (2205124) | more than 2 years ago | (#37798560)

That's a fucking 50 DKP minus!!!

Re:Still a grind (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37797894)

Any crappy green level 85 gear you have today is still much better then the epic level 80 gear from the litch king era. If you are dieing trying to kill the litch king at level 85 with level 85 gear.... I hate to say it but gear is not the probelm.

Re:Still a grind (1)

mitgib (1156957) | more than 2 years ago | (#37798340)

Any crappy green level 85 gear you have today is still much better then the epic level 80 gear from the litch king era. If you are dieing trying to kill the litch king at level 85 with level 85 gear.... I hate to say it but gear is not the probelm.

I didn't replace any of my 80 raid gear until actual better pieces dropped, and that didn't happen til heroics and rep gear, nothing green or blue is better then well geared 80 raiding gear. but the grind got to me and moved on to other things and let WoW lapse like millions of others did.

Re:Still a grind (1)

mwvdlee (775178) | more than 2 years ago | (#37797916)

As a casual gamer, I can confidently state that MMORPG's are not for casual players but only for hardcore gamers willing to spend large quantities of time and money. I have yet to encounter and MMORPG that doesn't feel like endless grinding within the first hour of play.

As for the extensiion in the topic; Kung Fu Panda.

Re:Still a grind (2)

Clsid (564627) | more than 2 years ago | (#37798100)

My brother is a casual gamer and he enjoys Warcraft a lot. It all depends on what your goals are. If you are the kind of casual gamer who just wants to finish the game, have the top score and best gear of course you'll need to grind. But in the case of my brother he just enjoys doing quests, leveling whenever it may come and even just enjoying flying and trying crazy stuff to test out the virtual world.

Re:Still a grind (1)

mwvdlee (775178) | more than 2 years ago | (#37798312)

Thing is, all those quests usually are the same deal; slay a dozen of those creaters over there or collect a dozen of these objects.
Another thing that annoys the hell out of me in most (though not all) MMORPG's is the sheer amount of time it takes to move around. I enjoy the visual aspects of games; I enjoy wandering around, exploring sites and discovering things in them; I don't enjoy walking for 15 minutes in a monotonous forest just to kill some wolves. Seems like all quests involve killing something. Perhaps there are more interresting quests at the higher levels, but as a casual gamer I can get in maybe four or five hours of gaming a week at most so I simply have no time to spend on reaching such a level.
Sadly, the entire business model of MMORPG's revolves around very slowly opening up new content to keep players paying monthly subscriptions as long as possible.

Re:Still a grind (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 2 years ago | (#37798276)

I second that emotion. I've tried to get into MMO's, but every side mission is basically "go fetch me 10 wolf pelts" or some variation. I played MUD's back in the day, and they never seemed like this kind of grind. So I'm killing 10 wolves in WoW, mining some asteroid in EVE, or whatever, OVER AND OVER AGAIN. About the only MMO that I have liked so far was Guild Wars, not only because it was free and easy server-changing made it easy to play with friends, but because it was one of the few MMO's I've seen with an actual epic *story* behind it.

Re:Still a grind (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37798454)

As a casual gamer, I can confidently state that MMORPG's are not for casual players but only for hardcore gamers willing to spend large quantities of time and money. I have yet to encounter and MMORPG that doesn't feel like endless grinding within the first hour of play.

Actually, there is one.

Vendetta Online [vendetta-online.com] does not require a lot of grinding. Being good is 75-90% skill, and only 10-25% gear. A veteran player can very easily kick ass of a newbie who has the best gear avaiable.

However Vendetta has another disadvantage comparing to WOW or other MMOs: it is boring, there isn't much happening there really.

Re:Still a grind (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37798502)

"As a casual gamer, I can confidently state that MMORPG's are not for casual players but only for hardcore gamers "

As a hardcore gamer, I can confidently state that MMORPG's are only for casual players. They take huge amounts of time, yes, but that doesn't make them a hardcore game.

Try ascending in nethack without cheating the permadeath. That's hardcore. MMPORGs are not hardcore, and I have played 5 of them all the way back to the very early days of EQ. They're grinds. Grinds != hardcore.

Re:Still a grind (1)

TheBlackMan (1458563) | more than 2 years ago | (#37798542)

As a casual gamer, I can confidently state that MMORPG's are not for casual players but only for hardcore gamers willing to spend large quantities of time and money. I have yet to encounter and MMORPG that doesn't feel like endless grinding within the first hour of play.

Actually, there is one. Vendetta Online [vendetta-online.com] does not require a lot of grinding. Being good is 75-90% skill, and only 10-25% gear. A veteran player can very easily kick ass of a newbie who has the best gear avaiable. In VO, it only takes 1-3 weeks of play to grind up to playable levels, so you can fight with the best. However Vendetta a big disadvantage comparing to WOW or other MMOs: it is boring, there isn't much happening there really.

Re:Still a grind (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37797920)

if you're level 85 and you're dying to the lich king, it's not because of your gear, since it's trivial to kill the lich king in greens at level 85. most likely you're dying to the encounter mechanics, which involves dispelling diseases onto enemies (but not friends, or everyone dies), not standing in black puddles (everyone dies), not standing under ghosts (everyone dies), etc.

Re:Still a grind (1)

whereiswaldo (459052) | more than 2 years ago | (#37797978)

To deal with the huge range of ability (or patience for grinding) of different WoW players, one feature idea I had was what I would call Difficulty Scaling.

Basically, you could scale your character to take a lesser percentage of damage, but in return you would get benefits like experience/honor points, and could affect drop rates, too.

So you'd be slower to level, but wouldn't die all the time, allowing you to participate in activities you normally wouldn't be geared for.

On the flip side, experience players could scale in the opposite way and take more damage but in return would get higher than usual benefits. That would provide faster leveling and more of a challenge to those who are already skilled at the game.

Re:Still a grind (2)

whereiswaldo (459052) | more than 2 years ago | (#37797998)

Basically, you could scale your character to take a lesser percentage of damage, but in return you would get benefits like experience/honor points, and could affect drop rates, too.

Should say:

Basically, you could scale your character to take a lesser percentage of damage, but in return you would get lower than usual benefits like experience/honor points, and could affect drop rates, too.

Re:Still a grind (1)

Kjella (173770) | more than 2 years ago | (#37798522)

Somehow I suspect this has a lot of unpredictable side effects, like one person supertanking by turning it way down so everyone else can score XP. Unless it affects party drop rates, but then everyone would hate you. Not saying it couldn't be done, but it would be a lot more complicated than adding a slider...

Re:Still a grind (1)

RingDev (879105) | more than 2 years ago | (#37798012)

If you are the first to die, especially at level 85 doing Litch King content, the issue isn't your gear.

The issue is almost NEVER gear, atleast for PvE.

The issue is almost always player knowledge/skill with their class, situational awareness for avoiding extraneous damage, and lack of knowledge of raid mechanics.

An excess of gear will allow players to overcome MOST mechanics. If your tank has 250k health and you're dealing with bosses that are only hitting for 20-30k, your healers can be half asleep and keep him up.

A green geared 85 putting out 10k+ DPS going back to an instance geared around 5-8k DPS should have no problems beating enrage timers.

For the most part, if you are the first to die, you did something wrong and while more gear might have mitigated it, it was your mistake to be in the position to die.

You're casual! Great, so am I these days. But I still make sure to take a couple of minutes and review the boss fights, or ask for a clear description of the fight, what my responsibilities are, and what I should look out for. Being casual doesn't mean you get to be ignorant and depend on others to carry you. It just means you can't grind like the hard core folks.

-Rick

Re:Still a grind (1)

superwiz (655733) | more than 2 years ago | (#37798090)

Isn't one the mechanics on HLK based on health %? That wouldn't change regardless of the level or gear. WoW has a few mechanics like that which don't change with the level (enfeeble is another one I can think of).

Re:Still a grind (1)

RingDev (879105) | more than 2 years ago | (#37798474)

Heroic Litch King has a number of issues that are completely non-gear determinent.

If you can't move out of the blast wave, you'll get knocked off the platform and die. Doesn't matter how much health you have, if you can't move, you die.

If your raid doesn't burn the angel chicks, the member they are carrying dies, again, doesn't matter what gear that person has, if folks don't switch targets, the person dies.

If people are standing in the black puddle, it will grow and encompass the entire platform. With a huge overgearing, you can survive this for quite a while, but odds are, you're going to wipe the raid if people don't get out of it.

With Tier 11ish gear, the disease is pretty well mitigated, especially since the DPS should burn through phase 1 waaaay faster. But if you're not careful with cleanses, or your DPS is really slacking, and people aren't doing the disease dance, the raid with wipe.

Gear can help, predominently in the following ways:
1) DPSers - more gear = more DPS, reducing phase and fight durations, less time = less chances to screw up = better odds of success.
2) Tanks - more gear = less healing, more heals for DPSers that would otherwise be dieing, or dropping a healer for a DPSer (see #1)
3) Healers - more gear = more efficient healing, less OOM issues, less healing pressure, possibility of swapping a healer for a DPSer (see #1 again)

Virtually every fight in WoW can be simplified by just adding more DPS. LK for example, if you have enough DPS to burn through Phase 1 before the explosion, it's way easier. Phase 2, the more dps, the faster the angels die, making it less likely that people will die, and the shorter the phase is meaning less angels and less black pools. and so on. So if your tanks are surviving the hits, and your healers aren't running OOM, it's all about the DPSers not dieing to raid mechanics and doing as much damage as they can.

-Rick

-Rick

Re:Still a grind (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37798582)

HLK was a positioning/organization fight, and (especially in 10-man) a perfection/comp check.

You had to have the entire fight planned perfectly. You had to move the moment you were told. You had to set yourself up properly for the fight.

Every last player needed to have their awareness on 11. Two-healing it was a nightmare, and you routinely had to save each other's asses. Ranged/melee had to bail each other out at times. Tanks needed to be picture-perfect with cooldowns, positioning, taunts.

And you really couldn't afford more than one mistake. As awful as ICC was (I personally will remember Ulduar as the best raid instance), HLK was the perfect way to end the expansion. One of the few truly satisfying kills I experienced.

Re:Still a grind (1)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 2 years ago | (#37797864)

Eve is skill training, mission running, ratting grind based.

Even if you bring outside money into Eve you have to grind skills out.

Re:Still a grind (1)

citizenr (871508) | more than 2 years ago | (#37798500)

Eve is skill training, mission running, ratting grind based.

Even if you bring outside money into Eve you have to grind skills out.

only if your definition of grind includes 'not doing a damn thing while you gain skills'.

Re:Still a grind (1)

nedlohs (1335013) | more than 2 years ago | (#37798510)

Aren't skills in eve just on timers? So the "grind" is just wait however long it will take - either doing other things or just logged out not actually playing at all.

or did that change (I played Eve long ago and not for very long then)?

Re:Still a grind (1)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 2 years ago | (#37798592)

Sure, if you include "doing anything else" as grinding. You don't even have to be in game. I can be skilling up while I'm at work, or eating dinner, etc.

Re:Still a grind (1)

Clsid (564627) | more than 2 years ago | (#37797960)

PvP has always been gear based. It seems like you weren't there when twinks roamed battlegrounds. If anything it is better than before.

Dungeons and the gear they might require is nothing to the crap you needed to do back in WoW classic where you needed to have a couple of resistance gear and the grinding was absolutely horrible. Again, in this regard they kind of dumbed down the game so I don't get you.

And with crafting, recall when you had to do the different specializations for each profession, like armorsmith or weaponsmith which by the time you were able to get the extremely difficult mats, most likely it was an alt who was going to be using whatever stuff you created.

I think you just grew tired of the game by playing so much. There is only so much novelty they can introduce to a game to make people feel entertained. I would suggest that you go and play or do other stuff and then comeback. You'll see that you will enjoy the game a bit more.

Re:Still a grind (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 2 years ago | (#37798082)

Zzzz..... WoW bores me to no end these days. A new expansion will not help.

PvP is gear based, which requires grinding, Dungeons are gear based which requires grinding, crafting requires grinding....

Same crap, different day.

I was saying the same thing about MUDs back in the 1990's. Life suck. Only MUDs were free.

Possibly Fixed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37798284)

Article promises something called Challenge Mode where gear is provided. The problem is, can you use Challenge Mode to get decent gear to use elsewhere?

Re:Still a grind (1)

babywhiz (781786) | more than 2 years ago | (#37798392)

I spend 3 hrs on Rated BG's on Sat night, and then wait till AV weekend to fill in the rest. I have my 4 pc Ruthless. I have done more grinding for my PvE set than I have my PvP set. *shrug*

Re:Still a grind (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37798418)

Got to 85, raided and dabbled in PVP for a while. Realized that not only was all my gear now useless but I had to go through the same grind as in WotLK with the same old complaining players and pecking orders as before. I've decided when I game it will be games I can pause or walk away from when I want without causing a disaster or infuriating others and I don't have to schedule like they are work. Left WoW cold and have never looked back.

If they came out with a true pick-up version of Wow or solo play version I'd consider it just for the pretty graphics and fights but that will never happen. I'm sure they'd still leave the miserable grinding in there too.

Re:Still a grind (1)

EXTomar (78739) | more than 2 years ago | (#37798606)

A lot of the world must bore you since "Diablo 3" is going to have grinding. "Dark Souls" has grinding. "Battlefield 3" and "Modern Warfare 3" are going to have grinding. So on and so on.

I am not defending "grinding" where I do find it an undesirable side effect of multiple game systems but I suspect "grinding" isn't the real reason The Parent Post don't like "World of Warcraft" any more. "WoW" has the most streamlined leveling system of any modern MMO and has the most dynamic raid content where no two fights are the same and they keep introducing new setups. If there is a game that has done a lot to mitigate "grinding" it has been this one so it makes me scratch my head when The Parent Post goes "Still a grind..."

Pet Battle system? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37797654)

When did Michael Vick join Blizzard?

Re:Pet Battle system? (1)

knight24k (1115643) | more than 2 years ago | (#37798016)

Oh for mod points....you made me choke on my coffee. lol

WOW gamers (2)

Synerg1y (2169962) | more than 2 years ago | (#37797662)

I wonder what priceless videos we can gain out of this expansion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YersIyzsOpc [youtube.com]

I'll keep looking for an mmorpg I can get into, till then SC2 and it's 100% free somewhat crappy servers ftw!

Re:WOW gamers (1)

sexconker (1179573) | more than 2 years ago | (#37797712)

Very old and very fake.
Onyxia Wipe is better. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtvIYRrgZ04 [youtube.com]

Re:WOW gamers (1)

Clsid (564627) | more than 2 years ago | (#37798208)

Holy cow, that video was hilarious. Thanks for posting. Still laughing my ass off

Got that backwards (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37797704)

Blizzard also mentioned that people who buy a 12-month subscription to WoW will get a copy of Diablo 3 for free.

Translation: The hordes of people who will buy Diablo 3 will get a free 12 month trial to our dying cash cow. All they have to do is get them in a different order.

Re:Got that backwards (1)

jhoegl (638955) | more than 2 years ago | (#37797772)

Yup... that is why they are developing a new MMO as well.

It will be interesting to see what they come up with, but anything grinding endlessly without a point will not do well.
DAoC did well until Mythic screwed it up, because the end game was a constant challenge
Same with Planetside and soon, Planetside 2.


Now I will admit, it is fun to gain new armor, and weapons, and such... but when it is the same thing over and over again like Blizzard made WoW, then it gets old.

Blizzard announces new WoW expansion (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37797708)

Titled Jumping The Shark, the expansion will focus on the battle between the hip and the square instead of traditional adversary The Man. /eyyy

April Fools (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37797768)

Pandarian exploits in WoW was the perfect april fools joke because the idea of it was so ridiculous... ...until they ran out of ideas, but still wanted more money.

Pandaren monk, so cute... and observations (1, Troll)

Dripdry (1062282) | more than 2 years ago | (#37797812)

-bow- My girlfriend and I just started playing WoW about 2 months ago. We've had a lot of fun, honestly. We're both working full time AND studying for professional certifications, so we don't really have time to go out. Staying in and playing WoW has kept us tied to our desks in order to get everything done, and allowed us to socialize together, with others, and have fun with the small amount of free time we do have (and stay up too late with gin & tonics occasionally). I can't speak for those who've played for a long time, but I love the way WoW has is set up now with the current expansion. The new enhancements sound like a delight, too. We're really excited! Some may say it's just renting a game every month, but compared to what we used to spend on going out to eat and socializing? Warcraft is a saving us quite a bit of money. Only thing is.... 12 months of WoW for diablo 3 free, when D3 basically sounds like a "rope'em in and then charge them" deal.. I don't know. A neat move on Blizz's part, though. Get new WoW members and Diablo 3 adherents... pretty slick marketing move.

Re:Pandaren monk, so cute... and observations (1)

eclectro (227083) | more than 2 years ago | (#37797922)

Have you received any promotional consideration for that post??

Re:Pandaren monk, so cute... and observations (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37798006)

It's not really an out of the ordinary post. It reflects the view of WoW that I've seen from the many couples who played it in my old guild. WoW isn't expensive when you consider all of the other activities it complements.

Re:Pandaren monk, so cute... and observations (1)

Clsid (564627) | more than 2 years ago | (#37797984)

Lol that is so true. Playing WoW saves tons of money even if it is at the cost of you becoming a hermit. In any case I've known people that met and dated thru the game and eventually got married, so it is just changing the way we interact I guess. Surrogates ftw :)

Re:Pandaren monk, so cute... and observations (1)

Dripdry (1062282) | more than 2 years ago | (#37798252)

Oh come on! I got modded down for expressing the unpopular sentiment that we are actually having fun playing Wow, and are looking forward to this, but that blizz has some interesting marketing techniques?

Look, I know it's not popular, but for someone new this game is a blast. It may be grinding, but it has it's challenges with lots of numbers to optimize and decisions to make (we hate PvP, we like working with others instead so don't worry about this "geared up" nonsense very much). We LOVE seeing the beautiful new venues, collecting outfits, and interacting together in this world blizzard created.

As far as a legitimate idea instead of gushing/ranting, here's one: I hope WoW gets more popularity because I told my girlfriend about Titan, that it's a sci-fi MMO, and she looked right at me and said,"Nope, not interested." I've gotten that feeling elsewhere, so I hope future additions breathe a little life into a franchise that will always have detractors and adherents.

Re:Pandaren monk, so cute... and observations (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37798494)

professional certifications

this made me lol

Straight to the top in an hour (1)

Luckyo (1726890) | more than 2 years ago | (#37797820)

Funnily, this made front page within an hour of being announced.

Like it or not, WoW is still popular.

Re:Straight to the top in an hour (2, Funny)

scubamage (727538) | more than 2 years ago | (#37797854)

You mispelled lame.

Re:Straight to the top in an hour (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37798186)

Your disdain for a popular game definitely makes you cool.

Re:Straight to the top in an hour (1)

jm007 (746228) | more than 2 years ago | (#37798558)

You misspelled misspell.

Re:Straight to the top in an hour (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37798670)

coffee + keyboard :(

kung fu panda? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37797824)

If I were Dreamworks I'd be suing the shit out of blizzard right about now.

Re:kung fu panda? (1)

Mastadex (576985) | more than 2 years ago | (#37797946)

The Pandaren have been in warcraft lore for quite some time. It would be an uphill struggle for Dreamworks.

Re:kung fu panda? (1)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 2 years ago | (#37797956)

I think the Pandarens are not a new race in WoW folklore. They've been around since the beginning which pre-dates Dreamworks' films. They just haven't been playable.

Re:kung fu panda? (1)

theghost (156240) | more than 2 years ago | (#37798114)

And you'd be laughed out of court. The Pandaren were an April Fools joke from 2003-ish. Kung Fu Panda came out in 2008.

Oblig. (2)

Mastadex (576985) | more than 2 years ago | (#37797836)

Skadoosh!

Kung-fu Panda (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37797874)

Just what we need.

Always a place in my heart for WoW... (1)

Rhacman (1528815) | more than 2 years ago | (#37797890)

I don't play WoW any more but I always thought Blizzard did a good job with it. There will always be people who don't like the grind, or MMOs in general but for me it was a more enjoyable use of the money than the additional cable channels I'd have spent it on. That said, I've always wondered if the Pandaren would make an appearance, or what the end of WoW would be like and I suspect this expansion will answer both questions lol.

Re:Always a place in my heart for WoW... (1)

Dunbal (464142) | more than 2 years ago | (#37798526)

Eh, I got a free trial of WoW with a video card I bought but didn't have time to grind as the program kept crashing.

Re:Always a place in my heart for WoW... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37798632)

WoW was slated from the beginning to have 5 expansions, this is only the 4th. So no, this won't answer the question of what the end of WoW will be like.

woot woot (1)

hesaigo999ca (786966) | more than 2 years ago | (#37797958)

I got my taking cap on, can't wait to brush off the keyboard cobwebs and get cracking on next n tier set.

shark jumping (1)

coffii (76089) | more than 2 years ago | (#37797996)

Well I'd like to thank Blizzard for the trailer, best laugh I've had in a long time. Awful, simply awful.

In other news... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37798030)

Adult diaper manufacturers increase production to prepare for the rise on demands of its products on the upcoming months.

Awesome (1)

Clsid (564627) | more than 2 years ago | (#37798038)

This is a welcome addition. I think a game based in monks and Asian culture is going to be far more interesting than the current Cataclysm expansion. Cata was good but not to the level of Wrath of the Lich King which truly felt epic. I also like that they are having Alliance and Horde finally clashing since to me it all seemed like a bunch of crap to have these two warring factions almost taking a stroll and having tea together. This is a game of WARcraft in the end.

Re:Awesome (1)

Cinder6 (894572) | more than 2 years ago | (#37798576)

Agreed; I am actually interested in this, and may reactivate since I already plan on buying Diablo 3. I thought Cataclysm wasn't terribly exciting after hitting 85, whereas WotLK was great until the end. I always wanted a monk class in the game, too. But really, Blizzard, what we need is playable murlocs, not pandas.

Who comes up with the names for this shite? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37798054)

Seriously, who? Are they really out of ideas?

Wow meets Kung Fu Panda?! (2, Insightful)

rs1n (1867908) | more than 2 years ago | (#37798074)

I know that Blizzard is well known for little jokes and references to the real world... so I couldn't help but notice the connection between the new race and their semblances to a very well known kung-fu fighting panda of the big screen. Any idea if this was the "inspiration" for the expansion?

Re:Wow meets Kung Fu Panda?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37798162)

could be more the other way around. They had panderian brew master hero in warcraft3. and they had a quest mentioning them in vanilla wow.

Re:Wow meets Kung Fu Panda?! (2)

gblackwo (1087063) | more than 2 years ago | (#37798178)

Nah, the Pandarens were sort of a joke starting back in 2002 (Warcraft 3), and the joke actually kinda became part of the blizzard universe.

Re:Wow meets Kung Fu Panda?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37798226)

No. There was a Pandaren Brewmaster in Warcraft III which is about 10 years old now. There has been speculation that Pandaren would be added to the game since the beginning of WoW.

Re:Wow meets Kung Fu Panda?! (1)

compro01 (777531) | more than 2 years ago | (#37798306)

Or it could have been the other way around. In Warcraft lore, the Pandaren predate that movie by at least 5 years. They showed up in warcraft 3.

Also, a bare-fisted melee character was part WoW in the early alpha. It was the priest discipline spec, though that got removed very early, probably for balance reasons. Pre-cata, you could still see remnants of that in some of the discipline talents.

What's really going on here? (1)

H3lldr0p (40304) | more than 2 years ago | (#37798094)

A new expac announcement inside a year of the last being brought out.

A race and class that's been begged for since the beginning. And was once a April-fools joke.

An additional game, gratis, for long term subscribers.

Is it just me or does this have the reek of desperation? They reported a drop in numbers earlier this year, and it makes me wonder if that drop has been steady all year long. Why else bait the hook with so much junk? It doesn't feel like Blizz has the same confidence in the game they had before.

Re:What's really going on here? (1)

Clsid (564627) | more than 2 years ago | (#37798220)

The game is pretty old at this point you know. I think part of the reason is because Cataclysm wasn't as good as the other expansions. They are just fixing that by releasing a new one.

Re:What's really going on here? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37798440)

I think Cataclysm was announced within a year of Wrath coming out, no? The thing about WoW being so old now is that they've made some bad decisions when it comes to fundamental aspects of the game over the years, and eventually those add up and kill, well, most games that change as they age.

Really, one of the biggest problems with the game (at least when I left in January) is that there isn't enough 'wild' player interaction. Except on large, well-balanced PvP realms, other players are either a nuisance or partners in organized activities. I really think player-controlled flight is the one aspect that really set the stage for the eventual death of WoW.

Re:What's really going on here? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37798520)

Could be. Is Blizzard attempting to mitigate potential losses to new games coming out relatively soon (i.e. SW:tOR and Guild Wars 2)?

Got tired of the drama... (1)

fallen1 (230220) | more than 2 years ago | (#37798130)

Even with the smaller guilds syndrome, I still got tired of all the drama 30 and 40-man guilds could create. Seeing as I was the guild leader, that made it even worse. So many fucking massive egos to try and placate or squash that I finally said "Screw you guys, I'm going home." I changed the officers of the guild around to who I thought was best to run it, left myself as leader (intending to go back and turn it over), and then logged out. I haven't been back in almost two years now.

And I really do not miss it. Amazing, I know. Level-capped multiple characters, profitable professions, cash on hand, decent 10-man core of players that did get along, and a lot of others I enjoyed talking to. Still don't miss it but, of course, all of those friends who formed the core left as well within a short span of time -- if they had not left before.

Now I play some DDO and an old-school MUD and am looking forward to Star Wars: The Old Republic. With a very small, friends and family only guild. Fuck being the largest or first to do X crap. I want to have fun with friends and socialize while killing those scum in the Republic.

MMO FPS (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37798238)

I'm still waiting for an MMO FPS where there is no gear and the game is entirely player skill based (minus ping and hardware). The competition alone would keep people coming back for more.

No thanks. (1)

CFBMoo1 (157453) | more than 2 years ago | (#37798246)

I'll stick with Minecraft and Champions Online. I'm tired of the WoW treadmill after 6 years. Best of all Champions is cheaper then WoW if you stay silver.

Re:No thanks. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37798444)

Implying that champoins online wasnt so bad that it went FTP in 6 months.

Only if Jack Black does the voice work (1)

DynamoJoe (879038) | more than 2 years ago | (#37798272)

I mean, really.

Wtf? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37798274)

Is this a joke?

Zero Interest In Diablo 3 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37798294)

That's the thing that won't even run in single player mode if you can't connect to their servers, right?

Analogy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37798318)

WoW is like Paris Hilton... popular for being popular (naked night elves are like the sex tape). People are slowly realizing that there isn't anything to it any more.

News for addicts (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37798640)

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