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Military Labs Develop Caffeinated Jerky and "Zapplesauce"

samzenpus posted more than 2 years ago | from the military-power-lunch dept.

The Military 151

A military research facility outside Boston has come up two new super foods for MREs (Meal, Ready to Eat). Soon soldiers will able to stay awake during guard duty thanks to caffeinated meat sticks. They'll have the energy for extended patrols from a "super-charged" applesauce. From the article: "'There is a lot of science that goes into this,' said David Accetta, a spokesman for the Natick Soldier Research, Development & Engineering Center, where every item put into an MRE is tested and tasted. 'And that’s what a lot of people don’t realize. It’s not just a bunch of cooks in the kitchen making up recipes.'”

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Food industri selling drugs (-1, Flamebait)

del_diablo (1747634) | more than 2 years ago | (#37897616)

Could the food industri please stop selling addictive drugs to people? Its really annoying to watch.

I have a better idea: (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37897688)

Could you please learn to English?

Re:I have a better idea: (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37897760)

"Could the food industri please stop selling addictive drugs to people? Its really annoying to watch."
---"Could you please learn to English?"
who needs to learn what now?

Re:I have a better idea: (1)

del_diablo (1747634) | more than 2 years ago | (#37897782)

Coffine is one of the most addicted substances known to man.

Re:I have a better idea: (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 2 years ago | (#37897864)

Coffine is one of the most addicted substances known to man.

Cool, where can I get it? Caffeine is so twentieth century anyway. And tobacco is nasty stuff.

Any side effects we should know about?

Re:I have a better idea: (1)

kelemvor4 (1980226) | more than 2 years ago | (#37897940)

Coffine is one of the most addicted substances known to man.

Cool, where can I get it? Caffeine is so twentieth century anyway. And tobacco is nasty stuff.

Any side effects we should know about?

It turns your semen bright blue, but has not been proven to result in birth defects.

Re:I have a better idea: (1)

ByOhTek (1181381) | more than 2 years ago | (#37898342)

Any side effects we should know about?

Impaired language skills to both you and those you interact with, apparently.

With a name like that, I'd also expect occasional outbreaks of death and burial in a box.

Re:I have a better idea: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37898068)

believe it or not, the army already runs on coffee, and MREs already include coffee. [theepicenter.com] This just makes it more convenient than trying to find hot water.

Re:Food industri selling drugs (3, Interesting)

stms (1132653) | more than 2 years ago | (#37897726)

A ./ article about MREs and the first post is criticizes our food system. These are not designed for civilians these are military field rations. Honestly it's pretty neat.

Re:Food industri selling drugs (1)

Hatta (162192) | more than 2 years ago | (#37898460)

Does that make it any better? What's wrong with a caffeine pill? Do you really want a soldier getting caffeinated when he's just hungry?

Re:Food industri selling drugs (1)

Moryath (553296) | more than 2 years ago | (#37899708)

They've improved the taste somewhat over the years.

On the other end, however, it still gives you constipation like you wouldn't believe. They should start packing an ex-lax into each one to balance it out...

Re:Food industri selling drugs (1)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 2 years ago | (#37897932)

Yep, because the food industry sells MREs [wikimedia.org] primarily to the public.

Re:Food industri selling drugs (3, Interesting)

Moryath (553296) | more than 2 years ago | (#37899828)

They airdrop them into third-world areas as a "humanitarian" gesture. Only then they call them an "HDR" ("Humanitarian Daily Ration.")

Wrapped in yellow plastic dangerously similar to the yellow plastic around unexploded cluster bomb munitions, approximately the same size/shape too.

Just to confuse the fuck out of the poor people who don't know if they're about to get a meal or their hand blown off... [commondreams.org]

Re:Food industri selling drugs (1)

Fned (43219) | more than 2 years ago | (#37898564)

Could the food industri please stop selling addictive drugs to people?

No.

Well, I mean they could, but then someone else would do it instead.

Futurama is finally here!! (5, Funny)

Faw (33935) | more than 2 years ago | (#37897640)

“I’m never gonna get used to the 31st century. Caffeinated bacon? Baconated grapefruit? ADMIRAL Crunch?”
Fry, Futurama

Re:Futurama is finally here!! (3, Funny)

Jason Levine (196982) | more than 2 years ago | (#37897752)

Next thing you know, they'll give soldiers Big Pink gum. It's the only gum with the breath freshening power of ham and it pinkens your teeth while you chew.

Re:Futurama is finally here!! (1)

uberjack (1311219) | more than 2 years ago | (#37897852)

If you don't like that, try some Archduke Chocula. (P.S. It appears that you beat me to it. I tip my hat to you, Sir)

Re:Futurama is finally here!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37898178)

If you don't like that, try some Archduke Chocula.

(P.S. It appears that you beat me to it. I tip my hat to you, Sir)

You could've pulled off your own Futurama quote with "tip my bonnet to you".

(Followed by "dumbass"...)

MRE (1)

damn_registrars (1103043) | more than 2 years ago | (#37897662)

Or as the veterans I know who were familiar with them call them:

Meals, Rarely Edible.

Re:MRE (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37897718)

Well then, can I have your laxative cocoa if you're not going to drink it?

Re:MRE (2)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 2 years ago | (#37897854)

The shocking thing is that there was apparently someone somewhere who thought a cook was involved in preparing MREs. This person, like Tom Lehrer's mess sergeant, probably has his tastebuds shot off in the war...

That said, the desserts aren't too bad, although mainly because they are 90% sugar...

Re:MRE (2)

kryliss (72493) | more than 2 years ago | (#37898558)

I used to love the BBQ pork and rice, Ham slice and the Corned Beef Hash MREs. One was smart to save their Tobasco sauce from the good packs to use when you got stuck with something like.... Omlete pack number 1......

USMC 1990-1994

Re:MRE (1)

Gilmoure (18428) | more than 2 years ago | (#37898770)

Yeah, when we had to pull out after Desert Storm, we had a pile of Omelet packs left over (all gone through for any good stuff). They burned with a green/black smoke. Weird!

USAF '87-'94

Re:MRE (2)

Hunter-Killer (144296) | more than 2 years ago | (#37899146)

During OIF I, I made the grievous error of saying that #4, Country Captain Chicken, wasn't that terrible. After a few days of my coworkers selflessly saving the #4 for me while they got first pick on a new box, I quickly recanted.

Re:MRE (4, Interesting)

hey! (33014) | more than 2 years ago | (#37899770)

I think it's a bit like the uncanny valley. MREs are close enough to regular food that you focus on the differences between them and freshly prepared food. They really aren't bad for something that can be eaten after sitting on the shelf unrefrigerated for years, being exposed to temperatures ranging from -60F to +120F, then dropped 100 feet.

The old C-rations left no doubt as to what they were about. It was quite obvious the only reason anyone would willingly consume a C-ration was that the alternative was death by starvation. It also weighed 5.5 lb, as opposed to 1lb 2oz - 1lb 10oz for a modern MRE. K rations were so bad that even the prospect of starvation wasn't enough. Men in one unit lost an average of 35 pounds living on them and contracted pellagra and beriberi. According to one report, soldiers who'd been forced to survive on K-rations would vomit at the mere sight of a K ration box afterwards.

No prepackaged meals have ever been as good as even mediocre fresh cooking. Yet people still buy frozen dinners and freeze-dried camping food. MREs seem to be in the same range as that stuff. You wouldn't want to live on them, but they sure beat starvation.

Cornholio (1)

PvtVoid (1252388) | more than 2 years ago | (#37897684)

Have you ever actually eaten an MRE? The things are 1200 calories or so, about 900 of those from raw sugar. What better way to get a bunch of teenagers to go out and kill people, than to get them all hopped up on a sugar high like a squad of heavily armed Cornholios? [wikipedia.org]. Caffeinated jerky fits right in.

Re:Cornholio (2, Informative)

Oswald McWeany (2428506) | more than 2 years ago | (#37897742)

Actually getting "hopped up on sugar" is a myth.

People don't get more hyper-active after eating sugar- or if they do, it is not because of the sugar per-se than the stimulating environment that often surrounds times we eat sugar. Kids at b'day party get hyper because it is a b'day party- not because they ate cake.

Most people (kids included) who don't have insulin-related problems don't undergo any kind of wild mood swings due to eating sugary foods.

Re:Cornholio (1)

lister king of smeg (2481612) | more than 2 years ago | (#37897832)

you have obviously never been around children the day after Halloween, Easter, or Valentines day, try it some time will will quickly learn how wrong you are.

Re:Cornholio (1)

maxdread (1769548) | more than 2 years ago | (#37898020)

Further helping to support his claim that it has a lot to do with the events we associate with a so called sugar high. Those are all fun days for a kid, of course they're gonna be hyperactive, that's what kids do. At least until we teach them to plant their fat asses in front of an xbox for 8 hours a day.

Re:Cornholio (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37898362)

Feed a kid a couple of candy bars. Watch them bounce off the furniture.

Some kids dont react at all to it. Some turn into crazed bumper cars. Your point again?

You even already know the reason. Acclimation (8 hours a day comment), is what causes them to 'not react'. They eventually get used to it. But until then they get jittery and bouncy.

I used to do it to my nephews and nieces all the time. Give them a couple of sugar flavored water drinks then return them to their parents. Short time after my sister would cal 'why did you do that I cant get them to goto sleep and they are racing around?'. Mean joke? Yes, but demonstrates you are speaking from your other end...

Re:Cornholio (2)

Captain.Abrecan (1926372) | more than 2 years ago | (#37898044)

It's a lot different when it has been scientifically proved wrong. Your experience with children has made you prejudiced. When you have a double blind test done with hundreds of kids, and sugar has zero effect on them no matter what race, age, disabilities, dietary intake, etc. then you can see that sugar does nothing to the human body unless you already have some horrible insulin related problem. Society has known about this since 1995, wake up.

Re:Cornholio (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37899948)

It's mostly a placebo effect. That, and they do have all this energy from the sugar.

What sort of studies were those? Because if the idea was to give kids sugar without them knowing they were getting a sugar rush, then you'll eliminate the placebo effect. But normally, kids know when they're getting sugar, so the converse needs to be tested... give kids sugary food, and give them food that's sweet but with a sugar substitute, and then see whether there's a difference.

Re:Cornholio (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37899364)

Anecdotal evidence and post hoc reasoning to the rescue! Let's read the grandparent post again very slowly:

it is not because of the sugar per-se than the stimulating environment that often surrounds times we eat sugar. Kids at b'day party get hyper because it is a b'day party- not because they ate cake.

Now let's compare to your post:

you have obviously never been around children the day after Halloween, Easter, or Valentines day

Are we starting to understand the point you've already tried to carelessly refute?

Re:Cornholio (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37899538)

Yeah, people do get "high" from sugar. However, if you consume substantial amounts of high-fructose corn syrup daily (cereal or basically anything too processed) your tolerance is higher. In that case you need to consume more to get effects.

If you are off sugar, and then do caffeine and sugar in the same package (Coca Cola anyone?) you'll be just screwed for a while. Try starting up ketosis, keeping it up for some time and then hitting a non-light coke.

Also, sugar in large quantities is habit-forming. When you've done sugar, and the effect wears off, you need to get it again. If you're consuming substantial amounts of sugar, such as eating candy daily, and then cut it cold, you get effects similar to depression and mood swings "downwards".

The reason why you are fed so much sugar stems from the industry i.e. some people make money poisoning you, so they want to keep on doing it. See also the tobacco industry.

Fun fact: if small babies get sugar they go bonkers; for them, sugar can be used as a mild pain relief.

Re:Cornholio (1)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 2 years ago | (#37899602)

People don't get more hyper-active after eating sugar- or if they do, it is not because of the sugar per-se than the stimulating environment that often surrounds times we eat sugar

Having personally seen adults who used to "sugar speed", and the startling effects on their body ... I pretty much have to call bullshit on that one.

I'm sure environment is also a factor, but I've pretty much seen it get ugly fast as someone who is very affected by sugar goes into warp-drive.

It's not a catch all explanation, but I'm pretty sure for some people raw sugar basically leads them to a phrenetic period, and then a complete crash. It's actually quite alarming to witness this.

We used to have an admin assistant who chowed down on a bunch of candy, got mildly insane for an hour or two, and then crashed and became an emotional wreck ... we were all glad when she recognized this and started to cut out sugar. Because even HR was trying to figure out how to let someone go/reprimand them for sugar induced psychotic behavior.

It was definitely NOT an overstimulating environment of a bunch of other excited kids.

Re:Cornholio (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37899698)

It could be a placebo effect on that one. Maybe she just wanted an excuse to go apeshit.

Re:Cornholio (1)

Oswald McWeany (2428506) | more than 2 years ago | (#37899884)

That may be the case for that, and other individuals- but I have read articles where they have run tests in various scenarios on this subject: giving one group a placebo- one group nothing- and a third group sugar and noting that no overall difference in activity levels.

There could have been a medical condition for the admin assistant- or it could have been an emotional thing- she was excited when eating the sugar- and got depressed when she no longer had it to look forwards to.

I'm not sure if it is purely an American social phenomenon linking sugar to hyperactivity- I've only ever heard Americans talking about "Sugar Highs"- certainly never heard the expression when growing up until moving to the US- and our bodies should handle our sugar levels... but there could also be a level of self-fullfilling prophecy here. If you expect to get a sugar high- you exhibit the symptoms of one; like experiments where people are served non-alcoholic beverages and told they have alcohol in them- they will show symptoms of having consumed alcohol.

Re:Cornholio (4, Funny)

oodaloop (1229816) | more than 2 years ago | (#37897800)

Dear Private Void,

Eating an MRE has more of the effect of putting a solid brick in your bowels than getting you "hopped" up. The only raw sugar I encountered eating all the hundreds of MREs I've reluctantly consumed in my 7+ years active duty Marine Corps was the sugar packets that came with the instant coffee packets. There's also a candy of some sort, my favorite being a bag of M&Ms stating they are proud sponsors of the 1984 Olympics (this was in 1996). Anything new, tasty, and FSM forbid, energizing would be welcome.

Re:Cornholio (2)

Muad'Dave (255648) | more than 2 years ago | (#37897972)

How about the "Beverage Base Powder"? That's 90+% sugar (Kool-aid (tm) by any other name, I'd bet).

Re:Cornholio (1)

s2jcpete (989386) | more than 2 years ago | (#37898064)

I had the EXACT same situation in 1996~97. I remember the 1984 Olympic M&M's, and they had turned white from the fat leeching out I guess. Yes, I ate them hehe

Re:Cornholio (5, Funny)

ByOhTek (1181381) | more than 2 years ago | (#37898436)

Did you eat them...?

(a) ...Out of curiosity
(b) ...Out of self defense (lest they eat you first)
(c) ...Because you wanted to

Re:Cornholio (4, Interesting)

PFactor (135319) | more than 2 years ago | (#37898144)

As a former Marine myself (8 years active duty), I can attest that Oodaloop is right on the money. We used to call them Meals Rarely Excreted.

As an aside, if you ever go to Korea (not Best Korea, the other one) the locals will trade you a bottle of Soju (rotgut liquor) for the main meal in your MRE.

Re:Cornholio (1)

Anarchduke (1551707) | more than 2 years ago | (#37898912)

or more realistically what better way to keep a chronically tired soldier alert so he doesn't get his ass shot off

Been in FSR for years... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37897698)

Gotta love the media.. ITS NEW!! LOL.. Its been around since 2009 for the First Strike Rations.

http://xbradtc.wordpress.com/2009/09/13/zapplesauce/

Not just a bunch of cooks... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37897710)

"'There is a lot of science that goes into this,' said David Accetta, a spokesman for the Natick Soldier Research, Development & Engineering Center, where every item put into an MRE is tested and tasted. 'And that’s what a lot of people don’t realize. It’s not just a bunch of cooks in the kitchen making up recipes.'”

No wonder they taste so bad. Remember to make friends at the mess.

Not really new (2)

whoda (569082) | more than 2 years ago | (#37897728)

My local store has caffeinated jerky, and has for awhile.

Re:Not really new (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37898010)

Is that Bill, the old coot who stands near the coffee pot and talks politics?

Re:Not really new (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37899072)

My son (9 y.o.) and I were in Alaska this past summer visiting relatives. While at Home Depot we ran across someone giving out free sample of jerky. I did what I thought was a reasonable job of parental due diligence to make sure it wasn't too awful, but somehow missed that it was caffeinated.

I'll never forget his telling me at 2:30 a.m., having not yet gone to sleep, that his toes and fingers were still "zipping"

Meh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37897778)

Big deal they have instant coffee in MRE's. I used to gather up all of these from the non coffee drinkers. When I needed a shot of energy from say a long forced march rip open the packet and down the hatch.

Re:Meh (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 2 years ago | (#37897920)

Big deal they have instant coffee in MRE's. I used to gather up all of these from the non coffee drinkers. When I needed a shot of energy from say a long forced march rip open the packet and down the hatch.

No wonder the Veteran's Administration has such problems. There is NOTHING so rancid, so hopeless, so depraved in this world as an instant coffee mainliner. Nothing at all.

Ketracel-white (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37897804)

Foolish... this is nothing compared to Ketracel-white to keep soldiers ready to di^Wsave the world :/

Re:Ketracel-white (1)

Jeng (926980) | more than 2 years ago | (#37898346)

This might not work as well as Ketracel-white, but it won't kill you if you quit taking it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modafinil [wikipedia.org]

And is currently being given to pilots and special ops.

Zapplesauce (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37897894)

It is delicious. I had some in Afghanistan last year. It tastes like regular applesauce, which is to say, delicious.

Caffeine is awesome (2)

Gazzonyx (982402) | more than 2 years ago | (#37897948)

Caffeine is an awesome drug. So long as your job doesn't ever consist of accurately firing a weapon or going long durations without peeing.

obligatory trek reference (1)

smoothnorman (1670542) | more than 2 years ago | (#37897954)

PICARD: But even when we wore costumes like that we'd already started to make rapid progress.

Q: Oh yeah? You want to review your rapid progress?

Q: Rapid progress, to where humans learned to control their military with drugs.

Sounds familiar... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37897982)

Two words: Nazis, meth.

That seems like a poor choice... (3, Interesting)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 2 years ago | (#37898024)

I'm surprised that they'd be using caffeine: 1. It's already dirt cheap and readily available in a wide variety of convenient forms. Coffee(with varying tradeoffs between goodness and portability), tea(ditto), water, pills, assorted energy-shot things, etc, etc. It's a readily water-soluble alkaloid stimulant. Not hard to work with.

Perhaps more importantly, caffeine is actually a mediocre alertness aid. In sufficient quantity it will prevent you from sleeping; but the jittery, dubiously-lucid, feeling that it provides isn't exactly "wakefulness". Not really a win for clear thinking or straight shooting. It seems like some exploration of Modafinil, or related drugs, if any, would be more productive.

That stuff isn't nearly as readily available in already common, light, nonperishable forms, and when it prevents you from sleeping you just don't feel sleepy. The effect is uncanny.

Re:That seems like a poor choice... (1)

spook brat (300775) | more than 2 years ago | (#37898964)

Some of us soldiers refuse to use the coffee or tea for religious reasons, so I'd welcome an alternative wakefulness aid in the MRE.

As far as caffeine goes, though, it's probably being used because it's trusted. I remember reading a while back that any new wakefulness drug needs to be comparable to a 600mg dose of caffeine in order to be acceptable. I couldn't find the reference on that, but I did find a military-published study [nap.edu] on effectiveness of caffeine, which seemed to endorse its continued use.

And while I agree with you that the acceptance process for new drugs should be sped up, I'm glad they're not using servicemen as guinea pigs in the process - it's bad enough that amphetamines are still used as "Go pills" routinely. On the other hand, Viagra went unusually quickly from off-schedule to prescription for ED, perhaps we just need to find the right leverage on the FDA admins =)

Re:That seems like a poor choice... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37899202)

USMC 2007 - present

The big advantage of caffeine is that most marines know its effects and are used to dealing with them. Mostly being used as an supplement to natural discipline to stay awake, there is still nothing better then getting some sleep but when that is not an option having the minor help and comfort of caffeine definitely makes long actions a little more bearable.

Stay awake during guard duty ??? (2)

Sentrion (964745) | more than 2 years ago | (#37898036)

OK, so instead of cold, tired, scared recruits with overpowered assault rifles standing guard in the dark of night we're going to have jittery, cold, tired, scared recruits with overpowered assault rifles standing guard in the dark of night. Lovely.

Re:Stay awake during guard duty ??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37898320)

Overpowered???

Have you ever shot a M16 or M4? It's barely good enough to kill a deer with!!

Re:Stay awake during guard duty ??? (1)

El Torico (732160) | more than 2 years ago | (#37898374)

Oh we've had those for a long time; the old C ration coffee was great stuff. I'd save enough packets to make a sauce out of them and drink it up. About 30 to 40 minutes later I'd actually be so wired I felt I was vibrating. Good times.

Wasted research (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37898286)

A military research facility outside Boston

And how many millions of dollars has this cost the taxpayer? Why didn't they just buy a bunch of already caffeinated products from Think Geek?

Have they taken care of the big problem? (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 2 years ago | (#37898302)

I've heard that the MRE acronym is jokingly explained as "Meal that Refuses to Exit." So, I hope they've taken care of that...

Not a bunch of cooks in the kitchen (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37898310)

Well that's obvious.... you ever taste an MRE?

mOLDy (1)

calderra (1034658) | more than 2 years ago | (#37898496)

Special forces MREs have had these items for years, I remember trying to buy some Zapplesauce online a while back to give it a try but couldn't find a worthwhile price. Also, I've eaten a number of modern MREs and some of the are very tasty. Most packs now contain candy or Tobasco or other incentives to get you calories down. I wouldn't want it every day, but for a field ration it's pretty good.

Re:mOLDy (1)

Gilmoure (18428) | more than 2 years ago | (#37898864)

First gen MRE's were ok (11 out of 12 anyways). I liked the Chicken Ala-King. And they had Tabasco in them back then. Still have a couple of the bottles somewhere.

I wonder what it tastes like after a few bites (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37898516)

It must taste like a plastelinized leather shoe sole with added caffeine's bitternes for the extra diminuitive swallowing gag reflex....
Red Bull & Salami?

Re:I wonder what it tastes like after a few bites (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37899154)

You bet, mboy! MRE are only for Solid-State-Snakes III. Jungle can be a hungry place, boy must eat plenty snake snacks to stay astray.

Eh (1)

RyoShin (610051) | more than 2 years ago | (#37898520)

As an active duty soldier, this doesn't really pump me up much. Most MREs include a packet of coffee or tea (which I think is caffeinated). True, those require some sort of water/container, but many MREs already have Ranger Bars, which are like those energy bars you can get at the grocery store (which work to varying degrees).

Now, when they get rid of the Vegetarian Omelet MRE, then there will be some cheering.

(Some MREs have other, ah, means of keeping you awake...)

Nothing new - Nazis and Meth (0)

JoeCommodore (567479) | more than 2 years ago | (#37898548)

IIRC Methamphetamine was used by Axis soldiers to keep energized for long periods such as combat...

How much have MREs improved? (4, Interesting)

SomeoneGotMyNick (200685) | more than 2 years ago | (#37898744)

I was in one of the first training platoons in the Army which received the "newfangled" MREs instead of C-Rations. Although they were colloquially called "Meals Ready to Excrete" by the "early adopters" of such a technology of cuisine, it felt like they traveled at Mach 2 through the digestive system until the last "quarter mile" of the intestinal tunnel. Then they seemingly sat there for days.

Much of the above activity was due to the famously known "Dehydrated Beef Patty" and "Dehydrated Pork Patty." No matter how much water you added to them, they went down like shredded corrugated cardboard, exhibiting the same gustatory and gastronomical effects.

Army food (1)

Windwraith (932426) | more than 2 years ago | (#37898892)

This was pretty informative.

The topic of food that is readily available, has shelf life, and is designed to give energy boosts -and don't taste like metal scraps. Nothing lowers morale like not eating well- is very interesting. I wonder if there are more articles giving more details on the process, pros and cons of proposed rations, and their energy values.

I hope it's not a military secret or something like that, though.

OK hot. Cold, not so much. (2)

Animats (122034) | more than 2 years ago | (#37899796)

MREs aren't all that bad if you can heat the entree. If not, they're not much fun.

Go for the chicken-based entrees. "Pasta with Vegetables in Tomato Sauce" (discontinued in 2006), not so good. There are 24 different MREs in each year, and each case contains a semi-random selection. They're reliable survival food. Everyone should have a case or two around, just in case.

The packaging is very tough. They can be dropped from an aircraft without a parachute, and at least 80% of the units should survive.

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