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337 comments

Another market... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37925594)

... for the $25 Raspberry pi.

Re:Another market... (2)

gbl08ma (1904378) | more than 2 years ago | (#37925928)

And epoxy the ethernet port on the Model B, and make sure nobody's bringing WLAN or 3G USB adapters into jail.

Re:Another market... (2)

somersault (912633) | more than 2 years ago | (#37926036)

Or, don't leave unsecured wifi running in your prison?

English, motherfarker...! (0)

Captain Centropyge (1245886) | more than 2 years ago | (#37925600)

Who says that...? "I'll have an Playstation 3, please!" Doesn't anyone take English classes anymore?

Re:English, motherfarker...! (5, Interesting)

Samantha Wright (1324923) | more than 2 years ago | (#37925662)

I have some fun but irrelevant news for you: "an" is older than "a"; the word is ultimately cognate with "one". If you go back far enough, it's the only indefinite article used. Wikipedia also talks about an hilarious process called 'juncture loss' [wikipedia.org] .

Re:English, motherfarker...! (0)

Godskitchen (1017786) | more than 2 years ago | (#37925840)

I don't have an pedant-alarm, but if I did it would be going off.

Re:English, motherfarker...! (-1, Offtopic)

Captain Centropyge (1245886) | more than 2 years ago | (#37925944)

Just because a word or phrase is old doesn't mean it's how people speak anymore. Hence why we don't speak "ye olde English". I don't go around saying, "Thine locks beist quite foul! And thy luck downtrodden." I say, "Your hair doesn't look so good. Bad luck at the Great Clips?" It's been decades since I took English classes, and we never used "an" in that way. The word "an" should be followed by vowel sounds, like, "That's an idiotic thing to say!" While "a" should be followed by consonants, like, "That's a ridiculous hat!" It's easier to say and understand. It just makes sense. That's why we have the two words that have the same function.

Re:English, motherfarker...! (2)

Kal Zekdor (826142) | more than 2 years ago | (#37926110)

"Therefore, prisoners cannot engage in gaming and will have to result to other kinds of violence."

Can you explain that one away? You may be technically correct in your arguments, but there is essentially zero chance that the author is well versed in the historic etymology of English. Even a broken clock et cetera, et cetera...

Re:English, motherfarker...! (3, Funny)

Baloroth (2370816) | more than 2 years ago | (#37926184)

What a noff-topic point.

Re:English, motherfarker...! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37925666)

result

Re:English, motherfarker...! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37926108)

You're complaining about an vs a, and not complaining about "result to"?

Re:English, motherfarker...! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37926178)

Maybe he couldn't get that far because of the "an" thing. Some people are like that.

Other people, me for instance, don't see that stuff because we mentally fill in what it is supposed to say.

It is possible (1)

Avoiderman (82105) | more than 2 years ago | (#37925614)

Old xbox360 - glue in ethernet port. People do still play these things entirely offline at home don't they?

Re:It is possible (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37925704)

Better than glue, take a screwdriver to the ethernet port. Pull the contacts on the port out and break them off. No chance of getting online then.

Re:It is possible (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37925786)

Or open it up, manually remove the ethernet port from the motherboard (desolder). I'll bet the thing still boots and works perfectly.

Re:It is possible (0)

Moryath (553296) | more than 2 years ago | (#37925912)

But that would make sense. And everyone knows that sense and logic are antithetical to courtrooms.

This is the same justice system where psychotic evanglical christian-types convince judges not to allow D&D books or other roleplaying books because it uses dice ("OMG GAMBLING"), because it's "Satanic", and because it "encourages gang behavior [volokh.com] ." To wit: "The Dungeon Master is tasked with giving directions to other players, which Muraski testified mimics the organization of a gang." - despite the fact that this is NOTHING LIKE D&D, the testimony of Dumbass Muraski was accepted as "expert testimony" in court.

And the same justice system where our dumbass, inept, clueless judges actually BUY those lines of argument.

Re:It is possible (1)

Dog-Cow (21281) | more than 2 years ago | (#37926046)

Wow, you're lost. The article you linked to was about a U.S. court. This article is about an Israeli court.

Re:It is possible (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37925886)

Obviously not the problem, but the Wifi would be.

Re:It is possible (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37926018)

Obviously not the problem, but the Wifi would be.

Hence the use of "old" when used in "old xbox360", which did not have the WiFis or Gbs

Re:It is possible (1)

Kal Zekdor (826142) | more than 2 years ago | (#37926188)

Obviously not the problem, but the Wifi would be.

  • A - Older Xbox 360s did not have built-in wifi, you needed to purchase an attachable wifi adapter.
  • B - Prisons have (unsecured) wifi?

Re:It is possible (1)

antifoidulus (807088) | more than 2 years ago | (#37926268)

Maybe not permanently, but it wouldn't be that hard for someone to visit the prison who has a smart phone with tethering or one of those pocket wi-fi dealies and create a wifi network temporarily so their compatriot can do whatever they need to do.

Re:It is possible (1)

Kal Zekdor (826142) | more than 2 years ago | (#37926340)

Maybe not permanently, but it wouldn't be that hard for someone to visit the prison who has a smart phone with tethering or one of those pocket wi-fi dealies and create a wifi network temporarily so their compatriot can do whatever they need to do.

Ummm.... yes it would. It's a prison.

Not that I really think prisoners should be given video games, internet connectivity or no.

Re:It is possible (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 2 years ago | (#37926206)

So open the joker up an desolder the antenna. I bet a business could make good money supplying modified for this sort of use Xboxes and updates via usb.

Glue might be chipped out. (1)

khasim (1285) | more than 2 years ago | (#37926176)

Why not start with a basic firewall on the prison's network?

They DO have a firewall, right? For the legitimate Internet traffic of the guards and the administrators, right? Right?

Or, just don't run an Ethernet connection to the cell. I mean, having an Ethernet cable would be an issue anyway! Why even provide a data jack for them to use?

Can they get a pc with no networking? (1)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | more than 2 years ago | (#37925676)

Can they get a pc with no networking?

Re:Can they get a pc with no networking? (2)

PhunkySchtuff (208108) | more than 2 years ago | (#37925832)

Yes, of course they can. They (prisons) get custom built machines. A mate of mine worked on a project to supply just these machines to prisons. Among the other special requirements was a case made entirely of clear acrylic so there would be nowhere to hide contraband.

The real question is (1)

LWATCDR (28044) | more than 2 years ago | (#37925680)

Is jonklinger stupid or has a really bad sense of humor...
"Therefore, prisoners cannot engage in gaming and will have to result to other kinds of violence."
That is just bad.....

Tv is used as a contol tool in prisons (1)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | more than 2 years ago | (#37925778)

And most of them pay for it with the high priced Commissary.

Re:The real question is (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37925824)

Prison rape!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!1!one!1 :D

Wii (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37925682)

He should get a Wii. Not only is the internet functionality not required, it's more or less useless when it is on.

Re:Wii (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37925702)

I think grown men forced to play Wii games in prison would be motivational enough to prevent re-offense.

Re:Wii (1)

Fluffeh (1273756) | more than 2 years ago | (#37925962)

What, the image of four hardened inmates, sporting tats, scars and bad facial hair all bobbing around playing Mario Cart holding little white steering wheels doesn't almost make you want to commit a crime just to join in the banter and merriment?

Brick it! (1)

Picardo85 (1408929) | more than 2 years ago | (#37925698)

You can always get it banned from PSN or Xbox-live too ... then that's that!

There is always a way (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37925700)

You can simply fry the console's wifi or get a banned console, et voila! no online gaming

Besides... WHY would they give videogames to prisoners?? it's a jail for FSM's sake, not disneyland! it's not suppossed to be funny or anything.

Re:There is always a way (5, Interesting)

SuricouRaven (1897204) | more than 2 years ago | (#37925758)

Because busy prisoners are peaceful prisoners. If they are gaming then they aren't planning riots, organising gangs or maintaining their drug-smuggling networks.

Re:There is always a way (3, Insightful)

mjr167 (2477430) | more than 2 years ago | (#37925864)

Then give them a useful task like building roads... Let them read a book or go to school. I don't have a PS3. Why should gang-banger joe in prison have better stuff than me?

Re:There is always a way (2)

Pieroxy (222434) | more than 2 years ago | (#37925982)

Then give them a useful task like building roads... Let them read a book or go to school. I don't have a PS3. Why should gang-banger joe in prison have better stuff than me?

I'm sure that you don't have a PS3 because you put no value in owning one. You put much higher value in reading books for example.

So by your standard, playing a PS3 is less valuable than reading a book, and so they would have *less* value than you, not more.

Re:There is always a way (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37925776)

Given that it is an Israeli prison, I doubt that he did the crime anyway.

Re:There is always a way (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37925822)

Spoken like a true anti-Semite fuck.

Re:There is always a way (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37925914)

Some people are more interested in rehabilitation than punishment.

Re:There is always a way (4, Interesting)

Ravon Rodriguez (1074038) | more than 2 years ago | (#37926186)

And how exactly will turning the prison system into an adult daycare promote rehabilitation? IMO, this is why the number of repeat offenders is so high. Give them high school and college courses, or let them otherwise learn a useful life skill; do anything but make prison an extended vacation for them.

Re:There is always a way (3, Interesting)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 2 years ago | (#37926238)

How do you plan to use that to fill up 100% of their time? Idle hands and all that jazz.

Harsher prisons only mean harsher people when they are finally let out.

Boo Friggin Hoo (2)

mr1911 (1942298) | more than 2 years ago | (#37925706)

If prisoners get to sit around playing games, the punishment of prison could easily be less than their punishment outside of prison?

Prisoners should be making big rocks into little rocks.

Re:Boo Friggin Hoo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37925760)

Entertainment helps keep them from rioting. That's why TVs are so important to prisons.

Re:Boo Friggin Hoo (1)

sycodon (149926) | more than 2 years ago | (#37925844)

So do Tasers, bean bag rounds and tear gas.

Re:Boo Friggin Hoo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37925936)

And which of those is cheaper and less likely to get people killed?

Re:Boo Friggin Hoo (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 2 years ago | (#37926272)

No those are used after the riots start. It is preferred to not have the riot to begin with.

Harsher prisons only lead to harsher ex-cons when they finally get out.

Re:Boo Friggin Hoo (2)

syousef (465911) | more than 2 years ago | (#37925842)

If prisoners get to sit around playing games, the punishment of prison could easily be less than their punishment outside of prison? Prisoners should be making big rocks into little rocks.

Yes I'm sure that will work well. Bore the prisoners to the point of breaking, and teach them nothing, then dump them back on the streets at the end of that time with no prospects of making money legitimately. Great move. I'm sure that will bring crime rates down. If a prisoner can read a book or play pool or basketball or watch tv lest they go insane and start beating other to a pupl, why not an Xbox once a week?

Re:Boo Friggin Hoo (1)

chuckinator (2409512) | more than 2 years ago | (#37925976)

As a taxpayer, I object to my tax dollars being used to fund luxury goods for convicts. Spend that money at the prison library. If they complain about being bored, tell them to go read a book.

Re:Boo Friggin Hoo (1)

imidan (559239) | more than 2 years ago | (#37926148)

In most cases, including this one, the prisoner is interested in using his own money to buy an Xbox, not tax dollars.

Re:Boo Friggin Hoo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37926380)

How the hell are prisoners getting access to money?! How much money are they given? Why do they get free money along with cable TV and video games? Why aren't they in...oh, I dunno.....A PRISON?!

Re:Boo Friggin Hoo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37926168)

But but..books..are...luxu... sigh...

Re:Boo Friggin Hoo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37926230)

Just because a library is less hi-tech than a playstation does not mean that it is cheaper.
Do you really want to pay more tax just to make sure that prisoners can't have luxury goods?

Re:Boo Friggin Hoo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37926028)

So I should fund an Xbox for prisoners yet I can't afford on at home? What the hell did prisoners do before xboxes and play stations

Re:Boo Friggin Hoo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37926136)

... dump them back on the streets at the end of that time with no prospects of making money legitimately. Great move. I'm sure that will bring crime rates down.

Slightly off topic, but that's sort of the point of the prison industrial complex these days. Criminals into perpetuity. Evil Mind + Opportunity = Crime. Crime + Lack of making a legitimate living = Criminals. Criminals + Police = Convicts. Convicts + Privately owned prisons = Money.

There is no interest in any kind of rehabilitation, or even repaying their debt to society. Except for repaying their debt into someone's pocket via government tax dollars funding the prison system.

Re:Boo Friggin Hoo (1)

Capt.DrumkenBum (1173011) | more than 2 years ago | (#37925904)

Prisoners should be making big rocks into little rocks.

I agree with you in all but one detail. Prisoners should be making something useful. Furniture, cars, whatever.

Re:Boo Friggin Hoo (1)

Sentrion (964745) | more than 2 years ago | (#37926242)

Don't we get enough competition from Chinese labor camps with high suicide rates (Google "I-pad factory"), do workers in the free world have to compete against indentured servitude within our own borders? I'm all for prison labor to gain a measure of self sufficiency, but if prisons were made into profitable factories then the powers that be would have too much incentive to put more (possibly innocent) citizens in prison and increase their sentences.

So if the purpose is to punish (2)

rsilvergun (571051) | more than 2 years ago | (#37925946)

why not increase the punishment, so as to act as a deterrent? We can keep it completely harmless. How about Waterboarding?

Re:Boo Friggin Hoo (1)

Lakitu (136170) | more than 2 years ago | (#37926162)

do you really think that every prisoner is 100% bankrupt?

do you really believe that being deprived of your liberty and forced to sit in a prison against your will is not a punishment?

Civilized (1)

jprupp (697660) | more than 2 years ago | (#37926298)

But we're supposed to be a civilized society that don't send people to prison for "punishment", but instead to avoid further harm to others.

Oh shit!, sorry, wrong planet!

Re:Boo Friggin Hoo (1)

Bazar (778572) | more than 2 years ago | (#37926320)

Its easy to say that when you're outside of the system looking in.

Fact of the matter is that a console, or the odd perk for that matter doesn't make them free men. And in return for such access to perks, we can demand and expect good behaviour or other such tokens in return.

A prison exists to :
protect the people outside from the people inside
create a deterrent to crime by creating a visible punishment
rehabilitate the criminals so they will be less likely/willing to commit future acts of crime.

If access to an entertainment device helps better rehabilitate the inmates, then its worth looking into. Creating a prison that's so badarse that only the strongest survive, isn't going to provide any useful social skills or conditioning... Unless you're trying to create sardaukar troops.

PS2? (1)

tmosley (996283) | more than 2 years ago | (#37925710)

Why not allow them the cheaper PS2s? I'm hoping this is on their own money, rather than being paid for by the Israeli and American taxpayer.

Re:PS2? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37925774)

there should never have been a chance this is getting paid for by american tax payers anyway.

Re:PS2? (1)

tmosley (996283) | more than 2 years ago | (#37926376)

US gives money to Israel, so any spending they do comes partially from the American taxpayer.

Re:PS2? (1)

Sentrion (964745) | more than 2 years ago | (#37926388)

OK, but how much military and economic aid does the US give to Israel, and other Semitic nations for that matter? If that aid stimulates their economy, enabling their citizens to pay taxes, taxes to build prisons, etc. - then you can trace this matter straight back to the US taxpayer. If there is a scheme in place where prisoners generate enough economic output to pay the full price for these gaming systems, then I do not object. What Israelis do to prisoners in their country is their business.

Re:PS2? (1)

MarkGriz (520778) | more than 2 years ago | (#37925968)

"Why not allow them the cheaper PS2s"

How about, because they are f*#king prisoners.

Not possible ??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37925714)

[rant]
The ps3 can definitely be disabled from having internet connectivity. Strip out the wifi card, and short the RJ45 port.
Thada you have a PS3 that doesn't connect to the internet. You would still be able to play games.
[/rant]

But about the actual article PS3 in prison ?!?!? wtf...
Some people don't even have enough money to get it in their homes.

Re:Not possible ??? (1)

Fluffeh (1273756) | more than 2 years ago | (#37926006)

Some people don't even have enough money to get it in their homes.

You know, I would be quite happy if every prisoner had a playstation or xbox while they were doing time. Even if one in a hundred got really into gaming, and when they got out kept playing rather than going back to crime, it would certainly be worth the investment. It's probably a bit too optimistic, but that's the way I roll these days.

Re:Not possible ??? (1)

xstonedogx (814876) | more than 2 years ago | (#37926294)

So instead of stealing a PS3 for heroin money they steal it for their own use? I guess that's better. :)

No speaka da English! (2)

syousef (465911) | more than 2 years ago | (#37925742)

Therefore, prisoners cannot engage in gaming and will have to result to other kinds of violence.

It would be nice if the slashdot editors would resort to other kinds of editing.

Summary implies falsehood. (2, Insightful)

quietwalker (969769) | more than 2 years ago | (#37925754)

The old adage of 'they need to get it out of their system' - this is a falsehood: prisoners do not have to "result to other kinds of violence" in the absence of a substitute. If you are prone to violent acts, with all other variables being equal, you'll commit violent acts even after having already committed violent acts. Even with a violence simulator, you're still going to perform the other violence outside it that you were supposed to be suppressing.

Mike Tyson was a good example; all day long he's sparring with partners, hitting punching bags, shadowboxing. Then he beats and rapes a woman, and later looses his temper and bites an opponent's ear. Despite having 'worked it out of his system' hundreds of times more than a normal person, he's still violent.

People don't have violence meters that you can fill up. Stop perpetuating this invalid belief like it was common sense.

Re:Summary implies falsehood. (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37926048)

1. Sitting on your couch pressing a button to show a boxing glove punch is very different from getting up and beating the shit out of a bean bag or sparing with another human.

2. Mike Tyson is not representative of even 10 other human beings.

The problem is WiFi (2)

Fallen Kell (165468) | more than 2 years ago | (#37925756)

The court has an issue with the fact that they have WiFi built into them. I don't know why they can't simply let him disable the WiFi since it should be pretty easy to do so (on the original PS3 60GB "Fat" models, you can remove the wifi/bluetooth board/card and that would disable it. The only downside is that you need to connect your controllers via USB cable as they used the bluetooth connection for their signals).

Re:The problem is WiFi (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37925922)

Or just give him one of the older 360's that has no built in wifi.

Re:The problem is WiFi (1)

vuo (156163) | more than 2 years ago | (#37926124)

The court was wise in here. It's never OK to underestimate the ingenuity of the inmates. At the now-closed Katajanokka prison in Helsinki, inmates made a tattoo machine out of a vibration motor extracted from a PS2 DualShock controller. In this case, a USB wireless modem is small enough for "internal mail", and any components broken by the guards can be potentially replaced. And whenever you ask "what's the harm", the problem is similar to Pablo Escobar's case. He was officially in jail but in practice in house arrest, and could meet criminal associates and order hits at will. An Internet connection would be a virtual license to continue criminal activities.

Only Czar's Russia got it right: first you were deported to a jail in Siberia, and then all correspondence is disallowed - you're prevented even from reading newspapers. And if you want to step up from this, which would be appropriate for drug lords and the like, the method is called Nacht und Nebel [wikipedia.org] .

If I were a prisoner... (1)

The MAZZTer (911996) | more than 2 years ago | (#37925762)

I would settle for harmed functionality over none.

Am I the only one? (1)

Servaas (1050156) | more than 2 years ago | (#37925790)

Who went "huh he requested an xbox in an Israeli prison..." somehow, being from the netherlands where even some of the worst offenders get max 8 years plus mental support, I was surprised he even got the chance to request it. So much for being jaded.

Re:Am I the only one? (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 2 years ago | (#37925896)

Who went "huh he requested an xbox in an Israeli prison..." somehow, being from the netherlands where even some of the worst offenders get max 8 years plus mental support, I was surprised he even got the chance to request it. So much for being jaded.

Different countries, different rules.

I'm still perplexed how Israel continues to paint Palestinians as the obstruction to peace, while countering recognition from UNESCO with more building on occupied land. (While Isreal was effectively carved from the heart of Palestine and is recognised and a member of the UN.) Bloody weird country, if you ask me.

Huh? (1)

ZorinLynx (31751) | more than 2 years ago | (#37925836)

I doubt there's an open Wifi network in the prison... So why does the presence of a Wifi chipset or ethernet port even matter? There's nothing to connect it to.

Re:Huh? (1)

jdkramar (803337) | more than 2 years ago | (#37925950)

Someone outside the prison is going to use a directional antenna and point it at whatever location they keep the console at. And then the prisoner can talk to other people, albeit via typing with the controller.

Re:Huh? (1)

king neckbeard (1801738) | more than 2 years ago | (#37926040)

chain the console down somewhere a cantenna couldn't reach

Re:Huh? (1)

gbl08ma (1904378) | more than 2 years ago | (#37926050)

"an open Wifi network"?
Why does it need to be open?
Even if they don't have the knowledge to develop their own wifi password discovering software, from scratch, without development software (except perhaps MS Office VBA), in a non-networked computer, prisoners get a lot of time to do manual brute force attacks. On WEP networks (who should use that, anyway), it's easy, since the number and type of characters is already known. On WPA, well... it would take ages, something most prisoners have plenty of.

Re:Huh? (1)

wisnoskij (1206448) | more than 2 years ago | (#37926360)

Because they do not want people from outside of the prison setting up a wifi network to exchange information.

Don't get it (1)

microbee (682094) | more than 2 years ago | (#37925890)

If they don't want this to be online, just don't hook it up to the network. It can still play games. What's the problem?

Or, give him a jailbroken console (no pun intended) that has been banned. Heck, I can sell mine for a good price!

Whiskey-Tango-Foxtrot (1)

PortHaven (242123) | more than 2 years ago | (#37925998)

Everyone arguing about whether the ethernet port can be removed from an Xbox 360 or not.

The real question is why even consider giving an Xbox 360 to a prisoner.

!@#$% NO!!!!!

I have barely had time to even touch my Xbox 360 in the past year. I'm too busy working and commuting to work so I can keep my mortgage paid, heat running and food on the table for my family.

I don't see anyone out there leaping up to provide me with an Xbox 360 or PS3. I haven't had cable TV for the past 5 years. Can't afford it. Frankly, I'm tired of prisoners having it easier than law abiding citizens. I'm tired of prisoners receiving free cable, Xboxes, college degrees.

I'm tired of armed robbers being sentenced to 10 years and released in 9 months only to rob and shoot an innocent within days of release.

So sorry if I'm not very sympathetic. But you know, we outsource so much. Why not outsource our violent criminals to China. Oh human rights, work camps, whoop-de-doo. You should have thought about that before you robbed some poor sap on the stream and put a knife into him.

***********

People in America blame a lot of things for our high crime, guns, drugs, you name it. But I think it's the fact that our criminal system is so freakishly gentle to violent habitual lifestyle criminals.

Ironically, Joe-avg guy who's registration lapses or turn signal light went out finds himself fined and treated like a criminal. Go figure...

Ranting, yes, I know. But we're talking about toys for criminals. I want to see every friggin able bodied criminal have to work 8 hours a day, just like the rest of us. And if you don't, you don't eat. Plain and simple.

Re:Whiskey-Tango-Foxtrot (1)

PortHaven (242123) | more than 2 years ago | (#37926120)

And yes, I know this did not happen in America. It happened in Israel. But it happens in America all the time too.

Sheriff removes cable TV from the prisons and the court system orders him to put it back.

$280,000 on cable bill for about 20 prisons.
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=20081204_12_0_OKLAHO673257 [tulsaworld.com]

U.K how much on toys for prisoners? Why not spend that money on children instead?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1040932/Pampered-prisoners-supplied-221-726-PlayStations.html [dailymail.co.uk]

they don't get free cable (1)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | more than 2 years ago | (#37926144)

In some prisons they have to pay for it and or work for right to have a TV. Prisoners have to buy the TV as well.

Other prisons pay for it with the money made at the prison commissary.

Other prisons have the guards living with them.

NO Xbox or other stuff in most cells prison can buy stuff like decks of cards.

for tv Prisons are billed like hotels pay per room / drop.

Re:Whiskey-Tango-Foxtrot (1)

Hatta (162192) | more than 2 years ago | (#37926146)

Nobody's suggesting that this prisoner be given an Xbox. The request was that he be allowed to purchase an Xbox. That's a bit less controversial. If we allow them books, why not other media as well?

If America's prison system is so soft that it encourages crime, then Scandanavia should be swarming with murderers. Finland has open prisons and a very low recidivism rate. On the other hand, the US has one of the toughest prison systems in the developed world, and we still have the highest crime rates. Your hypothesis does not fit the data.

Re:Whiskey-Tango-Foxtrot (1)

Lakitu (136170) | more than 2 years ago | (#37926358)

No wonder the tea party is so popular, when people like you are ready to foam at the mouth about the government buying a prisoner a PS3 without even spending a second to think about it.

Do you really think every prisoner is 100% broke? The guy wanted to buy a PS3. Prisoners have money. Some prisoners can even work in-house for pennies on the dollar, not only getting paid pennies on the dollar, but being forced to spend a large fraction of the money they earned towards court fines, incarceration fees, restitution, previous loans, child support, etc.

Prisoners are already deprived of their individual liberty, being forced to live imprisoned against their will. Allowing the guy to spend money on entertainment, such as a PS3, so that he has less motivation to start fights, do drugs, or practice criminal networking is a good thing for anyone who is not and does not ever plan to be in a prison.

Think before you speak, dumbfuck. You could have spent 2 seconds thinking about what being a prisoner would actually be like instead of flipping on the angry-mob switch and blaming other people for your own problems. Maybe you should have re-upped your registration on time.

Another punishment (1)

ripdajacker (1167101) | more than 2 years ago | (#37926004)

Prisoners should learn to debug code, and take on some of the real issues in this world.

Give them a Nintendo 64. (1)

Kenja (541830) | more than 2 years ago | (#37926008)

and a copy of Superman 64.

Re:Give them a Nintendo 64. (1)

Itesh (1901146) | more than 2 years ago | (#37926326)

That's still too nice; a 2600 with a copy of E.T. (I'm sure that one of the thousands in the landfill where they are buried will still work).

We're overlooking the obvious here: (1)

pecosdave (536896) | more than 2 years ago | (#37926044)

How may prison cells have Ethernet jacks in them?

Even without Ethernet jacks would there actually be anything to connect to WiFi with? I'm pretty sure you could permanently disable WiFi without killing the system, mostly by attacking it from the antenna angle, maybe even the radio (I really don't know these things on the board level).

Re:We're overlooking the obvious here: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37926210)

The Xbox360, PS3 and Wii might use the same antennas (they are after all 2.4Ghz) for the wireless controllers and the wireless networking. Only the Xbox360 can directly use cabled controllers, but the console itself is the easiest to remove the wireless board from as it's just plugged into an "internal USB port"

The PS3 however charges the controller via USB, but still communicates via 2.4Ghz, so clipping the antennas would probably kill it. The Wii is similar, in that it physically has separate boards on the motherboard, but clipping the antenna might render it useless.

Re:We're overlooking the obvious here: (1)

pecosdave (536896) | more than 2 years ago | (#37926264)

Good points. The PS3 if I'm not mistaken can use PS2 controls with USB adapters, this could be the work-around they're looking for.

The only modern home system I have is a Wii, and I could imagine it would be useless without the Wii-Remotes, even if you do try to use GameCube control compatible games.

What now? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37926078)

You can definitely nerf a ps3, wii or xbox360, but the principle problem that I think the prison is trying to solve is preventing communications. For the Xbox360, acquire the non-S version, get some pliers and rip out the ethernet port's pins. Or superglue something into the port so it's physically impossible to use. The xbox 360 S would need to be opened to remove the Wifi card, but the same can be done. Any updates to the console have to be on disk/usb.

The PS3 can be nerfed in the same way, find a pre-WiFi model, superglue the port or pull the ethernet port's pins out.

The Wii doesn't come with an ethernet port, so it's just a matter of preventing WiFi. This is probably more difficult to do because of the wireless controllers probably use the same antennas. In theory you could remove the wireless networking board, but this might functionally break it.

Really the solution to breaking WiFi in these models is to just overpower the wireless network so that it's completely useless, setup a network outside the network on all channels at maximum power, or just jam the entire spectrum. Of course this costs money. better to just modify an Xbox and tell them tough noogies, no online for you.

Whew! (1)

argStyopa (232550) | more than 2 years ago | (#37926118)

At least prisoners are otherwise able to get game consoles. Otherwise prison would be downright inhumane....almost like PUNISHMENT.

Shouldn't have been crimes in the first place (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 2 years ago | (#37926200)

How many are being punished for things that shouldn't have been crimes in the first place?

Re:Whew! (1)

Lakitu (136170) | more than 2 years ago | (#37926396)

do you really think being deprived of your personal liberty is not a punishment?

Prison should be punishment (0)

Nidi62 (1525137) | more than 2 years ago | (#37926190)

Why the hell is it now considered "cruel and unusual punishment" if an inmate doesn't have access to a TV, or video games. 3 hot meals a day, access to healthcare, even jobs. This reminds me of the case in the US where a death row inmate appealed for a stay of execution because he said he had gained so much weight that the sedatives in the lethal injection mix would not work. He had gained anywhere from 40 to 80 pounds. The fact that ANY prisoner could gain weight while in prison is ridiculous. Prison has ceased being about punishment. Now it is nothing more than removal. And people wonder why the recidivism rate is so high. A culture where a prison sentence is seen as enhancing one's status, plus conditions in prisons that, in many cases, are just as good, if not better than the conditions they would be facing outside of prison. Prison needs to return to its original purpose. There shouldn't be anything that could be considered "easy time". People need to be afraid to go to prison.
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