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315 comments

Battery problem? (0)

WhiteArt (2500054) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939018)

I don't think there are any issues. iPhone is designed to be used. I use mine so much during the day that I have to recharge it anyway while I'm sleeping. And it's great. I understand why owners of other phones don't really use them, but I love playing while on the move, and listen to music. When it's time for me to unwind, it's time for my iPhone to unwind too, and I put it recharging right next to me on bed.

Re:Battery problem? (3, Insightful)

jjetson (2041488) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939058)

Other users and Apple disagree with you.

Re:Battery problem? (2)

wsxyz (543068) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939120)

Some people have had problems. Others have not.

Re:Battery problem? (0)

jjetson (2041488) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939354)

I'm sorry is there an echo in here?

Re:Battery problem? (1, Funny)

Chris Mattern (191822) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939556)

People who have kept the phone plugged in at all times have never reported the problem at all!

Re:Battery problem? (3, Funny)

AngryDeuce (2205124) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939722)

There you go, proof that everyone else is just using wrong!

Re:Battery problem? (1)

CharlyFoxtrot (1607527) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939160)

Other users and Apple disagree with you.

A small number of users. Haven't had problems myself but it's an x.0 release, so I'm not surprised some people have run into bugs.

"A small number of customers have reported lower-than-expected battery life on iOS 5 devices," Apple spokeswoman Natalie Harrison said in a statement to All Things Digital. "We have found a few bugs that are affecting battery life, and we will release a software update to address those in a few weeks."

Re:Battery problem? (1)

jjetson (2041488) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939234)

a) "A small number of users" is Other users no? Pretty pointless comment. b) Apple says "A small number of customers" and they're completely unbiased here so I should take their word.

Re:Battery problem? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37939490)

As if you've proven yourself to be a bastion of fair play and honesty. How do we know that you didn't really rape and murder that young girl in 1996? What are you hiding? Why won't you come clean?

Re:Battery problem? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37939108)

it's time for my iPhone to unwind too, and I put it recharging right next to me on bed.

Gotta be a troll. I can believe there are people who sleep with their iPhones but I can't believe there are ones who admit it in public.

Re:Battery problem? (1)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939330)

It has my alarm clock, so it's right next to the bed, but not in the bed.

Re:Battery problem? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37939380)

You didn't use the vibrator app yet, honey?

Re:Battery problem? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37939138)

That must've been some great apple flavored Kool-Aid you drank.

Re:Battery problem? (0)

shadowsurfr1 (746027) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939558)

Nothing wrong with enjoying using a mobile device. If you have android, it's ok, we understand.

Re:Battery problem? (2)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939214)

I don't think there are any issues. iPhone is designed to be used. I use mine so much during the day that I have to recharge it anyway while I'm sleeping. And it's great. I understand why owners of other phones don't really use them, but I love playing while on the move, and listen to music. When it's time for me to unwind, it's time for my iPhone to unwind too, and I put it recharging right next to me on bed.

Really? Apple's saying they've found software issues causing a problem and are beta testing a fix right now. Sure you wanna argue with that?

  And although I'm happy with the 4S, and it's not dying on me before I get home from work, it's most certainly worse than the iPhone 4 I had. I can't wait for the update.

Re:Battery problem? (3, Informative)

PopeRatzo (965947) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939350)

When it's time for me to unwind, it's time for my iPhone to unwind too

Jesus wept.

Re:Battery problem? (1)

c0mpliant (1516433) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939360)

I honestly don't know if you're just trolling or if you're an Apple fanboy...

I don't think there are any issues. iPhone is designed to be used

Indeed you are right, but the issue is surrounding the length of time you can use it on a single charge.

I understand why owners of other phones don't really use them, but I love playing while on the move, and listen to music

What an arrogant statement that is. I have a Galaxy S2 and I can tell you that I play games while I'm travelling, listen to music practically all day and download music, videos, apps, etc. While I do all those things, I need to charge it once a day, but a friend who wasted his money on an iPhone 4S when he already had an iPhone 4, his battery life doesn't get him past lunch time on some days.

Re:Battery problem? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37939476)

What an arrogant statement that is. I have a Galaxy S2 and I can tell you that I play games while I'm travelling, listen to music practically all day and download music, videos, apps, etc. While I do all those things, I need to charge it once a day

Please stop the lies. Everyone knows you can't do any of that stuff on a silly Samsung feature phone.

Re:Battery problem? (2)

yacc143 (975862) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939776)

Well, the Samsung S2 is that "feature phone" that managed to switch my 11 years daughter from "I want an iPhone" to "What, this phone is way cooler than an iPhone". And concerning battery life, not even my daughter manages to drain the S2, despite her "instinctive" understanding of battery saving, e.g. using a 3D animated background or watching youtube videos for hours.

So, as hard as it might seem, Apple just lost most if not all it's technological superiority (arguable that this has happened earlier as in some ways even a T-Mobile G1 has been superior to the Apple phone of the day), so I guess Apple fanboys should start to concentrate on it's ugly^H^H^H^Hbeautiful design.

Re:Battery problem? (2)

Deorus (811828) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939494)

It is obvious that your case is not problematic. My iPhone 4S wastes battery at a 1%/hour rate if left on standby, which I find quite good. The complaints, however, are coming from people whose iPhones are sometimes wasting as much as 15%/hour on standby. I would complain about that myself if that was the case here, but it isn't.

I can, however, imagine that figuring out the conditions in which this happens is no easy task, which to me justifies the delay.

Re:Battery problem? (2)

swb (14022) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939570)

Something happened. I had a 4 and upgraded to a 4S. I noticed that by lunch, my 4S was down to 66% battery when before the 4 had been in the 80s or low 90s still, depending on how much I had used it for voice/data and how good my signal was (buildings that limit the signal seem to increase battery drain).

I turned off a bunch of apps in notification center and disabled some of the system location services and that seemed to reduce the drain about 75% -- I'm still 5-10% lower than I would have been on the 4, but its much better. The notification center changes seemed to help the most, I'm not sure that the location bug was affecting me, or the improvement is just too small to notice.

I assume based on my experience that maybe apps were being allowed too much or too frequent execution time for notifications, maybe coupled with some kind of location services bug.

Re:Battery problem? (1)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939726)

there was some real issues though.

as in, stupid configs in use by default for things. like checking gps position all the time to adjust timezone(WHICH YOU CAN USE THE FRIGGIN NETWORK FOR GENIUSES!).

Speed (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37939034)

But Apple should have spoken up sooner, if only to acknowledge the issue.

It's been pretty quick by corporate standards and Apple don't exactly have a reputation for owning up to mistakes. I think this is a good response by them.

Re:Speed (2, Insightful)

tripleevenfall (1990004) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939168)

The antenna problems with the iPhone 4 were obfuscated and blamed on the user at first, too.

Re:Speed (0)

CharlyFoxtrot (1607527) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939368)

When the iPhone 4 hit 3 million sold the return rate was 1.7% [engadget.com] or about 51.000 phones. Clearly the antenna was horrible (!)

Re:Speed (0)

LucidBeast (601749) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939854)

Still is... down right piece of crap. What is your point?

Re:Speed (0)

rayd75 (258138) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939392)

The antenna problems with the iPhone 4 were obfuscated and blamed on the user at first, too.

And then they went away about the time the media stopped covering it... and without any hardware changes. Hmmm....

Re:Speed (2)

tripleevenfall (1990004) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939488)

After everyone had bought a case or after Apple had issued them one of zillions of free ones they were backed into giving away.

Antenna"gate" (1)

tgibbs (83782) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939822)

I found the antenna problem on the iPhone 4 quite hard to reproduce. I had to clutch it uncomfortably hard to see anything, and I saw about the same degree of attenuation if I clutched my 3gs tightly near the bottom. My suspicion is the iPhone 4 didn't actually have unusually bad attenuation, and that the true problem was that the visible antenna gave people an idea of exactly where to clutch it to kill the reception.

Re:Speed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37939178)

Apple has always been fine about fixing bugs, and it's likely this is a complicated one that took them some time to find. I mean look at how shitty Linux is at handling power management and that's the most amazingly perfect piece of software in the world only worked on by geniuses of the highest caliber.

Apple may not be so good at agreeing with nerds that they are the worst company in existence, natch, but expecting that admission is retarded.

Re:Speed (1)

yacc143 (975862) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939810)

Geniuses, perhaps. But not geniuses having hardware specs. Notice how perfect Androids (that DO have a Linux kernel, although the power saving infrastructure is Android-specific), where the hardware specs are known handle power management.

Re:Speed (1)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939186)

Well also lets be fair here. Reports like this really do take time to figure out before making a rash response.

1. Some of the users just got a new fancy phone and they drain the battery playing with all the features they wouldn't necessary do.
2. They may not be properly charging the phones... Perhaps there is a bad batch of charging cable that got shipped.
3. Are the people reporting the problem from a particular batch of phone. A bad manufacturing run.
4. Is the problem a software problem where they can just push out a patch.
5. Is it a hardware problem where they need to do a recall.

When you sell millions of units and you get hundreds or thousands of issues it takes a while to sort them out and do particular test.

Bad Omen (0)

binarylarry (1338699) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939064)

With Apple's reality distortion field totally disabled, this can no longer be turned into a feature for the end user.

My outlook does not look good.

Re:Bad Omen (2)

Frenzied Apathy (2473340) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939170)

My outlook does not look good.

I use Gmail, myself...

Re:Bad Omen (0)

cyborg_monkey (150790) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939262)

Lame at best. Back to sniffing glue, right?

Re:Bad Omen (1)

AftanGustur (7715) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939440)

With Apple's reality distortion field totally disabled, this can no longer be turned into a feature for the end user.

Nonsense, there was even a article about this earlier on /. [slashdot.org]

This simply means that Apple is two years *ahead* of the competition.. in terms of electronic consumption.

Re:Bad Omen (1)

impaledsunset (1337701) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939676)

Bullshit, I just installed cpuburn on my smartphone so that I can be ahead of Apple fanboys.

Re:Bad Omen (1)

Mister Transistor (259842) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939862)

"Siri, tell me if my battery is about to die!"

"Apple should have spoken up sooner..." (5, Insightful)

steevven1 (1045978) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939068)

Can we keep the blatant opinions out of the articles, and save them for the comments?

Re:"Apple should have spoken up sooner..." (4, Insightful)

tripleevenfall (1990004) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939184)

It's better than the passive-aggressive editorials (i.e., "It will be interesting to see if...") that are normally present in /. summaries.

Re:"Apple should have spoken up sooner..." (1)

CharlyFoxtrot (1607527) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939200)

Actually in this case it is in the article (it's one of those sensationalist pieces, the "finally" in the headline is a dead giveaway.)

Not if you want to get posted (1)

MikeMo (521697) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939314)

You have to say something inflammatory about someone or something.

Re:"Apple should have spoken up sooner..." (1)

ElmoGonzo (627753) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939356)

Are you suggesting that silence regarding a well-documented issue is the proper way for a vendor to behave?

Re:"Apple should have spoken up sooner..." (0)

CharlyFoxtrot (1607527) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939492)

"Well documented" in internet forums. Apple don't communicate unless there's some actual information to be communicated. In this case there's silence until they've documented the bug internally, developed a fix and are either in the final stages of testing or ready to push it out. All the rest is bullshit, nobody's really waiting for a "we're investigating the issue, please be patient" empty PR statement. Can that be annoying ? Sure, but it also means that when they finally do say something at least they're credible.

Re:"Apple should have spoken up sooner..." (0)

E IS mC(Square) (721736) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939910)

Aha.. fun of discussing with Appel fanbois..

> when they finally do say something at least they're credible.

Right on! Like how the antenna problem was clearly with those few dumb users who did not know how to hold their phones.

Re:"Apple should have spoken up sooner..." (1)

Lunix Nutcase (1092239) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939506)

If they are still investigating the matter? Sure. What is really gained by releasing a statement before you know what the issue is?

Re:"Apple should have spoken up sooner..." (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37939498)

No, because Apple should had spoken up sooner. So the point is valid and OK to have in the summary. But I guess your feelings got hurt, while else bitch about it on /.?

Re:"Apple should have spoken up sooner..." (1)

theJML (911853) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939788)

Why? I don't see a reason behind it. Sure it'd have been NICE if they spoke up sooner, but perhaps they didn't duplicate this glitch in the lab until now. I know personally I have no problem with the battery on my iPhone4S or iPad2 both running iOS5. You ever take your car to the dealer for a problem and have them not duplicate it, same deal.

Re:"Apple should have spoken up sooner..." (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37939884)

Like how "Siri put Apple few hundred lightyears ahead of Android"? Oh, I see - if it bashes others while clearly sucking up at Apple, it's okay.

Fucking asshole fanbois.

Why should they have said something sooner? (3, Interesting)

mikael_j (106439) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939070)

My experience from working for completely different companies is that the standard approach to product flaws is to ignore them completely or at least stay quiet until your people in-house have verified the problem and are halfway done with a fix or workaround (or the lawyers have concluded that the company isn't liable in which case it is somehow not a problem anyway no matter what the customers claim).

Seriously? (4, Informative)

alvinrod (889928) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939094)

From the summary:

"But Apple should have spoken up sooner, if only to acknowledge the issue."

What a load of shit. The device has been out for about three weeks at this point. How many other companies actually work this quickly to actually determine whether or not a problem exists, determine what the problem actually is, and then start working on a fix? I wish the companies that I regularly deal with were remotely as responsive to issues.

Re:Seriously? (4, Funny)

sunderland56 (621843) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939210)

Yeah, only been out three weeks. Good thing that Apple doesn't do any sort of beta testing - not only do those guys find problems, they also tend to lose the product they're testing in bars.

Re:Seriously? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37939690)

Yeah, only been out three weeks. Good thing that Apple doesn't do any sort of beta testing - not only do those guys find problems, they also tend to lose the product they're testing in bars.

They don't do beta testing... All of there testing is done internally within Apple. They don't even release the phone to ALL employees within Apple.

Re:Seriously? (3, Funny)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939802)

That guy was there to see if it could help the signal strength by adding a bar to it.

Re:Seriously? (2)

grub (11606) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939246)

Not to mention 5.0.1 beta is already out to developers which resolves the issues.

Re:Seriously? (1)

CharlyFoxtrot (1607527) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939724)

After two weeks ? Finally ! :-)

Re:Seriously? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37939408)

Google pulled its gmail app within hours and has been getting nothing but mockery for it. But of course this "lets be fair" mantra never applies to companies that are not Apple, does it.

Re:Seriously? (1)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939826)

Software on their own server vs hardware in the hands of millions of people.

Yeah, that's almost the same thing.

Re:Seriously? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37939852)

Thanks for proving my point. Google does it: bitch whine moan. Apple does it:it's hard sitting at the intersection of technology and human emotion!

Re:Seriously? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37939874)

How many companies release stuff that does not work because they have done no testing of the devices for example the last iPhone and the hold different advice?

Blackberry (1)

elzurawka (671029) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939104)

Had this been an issues with a new blackberry, you know they would be crucified. The media loves to let apple getaway with stuff like this all the time, but any mistakemade by RIM and it means the end of the company. If this is a software bug, why are we waiting weeks for a fix? Because apple knows they can do as they please, and these devices will still fly off the shelves faster then they can build them.

Re:Blackberry (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37939240)

Had this been an issues with a new blackberry, you know they would be crucified.

That's because: A) Everyone knowss Blackberries suck. B) RIM is from Canada, a rogue state controlled by terrorists

The media loves to let apple getaway with stuff like this all the time

Because Apple is awesome and it's not their fault that their product was sabotaged by infiltrators who hate the U.S.A.

If this is a software bug, why are we waiting weeks for a fix?

It takes at least a week to thoroughly interrogate the anti-American miscreants responsible for this problem. Having to fly in CIA specialists from Afghanistan for the job adds another week or two.

these devices will still fly off the shelves faster then they can build them.

Because owning an iPhone puts you among the world's elite, and who doesn't want to be elite?

Re:Blackberry (3, Interesting)

rayd75 (258138) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939336)

Had this been an issues with a new blackberry, you know they would be crucified. The media loves to let apple getaway with stuff like this all the time, but any mistakemade by RIM and it means the end of the company. If this is a software bug, why are we waiting weeks for a fix? Because apple knows they can do as they please, and these devices will still fly off the shelves faster then they can build them.

Because it's nothing more than a minor inconvenience for a small number of users? Great, your battery drains before the day's over. So what? Charge your phone more frequently for a couple of weeks while Apple looks into the issue. Come back and make your RIM comparison when half the iPhones in the world stop working for three days straight.

Re:Blackberry (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37939742)

Great, your battery drains before the day's over. So what? Charge your phone more frequently for a couple of weeks while Apple looks into the issue.

Have you RTFA? The battery drains completely in six hours. That's pretty freaking frequent.

Come back and make your RIM comparison when half the iPhones in the world stop working for three days straight.

I'll be glad to once iCloud goes down. Which it will, eventually. And it will be hilarious.

The other way around (1)

Quila (201335) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939430)

I generally find that Apple gets crucified over the smallest issue because a headline with "Apple" in it will get read.

This is why you had some Android phones literally falling apart being reported on a couple tech sites, but rare iPhone screen cracking was worthy of the Washington Post.

Re:The other way around (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37939790)

Because 50$ chinese crap is expected to have the same quality as 500$ phone touting Gorilla Glass, and vice versa, sure.

Re:Blackberry (0, Troll)

CharlyFoxtrot (1607527) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939858)

Seriously man it's been two weeks. There are Android updates you can't even get in Belgium [userbase.be] because the operators don't give a shit. Now that's problematic. Waiting a couple of weeks ? Not so much.

Finally... ? (4, Insightful)

nightfell (2480334) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939110)

Apple has been asking users for assistance in narrowing down this issue. There is no "finally". They generally don't talk about things that they don't have information on. If they had spoken up sooner, they would have simply been able to say nothing other than, "hey, people, don't buy our phone, wait for some indeterminate amount of time until we can solve an issue that may or may not even exist, and my only affect a small fraction of our customers".

Ahh... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37939150)

probably just holding it wrong

What's another $90... (3, Funny)

goldspider (445116) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939152)

...for a replacement battery?

Have they patented it yet? (1, Funny)

Oswald McWeany (2428506) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939182)

Have they pattented having a fast-draining battery yet?

My old Nokia from the 90's used to drain the battery fast- perhaps they can retro-actively sue Nokia.

Phone Speed Limit? (1)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939192)

It's a fact of life that faster chips consume more power, and Apple may have taken a bite the battery can't chew. Faster didn't equate to better in this revision I think.

Re:Phone Speed Limit? (1)

nblender (741424) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939542)

my iphone has a significantly faster 'chip' than my old Nokia or SonyEricsson and yet it still has a better battery life... Maybe put away your overgeneralization spell for the day.

That's not a problem (4, Funny)

yacc143 (975862) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939216)

Just carry a second (or third) charged battery and switch it when the battery is drained.

Re:That's not a problem (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37939292)

What you did there. I see it... I LOL'd.

See also: "You're holding it wrong"

Re:That's not a problem (1)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939308)

Yep, I have a cheap dock-connector battery that I bought for my 3GS that I'm hoping will still work for my 4S.

Re:That's not a problem (1)

Hotweed Music (2017854) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939312)

I sense a problem.

Re:That's not a problem (1)

wsxyz (543068) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939322)

No, just carry an extra iPhone or two, and switch when the battery is drained.

Re:That's not a problem (4, Funny)

NiteShaed (315799) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939520)

Take a piece of double-sided tape, apply it to the back of your iPhone. Firmly press a second iPhone against the first, back to back, and offset so as not to cover the cameras. I got the idea from watching war movies where they'd tape two ammo clips together and flip them when the first goes empty, and it works great for them, so I figure it'll work fine here too. Added benefit that if one iPhone is cool, a double iPhone should be double cool...

Re:That's not a problem (3, Insightful)

swb (14022) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939738)

That works with removable ammunition magazines, but it does not work with ammunition clips.

Ammunition clips or "stripper clips" clip together cartridges in a uniform orientation so that magazines, either removable box-type or fixed magazines (eg, M1 Garand, or the Soviet SKS) can be loaded quickly.

Taping two stripper clips together won't work, since you won't be able to insert them into a magazine.

They now also make a host of gizmos for pairing magazines that's more effective than the duct tape method made popular by various revolutionary groups.

Re:That's not a problem (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37939518)

Good luck with those pentalobe screws.

And of course, after performing this stunt on an airplane, you will not be treated like the rest of the passengers.

Re:That's not a problem (1)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939880)

And of course, after performing this stunt on an airplane, you will not be treated like the rest of the passengers.

Finally, some service around here! Coffee, please!

Re:That's not a problem (1)

Rob Kaper (5960) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939616)

Well done. Pointing out that inability of the iPhone is funny, flamebait and interesting all at once.

Re:That's not a problem (1)

theVarangian (1948970) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939890)

Just carry a second (or third) charged battery and switch it when the battery is drained.

I've got an auxiliary battery, just go to amazon.com and enter the search term "iPhone 4 battery pack" the entry level price seems to be at around 10 bucks.

The all seeing eye requires lots of power (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37939306)

How else is the device supposed to record your every move?

what problem? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37939324)

What problem? You're probably just using the phone wrong.

I can hear it now... (1)

slackbheep (1420367) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939366)

" With Apples new iCloud it's never been easier to carry a backup iPhone! "
Has iOS5 really been that much of a battery killer? I didn't notice a different on my ipad, though I'd only been using it a few days prior to the update.

Re:I can hear it now... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37939466)

I've heard it's related to location services, so maybe it's GPS or something that wouldn't affect your iPad

Re:I can hear it now... (1)

davidbrit2 (775091) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939552)

My iPhone 4 has been pretty much the same since installing iOS 5, and in fact I'm not having the problem I had with iOS 4 where Usage time = Standby time, and the battery gets hammered.

However, I noticed the Location Services arrow turning on a bit more than I would expect it to, so I disabled some of the system services (Settings, Location Services, scroll down to System Services at the bottom). In particular, I disabled Location-Based iAds, Setting Time Zone, and Traffic. I've also got automatic diagnostic/usage data reporting disabled. Perhaps those have something to do with it.

Re:I can hear it now... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37939744)

I "upgraded" from an iPod4 to my first iPhone, a 4s. I was having all sorts of problems with battery life. The first culprit was that Bluetooth was in some funny state. I had to turn it off, reboot, then turn it back on. That helped a lot.

The second battery vampire I found was the WiFi sync, even though it doesn't seem to work automatically it was hanging and causing lots of drain. I disabled that and now my battery life is very good.

I'm hoping they fix WiFi sync, that's one of the big features I wanted in OS5.

Doing it wrong (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37939418)

You are charging it wrong.

Did they learn from last time? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37939444)

At least Apple went directly for the "we can fix it in software" rather than trying the "you're holding it wrong" ploy...

First the deahtgrip (1)

ZeroSerenity (923363) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939540)

Now this? Is apple even testing these before they go?

Re:First the deahtgrip (1, Funny)

wsxyz (543068) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939652)

No, they aren't. In fact, the final hardware for the 4S was the first engineering prototype, and the iOS5 golden master was the first version that even compiled.
Apple can get away with this because they know that they'll sell as many iPhones as they can make, no matter how crappy they are.

just wait till the fanboys find out (1)

nimbius (983462) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939574)

it has problems with time-travel and mind-reading.

Liability (1)

Frightened_Turtle (592418) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939634)

If there is one thing I have learned, nowadays no company will admit that their product has a problem. It opens them up to liability. Due to the litigation-happy society we live in, companies now find it wiser and safer to deny their product has an issue.

Personally, I would much rather a company come out and say, "Yeah, there is an issue we've uncovered and we are working on the fix." I can live with that. If it is an issue they can't fix in a timely manner, of course I would want to return the product and get my money back until they have it fixed. But, to have the company duck the issue when it is obvious? I find that insulting. I would rather bring my hard-earned money to a company that is being fair and honest with me than one that is being evasive and lying.

As much as I am satisfied with the Apple products I own, I usually warn people to never buy the latest and greatest from Apple right off the bat. Often, there is such a glitch in the item. It is best to wait a few months so the bugs can be worked out and then buy the new toy. (Admittedly, I don't always follow this advice, myself.)

Seriously? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37939710)

Holy fuck people. Smarten up.

If you're in charge of a big company & reports start coming in that your new product might have a bug in it, you don't immediately run to Twitter / Facebook / Slashdot and scream at the top of your lungs "THERE'S A PROBLEM IN THE IPHONE 4S! RUN! RUNNNNNNNNNN!"

You collect data, analyze it, and then make an announcement.

I'm sure there are more than a few sysadmins that read Slashdot. And sysadmins: how many times is the user right, versus how many times does the user fuck something up / not understand the situation & start placing blame where it doesn't belong.

Yeah. Exactly. So the smart thing to do when something crops up like this is to investigate, analyze and then act. That's what Apple did, and they should be commended for it.

Yes. I'm a pissed off grumpy sysadmin. No, I don't love Apple. But I do appreciate common fucking sense - which many of you seem to lack. You're just out to burn/bitch/complain about Apple. Sad.

And here I thought (1)

Hydian (904114) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939714)

I was holding it wrong

Acknowledging the issue (4, Insightful)

tgibbs (83782) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939734)

When should Apple acknowledge the issue? When some users are saying they have a problem, when others are saying they don't? (Many people, myself included, have not encountered this issue). Such problems can be very difficult to track down. How does Apple know if it is a real issue? Maybe the people who are complaining have unrealistic expectations, or are using their phones in a different way. After all, the iPhone 4s has new features, which might cause some people to place a heavier demand on the battery. How many people are encountering the problem? is it 10%? 1%? 0.001% (which would still be quite a few phones). Is it a manufacturing defect, or a software problem? Is there any point in acknowledging the issue if all that you are able to honestly say is something noncommittal like, "Well, we've had some reports, but we haven't yet been able to reproduce them, and we really have no idea at all what's going on or how many people are having this problem, but we're investigating the issue"? Or is it better to wait until there is something substantive to say?

I actually had the same problem with my first-generation iPhone. I didn't even bother reporting it to Apple until I had it figured out, because a bug report that just says "Sometimes my battery runs down really fast" is virtually useless. I eventually figured out that the battery died if I left the Clock application in the foreground while the phone was asleep. I filed a bug report with Apple, and after the next system update, I got an email message that said, "We believe that the bug that you reported has been fixed. Can you verify?"

Using it wrong (1)

wideBlueSkies (618979) | more than 2 years ago | (#37939892)

I'm waiting for some guy from Apple to tell people that they are holding the phone wrong or something.....

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