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NASA Plans App Store For Scientists

samzenpus posted more than 2 years ago | from the top-rated-science-section dept.

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gManZboy writes "The space agency is widely known as a cloud computing success story in the government for its Nebula cloud computing platform. Now NASA will develop an app store for its scientists. The NASA CIO says it's about getting the science job done."

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Excellent post! (-1, Offtopic)

johnnews (2500122) | more than 2 years ago | (#37940302)

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Re:Excellent post! (1)

Synerg1y (2169962) | more than 2 years ago | (#37940390)

still waiting for that space shuttle...

Link inside the article (2)

Synerg1y (2169962) | more than 2 years ago | (#37940414)

Has some interesting information

http://www.informationweek.com/news/government/cloud-saas/231901731?itc=edit_in_body_cross [informationweek.com]

Turns out Nasa isn't the only one looking to go to cloud computing: main implication: all systems are penetrable and now all the data will be in one place rather than scattered across agencies. They'll prolly invent cyber m16s soon though to guard it and stuff, so it's ok right?

Re:Link inside the article (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 2 years ago | (#37940500)

Has some interesting information

http://www.informationweek.com/news/government/cloud-saas/231901731?itc=edit_in_body_cross [informationweek.com]

Turns out Nasa isn't the only one looking to go to cloud computing: main implication: all systems are penetrable and now all the data will be in one place rather than scattered across agencies. They'll prolly invent cyber m16s soon though to guard it and stuff, so it's ok right?

How about some simple gatekeeping security? In my experience security fails when it becomes too complicated to administer properly or navigate by users - that's when you find all those little post it notes laying around and gaps a 10 year-old could exploit.

Re:Link inside the article (1)

justforgetme (1814588) | more than 2 years ago | (#37948720)

Turns out Nasa isn't the only one looking to go to cloud computing

good!

Cake will be served? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37940428)

The NASA CIO says it's about getting the science job done

Re:Cake will be served? (2)

squidflakes (905524) | more than 2 years ago | (#37940650)

Only for the people who are still alive.

App Store? NASA better prepare their lawyers (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37940538)

About to be sued by Apple in 5, 4, 3...

About to be sued by Apple? (2)

Moheeheeko (1682914) | more than 2 years ago | (#37940548)

There's an app for that.

Re:About to be sued by Apple? (1)

justforgetme (1814588) | more than 2 years ago | (#37948740)

iSuJu?

That's the name of my girlfriend!

Apple supports apps stores for organization (2)

perpenso (1613749) | more than 2 years ago | (#37940664)

About to be sued by Apple in 5, 4, 3...

Actually, Apple allows enterprise developers to offer internal app stores for their users. Given that the summary says "app store for its scientists" there may be no conflict here. NASA would only be prohibited from offering an iOS App Store to the public in general. Of course why would they bother with an app store for the public when they could simply have their free iOS apps appear on the Apple App Store at no cost to NASA?

Re:Apple supports apps stores for organization (2)

Fnord666 (889225) | more than 2 years ago | (#37940812)

Of course why would they bother with an app store for the public when they could simply have their free iOS apps appear on the Apple App Store at no cost to NASA?

Because what can and can't be made available then becomes subject to the whims of Apple?

Re:Apple supports apps stores for organization (1)

perpenso (1613749) | more than 2 years ago | (#37941110)

Of course why would they bother with an app store for the public when they could simply have their free iOS apps appear on the Apple App Store at no cost to NASA?

Because what can and can't be made available then becomes subject to the whims of Apple?

"Whims" is a very big mischaracterization.

Re:Apple supports apps stores for organization (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37941250)

The 10s of thousands of apps on the app store says it's not to hard to satisfy Apple's whims. Whims being disinformation about well defined policies.

And most of the policies would not impede NASA. The only things I can think of relate to licensing such as open source licenses.

Apple App Store and FOSS compatible (1)

perpenso (1613749) | more than 2 years ago | (#37942568)

The 10s of thousands of apps on the app store says it's not to hard to satisfy Apple's whims. Whims being disinformation about well defined policies. And most of the policies would not impede NASA. The only things I can think of relate to licensing such as open source licenses.

I don't believe Apple has any problem with FOSS apps being on the App Store. The developers are free to provide users with their source code.

Re:Apple supports apps stores for organization (1)

jc79 (1683494) | more than 2 years ago | (#37946254)

This story has nothing to do with iOS apps or any Apple platform. It is about NASA's Nebula cloud services and making them easily available internally through a single "cloud storefront". The PR folk knew if they put the magic words "app store" in the story then it would get read. TFA also mentions the Android Market just two words after App Store, right there in the standfirst at the top of the page.

Re:Apple supports apps stores for organization (1)

perpenso (1613749) | more than 2 years ago | (#37946346)

This story has nothing to do with iOS apps or any Apple platform.

However the post I responded do did bring up Apple.

Re:Apple supports apps stores for organization (1)

jc79 (1683494) | more than 2 years ago | (#37957078)

Yup, sorry. Should have replied to them, not you.

1980 called, they have your desktop program ready (1)

MonkeySpaceCapsule (1314937) | more than 2 years ago | (#37940584)

From the article:
          "We are looking at how we can virtualize the desktop so you can gain access to your resources from any device, anyplace, anywhere," Gardner said.
So VNC, NXMachine, or X11 forwarding through a highly compressed pipe. It will be hard to beat that software as it's been improved by decades of work (and started when the pipes were even smaller). I'm guessing they would get more bang out of just finding out how to increase the bandwidth (such as twisting signals, etc.)

Scientic Linux (1)

bobaferret (513897) | more than 2 years ago | (#37940658)

Seems like a job for Scientific Linux. Admittedly it is put together by particle physicists as opposed to cosmologists but I'm sure they generally like to do a lot of the same things.

Re:Scientic Linux (2)

SteveFoerster (136027) | more than 2 years ago | (#37942758)

From the Scientific Linux main page [scientificlinux.org] :

SL is a Linux release put together by Fermilab, CERN, and various other labs and universities around the world. Its primary purpose is to reduce duplicated effort of the labs, and to have a common install base for the various experimenters.

The base SL distribution is basically Enterprise Linux, recompiled from source.

Our main goal for the base distribution is to have everything compatible with Enterprise, with only a few minor additions or changes. Examples of items that were added are Alpine, and OpenAFS.

Our secondary goal is to allow easy customization for a site, without disturbing the Scientific Linux base. The various labs are able to add their own modifications to their own site areas. By the magic of scripts, and the anaconda installer, each site is to be able to create their own distributions with minimal effort. Or, if a user wishes, they can simply install the base SL release.

Cloud Computing? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37940682)

I would have thought NOAA or at least NWS would be better known for cloud computing than NASA. heh heh heh

Re:Cloud Computing? (1)

ISoldat53 (977164) | more than 2 years ago | (#37942356)

NASA has looked at clouds from both sides now.

The first App! (1)

erroneus (253617) | more than 2 years ago | (#37940826)

NASA's first app in the store will be an imperial to metric conversion tool.

Re:The first App! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37941046)

NASA's first app in the store will be an imperial to metric conversion tool.

NO! It will be a metric to imperial conversion tool.

Re:The first App! (2)

robot256 (1635039) | more than 2 years ago | (#37941402)

NASA's first app in the store will be an imperial to metric conversion tool.

NO! It will be a metric to imperial conversion tool.

^^^ This. The scientists all work in metric, it is just the engineers that do half and half.

Placement fail (2)

Wolfling1 (1808594) | more than 2 years ago | (#37941208)

After the previous thread listed on the homepage, it is a courageous Slashdot that uses the term 'app store' for anything not owned by Apple.

Sad state of affairs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37941246)

Real scientists should not need an app store, just sayin'

Re:Sad state of affairs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37943240)

yeah... real scientists still write good old fortran 77 code... full of common blocks...

Good state of affairs (1)

dbIII (701233) | more than 2 years ago | (#37946156)

Actually with things like NASA's PBS (portable batch system) being used as nothing but a bait and switch by the company that was supposed to distribute it for free I'd say it is a very good thing NASA are now doing their own distribution now.
By the way, I know there is now an alternative called Torque for that example. I'm really just telling you why it was necessary for Torque to be developed in the first place. It wasn't just about being able to get hold of free software, it's was also about getting hold of software known to work in a given situation instead of an unknown closed source application produced by people that are being dishonest about what you can download in the first place.

Busted O-Rings? (1)

wideBlueSkies (618979) | more than 2 years ago | (#37941736)

There's an app for that.

NASA App Store (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37942028)

An App Store from NASA??? How many times do we get to pay these "Apps" ???

Fingers Crossed (2)

stms (1132653) | more than 2 years ago | (#37942292)

I hope they have a fart app.

Re:Fingers Crossed (1)

Nerdfest (867930) | more than 2 years ago | (#37942608)

"The Farticle Accelerator"

From launching shuttles to this? (1)

syousef (465911) | more than 2 years ago | (#37944566)

Now you're running an app store? For frack sake people, you've had apps available for download for a long time. Have you got money in the budget for this idiocy? Which mission did you cut to get the funds for this comedy routine?

Re:From launching shuttles to this? (1)

jc79 (1683494) | more than 2 years ago | (#37946288)

There's nothing like actually reading the friendly article is there?

NASA Plans Cloud Marketplace For Scientists
Cloud services suite to expand with platform as a service, data as a service, and a new cloud computing storefront likened to Apple's AppStore and Google's Android Market.

By J. Nicholas Hoover InformationWeek
November 03, 2011 02:55 PM

NASA, already among the government leaders in cloud computing, plans to offer a cloud storefront where scientists will be able to determine their computing needs and access cloud services from a central location.

So no, they're not running an app store.

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