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White House Responds to ET/UFO Petitions

samzenpus posted more than 2 years ago | from the petitions-are-out-there dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "The White House has responded to two more We the People petitions. These new inquiries ask the government to acknowledge formally that aliens have visited Earth. The response from Phil Larson of the White House Office of Science and Technology is: 'The U.S. government has no evidence that any life exists outside our planet, or that an extraterrestrial presence has contacted or engaged any member of the human race. In addition, there is no credible information to suggest that any evidence is being hidden from the public’s eye.'" I'm glad that's cleared up. Now our government can get back to important work like developing caffeinated jerky.

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yeah... (2)

dmacleod808 (729707) | more than 2 years ago | (#37973828)

I bet if the government was asked about any other super high security classified information, they would similarly deny it.

Re:yeah... (4, Insightful)

tysonedwards (969693) | more than 2 years ago | (#37973920)

The use of the phrase "no credible information" is going to drive the conspiracy theorists crazy for decades, 'cause aliens are incredible man! We want to see the incredible information!

Re:yeah... (4, Insightful)

rtb61 (674572) | more than 2 years ago | (#37975160)

More logically the phrase "no evidence" versus the more commonly expected "no knowledge". So perhaps no recovered alien vessels and no captured aliens versus no knowledge of unknown space vessels, presumably not operated by humans.

Of course one need only look at the reply for marijuana versus say this story http://stopthedrugwar.org/speakeasy/2008/jul/23/significance_us_govt_cannabinoid [stopthedrugwar.org] which leads you to http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6630507.html [patentstorm.us] . So the US Department of Health has a patent on what the US Government in turn denies is of any value.

Then of course who could forget wikileaks and embassy cables, basically the US government lying all over the place, again and again and again.

Re:yeah... (2)

scubamage (727538) | more than 2 years ago | (#37973978)

Yeah, was anyone expecting anything different on this one?

Re:yeah... (1)

Arlet (29997) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974088)

Seriously. Even if the government was withholding information, some silly on-line petition isn't going to chance anything.

Re:yeah... (3, Interesting)

MoonBuggy (611105) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974166)

Nope. What I'd like to see some more signatures on this one [whitehouse.gov] , actually - not that I expect any tangible results, but it'd be at least mildly entertaining to see how they respond to it.

Re:yeah... (2)

Soilworker (795251) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974018)

"Immediately disclose the government's knowledge of and communications with extraterrestrial beings"

What kind of moron write a petition implying he undoubtedly KNOW THAT THE US GOV. had communication with extraterrestrial beings, no one can take a moron like that seriously.

Re:yeah... (3, Funny)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974112)

Ah, you underestimate the true conspiracy theorist's(don't let yourself be fooled by the plants) capacity for discerning the sinister complexity of the labyrinthine wheels within wheels...

By craftily wording their inquiry as though it were merely a risible question about aliens, our petitioner has forced Them to reveal that there is "no credible evidence" to suggest that the US Government has communicated with extraterrestrial beings, such as the so-called 'astronauts' who participated in the moon landing hoax, or 'space probes' that allegedly disprove the Hollow Earth theory!

They're out there man (1)

masternerdguy (2468142) | more than 2 years ago | (#37973830)

They could be made of water.

Air Force Caffeine Department (3, Interesting)

bobsacks (784382) | more than 2 years ago | (#37973876)

Kind of off topic - I was buddies with a guy in the air force that worked on the caffeinated stuff. He came to visit one time and brought some caffeine pudding with him. Hell of a drug.

Re:Air Force Caffeine Department (1)

ThurstonMoore (605470) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974752)

A drug is a drug. Why are they using a shitty stimulant like caffeine. Why not use amphetamine it works much better?

Don't blame Phil (1)

paiute (550198) | more than 2 years ago | (#37973884)

It's just the probe speaking.

wording is key (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37973888)

"'The U.S. government has no evidence that any life exists outside our planet"

they said nothing about time travelers from our own planet, who just happen to resemble aliens.

Jerky (1)

Andrewkov (140579) | more than 2 years ago | (#37973946)

Mmmmmmm, Jerky.

As the world collapses around us... (1)

RazzleFrog (537054) | more than 2 years ago | (#37973958)

People are bothering the White House with this type of bullshit and Congress is voting to reaffirm our national motto. Can we just call a do-over and kick everybody out of office and start over?

Re:As the world collapses around us... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37974012)

No, mike@thinckaloud.com, you can't. You voted the dumbasses into power, you get to deal with the consequences. If you don't like it, go out with the OWS protesters and get your brains knocked out with a tear gas canister that your income tax helped pay for.

Re:As the world collapses around us... (1)

RazzleFrog (537054) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974054)

It's a fake email address so I am not all that concerned (and not exactly what you were trying to prove). I actually voted against the people who are currently representing me in Congress - can't help how my neighbors vote.

And while the principles of OWS have a sound basis - their methods are horribly flawed.

Re:As the world collapses around us... (2)

cdrguru (88047) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974236)

You misunderstand the function of the government. If we wanted an "efficient" government we would have 100x the laws we currently have. The government would be able to pass new funding resolutions, new laws, new regulations on the content of food, etc., etc., etc. and they woudl be able to do this very very quickly. Hundreds of news laws each week.

Instead, what we have is a system that is designed to provide gridlock, obstructionism and anything but efficiency. The very notion of a bicameral debating society insures that little is going to get done unless it is really, really important and everyone agrees right away. So we have endless periods where they find something that people can agree upon, like naming a post office after some dead person. And every once in a while a new law actually does get passed, usually by the slimmest of margins.

This is the way it is supposed to work, and if it wasn't working so incredibly inefficiently we would all be in lots of trouble. Dictatorships are efficient. Monarchies can be efficient, until they get bogged down with endless ministers and advisors. Parlimentory systems are never efficient and anytime you have a bicameral system you know it was designed from the beginning with a lack of efficiency in mind.

Re:As the world collapses around us... (1)

JDG1980 (2438906) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974654)

Instead, what we have is a system that is designed to provide gridlock, obstructionism and anything but efficiency. The very notion of a bicameral debating society insures that little is going to get done unless it is really, really important and everyone agrees right away. So we have endless periods where they find something that people can agree upon, like naming a post office after some dead person. And every once in a while a new law actually does get passed, usually by the slimmest of margins.

This is the way it is supposed to work, and if it wasn't working so incredibly inefficiently we would all be in lots of trouble.

Nonsense. Most European countries have parliamentary systems. This means that if a party campaigns on a platform and wins election, it can actually enact its agenda without having to jump through 20,000 flaming hoops in the Senate. Does this mean Europe is a totalitarian hellhole? Of course not. You'd be hard-pressed to claim that, say, Swedes or Norwegians are any less free in a meaningful sense than Americans are.

Re:As the world collapses around us... (1)

icebraining (1313345) | more than 2 years ago | (#37975290)

If an European party wins with less than 50%, it still has to negotiate with one or more parties of the opposition to pass new legislation. Sometimes they form a coalition, but that doesn't always happen, and even in that case there can be internal negotiations (after all, they're different parties with different platforms).

In fact, that's why we (Portugal) had elections before the expected date: the government resigned because they were unable to get their "legislation package" approved.

Re:As the world collapses around us... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37975120)

Requiring a super majority to do *anything* was never the way it was intended to work.

Allowing one senator to place an indefinite anonymous hold on any appointees was never the way it was intended to work.

I agree with your overarching point though. The system was designed to be slow, ponderous, plodding, but nothing like the way it is now.

Re:As the world collapses around us... (1)

jythie (914043) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974490)

The problem is, the people in office are a product of how people think and vote. They only do exactly what will allow them to keep their jobs... if you kick everyone out and hold elections you will end up with the exact same types of people in office again, because voters have not changed.

Re:As the world collapses around us... (1)

RazzleFrog (537054) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974774)

Who said anything about letting those people vote?

Re:As the world collapses around us... (1)

Scarred Intellect (1648867) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974848)

Yes.

So let's get started. If you aren't actively pursuing this, you are part of the problem (the problem being our country's quiet acquiescence to total government control).

Re:As the world collapses around us... (2)

RazzleFrog (537054) | more than 2 years ago | (#37975146)

Total government control is not the problem - Total Corporate control is and that is a much tougher battle to fight. It's hard to say - don't support evil corporations - because unless you plan on living on a farm and growing everything you eat and wear it is almost impossible to not give your money to some evil corporation.

This is an issue that crosses party lines but our current government is so polarized and dysfunctional that nothing is getting done to fix it. The worst part is I have no chance of winning office as an atheist so the best I can do is try to educate and inform as many people as I can - which as my friends will tell you, I do.

Re:As the world collapses around us... (1)

Scarred Intellect (1648867) | more than 2 years ago | (#37975436)

Well said. Being an atheist does give some hurdles to the election process, and you're probably right; I doubt you could get elected to any serious position that had a possibility of effecting some change.

So spreading the word is the best you can do, same with me for now. Too often I hear people that just complain and don't do anything except say how much things suck. Myself, I actually started a website, but had to take the server down due to an unfortunate series of events that cause me to lose my free hosting.

Re:As the world collapses around us... (1)

kiwimate (458274) | more than 2 years ago | (#37975094)

In reverse order...

Can we just call a do-over and kick everybody out of office and start over?

Well, duh, yes, of course you can. It's called an election. You don't have to vote the incumbents in, you know.

However -

People are bothering the White House with this type of bullshit

Sounds like you are targeting the wrong group of people and what you really want is to kick the entire country out of voting privileges and start over.

Re:As the world collapses around us... (1)

Dracos (107777) | more than 2 years ago | (#37975266)

Well, duh, yes, of course you can. It's called an election. You don't have to vote the incumbents in, you know.

Elections stopped working years ago. It's time for an Article V convention.

Re:As the world collapses around us... (0, Troll)

RazzleFrog (537054) | more than 2 years ago | (#37975268)

Exactly! You can only vote if:

- You believe in science and reason over religious dogma (and believing in intelligent life from other planets visiting and controlling our history is every bit a religion).
- You can find Europe on a map.
- You can find your state on a map.
- Your salary is no more than 10 times the lowest salary at your company.
- You are not a lawyer.
- You've gotten your hands dirty while working.
- You've never groped a woman/man who didn't want to be groped.
- You don't smoke anything.
- You don't buy products from Apple just to be cool.

I am sure I can think of more things but you get the idea.

Dear Citizens! (4, Funny)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 2 years ago | (#37973960)

We warmly welcome any further inquiries concerning matters distant from pressing issues that make the questioner look slightly insane for doubting us!

In fact, just in the spirit of openness, we voluntarily announce that neither we, nor the British royal family, are Pod People, or Reptoids from Delta Reticulon Minus. If you have any further requests for information or policy change that we can easily dismiss as being outside the window of political consideration, please let us know.

Re:Dear Citizens! (1)

The Grim Reefer2 (1195989) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974532)

In fact, just in the spirit of openness, we voluntarily announce that neither we, nor the British royal family, are Pod People, or Reptoids from Delta Reticulon Minus.

Of course the British royal family are none of those. They're werewolves.

Re:Dear Citizens! (1)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974598)

There is absolutely nothing sinister about the abnormally high specificity of my spontaneous candor. In particular, there are no such things as "Reptoids from Delta Reticulon Plus" for us to definitely not be.

Area 51 Syndrome (3, Insightful)

k6mfw (1182893) | more than 2 years ago | (#37973970)

This is one place government officials do not discuss, do not acknowledge it exists, etc. Yet there is this immense desire by people wanting to know what's going on at this place. This gives opportunity for creative people to say there are space aliens freeze-dried from the Roswell crash. OK, prove them wrong. You can't, only thing that can be done is debate among different groups. Unless US govt declassify the area, permit tours, photos, etc. but until then Area 51 remains a good place for conspiracies, movie plots, whatever.

Re:Area 51 Syndrome (4, Insightful)

Soilworker (795251) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974094)

Even if there is no alien in area 51 they still have new technology, missile and stuffs that you don't have to see.

If I don't want you to come at my house to see inside It must be because I have a trapped alien in it.

Re:Area 51 Syndrome (3, Funny)

Greystripe (1985692) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974208)

So what exactly are you doing with this trapped alien and did it come in peace?

Re:Area 51 Syndrome (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37974434)

... and did it come in peace?

Well, originally, yes.

Re:Area 51 Syndrome (1)

GReaToaK_2000 (217386) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974260)

Huzzah! Common Sense wins out in this post. Mod this right the heck up!

Re:Area 51 Syndrome (3, Informative)

mister_dave (1613441) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974110)

I watched a (UK TV) documentary by a defence journalist [google.co.uk] a year or so back, where he suggested that the whole UFO business dating back to Roswell was a dis-information campaign by the USAF to disguise their new product testing - now Area 51. I thought he made his case well.

Re:Area 51 Syndrome (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37975370)

I'd buy this. Most, if not all, people in the US know about Area 51, but most secret flight testing hasn't been done there for some time. Yet people continuously carry these theories and ideas about Area 51, and make out all this hype and create all this news about the place. It's great cover for the new location.

Posting anonymously so they don't hunt me down for posting this (and yes I know where the newest testing spot is).

Re:Area 51 Syndrome (2)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974220)

I don't know how much you know about Area 51 but my impression is that many top secret military aircraft were and are developed and tested there. Why would the government want to declassify that? I remember some UFO conspiracists saying that UFOs were triangular in shape not round as evidenced by what he saw flying out of there. Years later the government acknowledged the stealth fighter and the stealth bomber. There are rumors that a Mach 5+ spy plane code named Aurora is being developed there. I would favor Occam's razor in that top secret military projects are there instead of wild conspiracy theories about alien technology.

Re:Area 51 Syndrome (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37974650)

Wild Conspiracy Theories? Have you heard of the Disclosure Project? A number of high level government military and intelligence officials have gone on record as saying the US Govt has known for decades that some of the ufo's seen in the skies over the USA are in fact craft from other star systems.

Furthermore, some cheap stealth craft like the b-2 or even something like the Aurora doesn't come close to comparing to the technological capabilities of the craft that have been seen by many, namely the ability to rapidly accelerate to thousands of miles per hour then turn at 90 degree angles without stopping. Or traveling at several thousand mph then stopping suddenly.

Such capabilities are well outside anything we have technologically or will have for some time.

Re:Area 51 Syndrome (1)

spire3661 (1038968) | more than 2 years ago | (#37975020)

show me proooooooof. Speculation and rumor does not prove anything.

Re:Area 51 Syndrome (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37975180)

There are rumors that a Mach 5+ spy plane code named Aurora is being developed there.

Old rumor is old: "Aurora" was simply the codename of the project that begat the Northrop Grumman B-2 Spirit.

Re:Area 51 Syndrome (1)

timholman (71886) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974266)

Unless US govt declassify the area, permit tours, photos, etc. but until then Area 51 remains a good place for conspiracies, movie plots, whatever.

It wouldn't do a bit of good. Even if the U.S. government declassified every object and scrap of paper from Roswell and Area 51, and showed that there was zero evidence of alien visitation, the conspiracy theorists would just claim that the "real" evidence was still hidden or had been destroyed.

Trying to prove to a conspiracy theorist that aliens aren't visiting Earth is like trying to prove to a religious man that God doesn't exist. No amount of evidence will sway him; it is a matter of faith, not facts.

Re:Area 51 Syndrome (1)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974720)

I was watching a documentary on Fort Knox. In the late 70s there were all sorts of conspiracies that the government had moved/spent all the gold. Finally, the fort allowed some Congressmen and a TV crew inside the facilities to personally inspect the vault which was stacked full of gold. Then the conspiracists said no one was watching the fort the next day when a caravan of trucks took the gold away. Of course they had no photos of said trucks but it shows you people who really believe are not swayed by evidence.

Re:Area 51 Syndrome (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37974894)

This is silly. The fact that the gold is there doesn't prove anything. Who is the owner of that gold? That is the real question.

Re:Area 51 Syndrome (1)

simcop2387 (703011) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974288)

So you're saying that by denying the existence of a place known to exist it creates jobs... Someone needs to get on this!

Re:Area 51 Syndrome (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37974422)

We already know what they do there: they test new military secret aircrafts.

Re:Area 51 Syndrome (1)

ildon (413912) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974482)

Even if they had tours etc. the conspiracy theorists would just say they moved them somewhere else and cleaned it up after the fact. You can't satisfy these people.

Re:Area 51 Syndrome (1)

Kjella (173770) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974812)

Unless US govt declassify the area, permit tours, photos, etc. but until then Area 51 remains a good place for conspiracies, movie plots, whatever.

Then the conspiracy theorists would say it's been scrubbed clean and everything moved to an more secret facility. In fact, why are they trying so hard to prove it didn't happen if it didn't happen? That's why you have to ignore them, because the more evidence you give that it didn't happen the greater the proof it's a cover-up. Just forcing the government to acknowledge they're there and pose questions that "need" answering is like lighting a flare. I particularly remember the crop circles, that the same nutters took as definitive proof of aliens - or a couple pranksters with a plank, rope and a bit of wire. There's absolutely no way the US government can prove to them the aliens are not there, if so they're brainwashed by the alien mind control rays. Better wear your tinfoil hat.

According to polls (4, Insightful)

dkleinsc (563838) | more than 2 years ago | (#37973972)

14% of Americans think they've seen a UFO. An additional 20% haven't seen one, but believe they exist.

Somewhere around 10% of Americans approve of the job Congress is doing.

This says something about the United States, although I'm not sure exactly what.

I wonder how much is snark (2)

AdamJS (2466928) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974068)

Because I've certainly seen a UFO. I mean, it was probably just a plane or a helicopter and sometimes just a refraction of insects in the light from my glasses, but I seens thems, I'm sure.

Re:According to polls (4, Insightful)

chemicaldave (1776600) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974070)

It says two things. 1) People are willing to lie in surveys to feel special, and 2) The rest of America doesn't disapprove of Congress as a whole, just the other party.

Also, according to polls (4, Funny)

gshegosh (1587463) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974144)

78,32% of Americans believe any made up numbers.

Re:Also, according to polls (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37975076)

78,32% of Americans believe any made up numbers.

So is it 78 Americans, or 32% of Americans?

Re:According to polls (2)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974160)

Well, it suggests that ancient near-eastern science fiction writers are still holding up pretty well compared to contemporary science fiction writers, since the figure for Americans who believe in angels is 55%, fully 16% higher than UFOs...

Re:According to polls (4, Insightful)

RazzleFrog (537054) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974188)

90% believe in a god, 55% believe they are protected by guardian angels, 54% believe in psychic abilities, 41% believe in demonic/devil possession.

People believe in a lot of really dumb things.

Re:According to polls (1)

uigrad_2000 (398500) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974214)

People in the U.S. are very cynical when it comes to believing UFO claims. We have by far the greatest number of non-believers.

I believe Mexico and Russia are at the other end of the spectrum. Very few people in either of those countries doubt that aliens are the cause of most UFO outbreaks.

I think public perception in the US is changing, though. For example, the former governor of Arizona has admitted that he did cover up what he knew about the 1997 Phoenix lights [wikipedia.org] , and has now revealed that he and his wife did witness them also, and believes it was an alien ship. Once high profile people start coming forward as believers, the general public follows quickly.

Re:According to polls (1)

RazzleFrog (537054) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974384)

Ignorance and idiocy is a worldwide occurrence. In the US our neighbors seem to prefer believing in religious bullshit and in Russia and Mexico I guess it is alien bullshit. It just means we have to work harder on all fronts to fight this type of stuff and not encourage it.

Re:According to polls (1)

mosb1000 (710161) | more than 2 years ago | (#37975328)

The thing about UFOs is that the first word is "unidentified". If you don't know what an object is, and you see it in the sky, you have no way of knowing how big it is or how far away it is, or how fast it is moving. Lacking this information leads to further uncertainties as to the identity of the object.

I've seen objects in the night sky that I couldn't identify. I'm sure most people who watch the sky have. That doesn't mean that I wouldn't be able to identify them i I had more information.

Re:According to polls (1)

ohnocitizen (1951674) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974282)

I saw a UFO, until the baseball hit me in the head. I just don't approve of congress bailing out the already rich baseball players, and then refusing to prosecute them. If *I* threw a baseball at someone's head I'd probably get in trouble.

Re:According to polls (1)

DarkOx (621550) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974326)

It says its easier to imagine on the billions of little chemical interactions required to give rise to complex life forms, could and have occurred some place else, or that God an omnipotent being exits and created a second group of intelligent beings take your pick. After all that you have to imagine those people were able to solve the seemingly impossible challenges of physics get from where they are across the vast cosmos to come here.

You know what now that I think on it a little bit that is all way more plausible than 535 people we have in Congress being as inept as they apparently are.

Re:An open letter (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37974552)

FWIW... I know the Slashdot crowd is mostly hostile to anything outside the mainstream brainwashed and old crusty academic paradigm but there are a few open minds.

Rossi's E-Cat had a successful test run on Oct 28th. Cold fusion is here:
http://litcorner.net/component/content/article/623-energy-production/6515-rossis-e-cat-victory-on-cold-fusions-emergence-day-e-day

There's so much suppressed technology and so much manipulation of people's minds via the media. It's not working any more. People are starting to figure it out. The skeptics weak dismissal of everything outside the control agenda and their standard ridicule routine, and the old systems of control are all turning transparent, cracking, and crumbling... Anyone who does any kind of serious investigation of the ET issue will likely come to the conclusion that we are being actively visited and monitored by ETs.

http://stevebeckow.com/2011/11/an-open-letter-to-president-barack-obama-in-reply-to-your-disclosure-petition-response/#more-77350

President Barack Obama
White House, Washington, D.C.

Dear Mr. President,

It’s with a sense of disappointment that I reply to your response to our petition asking you to disclose the presence of extraterrestrials on and around our planet. (1) I reply as one of the organizations (The 2012 Scenario) that promoted this petition even though I, as a Canadian, did not sign it.

I state from the outset that I am friendly to your presidency and have been your supporter since the beginning of your campaign and remain so, as a cursory examination of my Internet site will show. (2) I urge you to hear these comments therefore as coming from a friendly source, and not from someone who wishes you ill.

I’m aware of the situation you face as President. For instance, I’m aware of the tsunami of partisan and unjustified criticism that your opponents have leveled against you since the day of your election, criticism that has unjustifiably lost you a great number of friends.

As one example of it, while you established to my satisfaction your own birth in the United States, your opponent in the last election, John McCain, was born in Panama and a previous President, George H.W. Bush, appears most likely to have been born in Germany. But nothing is made of these facts and allegations although they’ve been repeatedly made publicly. This is just one indication from many that the flood of propaganda against you is simply designed to cripple your Presidency. (3)

I’m also aware of the threat of assassination from such quarters as the CIA “black operations” unit or certain units of the U.S. Armed forces that has hung over those who publicly acknowledged the ET/UFO presence. (4)

I’d remind you that we in the Disclosure community who press for acknowledgement of the friendly ET presence have in the past willingly faced that threat of assassination as well as the risk of government harassment and loss of employability. But we continue to speak out because we know that disclosing the presence of peaceful extraterrestrial civilizations is of such importance to humanity that the risk to us is acceptable. We look to you to show the same courage and willingness to bear risk.

I’d remind you as well that your government routinely asks the men and women of America to face death in Iraq, Afghanistan and other theaters of war. The failure of members of your Administration to face that risk as well would seem to me to be a contradiction.

To say that I understand the reasons for your lack of transparency is not to say that I support them. I’m saddened that an opportunity such as this has been missed to reveal to the world that friendly extraterrestrials exist and are visiting the Earth for peaceful reasons at the present time. I’m especially saddened because you yourself initiated the device of petitions to the White House and yet your response seems to belie a lack of serious intent in addressing the issues therein raised.

I’m disappointed because we believe, on reasonable grounds, that Presidents like Dwight D. Eisenhower met with extraterrestrials (5) and that the Government of the United States has made treaties with them as well. (6)

I’m disappointed because the evidence of a UFO cover-up has been presented so broadly that I’d think it impossible for the United States Government to prolong its policy of denial and cover-up without losing all public credibility. (7) I think it not far-fetched to assert that an entire generation knows the details of your cover-up. Those of us who know the truth will no longer be silent or support your silence.

I’m disappointed as well because we’re reasonably convinced that the United States operates a secret space fleet called “Solar Warden,” (8) routinely flies spacecraft to Mars and back (the TR3-B Aurora), (9) has bases on Mars and the Moon as well, and regularly meets with extraterrestrials there. We know as well the existence of jump rooms to Mars, (10) of teleportation devices to terrestrial bases, (11) and of time travel. (12)

I’m disappointed also because it’s a matter of public knowledge that your armed forces and contractors have back-engineered materials like Kevlar and Teflon and devices like the silicon chip, laser, fiber-optics, anti-gravity technology, and stealth technology from downed spacecraft such as that which crashed at Roswell. (13)

The response of your science adviser to our petition seems to reflect a desire by your administration to continue the deception of the public. We’d like to point out that the response of the public generally, through mass demonstrations like the Occupy Together movement, signals a rejection of such a policy of opaqueness and deception. We’d also like to remind you that you yourself rejected such a policy upon running for and assuming your office.

Let me review some of the evidence that reveals the truth of the situation, the extent of public knowledge of the ET/UFO presence, and the friendly actions of the ETs to encourage us to disclose without forcing the situation.

Increasing numbers of former government employees are breaking the enforced policy of silence on the matter of ETs and UFOs. The Disclosure Project and the Hastings Panel (14) are comprised of military officers, former government personnel, and contractors who know that UFOs exist and who, sometimes at the risk of their careers and sometimes at the risk of their lives, come forward to confront the Government’s policy of denial.

Routinely, hundreds of videos of UFOs appear on YouTube. So as not to frighten us, the peace-loving extraterrestrials, most of whom are human in appearance and are in fact our forebears, usually maintain a respectful distance from us.

But they’ve appeared in fleets, distantly seen, above such cities as New York, London, Seoul, Mexico City, Lima, and elsewhere. (15) They’ve appeared in dramatic circumstances such as the sighting above the Dome on the Rock. (16) They’ve appeared around catastrophes like the Japanese earthquake and tsunami, the Icelandic volcanic eruption, etc. There are even photographs circulating of them appearing at your political rallies. (See the photo at the top of this story.)

Routinely as well, representatives of galactic civilizations issue messages to terrestrials and have been doing so since a British TV station was interrupted on Nov. 26, 1977 to carry a message from the Galactic Federation. (17)

While SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) trains its linked arrays of radiotelescopes on outer space listening for clicks and beeps, the rest of us regularly read extraterrestrial messages from representatives of the Galactic Federation, which is currently around the planet in millions of cloaked space vehicles. (18) They won’t interfere with us until invited. Unlike us they respect the universal laws, including the Law of Freewill. (That having been said, they are here on a mission and will decloak at some point if no response is forthcoming from us.)

To us, it seems more than anachronistic that all contemporary scientists deny the existence of intergalactic life and claim to have no knowledge of its nature. We’d be happy to enlighten them on those matters if they’d ask us. Our knowledge of galactic culture and technology is growing by leaps and bounds which all will enjoy once the ET presence is disclosed and their ships can land among us. There is nothing to fear from their presence and much to be gained by everyone on Earth.

That the extraterrestrial fleet here to assist us at this time is friendly has been shown by their actions: they’ve prevented nuclear bombs from being exploded on this planet; they’ve prevented wars from breaking out such as American and Israeli attempts to start a war with Iran; they’ve neutralized the toxic components of nuclear bombs, depleted-uranium weapons, chemtrails, and pandemics (manufactured at Fort Detrick); they’ve prevented numerous wars and false-flag operations from being perpetrated; they’ve moderated the impact of storms, hurricanes, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions which have been deliberately triggered by rogue military elements who themselves received the weather-warfare technology from equally-rogue extraterrestrial civilizations.

These rogue civilizations such as the little Greys and others have been responsible for the many abductions of the past fifty years, which could only have come about because of treaties with primarily the American government which allowed the acts to occur in return for ET technology. The benign fleet that surrounds the Earth at the present time has delivered this planet from the little Greys, who can no longer approach the Earth.

Had the Galactic Federation wished to do us harm, they could have done so at any time in the past several decades during which they’ve protected this planet against others who meant us harm, including many in our own governments.

You can see then that an entire generation is growing up that’s well aware of the UFO cover-up and gaining knowledge every day of all aspects of space civilizations and cultures. It’s impossible for you to pretend that extraterrestrials don’t exist and foolhardy of your government to try.

Your Administration missed this opportunity to abandon the cover-up by responding in an intelligent and wise manner to our petition. But we won’t let up in our attempts to convince you – that is, before the extraterrestrials themselves disclose their presence. Our position is simple: honesty is the best policy and the population at large no longer can be deceived in the same way it has up until now without the Government experiencing the consequences.

Sincerely yours,

Steve Beckow
Editor
The 2012 Scenario

http://stevebeckow.com

Footnotes

(1) Our petition can be found at http://wh.gov/gKC . Your response can be found there as well, entitled “Searching for ET, But No Evidence Yet” by “Phil Larson who works on space policy and communications at the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy,” dated Nov. 4, 2011. It says in part:

“The U.S. government has no evidence that any life exists outside our planet, or that an extraterrestrial presence has contacted or engaged any member of the human race. In addition, there is no credible information to suggest that any evidence is being hidden from the public’s eye.”

(2) “This Site is Pro-Obama” at http://stevebeckow.com/this-site-i-pro-obama/

(3) On John McCain, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_mccain . On George H.W. Bush, Born George H. Scherff, Jr, see “This President Was Not Born an American Citizen,” at http://stevebeckow.com/2011/04/this-president-is-not-an-american-citizen/ ; for examples of other sites posting these reports, see www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_bush19.htm ;http://educate-yourself.org/cn/familythatpreystogethercompared24aug07.shtml ; www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1191060/pg1; etc.

(4) I allege that the following people were assassinated in whole or in part because of their desire to disclose the ET/UFO presence: Secretary of Defence James Forrestal, President Kennedy, Phil Schneider, Billy Cooper, and CIA Director William Colby.

(5) Michael E. Salla, PhD, “Eisenhower’s 1954 Meeting With Extraterrestrials:
The Fiftieth Anniversary of First Contact?,” Research Study #8, Revised February 12, 2004, first published January 28, 2004, at http://www.exopolitics.org/Study-paper-8.htm

(6) “From the Book: Behold A Pale Horse Published in 1991 By Milton William Cooper, former United States Intelligence Briefing team member. (Born the 5th of May 1943 and killed on the 6th of November de 2001)” at http://home.iae.nl/users/lightnet/world/cooper.html ; “SECRET TREATY [between] The United States Government and Extra-terrestrial Entities by Richard K. Wilson and Sylvan Burns” at http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/alien-treaty.htm.

(7) For instance, see “A Wall of UFO Secrecy since the Earliest Days” at http://stevebeckow.com/world-disclosure-day/the-ufo-cover-up/a-wall-of-ufo-secrecy-since-the-earliest-days/ or “Fred Burks: Astronauts, Admirals, CIA Chief Reveal UFO Cover-up” at http://stevebeckow.com/world-disclosure-day/the-ufo-cover-up/fred-burks-astronauts-admirals-cia-chief-reveal-ufo-cover-up/ . These are just two of the round-ups of the U.S. Government’s UFO cover-up.

(8) See “ Ed Komarek: More Background on Solar Warden” at http://stevebeckow.com/2010/07/ed-komarek-more-background-on-solar-warden/; “Ed Komarek: Four Major ET/UFO Issues” at http://stevebeckow.com/2010/07/ed-komarek-four-major-etufo-issues/; “Ed Komarek’s Round-up on ET and UFO Topics” at http://stevebeckow.com/2010/07/ed-komareks-round-up-on-et-and-ufo-topics/ . Also: Michael Salla, Ph.D., “Star Trek vs. Solar Warden – The Real Space Fleet,” Honolulu Exopolitics Examiner, May 8, 2010, at http://www.examiner.com/x-2383-Honolulu-Exopolitics-Examiner~y2009m5d8-Star-Trek-vs-Solar-Warden-the-real-Starfleet ; “DoD confirms reality of secret SOLAR WARDEN space project to UFO researcher” at http://thetruthbehindthescenes.wordpress.com/2011/02/15/dod-confirms-reality-of-secret-solar-warden-space-project-to-ufo-researcher/.

(9) Here is a video of the TR3-B: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLdfTMPZcyM

(10) “A conversation with Andrew D. Basiago about the hidden history of his discovery of life on Mars” at http://www.gatheringspot.net/news-article/ufosets/conversation-andrew-d-basiago-about-hidden-history-his-discovery-life-mars (this is just one of many references to the matter, which Andrew Basiago has discussed in videos and radio shows as well). Also see “An Important New Statement From Henry Deacon [Arthur Neumann],” 17 December 2007
from ProjectCamelot Website, at http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_henrydeacon04.htm

(11) Basiago at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ6qeOyob9w

(12) Donna Anderson, “Andrew D. Basiago discusses time travel and the Pegasus Project,” Coast to Coast Radio Examiner, Nov. 13, 2010, at http://www.examiner.com/coast-to-coast-radio-in-national/andrew-d-brasiago-discusses-time-travel-and-the-pegasus-project Also “Coast 2 Coast PROJECT PEGASUS, U.S. Space Time Program and Teleportation” at http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_obama85.htm

(13) Some of these inventions like the silicon chip and fiber-optics are discussed here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENzqYCR_djg&feature=related . See also Philip J. Corso,” Wikipedia, at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_J._Corso; Richard Boylan, “ET Base on Earth Sanctioned by Officials Since 1954 Confirmed” at http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread61318/pg1 ; Nick Pope, “Roswell officer’s amazing deathbed admission raises possibility that aliens DID visit,” Telegraph, Jun 30, 207, at http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-465276/Roswell-officers-amazing-deathbed-admission-raises-possibility-aliens-DID-visit.html#ixzz1crGWwkEz A simple Google search will reveal many more sources. I personally heard from two engineers at Hughes Aircraft that Hughes had back-engineered the silicon chip from materials salvaged from the Roswell spacecraft. My own account has been reproduced here: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/prepare4contact/message/51347 Here is another indication of the accuracy of that story: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/dayafterroswell/dayafter13.htm

(14) See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vyVe-6YdUk on the Disclosure Project and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud49Gh9yYLs&feature=related , Part 1 (four hours of witness testimony are contained in this series of videos), and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtmpaM0PqyI on the Hastings Panel.

(15) Videos of fleets can be seen at “Compendium of Fleets,” at http://stevebeckow.com/world-disclosure-day/et-ufo-disclosure/compendium-of-ufo-fleets/

(16) Dome of the Rock video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suJlDRoahLA&feature=player_embedded

(17) The broadcast can be heard here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQA0_FmevQM The points it makes are consistent with numerous other messages from space nations.

(18) The best galactic messages, in my opinion, come from the Galactic Federation and are found on websites such as http://www.treeofthegoldenlight.com/First_Contact/Channeled_Messages_by_Mike_Quinsey.htm , http://wandererodtheskies.blogspot.com and http://www.onenessofall.com/Welcome2.html .

Re:According to polls (1)

danlip (737336) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974688)

Almost everyone has seen a UFO, which is to say they have seen something in the sky they could not identify. That is all that UFO means. That doesn't mean that most of those people believe they have seen an extraterrestrial space ship. We really need a different word.

Re:According to polls (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37974958)

The problem with the concept of believing in UFO's is that the whole statement is ambiguous.

I have a friend who saw a UFO. It was something he was not used to seeing, it was airborne, and he could not explain it. He does not, however, believe in aliens. He figures it was just an atmospheric phenomenon of some kind.

So any "studies" that talk about seeing UFO's or believing in them are meaningless. I'd say that if you counted the number of people who believed in UFO's by a strict definition (i.e. believe that there are unidentified flying objects) it would be closer to 100%. But how many of those 20% who say they believe in UFO's are going by that strict definition, vs. how many are going by the definition of UFO=alien? Unless we know that, the 20% simply gives an upper bound on the number of people who believe in aliens visiting the earth. The real number will be somewhat lower than that. How much lower? Until someone actually asks a more specific question (e.g. do you believe alien spacecraft have been spotted over the earth) I really couldn't say.

Although I will admit, the 14% is probably accurate. Anyone who has seen something they couldn't explain (at least if it was unusual enough that they remembered it) would probably answer yes to that question in any poll or study. But like the 20%, the 14% is just an upper bound on how many people believe they've seen an alien spacecraft.

Re:According to polls (1)

lexman098 (1983842) | more than 2 years ago | (#37975084)

I think it says less about the US than it does about how seriously random polls should be taken.

Skepticism (1)

suomynonAyletamitlU (1618513) | more than 2 years ago | (#37975364)

I saw a UFO while staring at the sky one day several years ago. That is to say, I saw something, and I don't know what it was. Given apparent distance, size, and motion characteristics, I can't match it to any known technology, physical effect, or biological creature. In fact, its behavior was unreal enough to make me doubt it was anything mundane. That doesn't prove that it's otherwise, and any suspicions I have that it could have been something alien are just that, suspicions.

Skepticism can coexist with unknown phenomena. One data point doesn't convince me. Rumors of other data points doesn't convince me. However, in absence of an explanation of all such events, it would be naive to trust people who say "It CANNOT be alien, as Aliens don't exist." Those are the words of True Believers, not skeptics.

And anyway, there's less evidence that Congress is on the side of the people than that there's aliens, so I don't know what you're trying to say. /snark

handled like a pro (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37974014)

As long as people who worked at Wright-Patterson keep talking about what they saw at Hangar 18 on their deathbeds, nothing the government says will change anything.

Unfortunately, I don't imagine Wright-Patterson will ever start giving tours, even if everything they have there is terrestrial. This stand-off is destined to continue forever.

Evidence for life (1, Interesting)

doconnor (134648) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974048)

"The U.S. government has no evidence that any life exists outside our planet"

The U.S. government does have some evidence life exists on Mars. There are the fossils in the Martian meteorites, and the controversial results of the Viking life detection experiments plus our understanding of how quickly life appeared on Earth and its ability to adapt to conditions like Mars currently has, by living in the rocks.

While I won't claim there is enough evidence yet to concluded that there is life on Mars, there is more then "no evidence".

Re:Evidence for life (1)

AdamJS (2466928) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974102)

I think they were just being frank.
Or Phil, in this case.

Re:Evidence for life (2)

Frenzied Apathy (2473340) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974202)

I think we can assume he was referring to sentient life...

[rolleyes]

Re:Evidence for life (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37974446)

In that case "The U.S. government has no evidence that any sentient life exists within the U.S. government."

Re:Evidence for life (1)

Arlet (29997) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974246)

It's close enough. I doubt the petitioners were interested in possible bacterial life on Mars anyway.

Re:Evidence for life (1)

medv4380 (1604309) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974250)

You're just nit picking now. Those are things that are all available to the public and from the science community they are still debating what those really mean (well some people). The petition was clearly intended to address those people who believe in aliens actively visiting the earth, and that the government is covering it up. Which is pointless because to those people any answer other then "yes there are aliens visiting use" only fuels the thought that the government is covering it up.

Re:Evidence for life (1)

RazzleFrog (537054) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974264)

Wouldn't fossils mean that life "existed" and not necessarily that life continues to exist?

I think they also were talking more specifically about intelligent life.

Mitchael and Webb said it best. (1)

gurps_npc (621217) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974116)

Check it out here: That Mitchell and Webb Look - The Aliens [youtube.com]

The idea the government would keep aliens secret is incredibly stupid. Their reasons were:

a. Keeping secrets is fun.

b. To avoid having the government get blamed for something they are not responsible for - by doing something bad that would actually make them responsible.

c. It's the sort of thing that governments generally do.

Re:Mitchael and Webb said it best. (0, Troll)

UnknownSoldier (67820) | more than 2 years ago | (#37975240)

That's a total bullshit argument.

NASA would beg to differ...
Evidence: The Case For NASA UFO's - Part 2
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8524267568796529301 [google.com]

As would these 500 men ...
http://www.disclosureproject.org/ [disclosureproject.org]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkswXVmG4xM [youtube.com]

Finally, you'll get your dam personal proof in ~2030, and the we can stop arguing about these nonsense questions and get to the real questions -- "What is your view on Religion? Politics? Economics? Math?" .. and the most important one "Why the fuck do you look like humans?"

NASA? (1)

DarkOx (621550) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974120)

has no evidence that any life exists outside our planet

I think we spent huge piles of tax dollars in order to get all excited that there was evidence of both water and bateria on Mars?

If the White House can't get basic facts strait about recent and very public scientific develops, why should we take the rest of their response seriously. Its not like this is Slashdot we are talking about here with its lack of editing, these are professional publicity people who don't make mistakes and obvious omissions.

Re:NASA? (1)

Nevynxxx (932175) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974554)

Or put another way, if they can't even get their basic facts straight, how in the world can they keep up a multi-year, multi-party, lie involving hundreds, if not thousands of people?

Re:NASA? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37974914)

I think we spent huge piles of tax dollars in order to get all excited that there was evidence of both water and bateria on Mars?

If the White House can't get basic facts strait about recent and very public scientific develops, why should we take the rest of their response seriously. Its not like this is Slashdot we are talking about here with its lack of editing, these are professional publicity people who don't make mistakes and obvious omissions.

It's all about exoteric vs esoteric writing,

The exoteric message is "there are no aliens" but the factual error in "no evidence that any life exists outside our planet" is meant to tip you off towards the esoteric message.

It's a well-known pattern that has been used for a very long time (by the classical Greek philosophers, the medieval Arab filasafa, ...).

Show yourself! (1)

na1led (1030470) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974158)

If Aliens are visiting Earth at this time, I wish they would just show themselves to the rest of the world! I'm sure there has to be other life in the universe, but I think even if we find evidence it's not going to be publicized. There are far less impacting news that are kept secret than the existence of Aliens, so I don't think we will ever find out unless these Aliens decided to make themselves known to everyone.

Wouldn't that be amazing? (2)

ZouPrime (460611) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974224)

After hand-waiving away the cannabis legalization and the software patent petitions, it would have been amazing to see the White House answers this one candidly. "After seeing such public pressure on the matter over decades, this administration has decided to come clean with the Martians and our contacts with them."

What did they expect? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37974292)

"We had hoped to keep this secret, but the petitioners have left us no choice. Aliens are totally real, and are among us."

You want proof there are no ETs on earth? (5, Insightful)

Oswald McWeany (2428506) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974298)

You want proof there are no ETs on earth?

Look at the defense budget.
Now look at NASAs budget.

NASA's budget is tiny in comparison. Clearly the US sees other countries as much bigger threat than the anal-probers from outta space. Either that or they feel that a little humiliation for the drunk rednecks that spot them is acceptable.

If we had discovered aliens do you really think we'd be slashing science spending and space exploration costs?

Do you really think the US would be the only country to know about them and that all 200+ nations on earth are collaborating together to keep us in the dark.

It is ludicrous. The one way you know that aliens have been found and secretly being kept away from the public is when the government starts putting higher priority on space funding and NASA's budget starts rocketing upwards instead of getting cut further and further each year.

Re:You want proof there are no ETs on earth? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37974394)

Well, you could also argue the other way round:

Why do they spend so little on space? Well, obviously they already have all the access to space they want. So who provides that access? Well, aliens, of course. So why do they have a space program at all? For plausible deniability. Otherwise they'd have a hard time to explain how all their satellites get up there ...

Re:You want proof there are no ETs on earth? (1)

synapse7 (1075571) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974522)

I agree with Oswald's "follow the money" line of reasoning.

Re:You want proof there are no ETs on earth? (1)

brokeninside (34168) | more than 2 years ago | (#37975196)

Or, alternatively, NASA has such a small budget because the real (and undisclosed) space budget goes to the top secret military space program rather than the mostly open civilian space program.

Re:You want proof there are no ETs on earth? (1)

delinear (991444) | more than 2 years ago | (#37975250)

If we already had all the space tech we needed, we'd already be colonising other planets, mining asteroids or deploying fuel scoops to avoid current energy worries. If we didn't have the tech but we'd met aliens and knew it was possible, we'd be seeing massive funding in the space programme to get us to the point the aliens are at. It's a bit of a stretch to believe that we have the tech to reach out to other start systems, but we're cutting funding to the "putting people in orbit around the planet in tinfoil tubes" programme to throw a handful of conspiracy theorists off the scent.

Re:You want proof there are no ETs on earth? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37974646)

That's because, as all conspiracy theorists know, the alien space program is hidden inside a secret part of the Air Force's budget. They just make the NASA budget small to trick people into thinking there isn't anything out there.

Watching too much TV (3, Insightful)

Lev13than (581686) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974472)

To sum up TFA:

1. Aliens are almost certainly real. Those who refuse to believe in the likely existence of extraterrestrial life either refuse to acknowledge or cannot comprehend the vastness of space and (especially) the vastness of time.

2. UFOs are absolutely real. There are lots of instances where people legitimately see objects in the sky that they cannot identify/classify.

3. UFOs are absolutely not aliens. Those who believe that aliens have visited earth either refuse to acknowledge or cannot comprehend the vastness of space and (especially) the vastness of time.

Re:Watching too much TV (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37974762)

Yes, aliens are almost certainly real, with a probability somewhere between around 0 and 1.

Re:Watching too much TV (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37975282)

Aliens are almost certainly real

To state this with the confidence that you so clearly have, you must know 2 key pieces of information:

1) The number of planets in the universe
2) The probability that intelligent life will pop up on a randomly selected planet.

You should probably publish this information and your methodology for coming up with it. You'd undoubtedly be up for a Nobel Prize in Physics.

Re:Watching too much TV (1)

HermDog (24570) | more than 2 years ago | (#37975442)

You left out the part about how the current administration has obviously misplaced all the valuable aliens and alien artifacts that have been collected over the past several decades. (I don't recall whether Bush denied *he* had any, so they must have been accounted for during the previous administration.)

Submission sarcasm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37974628)

With Veterans Day right around the corner, I'd like to thank the submitter for his sarcasm regarding technology driven by a desire to keep our soldiers alert and sharpen their reflexes on the battlefront.

Yes, priorities indeed.

Interesting Petitions on the Site (1)

ideonexus (1257332) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974942)

Gotta say it takes some cahones for the administration to maintain a site like this. On the first page of open petitions are "We demand a vapid, condescending, meaningless, politically safe response to this petition. [whitehouse.gov] " and "Stop Lying [whitehouse.gov] ." I give Obama points for efforts like this, even though some of the petitions I see there are valid enough to make me detract even more points. I highly doubt this site will continue to exist in future administrations.

Repurposed material (1)

sixtyeight (844265) | more than 2 years ago | (#37974988)

Nearly a year ago, the FBI and NSA both released classified documents giving more information on the Roswell crash and saucers. It was all over the media.

Now the White House firmly denies it.

Regardless of the actual issue of aliens, whether they exist or not the government's use of the topic appears to be to keep the citizenry fascinated by ooh-and-aah topics and distracted from overhauling their political system into something more functional. "They exist... They exist not... They exist... Wait, who's Britney dating now?"

Re:Repurposed material (1)

sixtyeight (844265) | more than 2 years ago | (#37975054)

I'd also like to know why we'd trust as our authority on extraterrestrial life an organization that has brought us the JFK assassination and Iraq's supposed WMDs.

NO evidence of life exists outside our planet. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37975116)

Everyone knows that there are no aliens from other planets. All the UFO are actually humans from Earth.

Just not the Earth we live on in the space time continuum. Or perhaps they are from inside the Earth.

But they are all Earthlings.

No, we haven't had any contact... and here's why (1)

whitroth (9367) | more than 2 years ago | (#37975190)

There are folks who think the technology of microwave ovens was given to us by aliens. But then, esp. in the US, we have the worst math and science ed among the general populace of any industrialized nation.

The reason I know there's been no contact is that there have been *zero* amazing breakthroughs in the last century. We can look at every bit of original research that led to all technological advances.

Had we actually had contact with aliens, even if they didn't give us technology, there would have been scientists (and every form known of observation) aimed at them, and just knowing that something (say, anti-gravity, or force fields) existed, would lead a very strong line of rapid development, to where we'd have something that did something like it, if it wasn't the same.

                          mark

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