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Gadget Allows You to Keep Bees In Your Apartment

samzenpus posted more than 2 years ago | from the what-could-possibly-go-wrong? dept.

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greenrainbow writes "Philips just unveiled a new concept for an urban beehive that would allow anyone to become an amateur bee keeper – even those who live in apartments with no backyards. Best of all you pull a little string and all the fresh honey you want comes out. Hopefully no bees come with it!"

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Happy November from the Golden Girls! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37999250)

Thank you for being a friend
Traveled down the road and back again
Your heart is true, you're a pal and a cosmonaut.

And if you threw a party
Invited everyone you ever knew
You would see the biggest gift would be from me
And the card attached would say, thank you for being a friend.

Re:Happy November from the Golden Girls! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37999334)

I know I'm feeding the troll, but the 3rd line last word is "confidant", not "cosmonaut."

Re:Happy November from the Golden Girls! (-1, Offtopic)

NatasRevol (731260) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999398)

I thought it was condiment?

Re:Happy November from the Golden Girls! (-1, Offtopic)

jitterman (987991) | more than 2 years ago | (#38000152)

Cormorant?

What could possibly go wrong? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37999254)

I mean, really. Seems perfectly reasonable.

Re:What could possibly go wrong? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37999706)

Some friends over for beer, loud music and OH GOD BEES EVERYWHERE!

Re:What could possibly go wrong? (1)

ObsessiveMathsFreak (773371) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999914)

Killer bees, Lazlow...

Re:What could possibly go wrong? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37999956)

I think in this particular instance, the more relevant question is: What could possibly go right?

Yeah, right (1)

WillerZ (814133) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999256)

At most, all the fresh honey contained therein will come out. This may be less than all the fresh honey I want.

/. troll (1)

mehrotra.akash (1539473) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999258)

is this a /. troll?

Missing element.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37999264)

Don't them bees need flowers to make honey?

Re:Missing element.... (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999464)

Yeah if you trap bees in there they'll only be able to produce honey with whatever pollen they already had stuck to their legs. Bees can't fly freely = halted honey production.

Re:Missing element.... (2)

pahles (701275) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999518)

eehhhmm... bees don't make honey from pollen. But you knew that already, didn't you?

Re:Missing element.... (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999578)

Yeah just realized, D'oh!

Re:Missing element.... (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999556)

Oh fuck me. s/pollen they already had stuck to their legs/nectar they already had in their stomachs/g

Re:Missing element.... (1)

gfxguy (98788) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999604)

Ummm... the bees can get out. This is a window mounted deal with an egress on the outside for the bees; on the inside, you get that fancy view of the hive and the "string" to get honey.

Re:Missing element.... (1)

thedonger (1317951) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999886)

Great, until they get stuck in Manhattan traffic on their to Central Park, where they will have to compete with all the other city bees for flowers.

Re:Missing element.... (1)

The Pirou (1551493) | more than 2 years ago | (#38000312)

Read the article (Or just work it out by looking at the picture).

The unit as conceptualized involves an exit via that white little tube sticking out of the back of the structure. The unit as presented is assembled around a window pane (walls aren't thin enough) with a hole cut in it to allow the exit tube to feed through.

Article Title (5, Funny)

kellyb9 (954229) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999276)

Philips Unveils Sexy Urban Beehive Concept

I'll admit... it's entirely possible that I don't understand the meaning of that word.

Re:Article Title (3, Funny)

SJHillman (1966756) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999360)

It all depends on a person's fetishes...

Re:Article Title (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37999390)

What, didn't your parents teach you about the birds and the bees?

Sorry...

Re:Article Title (1)

Chrisq (894406) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999534)

Philips Unveils Sexy Urban Beehive Concept

I'll admit... it's entirely possible that I don't understand the meaning of that word.

Just in case you're mind's going where I think it is, on no account should you stick your dick in a beehive..... At least without smoking it first.

Re:Article Title (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38000246)

Here to report to the Slashdot community to ignore future advice from Chrisq.

I just followed his advice and had my dick stung furiously and numerous times almost immediately upon penetrating my grandfather's beehives. This was despite a heavy application of smoke all over my dick and balls just prior to the attempt.

Re:Article Title (1)

vlm (69642) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999572)

The second "outside" photo looks a heck of a lot like a urinal. I suppose with aggressive enough bees drunk guys will only make the mistake once. The phrase "in the closet" has been replaced by certain morally superior republican lawmakers with "in the bathroom" so to a certain red state constituency this probably is extremely sexy.

Now if you remember the "milk bar" scene from Clockwork Orange then something similar outputting honey would be kind of cool, but this is not it.

The final possibility is something like "gerbiling" exists for stinging bees, but this is way outside any area I know of.

Re:Article Title (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37999658)

### NSFW ### Isn't it [e621.net]
obvious [e621.net] ?.

Re:Article Title (1)

mcavic (2007672) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999730)

+1 Relevant.

Re:Article Title (1)

Digital Vomit (891734) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999962)

You think that's bad? I once read of an external laptop battery pack being described as "sexy" in a trade magazine a number of years ago.

How Do You Prime/Put a Swarm Into This? (5, Informative)

eldavojohn (898314) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999280)

I'm not a beekeeper but my aunt had a couple hive boxes that she kept year round. One had a hive that stayed around but the other had a problem of dying off or swarming and moving away (despite the fact that we treated each box exactly the same and packed them with hay bails just before winter). Once she captured a hive with a nuc and successfully moved it into the failing hive box but it didn't last long. This minimalist design appears to solve the warmth issue (by keeping it on the inside of your home) but what happens when your swarm moves or your queen dies and there's no brood to create a new hive? Is there a method to repopulating these things?

Also, does anyone know if bees select their hives based on locality to fields and nectar sources? From my aunt's experiences, bees seem to be fickle creatures and will readily leave due to inattentive keepers. I imagine a lot of these things would just end up empty.

One more concern is that the small aperture on the outside might be subject to blockage by freezing rain, ice or snow and in the picture it looks like it would be hard to remedy that.

Re:How Do You Prime/Put a Swarm Into This? (1)

TFAFalcon (1839122) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999340)

From what i know just sticking a swarm into an empty hive will work well enough - you just need to get yourself a swarm from a local bee keeper (can't wait for all the lawsuits from people stung by agitated bees).

Re:How Do You Prime/Put a Swarm Into This? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37999498)

Nope, that won't necessarily work. I've witnessed attempting to create a new hive. A swarm broke off from an existing hive and flew away. They were tracked down and put into a new hive box, and they stayed there for several hours, but then they took off and went elsewhere.

Re:How Do You Prime/Put a Swarm Into This? (2)

TFAFalcon (1839122) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999776)

I don't think there is any way to 'force' a hive to stay put, but there is also not all that much that you need to do to persuade them to stay - some panes full of brood might help, since the bees will feel a need to care for them, but if you get unlucky they might fly away, or you get lucky and every hive you catch this way will remain.

Re:How Do You Prime/Put a Swarm Into This? (5, Interesting)

Moryath (553296) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999408)

A lot of good questions there.

I would presume that there's some form of service contract or services that can be purchased for things like "seeding" a new hive. What I'd be more worried about is the aspect of getting it cleaned out if you had a hive die-off due to infection or mites.

As for how bees select their hives... that's an oddity. I would guess that there was some unknown difference between your aunt's two hives - either in the genealogy of the bees themselves, or the location of the hive, like too much or too little shade compared to the other one. As you said, they can be fickle creatures. With the indoor/outdoor aspect, I'd be more worried about them getting fooled by the interior temperature during winter, and sending out all their scouts to die off in freezing temperatures.

In the other side though... you're about one 5-year-old with a baseball bat from having an angry swarm of bees in your apartment and a giant honey mess on the floor with this design. I don't know if that's such a great thought.

Re:How Do You Prime/Put a Swarm Into This? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37999610)

It is. Either you'll learn to be a proper parent and your 5yr-old will _not_ even consider swinging around a baseball bat inside, or the bees will make it clear that for every idiotic action that should be harshly punished, punishment _will_ be delivered, thus that 5yr-old will, if he survives, be properly traumatized into a decent human being.

Re:How Do You Prime/Put a Swarm Into This? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38000276)

I'm sorry your experience with 5 year olds is so poor :(

Maybe not so much with the warmth. (5, Informative)

Slartibartfast (3395) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999630)

A hive that doesn't winter well is a sickly hive; something's wrong. A hive that's kept warm all winter, I'd actually have huge concerns about: the bees' metabolism would kick into gear: they'd both need more food, and (likely) need to clean the hive. The first would be... interesting to implement, the second would almost certainly be impossible with temperatures near or below freezing. (Bees really don't like to be out in temps below the mid 50's.)

Bees don't leave due to inattentive keepers; they leave only when something is incredibly stressful in their environment -- not enough to forage from (though that's almost inconceivable in most locales, including cities), or -- far more likely -- persistent pestering by skunks, raccoons, etc. They seem to have no problem trying to get some honey for themselves in the middle of the night. There are two ways bees leave a hive: swarming, which is really just when the hive is large enough to branch out, and absconding, which is Bad News, and almost always due to environmental factors.

And, yes, I was a beekeeper. ;-)

Re:Maybe not so much with the warmth. (2)

TFAFalcon (1839122) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999878)

My question is if bees can even survive a winter if their hive is kept warm. I though the low temperatures during winter were what enabled the workers to survive so much longer then their normal 'summer' lifetime.

Re:Maybe not so much with the warmth. (2)

flink (18449) | more than 2 years ago | (#38000288)

Bees don't hibernate or anything. During the winter, they expend a huge amount of energy keeping their hive warm. They must maintain a hive temperature between 85 and 95 degrees to survive. They do this by clustering together and rapidly vibrating their wings. That's what honey is for: it's stored energy so they can perform this function when there is no food available during the winter.

So bees kept indoors might actually survive better due to not needing to expend as much energy. The only question I guess would be whether they would be smart enough to stay inside or if they would keep sending foragers out to freeze.

Re:How Do You Prime/Put a Swarm Into This? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37999950)

From what I understand, you can just buy a small colony with a queen. The hive entrance is sized so the larger queen can't leave and the worker bees stay with the queen...

Re:How Do You Prime/Put a Swarm Into This? (2)

TFAFalcon (1839122) | more than 2 years ago | (#38000044)

What happens when the hive is ready to swarm, and the old queen can't leave?

Re:How Do You Prime/Put a Swarm Into This? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38000284)

I thought this was to hang outside on your balcony. why would you want it inside your home, and you'd have to keep windows open so they can leave and get nector. what about the A/C?

i'd love to have one though! i love honey, and bees are cute

As a beekeper (5, Informative)

PhracturedBlue (224393) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999282)

I have lots of questions, like, how can you extract the honey from the comb automatically? the normal way to do this is via centrifuge, and generally, you want to do that without the bees. also, bees are messy. They fill every nook and cranny with propolis, and build wherever there is space. By guess is the glass would fill up with extra comb and propolis making the hive a lot less elegant. Lastly...Smoking and then opening the hive into the home? That is crazy. Smoking bees calms them but it doesn't anesthetize them. They still fly around some, and they still don't like you messing with the comb after smoking.

Re:As a beekeper (5, Informative)

MancunianMaskMan (701642) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999338)

As a fellow beekeeper, i'd go further and say this is utter BS. Like most of the "inhabitat" stuff, actually.

Re:As a beekeper (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37999430)

Also as a fellow beekeeper, there are so many things wrong with this system that I don't know where to start. Beekeeping is taking care of bees, and unless you can pull and inspect combs to deal with queen cells/aging queens/wax moths/mites/foul brood/cycling old comb/harvesting/collecting pollen?/oh dear god...

Let alone, keeping the bees room temperature during the winter encourages the hive to fly on cold days and kill itself.

Oh, and the weight of the hive will drastically increase and change over the course of the year. Where's the physical support?

And how would you get your bees into the hive in the first place? Not a large enough opening to dump a box of bees in. ...

*sigh*

Re:As a beekeper (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37999660)

I think the physical support is supposed to be the window. Which is doubly funny, because if you look at the photos, that couple is in a highrise. I can't even imagine what the building management would say about the yuppies on the 30th floor cutting holes in the glass.

Re:As a beekeper (1)

GNious (953874) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999818)

Not a bee-keeper at all, but backside of the thing (orange-bit) comes off, and seems large enough that you can physically access the hive, for tending the hive, or for inserting a number of bees (+ queen I assume).

Yes, it does appear to be smaller that other man-made bee-hives I've seen, but not all that much, and looks more accessible. The integrated smoke-thingy also seems cool (until a kid decides to pull the cord constantly).

Re:As a beekeper (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37999372)

I was a beekeeper for about 10 years. Had about 150 hives at my peak. I completely agree with you. How in the world are you supposed to maintain this thing? Its not like you can just scrape propolis off. That stuff is natures caulking! Also, there is no queen excluder, so you can't control where eggs are laid. This means the eggs with be in the center of the comb and spread radially. You probably won't have any comb that is just honey, so extraction without decimating the population will be nearly impossible. I suspect the person who designed this learned about bees by reading a Winey the Poo book.

Re:As a beekeper (2)

NewWorldDan (899800) | more than 2 years ago | (#38000016)

Dude, it's not an actual product. It's a piece of concept art. It's not intended to be functional. It's designed to appeal to urban hipsters so that they can feel like they are ecologically responsible. Or something. The same ones who keep a compost container on their apartment counter despite the fact that they have no garden to use it on.

Re:As a beekeper (4, Informative)

TFAFalcon (1839122) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999396)

The bigger question is how you get the honey but not the eggs/larva. While probably not inedible, honey with all the extra 'protein' would be quite disgusting.

"It depends." (2)

Slartibartfast (3395) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999684)

Comb generally doesn't mix the two. Larvae and honey are usually stored in separate locations. That being said, I have no idea how "pulling the string" would be able to differentiate. I imagine, however, that a strainer of some sort could keep most of the unpleasantness away. That being said, "as a fellow beekeeper," I, too, am with MancunianMaskMan: I just don't see how this could reasonably be expected to work, especially in cooler locales, where they'd be wintering in a room-temperature environment.

as a non-beekeeper, WTF? (5, Funny)

Thud457 (234763) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999694)

NO , the bigger question is why we have more than four people claiming to be beekeepers on /.
That's a demographic, there.

Re:as a non-beekeeper, WTF? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38000180)

Totally agree! I've never seen so many beekeepers posting to a tech news site before!!

Things are getting curiouser and curiouser.

Re:As a beekeper (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37999708)

Honey is dense. All of the crap isn't, so it floats to the surface of the honey. You then skim it off, or pour the honey from the bottom with a spigot/honey gate.

Re:As a beekeper (2)

TFAFalcon (1839122) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999926)

You still have to get the honey out of them combs, preferably in a non-destructive fashion. Centrifuge is out, until you get some mighty tolerant bees. You could probably press the combs, but that would also destroy them, and opening the hive on a regular basis would not make your living room a very pleasant place to be. (even smoked bees will still start flying around once you move a few combs, and once the hive is closed they'll have nowhere to go, resulting in annoyed bees flying all over the apartment.

Re:As a beekeper (3, Funny)

nschubach (922175) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999620)

the normal way to do this is via centrifuge, and generally, you want to do that without the bees.

And deprive the bees of a carnival ride?

Re:As a beekeper (1)

GNious (953874) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999780)

Pull string, release smoke, open container, manually separate honey-filled bits from hive (and bees), centrifuge-at-will.

At least, thats what I gathered from reading about this thing.

so no, not just pull string, get fresh honey...

Bogus? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37999900)

Maybe the beekeeper in this ad isn't the only thing blowing smoke.

Re:As a beekeper (3, Interesting)

coffeeyesplease (2338710) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999922)

I'm just stunned with the number of beekeepers that read slashdot

I already do (1)

FudRucker (866063) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999358)

Re:I already do (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37999718)

And those are the worst kind of bees as well.
The kind that rapes your everything using everything.
The kind that destroys your childhood, present and future. All at the same time.

I salute you sir.

Re:I already do (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38000104)

No, you fool! Don't tell them you keep /b/ in your apartment! Now TEH SP00KS (zomg phe@r fnord) will come by to blow it up! Your proxies mean nothing to them!

The real question... (1)

Jason Levine (196982) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999376)

If we feed this honey to dogs will they be dogs with bees in their mouths and when they bark they shoot bees at you?

AIRHOLES? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37999394)

How do the bees breath??

Re:AIRHOLES? (1)

TFAFalcon (1839122) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999432)

There is an opening in the front, and bees are quite good at providing airflow though their hives - they stand on the ground and beat their wings to move air in the desired direction.

So... (4, Funny)

Charliemopps (1157495) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999426)

So... it's Christmas, you have your entire family over, Uncle Pete is drunk again... doing his rendition of Grandma got ran over by a rain deer... trips of your sons new dump truck, reaches up to balance himself and pulls the entire hive down and crushes it under his drunken body as your relatives look on in horror. There's about a 3 second pause before you hear a single slurred word from Uncle Pete: "Owe... I think I gots bit er somthin... *gurgle*" the room erupts in screaming as people start climbing over each other trying to get to the door. Queue the Monty Python music, you'd better hope Santa brings you some calamine lotion.

Now I want one! (4, Funny)

Medievalist (16032) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999562)

I was not interested in owning this device until I read your post.

Re:So... (1)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999570)

So don't use the honey to make home made mead.

Re:So... (3, Informative)

Jeng (926980) | more than 2 years ago | (#38000070)

Monty Python music?

I think you mean Benny Hill music, aka Yakety Sax.

Yakety Sax makes everything funny.

Wonderful... (1)

CFBMoo1 (157453) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999428)

Now if something happens and shatters the glass, not only do you have to clean up broken glass but deal with an angry swarm of bees in your apartment. Bet these things would be a hoot in earthquake prone areas.

Re:Wonderful... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37999674)

Because, of course, it must be made of brittle glass. Clearly there is no other material that would be more resilient. I've always said Slashdot should have stopped new registrations after we hit six digits, but no one listened to me.

Re:Wonderful... (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999946)

Apparently not even you, who still doesn't have an account while the number is over 2.5 million.

Re:Wonderful... (3, Interesting)

hey! (33014) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999722)

I have several friends who keep bees, and they all have bee sting stories. It's a bit like a fish story; the winner is the guy who gets nailed the worst. First time I heard that I asked whether that made them want to give it up, and the response was pretty much, "Nah, I took a couple of benedryls and lay down for a twenty minutes and I was right as rain."

The punchline to these stories isn't that these guys went on keeping bees; it's that they kept taking the shortcuts that got them stung in the first place.

Obviously you're just a pussy who's not man enough to keep bees. Don't feel bad, so am I. But for men (and women) who have the figurative balls to keep bees, keeping them in the house would be cool.

Nice picture (1)

formfeed (703859) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999482)

Now have a look outside of that window. Where would the bees go to collect the pollen?

Re:Nice picture (2)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999592)

There is a small flower pot in the front.

Re:Nice picture (1)

nschubach (922175) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999644)

That one plant on the outside... duh.

Landlords will love this (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37999494)

"Could I drill a hole in one of your expensive windows so I can install a beehive in my apartment? You wouldn't have any problem with me leaving a hole in the window when I move or having stinging insects swarming around there either, right?"

Multi-use (1)

6Yankee (597075) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999524)

Very pretty, very functional. Now, rig this thing to fall off and smash when there's movement in the room in the small hours, and we've got a perfect burglar alarm. If you were attacked in the dark by a swarm of angry bees, the whole street would hear you screaming!

And then there are the health benefits. Even if it didn't dissuade any burglars, it'd make you think long and hard about those 3am fridge raids...

I get the feeling.. (2)

JustAnotherIdiot (1980292) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999530)

...next time we hear about this, it'll be a news story on how terribly this actually works.
I seriously can not see this ending well.

Re:I get the feeling.. (1)

marcosdumay (620877) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999736)

We won't hear about that history. That is because PR only works one way, but it is also because of other things:

1 - The bees won't survive on apartments. They won't have anything to eat, so all the other problems won't happen. There won't be bees attacking people, difficulty on getting the honey, birds suddenly deciding to live inside your house, this thing breaking, it getting ugly with time or any other problem.

2 - It won't sell nearly as much to get at the news again. People aren't that crazy, and are lazy enough to not want to keep bees (even if they could survive on the environment). Also, it will probably be too expensive.

You have to cut a hole in a window! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37999548)

What kind of landlord is going to allow a tenant to cut a hole in a window? Furthermore, if you live in any sort of modern urban high rise - modern being something built in the last 50 years, your windows are not single panes of glass but multiple panes with inert gasses in between and special coatings on each pane. In fact, they aren't even called windows anymore, they are exterior glazings and they are expensive. They are not like dual-pane windows for your suburban home. If something accidentally crashes through your home window and falls to the ground, it will not fall very far and it will land on your own property. That is not the case in an urban high rise and the answer, from a liability standpoint, is to make it really really really hard to send objects through the "window".

Asking someone to cut a hole so you can install a beehive is going to result in laughter.

A cage would allow me to keep a tiger too (2)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999550)

But that's not to say it would end well for either of us.

This is not for apartment dwellers... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37999582)

You have to cut a hole into your window glass to hang the thing. If your landlord allows that, you probably already have all the insects you need.

Insect pests, lawsuits, and contaminated honey. (1)

tomhudson (43916) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999606)

How does breeding more bees solve the problem of having too many son's of bees in most cities?

More importantly (and more seriously), this is a lawsuit waiting to happen. And no landlord is going to like you cutting holes in your windowpanes (yes, I read the original press release [philips.com] , not just the stupid article).

Seems it would also violate rules against the number of "pets" you're allowed to have. Also, the honey produced in an urban setting would probably have too many contaminants to be healthy.

Yeah...No (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37999608)

Tenant: So that no pets/animals, policy, does it apply to goldfish?
Landlord: Goldfish are fine.
Tenant: How about an "Urban Beehive?"
Landlord: No!
Tenant: It's safe. The bees are ....
Landlord: No!

April (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37999626)

Is it April the 1st already?!

Night needs to be night (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#37999672)

I can't imagine the bees will be happy to have their diurnal rhythm screwed up by having their hive interior irregularly lit at night from room lighting.

BEES!!! (1)

mrquagmire (2326560) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999738)

BEES!!! [photobucket.com]

Honey extraction not automatic (5, Informative)

Zinho (17895) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999748)

If you look at the Phillips Urban Beehive page [philips.com] you'll see that the pull cord is simply a smoke release, not a honey extractor. Even with the smoke, I wouldn't want to be running beekeeping operations in my kitchen. In fact, I'd be willing to say that the only purpose of this design is decorative, not functional: it's for people that just want to look at bees and feel good about being "close to nature" in their homes. I'll let the beekeepers on the forum take care of the rest of the design's flaws, they've already got it covered.

I for one (2)

Is0m0rph (819726) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999768)

welcome our sexy, urban dwelling, bee swarm overlords

Nickerson Farms (1)

boristdog (133725) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999844)

Anyone else old enough to remember Nickerson Farms restaurants?

They had something like this in every one.

Important points to consider (1)

Synon (847155) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999868)

You can't be serious...

1. Bee's are very messy creatures. That several-inch gap between the comb and glass will be filled with new comb built by the bee's, don't plan on being able to see much. Bee's don't like open space, they will build comb until it reaches the glass and they have about a 3/8" space to crawl through.

2. Honey is typically extracted by centripetal force. Frames which contain honey are taken out of the hive, the caps sealing the honey need to be cut off with a heated knife, and the frame is spun to get the honey out. Not all comb is honey, much of it is brood (developing bees), something a human would need to separate out.

3. It mentions there is a place to smoke the bee's if it needs cleaning. Bee's who have been smoked WILL fly all over your house. Bee's react to smoke because in nature it means there is a fire and that the hive is about to be destroyed, so the Bee's gorge on honey in anticipation of having to evacuate. They are heavily distracted from other threats but will continue to fly around.

4. I won't even get started about what would happen if this thing broke.

This device strikes me as completely ridiculous. I would NEVER consider keeping bee's in something like this, it seems apparent the designer has never kept bee's before. It resembles a fish tank, not a bee hive.

Concept... (1)

capsteve (4595) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999876)

it is a concept after all, so some of it's shortcomings might be obvious to apiarist that aren't to the industrial designer who came up with the concept.

from a non-beekeeper perspective, some things seem lacking:
ingress/egress opening looks too small for proper venting... don't drones need larger openings in the summer to fan cooler air into the hive?
mechanism for extracting honey probably is destroying cells to release honey... wouldn't the bees build around this mechanism after a few uses?
i thought queens needed a special chamber

Re:Concept... (1)

TFAFalcon (1839122) | more than 2 years ago | (#38000216)

It's not about the queen needing a special chamber, but if you let her move freely about the hive, then the cells filled with honey will be mixed with those occupied by her brood (eggs/larva). Since beekeepers don't want that, there is usually a 'barrier' inside the hive, that prevents the queen from accessing the part intended for later harvesting.

Vikings and Bee Keepers (1)

nabob (445128) | more than 2 years ago | (#37999976)

Chuck Norris doesn't eat honey. He chews bees.

A better idea... (2)

j-turkey (187775) | more than 2 years ago | (#38000040)

I'd rather have a gadget to do exactly the opposite. That is, keep bees far away from my domicile.




(not the inverse, which would turn my domicile into a massive beehive...{shiver}).

NOPE. (1)

AdamJS (2466928) | more than 2 years ago | (#38000122)

The second I see one of these in my apartment complex is the second I confront my landlord (and possibly, look for another place to live.)

Dogs (1)

arazor (55656) | more than 2 years ago | (#38000192)

I thought bees lived in dogs not hives.

I mean how else are you gonna get those dogs that shoot bees out their mouths.

I'm not buying one of those! (1)

N0Man74 (1620447) | more than 2 years ago | (#38000280)

It's covered in bees!

Half and half (1)

davmoo (63521) | more than 2 years ago | (#38000390)

Half of this is in fact possible, and is already being done and has been for decades...its called an "observation hive". Glass on at least one side, sits inside where it can be seen, a tube through a wall lets the bees get outside, so on and so forth. Google can tell you all about them.

The "pull a string for honey" part, however, and at least in my opinion, is total nonsense. Bees are not going to deposit the honey in a convenient comb-free location. And simply squeezing honey out of the comb would be a good way to also squeeze bees and larva.

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